User talk:WikiLeon/Archive02

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Road stubs
All of the following made their way to WP:SFD:


 * Arizona State Route Stub
 * Kentucky State Highway Stub
 * Maryland-State-Highway-Stub
 * Massachusetts-State-Highway-Stub
 * Michigan-State-Highway-Stub
 * Missouri-State-Highway-Stub
 * Nevada-State-Highway-Stub
 * New-Hampshire-State-Highway-Stub
 * Nhroute
 * Washington-State-Highway-Stub

--Rschen7754 (talk - contribs) 03:52, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Why? --LBMixPro(Speak on it!) 10:49, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

Christina Aguilera
I think you should check from dictionary what vandalism means! I added a picture, did not delete any written word from that page. And if I'm right I think wikipedia gives a right to edit these pages, if you want to. So now that you have deleted the picture that I added, in this case you are the one who is doing vandalism. —Preceding unsigned comment added by L.a.m.b (talk • contribs) 12:47, October 22, 2005
 * Oh, I'm so sorry. I misread the diffs pages. That was meant for User:222.152.192.97. I'll put the pic back. --LBMixPro(Speak on it!) 20:00, 22 October 2005 (UTC)


 * That's ok :) Take care xxx - L.a.m.b

Template:SFBridges
I noticed that you recently created this template, but I strongly suggest that you re-sort the links to some sort of logical ordering as soon as possible. A number of users have listed templates on TFD just because they do not follow the guidelines specified on Categories, lists, and series boxes. Thanks. Zzyzx11 (Talk) 19:22, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
 * They're already in an order of north-south bridges from west to east, then east-west bridges from north to south. The purpose of the template is to easily organize the eight bridges, by linking to each in a convienient place. I don't see this template as a series infobox, but a Navigational one --LBMixPro(Speak on it!) 22:27, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Thank you for making the template clearer with the "North-South" and "East-West" labels. Zzyzx11 (Talk) 22:34, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

Tila Nguyen


I saw the WP:AIV note on this and saw your warning, but some admins like to see more than one warning given and continued vandalism, so I gave another, please alsoremember to sign your talk page comments --pgk( talk ) 07:13, 8 November 2005 (UTC)

I've got a sysop looking at this now. --pgk( talk ) 07:19, 8 November 2005 (UTC) In fact now one of them blocked --pgk( talk ) 07:20, 8 November 2005 (UTC)

No problem, I use the IRC channel #wikipedia-en-vandalism (more detail at WP:CVU where a channel bot show suspicious chnages (normally just size based), but I've add the article into the watch list there, so more changes will be flagged up there too and hopefully someone will catch them. But do still revert and warn yourself (and list on AIV if needed) --pgk( talk ) 07:31, 8 November 2005 (UTC)

Anon problems


I saw your problem with the anon user that caused you high stress. Go to the talk page of that anon user and see the message I left him! By the way, welcome to Esperanza! — M o e   ε  21:40, 8 November 2005 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I have this feeling he's a person who's been banned from WP, and is sockpuppeting. I see a pattern of insulting me when he can't get his way. --LBMixPro(Speak on it!) 22:29, 8 November 2005 (UTC)

I am just going to ask if you care or not but do you mine me borrowing the heading format for my talk page too? — M o e   ε  22:09, 8 November 2005 (UTC)
 * Go ahead. I borrowed it from someone else as well.
 * Thanks for the fixing on my header and for letting me borrow it. Wow, I think that is the first time anyone every noticed my contributions to the Pro Wrestling Wikiproject. Thanks again! — M o e   ε  22:49, 8 November 2005 (UTC)
 * You two should both stick to something you know, say like Aguilera and World wrestling federation and leave the serious topics to serious people. IheartWWF wwf(wrestling for WP:RPA) 21:37, 9 November 2005 (UTC)
 * I know who you are, and I'm being very serious. I edit serious articles. And I'm seriously reporting you to WP administration because of these comments. I haven't insulted you, so what gives you the right to break rules and attack my intellegence? Respect the Wikipedia Project please? I'm asking you. --LBMixPro(Speak on it!)
 * Thanks for letting me know Lbmixpro about this clueless noob. So much he knows; World Wrestling Entertainment not World Wrestling Federation; lol. I will report him to administration too. — M o e   ε  03:04, 10 November 2005 (UTC)

Hey, Lbmixpro, I reported him to Administration Noticeboard. Just thought I would let you know! — M o e   ε  03:42, 10 November 2005 (UTC)
 * Wow, you weren't kidding. That was a long story. I actually just read the entire RFAr. That does sound a whole like Emico's style of editing. No worries though, I like being in the middle of things. It's sorta fun! lol. Hey, I just had a thought, what if the anon user I was informing about his personal attacks, possibly Emico, and the guy who just wrote on your talk page, IheartWWF, aren't the same person. Hmmm... makes you think huh? — M o e   ε  04:31, 10 November 2005 (UTC)
 * Oh well, even if it is the same person, I would just let it roll off your back. Save your energy for the important things on Wikipedia rather than the negative. I'm sure it will get resolved eventually. Cheers! — M o e   ε  05:03, 10 November 2005 (UTC)
 * Thanks --LBMixPro(Speak on it!) 05:06, 10 November 2005 (UTC)

Current Situation
Hi there Lbmixpro, it's Moe Epsilon! I just dropped in to say hi and to find out how are you in your current situation with the whole "Emico and his sockpuppets" deal that I was involved in a while back. Wow, I do like being in the middle of things, lol. — M o e   ε  22:29, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Thats good that it was delt with properly. Thanks for the update, Cheers! — M o e   ε  23:40, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

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Thank you.


It has been a long, difficult route attempting to balance out the Iglesia ni Cristo articles and I appreciate everything you've done. Throughout this endeavour, I've learned a lot about the INC, about Christianity and I'm glad that I had the chance to make amends with my fellow Wikipedians. Thank you for the barnstar, I promise that I will try to react with patience and with reason, which can always win out over anger.--Ironbrew 21:12, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
 * I wish you well. That's what Wikipedia is about: learning about new things, and finding more about what you already know. The world according to NPOV. --LBMixPro&lt;Sp e ak 09:41, 12 November 2005 (UTC)
 * This debacle is partly my fault, for not coming out earlier and telling the truth about me being a member of the INC as well as creating the Ironbrew account. Emico's efforts were being overlooked (and even supported at times) by some others because although his actions were wrong, they were being directed towards me, and from my experiences as a member, we always rally against those who "blaspheme God's holy church" (the INC's phraseology) and feel that anything is justified due to the fact. In my younger days, I hated anyone who I felt wasn't giving the proper "respect" to the INC and would join along in denouncing them. I don't foresee myself leaving the INC soon, but realize now, that there is a greater love and a greater fellowship out there. --Ironbrew 01:58, 14 November 2005 (UTC)
 * At this point, I feel sorry for him. Does Starbucks/Emico even know that what he does undermines the INC and gives people a bad impression of it? It is because of people like him that I reconsidered my membership. The final thing I can do to make up for my past actions is to help him become a positive contributor to Wikipedia. I will try my best to talk to him, and help him to improve his conduct.--Ironbrew 07:00, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

I told Starbucks the truth.
I came back in hopes of offering my assistance to the impasse and try to smooth things over with you and Starbucks, but it seems that he's out for my blood too. I'm not going to come here to fight him everyday, and hopefully he'll learn his lesson. I couldn't help but take offense with his latest tirade, so I told him what I thought in no uncertain terms, but this time in a way which I hope is patient and Christian. Talk:Eduardo_V._Manalo--Ironbrew 10:38, 17 November 2005 (UTC)
 * I tried and while he didn't listen, I'm happy I was able to deal with someone who said such dirty things about me in a decent manner and I hope that I'm living up to my statement and to the Barnstar. Now, if Emico doesn't want to improve, it's time for something to be done about it, another ban if necessary and protection on the INC articles.--Ironbrew 11:29, 19 November 2005 (UTC)

Emico


I have looked into this a bit. Please email me regarding any suspected sockpuppets. Fred Bauder 22:51, 19 November 2005 (UTC)

Iglesia ni Cristo
I protected it but I can't do it for real long given the nature of the discussion. It should give you time to link the IPs to this banned person. 48 hours is about all I can do. Maybe. :) --Woohookitty(cat scratches) 20:57, 22 November 2005 (UTC)


 * I would recommend posting your concerns on the Administrators noticeboard page and see if they can help. They help with things like users trying to get around blocks. They are more experts at this than I am. --Woohookitty(cat scratches) 10:21, 23 November 2005 (UTC)


 * Hmm ok. Don't know what else you can do then. Protection is fine, but it can't really be for more than a few days because we're a wiki and the big appeal is that anyone can edit. --Woohookitty(cat scratches) 10:36, 23 November 2005 (UTC)

INC Suggestions
I made a suggestion at the INC page. While wikipedia can't be used as a platform for evangelism and propaganda, I would like to know what INC is all about. Did Christ have to die on the Christ according to INC? What is INC's stand on heaven, hell, reincarnation, abortion, priesthood and marriage, euthanasia, other Christians or denominations, salvation, salvation by works or by faith, etc. Why can't I just join the Baptists or Adventists, what's the difference? Are any foods forbidden? Word of God? Is the bible holy? ARe INCs Unitarian? Do they have holy sacraments? Eucharist?How do they view other denominations? How does INC define Christianity? Is there a promise land? Messiah? The 10 commandments? Is the name of God holy? How about the Sabbath? Are there any other places held sacred like a mecca?.--Jondel 10:23, 25 November 2005 (UTC)

Blocking INC disruptive user
I am not experienced with blocking disruptive users but thingking of doing so. I've already contacated brew and am investigating arbitration links to INC. Thoughts and comments?--Jondel 02:06, 29 November 2005 (UTC)

Don't entertain the Trolls
A long time long time ago, in a galax..... when I used to be an anonymous, my comments at various talk and discussion pages would be removed/reverted even if relevant. If a person is anonymous, they can not expect that much recognition. We shouldn't entertain them. I will be reverting or removing comments by anonymous people as appropriate.--Jondel 07:58, 29 November 2005 (UTC)

At this point please edit using your best judgement. Do not be intimidated or ascribe to ' What is your source?'. Treat these demands with a grain of salt. Better not entertain Trolls. If the user does not register, he is not willing to be accountable and we should treat as persona non grata. You may of course choose to allow his comments if obeys rules of wiki behaviour. I'm more of an editor than admin but I've been trolled a few times already. --Jondel 10:44, 29 November 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the advice, that I shall take. I only wish I could thank people for the advice I don't take! Dominick (TALK) 00:25, 1 December 2005 (UTC)

Caveat
The above may or may not be policy. With too many policies however, progress is slow and the BE BOLD directive will have no meaning. I am not recommending strong arm tactics or anarchy. Ideally, people follow the rules by heart even if none exists. The above is from personal experience. --Jondel 00:17, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

Tila's headshot
while i don't personally mind the picture it might be wise to choose one a little more subtle. Boneyard 10:26, 29 November 2005 (UTC)
 * i understand the problem with finding a subtle picture, but for example the previous deleted one was way less provocative, if you could get aproval for that one i think it would be better. Boneyard 10:52, 29 November 2005 (UTC)
 * indeed, an empty spot would be worse, ill see if i can find another allowed pic also. and thanks for the work you put on the article. Boneyard 11:02, 29 November 2005 (UTC)

Happy Thanksgiving!
Wow, I feel retarded. I posted a Happy Thanksgiving message to you on Thanksgiving on my archive of conversations with you! Oops, meant to put it here. At least you will see the message today, Well, if you hadnt already figured it out, Happy Thanksgiving, uhh... sort of, lol :-) — M o e   ε  21:29, 5 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Sounds great, I'll vote support for you! — M o e   ε  21:30, 5 December 2005 (UTC)
 * There, I voted for you, Hope you win. I am also running for adminship on December 14. Maybe we will both be admins! That's going to be great. Good Luck! — M o e   ε  21:39, 5 December 2005 (UTC)

Thank you
Thank you Leon for letting me know about your desire to become an admin. For me it is an honor and a previlege to support you. As I stated before, you have the makings of a great admin. Your friend Tony the Marine 00:58, 6 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia right now is in the fight for its life to regain credibility after the Seigenthaler incident and it is users like you, who selflessly fight to maintain decorum and NPOV that keep the beliefs and hopes that Wikipedia was founded on alive. For this, I'm proud to support you in your efforts to become an administrator and will be glad to have you working towards truth, civility and credibility.--Ironbrew 21:30, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

Template
Check your entry about the CVU at Jimbo's talk page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lbmixpro (talk • contribs)
 * Thanks, looking. :) -- Cool CatTalk 22:33, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

Administrator
Congratulations, you are now an administrator! If you haven't already, now is the time to read the Administrators' how-to guide and Administrators' reading list. If you have any questions, I'm happy to help, or you can ask them at Administrators' noticeboard. Best wishes, Warofdreams talk 12:56, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

Congratulations, and you're very welcome! --Merovingian 22:27, 12 December 2005 (UTC) Congratulations!!!!!--Alhutch 05:57, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

Esperanza elections
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INC
Thanks for letting me know. We tried unprotection before but it didn't work out real well. We'll see. --Woohookitty(cat scratches) 01:33, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

from Dominick
Well, you have worked with me on INC, and we have talked some, there is a RFC on me, at Wikipedia talk:Requests for comment/Dominick that was filed by the gal I filed on here Requests for comment/Used2BAnonymous I would love your input, please. Dominick (TALK) 13:55, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

Congrats
I am very happy for you. I knew from the very begining that you had what it takes. Good luck, Your friend Tony the Marine 07:13, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

My RFA
Hi the Lbmixpro. I just dropped in to ask if you could vote for me on my request for adminship here. Hope you vote, preferably support, lol :-). Also congrats on your RFA! Cheers! — M o e   ε  21:45, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

Signing vandal warnings
You undoubtedly don't need me to tell you this, but please sign vandal warnings. You probably just forgot, but who knows. It makes it easier when someone else comes to warn them too.Tommstein 11:29, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

Kate Winslet
I addded a new picture and wanted to let you know. I addressed it on the discussion page. I tried to find a color promo picture, and found the one currently on there. Hope it's ok with everyone. AriGold 16:32, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

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My Re-RFA
Lbmixpro, I have been renominated! Strange sequence of events. First Mcfly85 has been caught by the CheckUser and now this. — M o e   ε  20:17, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

help w. internal link
cant find this in the help or WP areas. want a link on Sociology near the top that links to the subfields (Socoiology) list at the bottom, but nothing I've tried works. please fix and/or advice (though beware - scores of other, unrelated changes made, too). Thanks! Airumel 07:43, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

Felix Navidad


''' O.K. Lbmixpro, so you don't believe in Santa, but I still want to wish you and your loved ones all the happiness in the world and the best new year ever. Your friend, Tony the Marine 05:08, 18 December 2005 (UTC)'''

Emico gave barnstars to himself
Just thought you might want to see: User_talk:Emico.--Ironbrew 23:52, 20 December 2005 (UTC)
 * I've seen other members doing it as well. Although I wouldn't. It only has value to the person who's recieving it. It's like that thank you flower. --LBMixPro&lt;Sp e ak 21:23, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

For the record...
I called Emico "a petty liar and a slanderer," which was intended to be a comment on his activity and not an insult. He is very petty, as evidenced by his persistent edit/comment wars, and he has lied, claiming that he is not behind the anonymous edits when evidence suggests otherwise and his conduct borders on slander, with his reckless use of personal accusations and insults. I pointed out the errors in his conduct and why I rescinded my offer. Perhaps if I am not able to express my observations about user conduct, I might have to take a (long-needed) hiatus from Wikipedia. I understand where you are coming from, and rest assured there are no hard feelings. Happy Holidays. (I am Ironbrew, and I wrote this message)--69.231.198.18 06:46, 26 December 2005 (UTC)
 * do the time if you do the crime.--Mr. Coffee 20:50, 26 December 2005 (UTC)
 * That's right! Do the time! --LBMixPro&lt;Sp e ak 22:55, 26 December 2005 (UTC)

Iglesia
People, entities and organizations mature and need time and people to accomodate them. We just have to do our part in being neutral etc. People and organizations will remove their cultic or undesirable practises in time. This why neutrality is almost a religion for me. I'm considering trying to achieve a neutral professional looking article on Hare Krishna but it is too messy for me. Happy Holidays. Maligayang pasko. Feliz navidad. Shinnen akemashite omedeto gozamaisu.--Jondel 01:00, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

Christian?
I don't know if they would be considered Christian with their non-trinitarian views and their non-recognition of Jesus as the Son of God.--Jondel 07:31, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

Emico's back!
User:LenlenBunting--Ironbrew 22:46, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

Belated
Merry Xmas!--Jondel 12:50, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

Esperanza election
Thank you for your support in the Esperanza Election. I was unsuccessful in the end of the election but I would like to thank you for having confidence in me to be a future admin general/ advisory council member. — M o e   ε  23:27, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

Esperanza Elections
 Lbmixpro 

Thanks for voting for me at the Esperanza Elections.

I've made my way into the Advisory Committee, so if you ever need any help or have any queries about the stuff we do, please do not hesitate to ask me. Thanks again, Fir  e  Fox  11:58, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

On the firefox icon
Hey, It looks possible, by Template_talk:User_browser:Firefox that we're going to change the image from the template you reverted to a different one with an acceptable license. If you could either weigh in on that there or not revert the image once it's changed, that'd be cool. --Improv 19:32, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, if it's free, then it's good. And it seems the icon's been changed. --LBMixPro&lt;Sp e ak 21:21, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

Consensus Forge 2006 at WP:IAR
I moved your Consensus forge post at the WP:IAR talk page to its own Misc page at Consensus_Forge_2006. --LBMixPro&lt;Sp e ak 12:46, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

Err, umm, could you put it back? The whole "consensus forge" thing is for the WP:IAR article itself. Honestly, it's a new idea that I'm trying out on that article. If it is successful in reaching consensus on WP:IAR (as good a place as any to see if it will really work), I hope to hone it into something more general that can be used on any article.

In any case, I need people to see it and use it on the WP:IAR talk page, in order that we might gain any benefit from it. Putting it out at Consensus_Forge_2006 implies two things:


 * The "Consensus Forge" is ready for prime-time in other articles. (It's not)
 * The text doesn't apply only to WP:IAR (It does.)

If putting it back on the main talk page is unacceptable, could we at least reach a compromise? Perhaps make it a subpage of the WP:IAR talk page, and move the "Consensus Forge" topic to the top, with a wikilink to the subpage?

Please discuss. :-) /* Pradeep Arya 12:59, 9 January 2006 (UTC) */

Founder leaving, number of sentences: deviantArt
Just a note on your comment:

Steve Jobs leaving Apple only required 1 sentence on Apple's entry

192.133.192.1 21:28, 12 January 2006 (UTC)jna
 * Was Steve Jobs's resignation controvercial within the Apple community? --

John Kerry
Are you a DailyKos or DNC operative? What's up? 66.98.131.200 09:09, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

Pete Carroll
You put a message on my talk page saying "By the way, are you Pete Carroll? --LBMixPro 07:56, 22 January 2006 (UTC)"

I'm not sure why you said that, but I'm not, nor am I even a fan of college football. Just trying to keep Wikipedia NPOV. I see you are an Admin, can you do something about the guy who keeps putting up uncited POV stuff on the Pete Carroll page? He reverts (angrily) instead of using the talk page. Thanks! Methelfilms 09:59, 22 January 2006 (UTC)


 * Thank you for your good work sir. Glad we could help continue the mass PR coverup of all of Pete Carroll's evil deeds. Methelfilms 15:44, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

Administrator- Could you help?
Hi, I'm new to Wikipedia (as a member anyway) and i was wondering:

Why are some people members to groups such as Esperanza and Anti-Vandalism, how can you become involved in the group? Secondly, you have Userbars on your page- where/how to i get these, can i add them to my page? Thirdly, what are 'awards' some people have been give? Fourthly, how do i get my page to look good- how do you put text in coloured backgrounds etc...

Thanks for your help in advance, please reply by posting in my 'My Talk' Page

Thanks, Tom 20:45, 22 January 2006 (UTC)