User talk:WikidSmaht/pokerefs

Usage
Template should be “subst”ed into articles and edited as necessary. Parameters: First letter (capital), first letter (small), the rest of the name, and the 3-digit National ’dex number, in this format: N. Example: C.

Books
The following books may be useful for some articles( some are already included in the template):
 * Publications
 * Nintendo Power. Official Nintendo Pokémon Player’s Guide. Nintendo of America Inc., 1998. ASIN B000CQP8FE
 * Nintendo Power. Official Nintendo Pokémon Player’s Guide Special Edition for Yellow, Red and Blue. Nintendo of America Inc., 1999. ASIN B000CQT878
 * Barbo, Maria. The Official Pokémon Handbook. Scholastic Publishing, 1999. ISBN 0439154049.
 * Loe, Casey, ed. Pokémon Special Pikachu Edition Official Perfect Guide. Sunnydale, CA: Empire 21 Publishing, 1999. ISBN 130206151.
 * Nintendo Power. Official Nintendo Pokémon Snap Player’s Guide. Nintendo of America Inc., 1999. ASIN B000CDZP9G
 * Nintendo Power. Super Smash Bros. Melee Official Nintendo Player’s Guide. Nintendo of America Inc., 2001. ISBN 1930206194
 * Nintendo Power. Official Nintendo Pokémon Ruby Version & Sapphire Version Player’s Guide. Nintendo of America Inc., 2003. ISBN 1930206313
 * Nintendo Power. Official Nintendo Pokémon Colosseum Player’s Guide. Nintendo of America Inc., March 2004. ISBN 193020647X-->
 * Nintendo Power. Official Nintendo Pokémon FireRed & Pokémon LeafGreen Player’s Guide. Nintendo of America Inc., August 2004. ISBN 193020650X
 * Mylonas, Eric. Pokémon Pokédex Collector’s Edition: Prima’s Official Pokémon Guide. Prima Games, September 21 2004. ISBN 0761547614
 * Nintendo Power. Official Nintendo Pokémon Emerald Version Player’s Guide. Nintendo of America Inc., April 2005. ISBN 1930206585
 * Chiba, Akira et al. The Official Pokémon Emerald Version Strategy Guide. Pokémon USA, Inc., 2005. ISBN 3937336060
 * Nintendo Power. Official Nintendo Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness Player’s Guide. Nintendo of America Inc., September 22 2005. ISBN 1598120026
 * Manga volumes
 * Ono, Toshihiro. Pokémon: The Electric Tale of Pikachu! Graphic Novel. VIZ Media LLC, September 9 1999. ISBN 1569313784
 * Ono, Toshihiro. Pokémon: Pikachu Shocks Back Graphic Novel. VIZ Media LLC, December 6 1999. ISBN 156931411X
 * Ono, Toshihiro. Pokémon: Electric Pikachu Boogaloo Graphic Novel. VIZ Media LLC, April 5 2000. ISBN 1569314365
 * Ono, Toshihiro. Pokémon: Surf’s Up, Pikachu Graphic Novel. VIZ Media LLC, June 2000. ISBN 1569314942
 * Kusaka, Hidenori, & Mato. Pokémon Adventures, Volume 1: Desperado Pikachu. VIZ Media LLC, July 6 2000. ISBN 1569315078
 * Kusaka, Hidenori, & Mato. Pokémon Adventures, Volume 2: Legendary Pokémon. VIZ Media LLC, December 6 2000. ISBN 1569315086
 * Kusaka, Hidenori, & Mato. Pokémon Adventures, Volume 3: Saffron City Siege. VIZ Media LLC, August 5 2001. ISBN 1569315604
 * Kusaka, Hidenori, & Mato. Pokémon Adventures, Volume 4: The Yellow Caballero: A Trainer in Yellow. VIZ Media LLC, January 9 2002. ISBN 1569317100
 * Kusaka, Hidenori, & Mato. Pokémon Adventures, Volume 5: The Yellow Caballero: Making Waves. VIZ Media LLC, April 2002. ISBN 1591160278
 * Kusaka, Hidenori, & Mato. Pokémon Adventures, Volume 6: The Yellow Caballero: The Cave Campaign. VIZ Media LLC, September 5 2002. ISBN 1591160286
 * Kusaka, Hidenori, & Mato. Pokémon Adventures, Volume 7: The Yellow Caballero: The Pokémon Elite. VIZ Media LLC, January 2003. ISBN 1569318514

Discussion

 * Usage
 * I think that[ usage] was being discussed in the WP:PCP/T too. --Anthony Jake La (Tetsuya-san; talk : contribs) 10:32, 18 February 2006 (UTC)


 * This is absurdly complicated. Firstly, substing defeats the purpose of templates, which is being able to add in extra information or remove existing information if necessary. Second, adding in the parameters has broken most of the Pokémon pages that transclude the template normally. See Politoed for an example. I'm seriously considering reverting this. Stifle 08:36, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
 * It's quite cumbersome, really, but it does help with when useless links are added that they don't appear in all the Pokémon articles. But because most of the pages with this template have link lists which are quite irrelevant, it would be best that we follow subst with a better sort of template but not add that insanely large booklist below - not all Pokémon appear in such mentioned books anyway, and the template does cause a little bit of trouble when it comes to new Pokémon like Lucario. --Anthony Jake La (Tetsuya-san; talk : contribs) 12:32, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
 * I had no intention of adding the whole list. The point is, each article needs different references. That’s just a list of suggestions. -- WikidSmaht (talk) 08:58, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
 * They will be fixed as I pass through each of the 493 articles and add the parameters. Or you can just fix the when you see them. Substing is better because each Pokémon has a different set of references which are relevant to it. This template was really created as an easy way of adding refs to all the stub articles so they wouldn’t be deleted when a lot were nominated. It was never intended as a permanent resource, and even before I ever touched it, several of the resources were only valid for the first 151. -- WikidSmaht (talk) 08:58, 13 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Books
 * And therefore bloating the references. Unnecessary - articles which this template have "subst"ed will not update to reflect these changes. --Anthony Jake La (Tetsuya-san; talk : contribs) 12:32, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Um? that’s why I didn’t put them in the template! They aren't all relavant to even a majority of the articles. They are here on the talk page as suggestions for useful titles when customizing each article. See above where I said they “may be useful for some articles” and “some are already included in the template”? -- WikidSmaht (talk) 08:58, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

This template should be outlawed
And besides, 130206151 is only 9 digits. --LA2 19:01, 7 September 2006 (UTC)