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Thank You
Thank you very much :-) tc - Ravichandar My coffee shop 02:50, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the email
Thanks for your email and for being concerned about another editor, particularly one you do not agree with. I also am not happy to see this user blocked, but having read their User Talk page, I do not think I can challenge or overturn the actions of those admins. Regards,  S HEFFIELD S TEEL TALK 13:59, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

Re;A quick note
Thank you very much :-). I just had a look at the article and found that there was little on the early history of the Justice Party, etc. I've written down two sections on the same in my sandbox. I shall very well incorporate them in your article if you say "okay".

Well, as far as DYKs are concerned, well, well, I find it extremely difficult to stretch some of the articles beyond 5K, let alone aiming to raise them to FA-standards. I cannot get much stuff on them on the web. Of late, I've come across a number of books containing statistical info and administrative details about Madras Presidency and am working to get Madras Presidency featured. You help in this regard will be most welcome.:-)

I have been working with Arcot Ramasamy Mudaliar for the past few days. But apart from bits and pieces, I cannot find much info on the web. It will be great if you could help me with the article.:-) Thanks.tc.- Ravichandar My coffee shop 10:47, 14 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I'll take a look at it. :-) Well, well, Ootacamund was he summer capital of Madras Presidency just as Shimla was the summer capital of British India. Well, I'll include a new section on "Cities" where I'll include the fact. Thanks for the article :-) - Ravichandar My coffee shop 07:09, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

Hello
I came across your various chennai related contributions. Do you live in Chennai? --Plane Mad 11:31, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

Thanks
for the appreciation. Your contributions are quite conspicuos as well (this page being a testimony). keep up the good work.  Docku: “what up?”  15:51, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

Discrimination faced by the Bihari community in India
FYI, Significant_Viewpoints. Kindly comment. Manoj nav (talk) 06:20, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

Self-respect movement and DP
I wouldn't say marriage between self-respect movement and DP. As far as I know, the Self-Respect movement is a socio-cultural movement while Dravidian parties form the political arm. Nevertheless, the ideals and the goals are the one and the same. I believe that the Self-respect movement originated at more or less the same period when Periyar joined the Justice Party. The Justice Party was mainly the product of Theagaroya Chetty and the Raja of Panagal and was flourishing by the time Periyar joined. I only say that "I believe"; I, too, am in the learning process and I might be wrong.

Anyway, you might find it interesting to note that a party by name Justice Party contested in the 1952 elections. This indicates that, contrary to popular belief that Periyar converted the Justice Party to Dravidar Kazhagam, a party by that name did survive and was run by a few dissidents. However, its performance in the elections weren't notable by any means.- Ravichandar My coffee shop 13:10, 14 November 2008 (UTC)


 * The 1951 Madras Legislative Assembly elections results here from the the Election Commission of India archives list a party called Justice Party (JUSP) as an unrecognized state-level party which contested 9 seats and won one with a vote percentage of 13%. I don't know whether this party is a remnant of the Justice Party of old, but then, such a possibility cannot be ruled out- Ravichandar My coffee shop 14:25, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for the heads-up. I knew about a few advanced search features on G, but I've never uses this. Thanks. Will try it. aJC freak y A k  05:34, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your support
Thank you very much for your support. At present, I am not interested in involving myself in any activity than in closing live current discussions that I have been involved but I will surely consider your suggestion. Once again, thanks :-)- Ravichandar My coffee shop 07:21, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

Once again, Thanks
Thank you very much for the medal :-)- Ravichandar My coffee shop 14:00, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

Thank you
Thank you for the reminder about 3RR. Manoj nav (talk) 09:04, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

Book
I realize that you are a great deal interested in British Madras. Do have a look at this book from 1914. I found to be great and full of rare pictures:.tc.- Ravichandar <sub style="color:aqua; font-family:Monotype Corsiva;">My coffee shop 12:07, 3 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Well, as far as I know, almost all sources on pre-independence Tamil Nadu indicate that the region had an agrarian basis with little industries. The British, in fact, have been frequently accused of neglecting the industrial development of the province and concentrating on agriculture, fisheries, coffee and tea plantations alone for economic growth. But you will observe that this particular book with pictures of distilleries and refineries established by Parry & Co., workshops of Massey & Co, and factories of Burmah Shell, Shaw Wallace & Co, Crompton, Simpsons, etc., tells a different story. I, indeed, felt surprised as to why Madras Presidency was classified as a province with an agrarian economy.- Ravichandar <sub style="color:aqua; font-family:Monotype Corsiva;">My coffee shop  12:58, 4 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Colonial Economy in the Great Depression: this is another interesting and informative book- Ravichandar <sub style="color:aqua; font-family:Monotype Corsiva;">My coffee shop 10:14, 6 December 2008 (UTC)


 * I feel Influence of popular media on Dravidian politics would be better and appropriate. Films showcasing the Dravidian ideology helped the DMK to rise in size and eventually capture power in 1967. I, however, wouldn't say that the converse is true. Even without carrying powerful political messages, Tamil films would have survived and flourished.- Ravichandar <sub style="color:aqua; font-family:Monotype Corsiva;">My coffee shop 02:24, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

Dravidian politics and films
Well, my perception is that Tamil cinema does not owe its rise to politics alone. There were movies based on political themes even before Parasakthi. A few films with nationalist themes were made during the Premiership of Rajaji. Yeah, films conveying Dravidian ideology did put an end to the era of mythologies, but I feel that social dramas too had a part to play in the transition from the mythologicals. On the contrary, the growth of the Dravidian parties did accompany the increase in the number of people drawn to films conveying the Dravidian ideology. However, much more than films, you've got to consider the popularity of magazines and periodicals like Justice and the kind. I would rather say that the rise in support for the DMK was made possible by its effective usage of media and not just films alone. - Ravichandar <sub style="color:aqua; font-family:Monotype Corsiva;">My coffee shop 04:49, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, Dravidian politics and popular media would be good. :-)- Ravichandar <sub style="color:aqua; font-family:Monotype Corsiva;">My coffee shop 04:56, 8 December 2008 (UTC)


 * I'm extremely sorry. I was having problems with my internet connection. I had difficulty in connecting and it just disconnects in a few minutes. So, I just did one or two edits which I had previously scheduled. Yeah, I just had a look now. Seems to be good. Will give detailed comments in a few minutes. By the way, I attended a Wikipedia meetup on the 12th at Virugambakkam, Chennai and was fortunate enough to meet Jimmy Wales and Sue Gardner.- Ravichandar <sub style="color:aqua; font-family:Monotype Corsiva;">My coffee shop 02:16, 14 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Hey I just saw J. Jayalalithaa's name being mentioned over there. While it's true that Jayalithaa became a politician of the Dravidian movement at a later stage, are you aware of any early films of her's which conveyed political messages. As far as I know her films or atleast, her roles in films, weren't of political nature.- Ravichandar <sub style="color:aqua; font-family:Monotype Corsiva;">My coffee shop 02:20, 14 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Hey, how about mentioning Padaiyappa. There were indications that Nilambari might have been modelled upon Jayalalithaa, though Rajini later denied it. And, of course, starting from Vetrikodi kattu to Kicku yerudhe song, nearly all of them conveyed Rajini's political aspirations- Ravichandar <sub style="color:aqua; font-family:Monotype Corsiva;">My coffee shop 02:44, 14 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Dude, you could mention Padaiyappa along with Muthu; that's what I am saying. Of course, it would be unnecessary to describe Rajini's movies in detail as none of them are connected to the Dravidian ideology- Ravichandar <sub style="color:aqua; font-family:Monotype Corsiva;">My coffee shop 03:11, 14 December 2008 (UTC)


 * I guess you could separate the actual content of the article into three parts: Firstly, films conveying the Dravidian ideology, secondly, Film actors who started or joined Dravidian parties and thirdly, films and political agitations. Well, it is quite interesting to note that most actors who lent their support to the Dravidian ideology weren't quite active in politics. Even, N. S. Krishnan did not contest elections. The films of Vivek and Kamal Hassan propagate rationalism or atheism, or whatever you call it. But these individuals are not active in politics.  And if you do observe, you will notice that the films of Dravidian politicians like M. G. Ramachandran, Vijaykanth, Rajnikanth or Sarath Kumar concentrate on personality cult than Dravidian ideology. Yeah, some of early MGR films did propagate the Dravidian ideology but most of the later ones concentrated on his image as the "champion of the masses" or the "champion of the poor" and unlike films of the 1950s, did notpropagate anti-Brahminism in particular.- Ravichandar <sub style="color:aqua; font-family:Monotype Corsiva;">My coffee shop  03:35, 14 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Cool! :-) I'm working with articles on the Chief Ministers of Madras Presidency. Do have a look when you get time. I've already expanded A. Subbarayalu Reddiar and Raja of Panagal. I'm working to get Raja of Panagal nominated for a GA. At the same time, I'm also working with P. Subbarayan.- Ravichandar <sub style="color:aqua; font-family:Monotype Corsiva;">My coffee shop 13:11, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Tamil cinema and Dravidian politics
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Color
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Re: Justice Party
I, too, remember having read something about the dispute, though, I don't remember the name of the book. I'll search and tell you- Ravichandar <sub style="color:aqua; font-family:Monotype Corsiva;">My coffee shop 10:27, 17 December 2008 (UTC)