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Ice hockey at the 2014 Winter Olympics
In response to your comments on my talk page, I had not actually looked at the Ice Hockey at the < > Winter Olympics pages, and so didn't see this consistency. However, I had looked at other articles for the 2014 Winter Olympics, such as curling, which follows a similar tournament style to ice hockey, but does not include the infobox. Scrolling slightly further down the page, to the Medalists section, a clear table can be seen detailing the winners. However, this could be too detailed, with many names per team, and the infobox does appear to fit with previous ice hockey olympic articles, so I am happy for you to reintroduce the infobox, if you wish. If you've got any more comments on this, please reply on my talk page, or if it is more appropriate, on the Ice hockey talk page. 97rob (talk) 16:59, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

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No need to be petulant. The date format was inconsistent with existing usage in the article, and there was no directive as to which format was preferred. My edit was no more "subjective" than the existing text, but was more accurate in describing what happened. — QuicksilverT @ 19:09, 30 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Sorry if you felt I was being petulant. I saw no other usage of the date format which you switched to, yet every other full date in the article used the format that you switched from. If you can point out any inconsistencies, that would definitely be helpful. As for subjectivity, the text already accurately described what happened. Given WP:SUBJECTIVE I saw no reason to reword it simply to include the word "abruptly". (How does a redirect begin not "abruptly" anyway?) If it's really that important to you, definitely feel free to bring it up on the talk page. --Wikisian (talk) 19:26, 30 May 2014 (UTC)

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Well, I'm glad you added sources, good for you.

As for edit warring, don't worry, I don't intent on going to any edit wars. I usually just revert someone once, and that's about it. If I disagree with something, I always go to the talk page and talk about it there. Oh and regarding my history. Yes, it is true that I went to many edit wars in 2007, but that was a long time ago and I assure you I'm nothing like I was back then right now. Blaze The Movie Fan (talk) 01:17, 30 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Well, I'm glad you believe you have grown up,, good for you. --Wikisian (talk) 01:22, 30 November 2015 (UTC)

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UFC 205
Hello. I supposed that you know how Wikipedia works, right? As I've seen lately, you have a tendency to try and keep articles 100% as they were after you made major edits. You can't accept changes and engages in back-and-forth reverts. Anyway, focusing on this event: only you show up adding rankings. Plenty of veteran MMA editors do not add them. They have no relevance to match-making or plenty of other functional stuff. They barely appear in medias just to "give some north" to casual fans. That being said, you have the right to propose such changes. BUT they must follow procedures, something you seem to avoid. WP:JDL fits exactly your behavior here. You "just don't like" the fact that we tell you to not add rankings and keeps getting them back. So gather a discussion (per the rules) so you can propose it. I can call the editors that have been on mma articles lately and we all discuss. I believe the outcome will be the same, but it's done by proper means and the discussion ends. Thanks. Gsfelipe94 (talk) 16:11, 18 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Reply when talked to here instead of bringing that conversation over to an article talk page. This one belongs here and there is the place for you to work by the rules - something you haven't done. You now bring "harassment" to the table? Where is your part of gathering a discussion because you're the only one proposing changes? You will only accept your version and that's it. You're not the first to add rankings (unregistered users and other registered have done it in the past) and I'm not the first/only one to revert those edits in the last months. Yet, you're the first acting as a victim. Stop that, it's lame. I don't care who you are and what you edit anywhere. I'm simply reverting that based on what I said, not your username. If somebody else did it, I would do the same thing. So you have no solid points other than "they are offered by the ufc and are relevant info, let's add rankings and if you don't agree, let's add them anyway". I wonder why always an editor shows up out of the blue, engages in big arguments (like this one) and they never - NEVER - do their part of gathering a discussion for proposed changes. Even if they were right or just partially right, they never do it properly. And then they vanish like nothing happened. You're following the same steps. So please, stop the drama of pasting one-on-one conversation there and gather a discussion with proper arguments. Keep our conversation here as I won't fill a talk page with our specific discussion not-100% directly related to that issue. If anybody want to see it, this page is public anyway. Gsfelipe94 (talk) 21:04, 18 November 2016 (UTC)


 * Gsfelipe94 again you're making false accusations. I am demonstrably not the only one "prospering" changes. And as I said before, it is demonstrably false that I will accept "only my version and that's it." And it's ironic that you would openly admit that I am not the only one to add rankings, as just a moment ago you claimed "only you show up adding rankings". So which is it? Those two statements are in direct contradiction. Further you claim I am acting as a victim. When a person continuously reverts edits that have absolutely nothing to do with the point in question (in this case rankings), and yet cites rankings as a reason for reverting every single edit by a particular editor (whether those edits had to do with rankings or not), yes, I don't see how that would not be considered harassment. You are directly targeting my specific edits (all of them, not just rankings), and reverting them with no reasoning (or pretending that you are only reverting rankings). Either you are being totally negligent and reckless in your editing, or you are engaging in classic harassment.


 * As far as "gathering a discussion on proposed changes", that is not how Wikipedia works. Anyone can edit pages for a reason. If there was a discussion needed for any change on an article, then only specific users would be able to edit articles (and the encyclopedia would virtually never go live.) Again, you type plenty of text, but nowhere have you offered a valid reasoning as to why such information should not be included. Everything you have offered is nothing more than assertions, accusations about me personally (which are demonstrably false), and now stories about other users. As I said before, the closest thing you have offered that might even resemble a reasoning for excluding such info is "it hasn't been included before" and/or "I just don't like it." Those are not reasons to exclude information from Wikipedia. One more time, either provide a valid reasoning, or stop deleting verifiable, and relevant information. And definitely stop reverting my edits that have nothing to do with rankings, as again, this is either negligent/reckless, or intentional harassment. --Wikisian (talk) 21:22, 18 November 2016 (UTC)
 * I said you're not the first to add them. You're the only one in this case right now. Pay proper attention to what is written. If it happened one year ago it still has nothing to do with the fact that you're the only one at the moment doing it, so there's no contraction there. Stop creating scenarios that don't exist, like your "harassment" card. I won't waste any other time here. As I mentioned previously, you're showing up out of nowhere, only caring about keeping your edits and not engaging in discussions about it. You're the first though to add the victim role to it, but it's ok. I'll do your job here and call some people for discussion. Btw, is that harassment as well? Should I be worried then? Gsfelipe94 (talk) 21:29, 18 November 2016 (UTC)


 * Gsfelipe94 Even if you meant that I am the only one to do it here, that is also demonstrably false (again, anyone can view the history). So you can take your pick of which false statement you actually made. As for harassment, again, constantly reverting every edit someone makes on any article and then only citing an issue with one specific edit is either harassment or negligence and recklessness. Again, take your pick. As for calling other editors for a discussion on the matter, "harassment" would depend on how they behave. However, you would be advised to be careful there as well, as it would not seem out of the question for you to now engage in WP:CANVASS. I'm sure you'll contact editors who have added rankings in the past, and ask them to come weigh in on the matter as well, yes? --Wikisian (talk) 21:51, 18 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Then it's a matter of me not noticing/remembering that. Still, that does not mean I would waste my time coming here to harass someone that goes by "Wikisian" and I have no clue who that person is. And stop sitting on your chair and waiting for things to be done. You should help the discussion as I'm not the only one responsible here. I'm bringing editors that constantly update. I can't bring IPs here that have made one-and-done edits or users that I can't find in history of pages. I had arguments with several of those users in the past, so that can't be canvassing. I'm not responsible for their opinions and if they don't agree with you (or if they do) it's not my problem. Check their talk pages, I simply added a talkback to this page. Gsfelipe94 (talk) 22:01, 18 November 2016 (UTC)

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 * As you pointed it out, yes—overlinking applies to major cities like London, so I've unlinked that too. However, we generally always link to names (so that applies to One Direction), and we always link genres in the infobox (it's what is done in Template:Infobox song).  Ss  112   22:27, 11 January 2018 (UTC)

Wikifying a term that may not be recognized as an actual thing is not "unconstructive." I am familiar with WP:OVERLINK, and nowhere does it suggest that such a link qualifies. "Everyday words understood by most readers in context" are things like all the words being used here..."readers," "words," "thing," etc.

"Boy band" is a term made up of common words, but is a concept all of its own (with its own article) which is an example of "Relevant connections to the subject of another article that will help readers understand the article more fully." Just because you personally think "we all know what it is" does not mean it is an overlink. And the genres are hyperlinked in the body of the article. Again, you have a lot of work ahead of you if you believe this is the criteria for overlink. Do we all not know what a "lyric video" is? How about "digital download?" How about "contemporary hit radio"? Are "Capitol Records" and "One Direction" really not "the names of subjects with which most readers will be at least somewhat familiar?" It's ironic that you would suggest reading WP:OVERLINK, as you might need to get familiar with it yourself. --Wikisian (talk) 20:39, 12 January 2018 (UTC)
 * I suggest you get familiar with what should be or what is ordinarily linked on music articles, because I am. You don't appear to be. It has nothing to do with what I personally know; I believe I was speaking generally. Just because articles exist on Wikipedia does not mean we need to always link to them. Also, stop acting as if I wrote the entire article or am the gatekeeper of it. I didn't, and I'm not. I just disagreed with additional links explaining commonly understood terms. Genres, names, formats and labels are linked. I don't make the guidelines. End of story.  Ss  112   20:42, 12 January 2018 (UTC)


 * I am familiar with what is linked. "Should" is apparently your opinion, which as I demonstrated doesn't seem to jibe with the guideline. Again, you reference WP:OVERLINK, but it doesn't seem you have really read it. I provided several examples and quoted the guideline directly. As I said, you have a lot of work ahead of you if you think the criteria for wikify is "I think we all know what this is." That being said, it's ironic that you would deny "gatekeeper" status, given that's precisely what you appear to want to be on a whole host of articles. --Wikisian (talk) 20:55, 12 January 2018 (UTC)
 * No, I meant "Genres, names, formats and labels are linked on music articles". As in, common practice. There's no "should" about that. I'm sorry that it appears that I act like a "gatekeeper" to you because you didn't get your way—just because some editors spend more time here and have made more than 500 edits since 2014 doesn't mean they think they're gatekeepers. Also, anybody can quote a guideline. Quoting something doesn't mean one understands it. I've read WP:OVERLINK plenty of times, and it is precisely about "we all know what this is so it doesn't need to be linked, because a sea of blue links doesn't help anybody or readers ascertain what is important" (that obviously is not a quote, it's a paraphrase). But sure, you can keep nitpicking/disagreeing if you wish.  Ss  112   20:59, 12 January 2018 (UTC)


 * I guess that's too bad that you don't say what you mean then. As for your gatekeeper sensitivity, it's not about edit count, it's about behavior and MO. That being said, I'm not sure why everything seems to come down to edit count with you or why you think mentioning it all the time is relevant. Although, it's quickly become obvious why the count is so high, given that it takes you 3–4 edits to make a single post. In any case, happy trails to you in your crusade. --Wikisian (talk) 21:41, 12 January 2018 (UTC)
 * I did say what I mean, I just didn't think I had to be overly specific for you. Probably should be next time. Also, not everything does come down to edit count—pointing out you've made few edits since 2014 wasn't about your edit count. I brought it up in the first place because you evidently looked at my contributions, so I looked at yours and pointed something out—in my experience, lack of edits often correlates with lack of awareness of policies and guidelines. Also, do you think because you evidently saw I mentioned it earlier to another editor (who seemed to miss that trolls don't generally make any edits on WP or hang around for long) that that equates to bringing it up "all the time"? If you're going to look at my contributions, please look more closely. Also yes, that's absolutely why. I've been exposed. My edit count is so high because I edit my talk page messages a few times. Got me.  Ss  112   21:48, 12 January 2018 (UTC)


 * "we always link genres in the infobox" [...] "No, I meant 'Genres, names, formats and labels are linked on music articles'" [...] "I did say what I mean..."


 * Got it. As for your history, in the first post you made here, you issued a threat that I would "be reported" and added, "It appears this would not be your first time." In my experience, projection can be quite common here, and given that I have never been reported for anything, it made me curious if this were an example of it. I didn't care enough to do the digging to find out definitively if that were the case, but even a quick glance of your history offered enough of an MO. At least you're sticking to it. Got your minimum 3 edits in as well. I assume you'd like to continue? --Wikisian (talk) 22:11, 12 January 2018 (UTC)
 * The second quote has nothing to do with correcting the first. With the second quote, I was adding to "Genres, names, formats and labels are linked. I don't make the guidelines." You can't catch me out here, because I'm not contradicting myself. Both the first and second are still true and not contradicting each other anyway. Are you going to keep bringing up ridiculous things? Now I'm "projecting" onto you? Where are you getting all of this from? Could you honestly have any more of a meltdown because you got reverted on an article? Stop adding unnecessary links and there won't be a problem. You really keep wanting to dig back into uncivil territory here, and you should stop, because it could get you reported, whether by me or not. I don't care whether it'll be your first time.  Ss  112   22:29, 12 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Meltdown? Uncivil? This is what I mean by projection, as there's nothing uncivil our meltdownish about anything I've said. You have come to my talk page to make these accusations and threats, I have simply responded to them and even offered clarification (quite civilly, I would say.) It is you who keeps coming back to my page to make edit after edit (even for the same post). If this is all such a big deal to you, and if you seriously have so much of a problem with me or think that I should be reported for something, by all means do it. I'm not sure why you keep coming here. Do I have to tell you to stop? Stop. --Wikisian (talk) 23:12, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

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 * You seem to have created both redirects Off the Dock and Off the Dock months ago, so therefore, what is the point of correcting all (or even some) instances of the lower-case redirect? Your creation of the redirect would seem to acknowledge its validity. Search results can't be a reason you made the lower-case "t" space, because users can type using whatever capitalisation they like in the search box and the article will show up. This page is not exempt nor is it a special case. Users always try to claim things they're arguing over are "special" cases. Even if nearly all sources decided to capitalise the t in "the", we still have our own style and preference on Wikipedia to not capitalise "the" in basically every instance, unless it's at the beginning of a title or name. Ask any editor who knows our MOS—they will tell you this.  Ss  112   09:10, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Oh, and you also don't seem to get WP:BRD works at all. The one seeking the change brings it up on the talk page—that's you. I have reverted you twice so far, so your claim of three reverts is incorrect (me piping a link is not a revert; also, going over three reverts is when it breaks our policy regarding this). I warned you against further reverting as you are the one seeking the change: you made the initial change by changing the "T", then were reverted, and began an edit war by reverting me back. As you seem to think our standard capitalisation rules should be disregarded, you need to explain on the talk page why you think this is such a special case (note: it isn't. Even proper names don't have "t" in "the" in their titles capitalised, or similar words: see Through a Glass Productions for a similar example). I won't be responding here; either take it up at the article talk page or leave it.  Ss  112   09:28, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
 * You were the one who made a change to the page and got reverted. Again, you are projecting. You claim I don't get how WP:BRD works, when it literally says "If your edit gets reverted, do not revert again." This is exactly what you did. And you did not engage in any discussion of your change, you came to my talk page to accuse me of edit warring. All I did was revert your change, per WP:BRD. Then instead of discussing, you immediately made your change again, citing WP:NCCAPS, to which I pointed out that guideline literally says "exceptions may apply" and explicitly states "proper names" as an exception. The literal name of the company is with a capital "The." Your reasoning then became "Doesn't matter, you were reverted," which is not a valid reasoning. The fact that you simply performed a change without discussing it is not a reason to keep it. The existence of other pages with miscapitalized proper names is also not a valid reasoning. Once again, the proper name is Off The Dock. The guideline page which you cited clearly states proper names are an exception. If you have some special reason as to why a proper name should be presented in some other way than what the proper name actually is, it is on you to offer that reasoning. And you should probably follow WP:BRD yourself before telling other people they don't understand it. --Wikisian (talk) 00:47, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Wheeling out this "projecting" crap again...This is Wikipedia, not Psychology 101. Nobody cares. You just don't get how ordinary capitals work in titles and names of companies on Wikipedia. I implore you, go ask an editor who actually contributed to our MoS, like Koavf (who I asked to explain to you but who appears to be busy with other things), who I'm sure will tell you this is not an exception to the standard. Or basically any other editor more experienced than yourself. I'm done here. Later.  Ss  112   01:08, 1 June 2018 (UTC)

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