User talk:Wikimandolin12

January 2010
Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia, your addition of one or more external links to the page E-TRAIN has been reverted. Your edit here was reverted by an automated bot that attempts to remove links which are discouraged per our external links guideline from Wikipedia. The external link you added or changed is on my list of links to remove and probably shouldn't be included in Wikipedia. I removed the following link(s): http://Facebook.com/eTRAINmusic (matching the regex rule \bfacebook\.com). If you were trying to insert an external link that does comply with our policies and guidelines, then please accept my creator's apologies and feel free to undo the bot's revert. However, if the link does not comply with our policies and guidelines, but your edit included other, constructive, changes to the article, feel free to make those changes again without re-adding the link. Please read Wikipedia's external links guideline for more information, and consult my list of frequently-reverted sites. For more information about me, see my FAQ page. Thanks! --XLinkBot (talk) 08:09, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

Congrats on Finding Jimbo's page
E-Train was Speedy deleted per CSD A7, was an article about a real person, group of people, band, that didn't assert the importance or significance of its subject. If you choose to recreate the article i recommend using sources like has this group appeared in the Newspaper or Anything? Are there any one on the Chicago Music scene who has written about them? Weaponbb7 (talk) 19:18, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

E-TRAIN
Hello. I saw your comment on Jimmy Wales' talk page about your article about E-TRAIN. I've looked at the article. It began with this:
 * In honor of his inspirational mother Roxane 'ROX' Malo (9/5/54 - 11/10/03), highly anticipated freshmen album 'The Wrath of Roxane' will be completed this spring in Los Angeles, releasing under a new PARTNERSHIP between Interscope Records (Geffen/A&M; Universal Music Group) and our new record label E-TRAIN Music Group (EMG; E=MC2 L.L.C.).
 * In honor of his inspirational mother Roxane 'ROX' Malo (9/5/54 - 11/10/03), highly anticipated freshmen album 'The Wrath of Roxane' will be completed this spring in Los Angeles, releasing under a new PARTNERSHIP between Interscope Records (Geffen/A&M; Universal Music Group) and our new record label E-TRAIN Music Group (EMG; E=MC2 L.L.C.).

This doesn't say whether E-TRAIN is a person, a group, an album, etc. That information needs to be given explicitly in the first sentence. Then it says our new record label. That is inappropriate. Wikipedia articles are supposed to be neutral and impersonal. Many people not affiliated with E-TRAIN may contribute to the article over the years. They cannot refer to a record label as ours if they have nothing to do with it.

Then it says:
 * What has been most impressive throughout E-TRAINs career has been the speed of his evolution. He started as a front porch freestyler at the age of 18, his trademark flavor and flair already visible.
 * What has been most impressive throughout E-TRAINs career has been the speed of his evolution. He started as a front porch freestyler at the age of 18, his trademark flavor and flair already visible.

That sounds like an editorial comment; its bias is clear, and shouldn't be there. It says "he" and "his", presupposing that E-TRAIN is a person, but it's never said so.

An article about a musician named E-TRAIN should begin something like this:
 * E-TRAIN is a musician from Chicago who plays a saxophone/guitar/whatever....
 * E-TRAIN is a musician from Chicago who plays a saxophone/guitar/whatever....

Nothing in the parts I quoted above says whether E-TRAIN is a singer, a guitarist, a songwriter, etc. That information should be right at the beginning. Take a look at some long-existing Wikipedia articles about musicians. For example, one of them begins thus:
 * Nena (born Gabriele Susanne Kerner, March 24, 1960, Hagen, North Rhine-Westphalia, West Germany) is a German singer and actress.
 * Nena (born Gabriele Susanne Kerner, March 24, 1960, Hagen, North Rhine-Westphalia, West Germany) is a German singer and actress.

Here's another:
 * Leslie Feist (born 13 February 1976) is a Canadian singer-songwriter.
 * Leslie Feist (born 13 February 1976) is a Canadian singer-songwriter.

Here's another:
 * Jonny Lang (born Jon Gordon Langseth, Jr., January 29, 1981 in Fargo, North Dakota) is a Grammy award-winning American blues, gospel, and rock singer, songwriter and recording artist.
 * Jonny Lang (born Jon Gordon Langseth, Jr., January 29, 1981 in Fargo, North Dakota) is a Grammy award-winning American blues, gospel, and rock singer, songwriter and recording artist.

The first sentence in the article should give that kind of information. (Also, notice that the person or topic that the article is about is set in bold at the point where it is first mentioned in the article.)

Something written according to Wikipedia's conventions might have a good chance of surviving. In particular, you could look at these:


 * The five pillars of Wikipedia
 * Tutorial
 * How to edit a page and How to develop articles
 * How to create your first article (using the Article Wizard if you wish)
 * Manual of Style

Michael Hardy (talk) 20:07, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
 * ...one other thing: Entering E-TRAIN into the search box gets you to e-train (in lower-case letters), which redirects to an article on a technical concept in biology. A hatnote in the biology article that says
 * E-train redirects here. For the singer, see E-TRAIN.
 * would be in order. Also, a hatnote within the E-TRAIN article could direct the reader to the biology article. Michael Hardy (talk) 03:57, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
 * In addition, the material you posted was copy&pasted from etrainmusic.com or their facebook page and thus at least of unclear copyright status, possibly a copyright violation. Amalthea  15:17, 30 March 2010 (UTC)