User talk:Wikipedian Penguin/Archives/2011/November

Check it out.
--GH200 (talk) 00:55, 1 November 2011 (UTC) Check my groups page out there is a surprise for you.--GH200 (talk) 00:55, 1 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Hm? I don't get it. :( — WP: PENGUIN  · [ TALK ]  10:03, 1 November 2011 (UTC)

Legolas
Hey WP! Did Lego say why he's gone and when he will return? Novice7 (talk) 07:59, 1 November 2011 (UTC)
 * No, he just told me in a GAN that he will have to make the changes when he gets back. Unfortunately, I haven't seen of him in weeks. — WP: PENGUIN  · [ TALK ]  09:49, 1 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Ah, what happened to him? He's on Facebook but I don't have a profile there. I searched using his mail address, but I could not see his activity or anything else :( Novice7 (talk) 10:08, 1 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I hope he's back by December. — WP: PENGUIN  · [ TALK ]  10:09, 1 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I hope so too. By holidays... Novice7 (talk) 10:19, 1 November 2011 (UTC)

Request
Can you please copy-edit this section? ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 12:33, 1 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I had to remove much of the content because it fails WP:PLOT, going into excessive detail without sources. And even with sources, you have to be careful and only summarize the video. Otherwise, good work on the article. — WP: PENGUIN  · [ TALK ]  22:48, 1 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the message ^^^ and thanks for what you left me on my talk-page. It really touched my heart and soul (as Beyonce usually says). If i am not wrong, you are the second person after Nathan who has written what the latter wrote to me a few months ago. It feels nice to know that someone knows how much i work not only on the recent articles but on all the Beyonce articles. (I know the sentence structure is looking awkward. Lol) ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 02:36, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Certainly Jivesh, I meant everything I said on that message seriously. You truly are a great person. Happy editing! — WP: PENGUIN  · [ TALK ]  18:51, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
 * And you too, my dear friend. Bye, take care. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 02:27, 3 November 2011 (UTC)

Hi
Hi, wann be friends?....Do you have Facebook?

Tara1717 (talk) 13:23, 1 November 2011 (UTC)
 * You may find this a shocker, but I don't use Facebook, lol. — WP: PENGUIN  · [ TALK ]  20:30, 1 November 2011 (UTC)

Please participate
Here. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 12:18, 2 November 2011 (UTC)

Nathaniel G. S. Hart
I noticed you're a member of WikiProject MIchigan. I wrote a war of 1812/Michigan-related article, Nathaniel G. S. Hart, and would appreciate an assessment. Thanks, Shearonink (talk) 14:53, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Done. — WP: PENGUIN  · [ TALK ]  18:50, 2 November 2011 (UTC)

Ooh!
You're from NFLD? I'm from PEI! :) — Status  &#x7B;talk contribs  23:38, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Lol, I visited Charlottetown a few years ago. It's a wonderful place. One day however, I dream of living in Toronto. — WP: PENGUIN  · [ TALK ]  00:35, 3 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Damn, I never saw this. I live about an hour away from there. :) I dream of the same thing. Can't say I've ever been to NFLD. D: — Status  &#x7B;talk contribs  04:19, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

Please let us know what you think
My friend, as you know, Beyonce's new album 4 is being handled in a catastrophic way (i do not know if this is a correct word). Please voice your opinion [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Party_(song)#Article.27s_format. here] so that we can decide which format will suit "Party" that best. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 15:36, 4 November 2011 (UTC)

HOla
Hey WP wassup dude? Hello to Jivesh to if you still like me. WAts been going on? Sorry I left you in the dark with the Not Afraid copy-edit. Is it still available? — <i style="color:blue;">Legolas</i> ( talk 2 me ) 10:01, 7 November 2011 (UTC)
 * The message below says all. You didn't miss much, except for a consensus to move to You and I (Lady Gaga song) and Express Yourself is GA. Glad you're back. — WP: PENGUIN  · [ TALK ]  18:23, 7 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Bee tee dubs I will continue with TEOG when you're ready ;-) — WP: PENGUIN  · [ TALK ]  18:40, 7 November 2011 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Not Afraid
The article Not Afraid you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Not Afraid for comments about the article. Well done! There is a backlog of articles waiting for review, why not help out and review a nominated article yourself? <b style="color:orange;">ASHU</b><sup style="color:red;">IND  10:06, 7 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the pass! :) — WP: PENGUIN  · [ TALK ]  18:53, 7 November 2011 (UTC)

Reply to reply
If your admission of having made a mistake can only be expressed as "I must have stated that comment poorly", then fine.

As for adding something in an archived discussion, I know what the rules are; however, it surprised me to see that the comment I made before the discussion was closed was not there. I assumed something had gone wrong at the time of saving and replaced it.

Obviously there are differences in our grammatical applications so I will leave it at that. I trust you will do the same. Chaosdruid (talk) 01:42, 8 November 2011 (UTC)

Eminem's collaborations
You edited the contribution I made on the Eminem associated acts section and deleted Royce da 5'9" from that list. You did mention that Bad Meets Evil covers Royce, but Em and Royce have collaborated even outside the BME project. So I think it's necessary that Royce should be in the associated acts list.

--BoBjOnEsPiE (Send me a message) 22:52, 8 November 2011 (UTC)
 * We typically do not add solo artists to that list unless the person has influenced Eminem's career largely. Royce has not largely influenced Eminem's career to the extent that people like Dr. Dre have. — WP: PENGUIN  · [ TALK ]  00:53, 9 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Well, who put up those rules? I go to any other artist's page, and it just shows their collaborations, not people who influenced him. That's why it's called "associated acts". It's supposed to be the people he associated with. Otherwise, if it were "influenced by", then it would make sense. But it's not. --BoBjOnEsPiE (Send me a message) 13:56, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Eminem's done songs with T.I., Nicki Minaj, Slaughterhouse, Dido, etc. Listing them all would clutter the infobox. Clearly other infoboxes you are referring to are wrong. — WP: PENGUIN  · [ TALK ]  18:23, 16 November 2011 (UTC)


 * I'm not saying that you should clutter up the associated acts section with people he collaborated with once or twice. I'm saying add people who didn't influence him, but collaborated with him many times. So Royce da 5'9" and 50 Cent are the only two other people that are missing from that section.
 * Tbh, Royce and Eminem didn't release too many songs as separate solo acts. As for 50, I guess we can add that. — WP: PENGUIN  · [ TALK ]  22:43, 16 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Alright, then. Thank you. -- Bobjonespie ( My talk ) 23:06, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
 * No problem. You might want to reduce the font size of your new sig. Love it though. — WP: PENGUIN  · [ TALK ]  23:27, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

Another discussion, this time regarding "Love on Top"
First of all, my sincere thanks for your participation in previous Beyonce-related discussion. I request you to please weigh your opinion here. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 06:39, 10 November 2011 (UTC)

Hey
I really don't understand number 2, 3, 4 and 6 issues. Can you further explain them here or on my talkpage? — Tomica1111  &bull;  Question Existing?  13:41, 13 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Of course I can. :)
 * 2. Efe elaborates on this and makes an edit to show you how it is done. Ellipses are used when parts are omitted in the middle of the quotation, not in the beginning, where it is purely redundant.
 * 3. Take a look at Love the Way You Lie in edit mode. Look at the dates and ellpses. Notice there are (ampersand)nbsp(semicolon)s? These are invisible, but prevent the group of words and numbers linked by the nbsps from being broken to start a new line. It's hard to eplain. WP:NBSP.
 * 4. Do not specify how many pixels an image should have, as you should allow user preferences to set the size of pictures in articles, not your own custom.
 * 6. What page do you get the liner notes? Specify in the Template:Cite album-notes or whatever template you use to format the reference.
 * — WP: PENGUIN  · [ TALK ]  14:09, 13 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Penguin, i think you are becoming Nikki 2.0 Beware. Lol. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 14:18, 13 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I think I am finally getting a decent grasp of what FAC reviewers want from an article. I am no expert yet though. — WP: PENGUIN  · [ TALK ]  14:30, 13 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Really? Do tell me. I am dying to know. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 14:34, 13 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Would you mind telling me your name? I mean the first one. Mine is really Jivesh. I don't mind telling you my name in full... Jivesh Kumar Boodhun. (I am not Indian) ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 14:36, 13 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Lol, I prefer to keep myself anonymous on Wiki. People here call me WP or Penguin. You can coin any nickname for me you wan,t even if it is offensive. ;) — WP: PENGUIN  · [ TALK ]  14:41, 13 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Let it be then. I will call you Penguin. Hope it is okay! See you soon. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 14:43, 13 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes I wish I could know your real name. I would love to call you Stan after my favorite Eminem song. Would you liek it? :) And nice points you explained above to Tomica. Also, does TEOG needs further reviewing? I saw almost all the points were addressed by DAP, I did the rest. Will you take a look? This shit is laying idle too long. All my fault though. — <i style="color:blue;">Legolas</i> ( talk 2 me ) 15:40, 13 November 2011 (UTC)

Me 2 Avi but he will not tell his name. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 15:44, 13 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Isn't Stan what fanboys are called? Anyway, sure you can call me that. I'll go ahead and close that review. I don't even pay attention to 1-week-on-hold restrictions anymore. — WP: PENGUIN  · [ TALK ]  15:46, 13 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes, well your total dedication to Eminem and your wonderful craftsmanship over it makes me wanna call you that. I've never seen a more talented newbie than you WP (or Stan). Lol, thanks for passing "The Edge of Glory". And if you think updating the article history, I have to update all my status for the GA. I lose count of it, really. Before Axl (Tbhtoch) was a sweetheart and use to do it for me. : ) — <i style="color:blue;">Legolas</i> ( talk 2 me ) 15:56, 13 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Penguin, i am off to bed now. Gonna wake up at 2 AM tomorrow to revise,. Bye. See you later. Before i go, i am posting this. Just saw this. atrl.net is crazy with these gifs. And Avi, i feel a little jealous. Lol. It's a joke. See you all later. Take care both of you. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 15:59, 13 November 2011 (UTC)
 * @Legolas I don't know why he left, most likely because of CharlieJS? @Jivesh, "Sweet Dreams". — WP: PENGUIN  · [ TALK ]  16:04, 13 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I think Axl got the taste of the elitist "fuck you" people of Wikipedia. He did not leave because of CharlieASS. Jivoo why are you jealous? Stan, when do you plan to take LTWYL for FAC? — <i style="color:blue;">Legolas</i> ( talk 2 me ) 11:19, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
 * For nothing. Lol. My paper today was G-R-E-A-T. Lol, i know this is random but i just needed to tell it to someone. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 12:19, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
 * @Legolas? What do you mean? C'mon, admit it, the article is still well under-prepared. I'm too anal over the prose of LTWYL. PS I know the folk you are talking about, but man is he a master of prose. — WP: PENGUIN  · [ TALK ]  18:34, 14 November 2011 (UTC)


 * No, they are not assessments but my final exams. (Last year exams). It was Chemistry. I have decided to go with "Single Ladies" and "Best Thing I Never Had". ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 03:40, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Oh well I'm glad it turned out well for you. And best of luck with your FACs also. Great choices! — WP: PENGUIN  · [ TALK ]  18:40, 15 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks. You are very nice. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 21:46, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Wait, isn't it nearly 2 am where you live? — WP: PENGUIN  · [ TALK ]  21:49, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes, i woke up early to revise. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 21:55, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Bonne chance! :) — WP: PENGUIN  · [ TALK ]  22:16, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Merci pour me souihaiter bonne chance et aussi pour ta gentillesse. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 22:38, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
 * De rien, bien sur. C'est evident que cette époque de l'année est quand tout le monde a des papiers et des examens. Lol, ai-je dit cela correctement? — WP: PENGUIN  · [ TALK ]  22:41, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
 * J'aurai préféré... "sont en période d'examens". Lol ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 22:47, 15 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Well it does violate that clause. So...

USA Mediabase Airplay:


 * 12/09 Party f/Kanye & Andre = 6.955 (+ 0.317)
 * 13/09 Party f/Kanye & Andre = 6.955 (+ 0.317)
 * 14/09 Party f/Kanye & Andre = 7.895 (+ 0.443)
 * 15/09 Party f/Kanye & Andre = 8.094 (+ 0.199)
 * 16/09 Party f/Kanye & Andre = 8.449 (+ 0.355)
 * 17/09 Party f/Kanye & Andre = 8.770 (+ 0.321)
 * 18/09 Party f/Kanye & Andre = 8.920 (+ 0.150)
 * 19/09 Party f/Kanye & Andre = 9.107 (+ 0.187)
 * 20/09 Party f/Kanye & Andre = 9.425 (+ 0.318)
 * 21/09 Party f/Kanye & Andre = 9.615 (+ 0.190)
 * 22/09 Party f/Kanye & Andre = 10.319 (+ 0.704)
 * 23/09 Party f/Kanye & Andre = 10.759 (+ 0.440)
 * 24/09 Party f/Kanye & Andre = 11.304 (+ 0.545)
 * 25/09 Party f/Kanye & Andre = 11.842 (+ 0.538)
 * 26/09 Party f/Kanye & Andre = 12.640 (+ 0.798)
 * 27/09 Party f/Kanye & Andre = 13.109 (+ 0.469)
 * 28/09 Party f/Kanye & Andre = 13.760 (+ 0.651)
 * 29/09 Party f/Kanye & Andre = 14.330 (+ 0.570)
 * 30/09 Party f/Kanye & Andre = 14.704 (+ 0.374)
 * 01/10 Party f/Kanye & Andre = 15.356 (+ 0.652)
 * 02/10 Party f/Kanye & Andre = 16.197 (+ 0.841)
 * 03/10 Party f/Kanye & Andre = 16.495 (+ 0.298)
 * 04/10 Party f/Kanye & Andre = 17.480 (+ 0.985)
 * 05/10 Party f/Kanye & Andre = 18.258 (+ 0.778)
 * 06/10 Party f/Kanye & Andre = 19.165 (+ 0.907)
 * 07/10 Party f/Kanye & Andre = 19.940 (+ 0.775)
 * 08/10 Party f/Kanye & Andre = 20.611 (+ 0.671)
 * 09/10 Party f/Kanye & Andre = 21.008 (+ 0.367)
 * 10/10 Party f/Kanye & Andre = 21.834 (+ 0.826)
 * 11/10 Party f/Kanye & Andre: 22.315 (+ 0.481)
 * 12/10 Party f/Kanye & Andre: 22.626 (+ 0.311)
 * 13/10 Party f/Kanye & Andre: 22.492 (- 0.134)
 * 14/10 Party f/Kanye & Andre: 22.890 (+ 0.398)
 * 15/10 Party f/Kanye & Andre: 23.558 (+ 0.668)
 * 16/10 Party f/Kanye & Andre: 23.879 (+ 0.321)
 * 17/10 Party f/Kanye & Andre: 24.288 (+ 0.409)
 * 18/10 Party f/Kanye & Andre: 24.727 (+ 0.439)
 * 19/10 Party f/Kanye & Andre: 25.439 (+ 0.712)
 * 20/10 Party f/Kanye & Andre: 26.260 (+ 0.821)
 * 21/10 Party f/Kanye & Andre: 26.722 (+ 0.462)
 * 22/10 Party f/Kanye & Andre: 27.238 (+ 0.516)
 * 23/10 Party f/Kanye & Andre: 27.570 (+ 0.332)
 * 24/10 Party f/Kanye & Andre: 28.093 (+ 0.523)
 * 25/10 Party f/Kanye & Andre: 28.851 (+ 0.758)
 * 26/10 Party f/Kanye & Andre: 29.468 (+ 0.617)
 * 27/10 Party f/Kanye & Andre: 29.998 (+ 0.530)
 * 28/10 Party f/Kanye & Andre: 30.578 (+ 0.580)
 * 29/10 Party f/Kanye & Andre: 31.071 (+ 0.493)
 * 30/10 Party f/Kanye & Andre: 31.634 (+ 0.563)
 * 31/10 Party f/Kanye & Andre: 32.206 (+ 0.572)
 * 01/11 Party f/Kanye & Andre: 32.554 (+ 0.348)
 * 02/11 Party f/Kanye & Andre: 32.750 (+ 0.196)
 * 03/11 Party f/Kanye & Andre: 33.138 (+ 0.388)
 * 04/11 Party f/Kanye & Andre: 33.763 (+ 0.625)
 * 05/11 Party f/Kanye & Andre: 34.082 (+ 0.319)
 * 06/11 Party f/Kanye & Andre: 34.611 (+ 0.529)
 * 07/11 Party f/Kanye & Andre: 34.993 (+ 0.382)
 * 08/11 Party f/Kanye & Andre: 35.232 (+ 0.239)
 * 09/11 Party f/Kanye & Andre: 35.850 (+ 0.618)
 * 10/11 Party f/Kanye & Andre: 36.449 (+ 0.599)
 * 11/11 Party f/Kanye & Andre: 37.156 (+ 0.707)
 * 12/11 Party f/Kanye & Andre: 37.884 (+ 0.728)
 * 13/11 Party f/Kanye & Andre: 38.722 (+ 0.838)
 * 14/11 Party f/Kanye & Andre: 39.546 (+ 0.824)

And she has zero support form pop, HAC, etc. Truly, urban radios are worshiping Beyonce this era after the big letdown on the I Am... Sasha Fierce era. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 00:54, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
 * o.o This is crazy. I think everyone will be "talkin' tomorrow" and I didn't even think this would be more successful than "Love on Top" simply because of the controversial VMA performance. She is one helluva queen! — WP: PENGUIN  · [ TALK ]  00:58, 16 November 2011 (UTC)


 * "Party" is a big airplay hit but it is a big flop on iTunes. And yes, i am the one saying this. Lol. I just hope Pop stations pick this up. And remember LOT charted out of downloads, not airplay. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 01:03, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I badly need to get in my revision notes. Bye. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 01:06, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
 * We'll continue later, lol. — WP: PENGUIN  · [ TALK ]  01:08, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

Help
Hello, penguin. Do you know where I could find a barnstar to give out to someone? I cannot seem to find any. BenWasHere (talk) 01:24, 15 November 2011 (UTC)


 * At the top of anyone's talk-page, you will see a *heart* next to View history. Click on it. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 12:01, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
 * That is, if you are using the default Vector skin, which is most likely. :) — WP: PENGUIN  · [ TALK ]  19:13, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Thank you both. BenWasHere (talk) 22:00, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

Request
May I get your input about a dispute regarding sources and music genres? A certain editor User:Dan56 has introduced the term "downtempo" as a music genre into the Take Care article. Upon my reversion of the term, which almost resulted in 3RR (I admit, I should know better), the user provided only two very vague sources the he believes support his claim. The first, a Rolling Stone review, makes a single mention of the term "[the album] blurs hip-hop, R&B and downtempo dance music"; another article, The AVClub, writes, without even mentioning "downtempo": "Crafted primarily around the oblique production of Drakes native Toronto—all rippling synths, distant pulses, and purposeful empty space—his follow-up album is plenty downbeat, but its also gorgeous." Do you believe that these quotes are strong evidence to support his claim that "downbeat" is a musical genre, and not just the tempo/pace/mood of the songs, as I argue? Oran e  (talk)  06:15, 16 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Sorry to but in, but it's not a claim. "Downtempo" is in fact a genre. Dan56 (talk) 06:19, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
 * If I am correct, downbeat and downtempo are synonymous. Downtempo can actually mean both an electronic sub-genre and a miscellaneous piece with a low tempo, primarily the former. It's really difficult to determine which meaning is being used in the contexts of the sources. Sorry that's all I can say. You might want to seek someone with better expertise as I have little to no knowledge about music composition. ;-) — WP: PENGUIN  · [ TALK ]  10:45, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your input. The downbeat article actually contains nothing but original research, so I don't know. Either way, I've decided to move on from the matter. Thanks again. Oran e   (talk)  04:40, 17 November 2011 (UTC)
 * No problem, whatsoever. :) — WP: PENGUIN  · [ TALK ]

New message

 * I resolved the last issue on the article. Please do not prepare other package of issues.:D hah — Tomica1111  &bull;  Question Existing?  22:16, 17 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Quotes resolved! Commented on the FAC ...:) — Tomica1111  &bull;  Question Existing?  10:13, 18 November 2011 (UTC)
 * And what's with the opinion?:) Sorry to hurry you up, but you know that If there is no activeness on the FAC it will be closed. — Tomica1111  &bull;  Question Existing?  11:06, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Very close to support. I am copy-editing the article right now. — WP: PENGUIN  · [ TALK ]  11:45, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Oooh, so happy :)... But, I want to ask you something ... should the number up than 9 be written numerically, or eventually with text. I think that they should be in written (textual form)... What do you think? — Tomica1111  &bull;  Question Existing?  14:43, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I am going to say numerals, because that is what the Manual of Style says, I believe. And see my latest comment at FAC page. It's about the prose. — WP: PENGUIN  · [ TALK ]  15:02, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
 * So the sentence (in the lead) The song reached number sixteen on the UK Singles Chart, and number eighteen on the US Billboard Hot 100 chart ... should be changed to The song reached number 16 on the UK Singles Chart, and number 18 on the US Billboard Hot 100 chart. Right? I saw the comment, I am thinking of ways how can I resolve that prose. — Tomica1111  &bull;  Question Existing?  15:06, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Fixed prose. Check and tell me what do you think. — Tomica1111  &bull;  Question Existing?  15:16, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Penguin one more question. Am I able to create External links section in "Rehab" and add the link for the music video. Or it is forbidden when article is this close to become a FA? — Tomica1111  &bull;  Question Existing?  10:35, 20 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Tbh, I don't know. I'm not sure about the rules of listing a YouTube video on an FA. You can ask Nikki. — WP: PENGUIN  · [ TALK ]  10:36, 20 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Okay I will. Thanks anyway. — Tomica1111  &bull;  Question Existing?  10:40, 20 November 2011 (UTC)
 * What I told you. There is one oppose ! According to Journalist there are some prose issues. I resolved some of them, however, the other are too complicated for me. I asked Baffle gab to help me, however, you can also do it If you know how. — Tomica1111  &bull;  Question Existing?  10:34, 22 November 2011 (UTC)
 * After performing a show in New York City, Rihanna and Timberlake went to a studio where he began writing "Rehab" for her.[1] Hannon Lane co-wrote and co-produced the single.[2] Timbaland also recruited the help of American pop singer and musician Justin Timberlake, with whom he had previous collaborated... Do you really think that this prose makes sense now ?— Tomica1111  &bull;  Question Existing?  11:08, 22 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Wow, that was horrible. :/ I guess you have to be a bit creative, because I am not good at addressing issues in articles I have not written. :( — WP: PENGUIN  · [ TALK ]  18:35, 22 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Look at the section now. Journalist composed it on the talk page. I added it and kind off c/e something. Feel free to c/e additionally if there is something. ;) — Tomica1111  &bull;  Question Existing?  11:44, 23 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Will have a look tonight surely. :) — WP: PENGUIN  · [ TALK ]  18:20, 23 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I made some changes in the chart performance. Check them and feel free to c/e. Btw, Journalist also pointed me to write how "Rehab" charted in a comparison with the other GGGB singles. Can you give me some advice how to do it. And what do you think about what I have responded to him? It doesn't sound rude right? — Tomica1111  &bull;  Question Existing?  16:39, 24 November 2011 (UTC)
 * That's a good idea. Just make sure you don't start talking about every position of every week. That gets boring. I never found reading about charts that interesting if you ask me. ;-)
 * Hey Penguin, how are you these days?:) Can you help me with the "Rehab" prose, posted by Journalist and Legolas on the talkpage? I really don't have an idea how to progress it and If I don't do it soon, the FAC will be closed as a result of non activity. — Tomica1111  &bull;  Question Existing?  10:41, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I'll see what I can do, Tom. No problem. — WP: PENGUIN  · [ TALK ]  18:22, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I appreciate that. You know it ;) ! — Tomica1111  &bull;  Question Existing?  18:25, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Annnnddd ... I am not angry about Loud, however, you could wait for some time. However, "Rehab" is my main preocupation at the moment. So I expect some Rehab prose editing by you to make my day better :) ! — Tomica1111  &bull;  Question Existing?  14:40, 30 November 2011 (UTC)

We Found Love (video)
I'm not sure how I should write the lead, it's not like a song article. Calvin  &bull; Talk That Talk 19:40, 17 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Suggestion:
 * Para 1: Development and background as well as release
 * Para 2: Synopsis and pop culture refs
 * Para 3: Reception, comparisons and themes
 * Remember, because the final paragraph will most likely be the longest, it is important to only have brief and very important details only in the lead. — WP: PENGUIN  · [ TALK ]  19:46, 17 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Yeah, because I haven't found any music videos with are a GA, there's not really a set format to go by. Thanks :) Calvin  &bull; Talk That Talk  19:48, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

S&M
?. Calvin  &bull; Talk That Talk 22:52, 17 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Removed the nomination template. You don't just place it and leave it there without creating a FAC page. Or in this case, it was deleted. Lol. And take my word, get it copy-edited and polished. You have WP:PRs and WikiProject_Guild_of_Copy_Editors/Requests/Potential_Featured_Articles. For the latter, more experienced users will look at your article, so it's a safer approach for FA-to-bes. Don't feel that the article is ready, because new things will be raised in this FAC that were unnoticed in FAC1, 2, and 3. — WP: PENGUIN  · [ TALK ]  23:00, 17 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I didn't. I nominated it like days ago, and Nikki withdrew it because a time period of 2 weeks hadn't elapsed from my last FAC encounter, and FAC/4 of S&M was deleted. I don't know why it was still left on the article's talk page. Calvin  &bull; Talk That Talk  23:04, 17 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Bots aren't programmed to remove templates in the case of a FAC deletion. — WP: PENGUIN  · [ TALK ]  23:06, 17 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I didn't know it was still there. But I wouldn't nominate for FAC without creating the review page, I've been through the process enough times to know what to do. Calvin  &bull; Talk That Talk  23:07, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Not Afraid
PanydThe muffin is not subtle 08:03, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

Time (magazine)

 * cite web or cite news? ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 07:56, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Cite web. Or if you're using the actual printed source (no URL), use Cite journal. — WP: PENGUIN  · [ TALK ]  11:44, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
 * But isn't it a newspaper? ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 12:00, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Nope. It's a magazine, albeit one focusing on news. — WP: PENGUIN  · [ TALK ]  12:02, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
 * When i read the article, it says newspaper. I am confused. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 12:03, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Check again. You may have misread something ;) — WP: PENGUIN  · [ TALK ]  12:08, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Oh yes, i was so wrong. I am sorry. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 12:11, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Lol. :) — WP: PENGUIN  · [ TALK ]  12:13, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I love this gif communication. I was competing with Legolas on a gif game and look at what he did to me. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 12:17, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Ricki Lake wig snatch never gets old. xD


 * Lol. I guess it is the name of one of the two persons in that gif. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 12:32, 19 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your help. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 17:30, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm amazed by your patience to review that article. Oh well, Talk:Love the Way You Lie/GA1 was pretty hectic too. That article too was well underprepared during GAN. — WP: PENGUIN  · [ TALK ]  17:33, 19 November 2011 (UTC)


 * You cannot even imagine all the patience i have inside me. Lol. Thank you. Wow that review was massive. Luckily, you got a nice reviewer. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 17:35, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I've learned from it. I think you should remain patient. After all, Calvin works hard on Rihanna articles. It is good though you are giving it a good review. Not many of the Rihanna GAs have gotten thorough reviews. — WP: PENGUIN  · [ TALK ]  17:43, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Yeas i know but sometimes he does not listen. But that's something natural of human beings. Lol. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 17:45, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Lol, you remember the "Wait Your Turn" GAN? — WP: PENGUIN  · [ TALK ]  17:48, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Please do not remind me of that. I beg you. Lol. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 17:51, 19 November 2011 (UTC)

? Calvin  &bull; Talk That Talk  17:53, 19 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Have you forgotten how huge that review was and on top of that for a 24 K song. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 17:58, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Is there something people wanna tell me? Calvin  &bull; Talk That Talk  18:00, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Something I would not care to repeat, not after the GAR. That user (THR) made a huge song and dance about the lack of development info. — WP: PENGUIN  · [ TALK ]  18:01, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
 * No. May i know why you are adopting this tone? ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 18:02, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I don't like it when I see people talking about me in this way. Calvin  &bull; Talk That Talk  18:03, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Penguin, you stole my gif. This is not done. Lol. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 18:04, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
 * @Calvin, which way? ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 18:04, 19 November 2011 (UTC)

We are not trying to offend you, Calvin. :'( It's just that you were making references to other articles, which is WP:WAXy. We all respect you as a hard worker, but Jivesh knows what he's doing. He's been around longer than any of us. Actually, Jivesh, I found that on atrl.net. I guess you found it first though, lol. — WP: PENGUIN  · [ TALK ]  18:09, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I fail to see how I don't listen. I always do what others tell me, and if I don't understand something or think something should not be changed, I tell the reviewer. I don't ignore what the reviewer says. Calvin  &bull; Talk That Talk  18:12, 19 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Calvin, how can you be so negative. Did you see these : But that's something natural of human beings. and Calvin works hard on Rihanna articles. Please stop it now Calvin.


 * @Penguin, i did not understand what you saw on atrl.net? ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 18:16, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
 * The gif. :D — WP: PENGUIN  · [ TALK ]  18:17, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Oh i just understood. Lol. So you visit that forum? All those drama there make me laugh. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 18:19, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Anyone can have an off day Jivesh, just like you did the other day. I'm tired and I'm trying to resolve issues on Te Amo, but things are just being bounced back at me without any points for help, like the reference list you just gave. I'm not trying to be awkward or annoying, I'm just asking about things. Calvin  &bull; Talk That Talk  18:22, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
 * What i did last time was a bad joke. This is different. Sometimes i get the impression you do not read well. You just post "but... It is not that way... No" .... etc. Listen Calvin, if you are tired, take a day off. Sleep well. Wake up tomorrow, and if you have time, then tackle the issues with a fresh mind. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 18:25, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
 * What? When do I ever say those things. I didn't release that asking questions about things was considered a bad thing. Calvin  &bull; Talk That Talk  18:29, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
 * It depends on the question and the experience you have. 14 GAs speak for themselves. Now it depends how they were handled (?). Asking questions is not bad but every time i review your articles, i see the same mistakes occurring. You should learn from the mistakes other correct for you. Please Calvin, heed my advice, go to bed. Come back tomorrow. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 18:34, 19 November 2011 (UTC)

Love the Way You Lie (video)
Don't let that editor take the credit for what you created and wrote. Calvin  &bull; Talk That Talk 18:39, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Redirected by Esanchez. I am completely against the creation of a separate article for LTWYL's vid. The article would be too short, and would have only three sections of prose. Thanks for the notice :). — WP: PENGUIN  · [ TALK ]  18:44, 19 November 2011 (UTC)

Question [ Not the beginning of "Independent Women (Part 1) ]
How can i know what articles i have reviewed for GA? I do not remember anymore. Lol. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 10:40, 20 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Lol, how helpful would this be? And care explaining me the heading? :) — WP: PENGUIN  · [ TALK ]  10:49, 20 November 2011 (UTC)


 * You are an angle. Lol. Hmmm, that difficult to explain. Have you ever listened to "Independent Women (Part 1)"? ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 10:56, 20 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Ah, classic R&B... but what is the context here for that, lol? — WP: PENGUIN  · [ TALK ]  10:58, 20 November 2011 (UTC)


 * The song starts with "Question... " Lol. I am getting very naughty these days. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 10:59, 20 November 2011 (UTC)
 * LOL. How's SLPAROI coming along? Need any help? — WP: PENGUIN  · [ TALK ]  11:01, 20 November 2011 (UTC)
 * What do you think of the article now? Do you know you got me pondering on what that SLPAROI stands for ... hmmm for like 45 seconds? ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 11:04, 20 November 2011 (UTC)


 * You just slayed my Wikipedia life. You deserve them all. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 11:07, 20 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Lol, how about SL(PAROI) then? And yes, I keep that page tucked away to keep myself from looking arrogant, lol. As for the soon-to-be-FA, it's looking good, really. The prose could go through some c/e. Dare I suggest WP:GOCEFA for that? After all, I'm not a FA level copy editor. And Baffle gab looks like a very skilled copy editor, too bad he's busy though. I'm also suspicious about some souces, such as PopMatters, Sputnikmusic and Urlesque. Great job, though. — WP: PENGUIN  · [ TALK ]  11:14, 20 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Well all those sources have already been debated in the previous two FACs and Nikki agreed on keeping them. So what i will do is just a copy-paste again. Lol. Hmmm, SL(PAROI) is flawless. Penguin, does that mean, the prose is still looking bad? ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 11:18, 20 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Certainly not, Jivesh. The prose can't be bad after all these months. However, it's a good recommendation to polish it while you still can. "Oppose" is a gross word, isn't it? — WP: PENGUIN  · [ TALK ]  11:22, 20 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes WP, i think i am getting what you are telling me now. But i did my best. I cannot do more. And that article is simply huge. In 2010, when i promoted it to GA, i think it was at 135Kb. Lol. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 11:25, 20 November 2011 (UTC)
 * 135 KB my friend, is about the size of this FA. — WP: PENGUIN   · [ TALK ]  11:30, 20 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Wow, you know all these articles. Lol. I cannot tell you how much my heart cried when i had to remove those 15 Kb. It's not a joke.Hope i am no scaring you. Lol. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 11:32, 20 November 2011 (UTC)
 * The article I am working on is around 127 KB, which is giant for a song. By the way, you might find this interesting. — WP: PENGUIN  · [ TALK ]  11:34, 20 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Do you know why i have not nominated I Am... Sasha Fierce' for GA yet? Because i prefer it remains a B-Class rather than having a reviewer who tells me to remove 55 Kb from the article. Thanks for that link. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 11:38, 20 November 2011 (UTC)
 * The most you would have to trim down is probably 20 KB maybe? How did it even get that long? — WP: PENGUIN  · [ TALK ]  11:42, 20 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Sincerely, i do not know and i did not put a lot of blablabla. That era was so good. Everything was handled properly. That length was inevitable with all the charts, reviews, and awards. What should i remove according to you? ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 11:45, 20 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Nothing that I can see... — WP: PENGUIN  · [ TALK ]  11:46, 20 November 2011 (UTC)
 * That's the problem. You see. Lol. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 11:48, 20 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I guess it makes sense, lol. — WP: PENGUIN  · [ TALK ]  11:50, 20 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Exactly. I need to go now. See you later. Take care. (Not by Drake but by Me, Myself and I) .Lol. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 11:53, 20 November 2011 (UTC)

How do you nominate an article for DYK?
? Calvin  &bull; Talk That Talk  11:45, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
 * First, you have to prepare a hook (a small yet interesting fact) that starts with "...that". It has to be directly cited in the article prose and the source must be reliable. The article must be newly created (The article cannot be older than five days) or must have been expanded 5x the previous prose size (no more than five days ago). See WP:WIADYK for the criteria. Then, follow the instructions at DYKT to create your nom page and to transclude it into WP:DYKT. Hope that helps. — WP: PENGUIN  · [ TALK ]  11:59, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Oh right okay. Thanks. I think that's a bit shit that you have to do it within 5 days of the article being created. Most articles take a lot longer than that to get up to size. And what did you mean by "manners" ? Calvin  &bull; Talk That Talk  12:02, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Just an edit to my own comment to prevent me from sounding rude. Nothing about you lol. You should see Template:Did you know nominations/Not Afraid for how difficult these can actually get. — WP: PENGUIN  · [ TALK ]  12:04, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Seems like more hassle than it is worth to me. Calvin  &bull; Talk That Talk  12:25, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
 * This is why getting a DYK is valued. It may look much easier than GAN, but in reality, it isn't. — WP: PENGUIN  · [ TALK ]  12:27, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I just don't see how you are mean't to create a decent one within 5 days. What if something better comes up? It's like, I could have done one for the Music video of We Found Love, but it's gone over the 5 days. Calvin  &bull; Talk That Talk  12:29, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Five days is plenty to create a decent article. Plus, Calvin, DYK reviewers enjoy short and interesting articles rather than long and boring ones (Not Afraid is the latter). You could try it with the "Talk That Talk" song article. — WP: PENGUIN  · [ TALK ]  12:31, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Which TTT article? Calvin  &bull; Talk That Talk  12:39, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
 * The song in Tom's sandbox? — WP: PENGUIN  · [ TALK ]  13:22, 21 November 2011 (UTC)

Ahh okay. That's if there is anything decent worth mentioning. We Found Love is her only recent new article which I think has anything which could have been used, with all the music video comparisons and being her 11th number one and all. If TTT (song) hits number one, then that could be used. Calvin  &bull; Talk That Talk 13:35, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
 * What exactly is so interesting about a song reaching number one? — WP: PENGUIN  · [ TALK ]  13:39, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
 * She will become tied with Madonna with 12 number one singles. Calvin  &bull; Talk That Talk  13:42, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Oooh... okay. Well that better be sourced in the article, or else it will get a big fat X on the nom page. — WP: PENGUIN  · [ TALK ]  13:48, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Lol. Even if Talk That Talk or You Da One don't hit #1, We Found Love definitely won't be the only number one single. And thanks for Hard c/e. Calvin  &bull; Talk That Talk  13:51, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
 * No problem at all. It just snowed like hell a few days ago and I can't wait to escape to Florida! :D — WP: PENGUIN  · [ TALK ]  14:02, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Lol where are you again? Calvin  &bull; Talk That Talk  14:05, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
 * It's written on my user page, lol. — WP: PENGUIN  · [ TALK ]  14:06, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Ohh yeah. We haven't had any snow yet. But same, I can't wait to leave for Florida lol. Calvin  &bull; Talk That Talk  14:07, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Lol, my mom can't stand Florida. We went there this July and it was so humid! Our day at Universal was rainy... — WP: PENGUIN  · [ TALK ]  14:10, 21 November 2011 (UTC)

Lol. My dad says every year "Right, next year we are doing somewhere else. We've done Florida now". Eight times and eleven years later...lol Calvin  &bull; Talk That Talk  14:12, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
 * My family's planned to go to Paris for a while now, but I heard it's pretty cold there lol. — WP: PENGUIN  · [ TALK ]  14:14, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Yeah the north of of France gets the same sort of weather than we do. Have you been to England? Calvin  &bull; Talk That Talk  14:22, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I've been to Manchester and London. — WP: PENGUIN  · [ TALK ]  14:24, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Cool. I've never been to Canada. Calvin  &bull; Talk That Talk  14:29, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Don't EVER come here in the winter lol. — WP: PENGUIN  · [ TALK ]  14:31, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Haha. Calvin  &bull; Talk That Talk  14:33, 21 November 2011 (UTC)

Hard
No I don't mind, it's just extra chart info. Why is the Lead of LTWYL 4 paragraphs then? Calvin  &bull; Talk That Talk 16:37, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
 * LTWYL (along with "Like a Prayer", "Single Ladies" and "Born This Way") is one of the longest song articles on Wikipedia. It has 37 KB of prose (or 37,000 characters). Per MOS:LEAD, an article above 30,000 characters of prose can have three to four paragraphs in the lead. Plus, the article has so much to cover (i.e. composition, recording, writing, reception, music videos, covers, sequel, performances...). — WP: PENGUIN  · [ TALK ]  16:45, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Okay. Calvin  &bull; Talk That Talk  16:53, 21 November 2011 (UTC)

Urlesque
Please help me to defend that source at the FAC. What i provided was not enough. Jivesh 1205 (talk) 12:40, 22 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I searched for editorial information, author background, sorry; found nothing. — WP: PENGUIN  · [ TALK ]  19:01, 22 November 2011 (UTC)
 * It does not matter. Jivesh 1205 (talk) 04:31, 23 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Could you comment on the FAC? I fear it gets closed due to inactivity. Jivesh 1205 (talk) 12:13, 23 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Will do so in a few hours. — WP: PENGUIN  · [ TALK ]  18:22, 23 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Jivesh 1205 (talk) 17:39, 24 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Best of luck, my friend. It's difficult but not impossible. Plus you're solo now, Andrew's gone. — WP: PENGUIN  · [ TALK ]  17:49, 24 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I know. Lol. Penguin, i just wanted to tell you that i know sometimes my way of writing gives the impression that i am being aggressive but trust me, i am not like that. I mean when i write, i don't have the kind of face as if i would have eaten you alive if you were in front of me. Hmmm, you understand? Jivesh 1205 (talk) 17:56, 24 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Jivesh, I was never given that impression. :/ I know you are a kind person, even when you don't mean to sound rude. — WP: PENGUIN  · [ TALK ]  18:05, 24 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks Penguin. You know, i try my best to write things well but if ever you think i sound rude, please tell me rather than keeping it for yourself as doing so may affect our friendship. And i do not want that to happen. Okay. *Wiki hugs* Jivesh 1205 (talk) 18:08, 24 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Lol. No worries. — WP: PENGUIN  · [ TALK ]  18:10, 24 November 2011 (UTC)

How?
How/why are you not an Admin yet? Oran e  (talk)  09:34, 25 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I made this account in July 2008, made a few edits and went hiatus for three years? I've only been as active as I am now since May 2011. :) — WP: PENGUIN  · [ TALK ]  11:06, 25 November 2011 (UTC)
 * We're going to have to change that soon. :) Just give it a month or two... maybe not even that long. Oran e   (talk)  21:15, 28 November 2011 (UTC)
 * No RfA plans right now. Would like to maybe try and get involved more in under-the-hood stuff in Wikipedia. I'm more of a content editor. ;-) This is my desperation for FA. — WP: PENGUIN  · [ TALK ]  21:21, 28 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Fair enough. But whenever you are ready, just nudge me ;) Also, the article looks amazing. My writing is probably not as good as yours, but if you ever need anything, just say the word.  Oran e   (talk)  07:55, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

Gaga Thanksgiving
I started adding reviews and some minor re-arrangement. I think the synopsis could be expanded further, and production details are emerging. Stan, I think we need to move it to the main space in lieu of this. If further details come regarding the EP, we might have to split it up from the special. Try and see if you can find the ratings for the special. Happy Thanksgiving. — <i style="color:blue;">Legolas</i> ( talk 2 me ) 14:50, 25 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Thank you so much! I'll see what I can find and will move it into mainspaace. I highly doubt the EP will ever meet WP:NALBUMS so a split will not be needed. — WP: PENGUIN  · [ TALK ]  18:31, 25 November 2011 (UTC)

Where Have You Been
How should I write Teaming with pop vet Dr. Luke, Harris offers up more house-DJ bait with Where Have You Been, which begins with a cold-pulsing 4/4 beat before falling into a rapturous Daft Punk-style breakdown. in the article? Which section should it go in? Because the reviewer isn't praising or criticizing but nor does she really give much about the composition. Calvin  &bull; Watch n'  Learn 19:57, 25 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Hmm, I see it as composition. — WP: PENGUIN  · [ TALK ]  19:59, 25 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Okay thanks. Do you think it could be called a house song? Calvin  &bull; Watch  n'  Learn 20:02, 25 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Maybe. Consider doing some more research first though. — WP: PENGUIN  · [ TALK ]  20:11, 25 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Another review has also said house. Calvin  &bull; Watch  n'  Learn 20:15, 25 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I think it's safe to say it's house, considering there is no genre filled out yet in the infobox. — WP: PENGUIN  · [ TALK ]  20:16, 25 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I love this song, have you heard it? It's really surprising the first time you listen to it. Also, do you know what a 4/4 beat is? Calvin  &bull; Watch  n'  Learn 20:19, 25 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Just heard it on here, it really sounds like a Benny Benassi-Rihanna collab, lol. Could easily be a single. 4/4 is common time sig, isn't it? — WP: PENGUIN  · [ TALK ]  20:25, 25 November 2011 (UTC)

Lol. I don't know, I'll research it. Calvin  &bull; Watch n'  Learn 20:27, 25 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Calvin, this is the best song on TTT for me along with the title track! I love this album. San, nice job on the Thanksgiving special and Marry the Night! :P — <i style="color:blue;">Legolas</i> ( talk 2 me ) 03:30, 26 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I hope she will just release the MTN video already. Loved the days when her videos would always leak and she would rage on Twitter, lol. — WP: PENGUIN  · [ TALK ]  11:39, 26 November 2011 (UTC)
 * There is a time signature article on here and 4/4 is a time signature, you were right. And yes it is a really good song. Calvin  &bull; Watch  n'  Learn 12:08, 26 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I think the new Rihanna must just grow on me eventually... — WP: PENGUIN  · [ TALK ]  12:15, 26 November 2011 (UTC)
 * It the vocal performance on Where Have You Been that I like. Do you like Farewell and Fool In Love? Calvin  &bull; Watch  n'  Learn 12:51, 26 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Haven't heard "Farewell". "Fool In Love" sounds so depressing! — WP: PENGUIN  · [ TALK ]  13:00, 26 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Farewell is really nice. It's like Talk That Talk California King Bed. Fool In Love has the albums best vocals. Calvin  &bull; Watch  n'  Learn 13:04, 26 November 2011 (UTC)

Most Wanted
YAY! Thanks buddy! That went by pretty quickly! :) — Status  &#x7B;<sup style="margin-left:0.37ex;">talk <sub style="margin-left:-3ex;">contribs  19:08, 26 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Haha, yes it has. ;) Since you're online, I was wondering if you could possibly give me some suggestions for the lead of Jennifer Lopez filmography. I've been working on it for some time, plan on taking it to FL soon, but I can't seem to figure out how the lead should look. What do you think should be included on it? — Status  &#x7B;<sup style="margin-left:0.37ex;">talk <sub style="margin-left:-3ex;">contribs  19:13, 26 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks buddy. What do you think?: Jennifer Lopez filmography. It was easier than I thought, though, it did take a while to craft. — Status  &#x7B;<sup style="margin-left:0.37ex;">talk <sub style="margin-left:-3ex;">contribs  20:31, 26 November 2011 (UTC)

Vandal
Let the vandal be. I have already reported him. <b style="color:blue;">|</b> <sup style="color:black;">help <sub style="margin-left:-3.8ex; color:black;">dןǝɥ  <b style="color:blue;">|</b> 21:13, 26 November 2011 (UTC)
 * You requested a page protection. And I do not take a dumb sockpuppet of User:CharlieJS13 holding a grudge with me lightly. — WP: PENGUIN   · [ TALK ] — WP: PENGUIN   · [ TALK ]  21:17, 26 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I requested PP and a block. This edit war isn't accomplishing anything... Just wait for him to be blocked... Then we can sort everything out. <b style="color:blue;">|</b> <sup style="color:black;">help <sub style="margin-left:-3.8ex; color:black;">dןǝɥ  <b style="color:blue;">|</b> 21:19, 26 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I hope you (or anyone) never give up in front of CharlieAssHole. Never ever give that piece of shit the peace that you are leaving. Axel left for a different reason but I hope no-one ever does. I will see the end of that MF. — <i style="color:blue;">Legolas</i> ( talk 2 me ) 12:01, 27 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Then the day will come when JS will abuse proxies... no, Legolas, you won't see the end of him, he's got a whole team of talk page stalkers for defence. — WP: PENGUIN  · [ TALK ]  12:04, 27 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Dont give a shit, he already abuses proxies. The point is not to take that bastard seriously and laugh at its face. I deal with psychotic bastards pretty well. I have had many of them in Wiki. — <i style="color:blue;">Legolas</i> ( talk 2 me ) 12:08, 27 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Oh so true. I suppose you were on wikibreak when this happened. — WP: PENGUIN  · [ TALK ]  12:15, 27 November 2011 (UTC)

Peer review/Jennifer Lopez filmography/archive1
I'd appreciate it if you left some thoughts/suggestions. Cheers, — Status  &#x7B;<sup style="margin-left:0.37ex;">talk <sub style="margin-left:-3ex;">contribs  03:20, 28 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Response — Status  &#x7B;<sup style="margin-left:0.37ex;">talk <sub style="margin-left:-3ex;">contribs  20:03, 28 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Reception has been receptionified. — Status  &#x7B;<sup style="margin-left:0.37ex;">talk <sub style="margin-left:-3ex;">contribs  01:26, 30 November 2011 (UTC)

A cookie for you!

 * Aww, thank you so much! It's delicious. :) — WP: PENGUIN  · [ TALK ]  18:21, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

hey
I created a DYK for Cockiness (Love It), but am I supposed to add it to Template talk:Did you know ? Calvin  &bull; Watch n'  Learn 13:23, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes, transclude it in the appropriate header. — WP: PENGUIN  · [ TALK ]  18:22, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
 * How? Calvin  &bull; Watch  n'  Learn 19:06, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Place  under the date "Cockiness" was created. — WP: PENGUIN   · [ TALK ]  19:12, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I don't get what you mean by under where the date was created? Calvin  &bull; Watch  n'  Learn 19:23, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
 * The creation date is when the article was made or when the redirect was replaced with actual prose... — WP: PENGUIN  · [ TALK ]  19:30, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Yeah I released what you mean now, I've done it. I know what a creation date is, I just didn't understand where the code was mean't to go.. Calvin  &bull; Watch  n'  Learn 19:32, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Under the heading, Calvin, "Created/expanded on [date]". — WP: PENGUIN  · [ TALK ]  19:33, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes I have done it now. I just said this. Calvin  &bull; Watch  n'  Learn 19:35, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

A brownie for you!

 * Thanks man! I love brownies!!! This message made my day somewhat less crappy. :D — WP: PENGUIN  · [ TALK ]  22:28, 30 November 2011 (UTC)
 * LOOL, yess. I got it right on then. :L No problem. Aww, bad day? :( — Status  &#x7B;<sup style="margin-left:0.37ex;">talk <sub style="margin-left:-3ex;">contribs  22:31, 30 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Awful, to be frank. Nevermind that; let me know if you need any help. I am not very experienced with lists, but can be of any miscellaneous assistance. — WP: PENGUIN  · [ TALK ]  22:45, 30 November 2011 (UTC)
 * LOL, me either. Especially filmographies. I just tried my best. :L Don't worry; I will - I'll be the annoying person you wished you never said that to. (Well, not exactly, but you get me.) — Status  &#x7B;<sup style="margin-left:0.37ex;">talk <sub style="margin-left:-3ex;">contribs  23:36, 30 November 2011 (UTC)