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Sockpuppet investigations/TechnicianGB
Hello WikiEditor!

This is serious! The user Weatherextremes is accusing us of being a sock account and being related in some way to this user he mentioned and I don't know how I can prove my innocence (and yours too), since I'm a little new to these things. Furthermore, I wanted you to know this information as well. Should I contact an administrator and how do I do this? Besides, I'm sending this message because I know we're innocent in this.

I hope you don't get annoyed that I'm writing on your talk page. Farell37 (talk) 01:05, 3 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Sockpuppet here: Farell37 (talk) 01:08, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Hello, how can we contact an administrator for this guy's extreme obsession with us and his behavior? WikiEditor1890 (talk) 10:54, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
 * I have just noticed this "weatherextremes" guy is actually Mesogeiakos, someone known to troll and vandalize the biggest Portuguese Weather Forum (MeteoPT) claiming always that Greece, Athens, Attica and these places are the best and warmest and hottest in all of Europe. This is one of 100 examples:
 * https://www.meteopt.com/forum/topico/diversidade-climatica.4708/pagina-54
 * This user has been doing this for more than 15 years in all kind of sites, I have searched his nickname and results came up in British, Spanish and Italian forums as well. Same behavior. It's crazy someone that has spent 15 years of his life trolling in Internet forums, now accuses other people of being "sockpuppets" of someone we don't even know. WikiEditor1890 (talk) 11:20, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
 * I don't know how we can contact an administrator, but this guy won't stop acusing us being the same person, just because we put AEMET OpenData and this data has warmer averages than most continental Greece areas. AEMET OpenData is actually a RS and even more RS than NOAA, altough that data is still provisional, since AEMET didn't published the official values as you can see here: This is an employee who works at AEMET and I even asked he when the 1991-2020 official values will be published and he doesn't know. This proofs that NOAA 1991-2020 data doesn't come from AEMET. But he doesn't accept that and simply just say that this data is not reliable and the NOAA data comes from AEMET, which is not true, as the employee didn't mentioned NOAA data.
 * No one is saying that Greece is not warm, actually it's one of the warmest countries in Europe and we all know about that. Athens is one of the hottest cities in Europe. That's right, but he can't just vandalize other European countries climate data when it comes from the most reliable source, just for Athens to be the hottest area in Europe. This is incorrect.
 * Furthermore, in the Evrotas Valley article, he fetched climate data from a secondary NOA source (the Greek NOA). On this website, NOA does not state at any time that climate data is reviewed and updated, while AEMET OpenData already says this. Even so, as the temperatures recorded in this source are extremely high (higher than in the Guadalquivir Valley) he puts it on Wikipedia just because it's hotter than Guadalquivir Valley. We are talking about a hydrometeorological station which is not the same as a meteorological station. The two differ slightly, as the hydrometeorological station is used to study water levels, drought, floods, etc., while the meteorological station aims to study the long-term climate and weather forecasts. Furthermore, it does not belong to NOA's network of weather stations. Not even the official NOA website presents climate data for this station in the Evrotas Valley.
 * Even so, if he continues this behavior of accusing us of being the same person, we will contact an administrator. I'll look into it to see how this is done, as I recently joined Wikipedia. In fact, it's actually worth reporting this to the administrators, as he also tries to make the areas of Greece the hottest in Europe without citing RS. The problem is there. The thing is that in the articles from Spain, even if there are these claims of being the hottest area or the driest area, it cites reliable sources such as National Geographic, NASA (for driest area) or ElDiario.es (for hottest summers). If there were reliable sources about Greek articles saying they were the hottest areas in Europe, that would be fine. But there is not. Farell37 (talk) 13:26, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
 * This is completely insane. I have read again his entire acusations against us and he claims we "abuse mostly Spanish climate articles with the intention to make these areas appear milder/hotter/less snowy than they really are." While this is exactly what he does in Greek climates and more so in European related climates where he tries to shoehorn Greece in any possible way as proved in the page Climate of Europe.
 * I have seen he says "we are reaching mutual agreeement while being sockpuppets" and despite the admin has said we are not related he still insists we are the same this guy is just a troll that wants to get rid of us because we fight against his very biased POV, his edits without sources or poorly sourced ones against users who use reliable sources but he wants to get rid of them.
 * I find it really funny, when did I say ever in my life that any Spanish place is warmer than it actually is? Why would I do this? I have less than 70 edits if I don't count the talk pages, have never had any problem with anyone else except for this user who thinks he is some kind of Sherlock Holmes but it turns out he's the Wish / Shein version of it as an admin said we are unrelated but he keeps claiming we are the same person. That's insane. WikiEditor1890 (talk) 18:51, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
 * I have seen that Evrotas Valley edit he has made. You can delete that, it's laugheable. You have my support and we can actually report him for his very biased edits.
 * I feel very offended regarding these Defamation claims he has done against us and he is still repeating them. This can't remain like this. And I really hope the old account (allegedly our "sockmaster") takes action as well. Is there any way to contact him? I don't know eiter too much about how to report someone on Wikipedia. But I want to, as this user has surpassed every known limit. WikiEditor1890 (talk) 19:05, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
 * We must talk to an administrator to take some actions or something like to report the user. These extreme accusations that he is making about us are very serious and unacceptable, especially when the checkuser himself admitted that we have nothing to do with each other. And it is true that any European region that appears to be hotter than any other part of Greece, it immediately appears and tries to invalidate reliable sources such as AEMET OpenData, saying that it is not reliable, without proving that it is not reliable.
 * The Evrotas Valley article in which the source is cited says nothing about whether the data is revised. You can see that it is a secondary source and it is a hydrometeorological station, which is different!
 * I'll delete soon, but surely he will confront me again Farell37 (talk) 19:07, 9 May 2024 (UTC)

Climate of Valencia is hot semi-arid
Hi friend! I need your help on Valencia page and Climate of Valencia page. There is 1 person that thinks the climate is mediterranean, when the AEMET source and the weatherbox clearly shows that is hot semi-arid. Farell37 (talk) 22:41, 20 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Sure, I will engage in the talk page. I don't know if Valencia is fully semi arid or Mediterranean or bordering though, I will check the AEMET sources.
 * Also, have you seen Almería's talk page? Our mutual friend still claims we are sockpuppets. LOL! WikiEditor1890 (talk) 09:55, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

Possible RfC about adding the IFAPA station on Almeria climate section?
Hello friend! It seems that user now is going to do an RfC for adding the IFAPA station on the Almeria climate section. This is insane, since he is the only one that believes it's an official station.

Obviously, the fact that he is the only one to believe that that source is as reliable as AEMET is not taking a neutral point of view. Since the majority disagrees with him in the RfC about adding the value of 0.9ºC to the description, now he wants to add another RfC referring to the IFAPA station in the city. One of the users already stated that the AEMET station is always better than IFAPA (or any other non-AEMET stations) because it is the main source of climate in Spain.

I don't understand why he wants to add this, but I believe he is adding this climate data to make Almeria appear rainier. There were a few years in the 2010s that actually rained above average in Almeria, according to the Almeria airport station, plus the year 2022 recorded annual rainfall of around 310 mm. If this were from AEMET, I would agree, but it isn't. Farell37 (talk) 13:45, 24 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Hello, I have found out that the IFAPA station is near the airport and far from the city. I don't know why this user is continuously repeating wrong info, as he says this station is for the city when in fact it's from the same district where the airport is located at, called La Cañada and the station exact location can be found in Google Maps (coordinates from the IFAPA website) and there is even the IFAPA La Cañada (Almería University) public entity that double checks this station is in fact near the airport one and at good kilometers from the city itself.
 * IFAPA official site coordinates: https://www.juntadeandalucia.es/agriculturaypesca/ifapa/riaweb/web/estacion/4/2
 * IFAPA official coordinates searched in Google Maps: https://www.google.com/maps/place/36%C2%B050'07.3%22N+2%C2%B024'08.7%22W/@36.8520426,-2.3965554,11z/data=!4m4!3m3!8m2!3d36.8353611!4d-2.4024167
 * IFAPA official organism located exactly near the station, as the station belongs to a field owned by IFAPA. Centro IFAPA La Cañada https://www.google.com/maps/place/Centro+IFAPA+La+Ca%C3%B1ada,+Carr.+Sacramento,+04120+Almer%C3%ADa/@36.8328192,-2.4020848,13z/data=!4m6!3m5!1s0xd7a9c22ab01bbbb:0xab3e018d6e57944f!8m2!3d36.8328192!4d-2.4020848!16s%2Fg%2F11hd1vsx46
 * So the IFAPA Almería station is CONFIRMED to be near the airport and far from the city. Which makes it irrelevant as within 500 meters we have the official AEMET station with much longer data and it's also much more reliable. That's why in 2005 the IFAPA station registered a HIGHER minimum temp than the Almería Airport station, which broke the previous historical record when it reached 0.1°C and it almost hit the freezing temperature. WikiEditor1890 (talk) 22:18, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Hello friend! Yeah I saw that too when he put the IFAPA station on the Almeria page.
 * We don't just need to go by the location of the weather station, the fact that it is from IFAPA and he wants to use this data for climate studies in the region, which is a mistake. We do not know whether this data is reviewed or reviewed. Also, which Spanish newspapers use IFAPA as their main source of climate data? None, everyone uses AEMET.
 * He has to be more neutral, absolutely almost no one wants to add this IFAPA station, just him. According to WP:DUE, because it is a significantly small portion, it should not be added to Wikipedia. It is strong evidence that he is not taking a neutral point of view. Farell37 (talk) 22:35, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Hello Farell, to be honest I have never heard about IFAPA either before and I have been following books and sources about the Iberian Climate (Spain and Portugal for those who don't know) for quite a few years. It's not mentioned in any reliable source related to climatology or meteorology and the scope of IFAPA is determining proper places for harvests, as their main goal is to keep rain and humidity data. I'm not sure about how reliable their stations are.
 * But the main thing here is that this IFAPA Almería station is NOT Almería City but at about 500 meters from the Airport in the same district called La Cañada, which makes no sense at all and it doesn't add any useful info to "know better the climate of the city" as when Almería had it's historical low on 27th January 2005, AEMET registered 0.1 celsius in the airport but IFAPA registered 1.2 celsius so once again, it doesn't make too much sense to have 2 stations located one to each other near the airport, when one is the official one and the other one is, at the very least, questionable. WikiEditor1890 (talk) 22:45, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

End the partial block
Can you please end my partial block on the Almeria page by the end of 2024 instead because a single year is proven too long for me. 2603:8001:B202:3294:E86A:5AD9:E0D3:44A (talk) 01:01, 30 June 2024 (UTC)