User talk:Wikiuser1013

How do you fix a mistake in an article about you?
A page was recently created about me but it has some erroneous information. I attempted to correct it as a normal editor but some of my changes were undone, and I was told that if I have a COI I should not be editing the page. What is the proper process for correcting a factual error made about my own work? And how can I indicate that I am the subject of the page so that I am not accused of having a COI, and so that my change is not undone? I am happy to footnote my new information to my personal website, where a correct version of the information in question appears. Thanks so much to the Wiki community for your assistance. Wikiuser1013 (talk) 15:18, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Please see WP:PSCOI for a straight-forward description of our COI policies, which basically boil down to "make a suggestion on the talk page as to what is wrong, and ask someone to double-check before fixing it". If you want more help, change the help me-helped back into a help me, stop by the Teahouse, or Wikipedia's live help channel, or the help desk to ask someone for assistance. Primefac (talk) 15:54, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Let me respond to your questions/comments one at a time:
 * "What is the proper process for correcting a factual error made about my own work?"
 * The proper process is to visit the talk page of the article in question and use the edit request process. Copy and paste the following, curly brackets and all: . After that use a "change X to Y because Z" format, and cite published sources that were created independently of you, that support the change.
 * "And how can I indicate that I am the subject of the page..."
 * You can indicate that you are the subject of the page by using a Connected Contributor template. Copy and paste onto your user page.
 * "so that I am not accused of having a COI"
 * You do have a Conflict Of Interest. Everyone has a COI regarding themselves, that's what a COI is. Wikipedia wants neutral information. You naturally want information that depicts you in a favorable light. That is a conflict of interest.
 * "and so that my change is not undone?"
 * Again, you should not directly edit the article about yourself. You should use the edit request process (described above) which has been put in place for editors such as yourself.
 * "I am happy to footnote my new information to my personal website"
 * Unfortunately, your personal website is not independant of you. So it will not be an acceptable source for some things - although per the self published sources section of the Verifiability policy, a self published source (like your personal website) is ok for limited uses. Read that section carefully.
 * I hope that helps! I'll keep an eye on this page in case you have any more questions. ~  ONUnicorn (Talk&#124;Contribs) problem solving 16:13, 1 April 2022 (UTC)

Confusion
Wikiuser1013, I am the one who created the page, and it is somewhat disappointing to see no ounce of gratitude for something that took quite a bit of work. Though I have no way to confirm that you are indeed Mr. Eichler, many of your objections just don't make sense. For example, you removed "Growing up in Newton, Massachusetts, he played violin and viola in his youth, playing the latter in youth orchestras."—but this is literally what The Harvard Gazette says? Likewise you removed a quote from Grove music, describing you/Eichler as someone who "draws attention to local performers and the city’s conservatory students alongside more established musicians"—how is that objectionable?–it's another scholar's analysis of Eichler/your criticism... Aza24 (talk) 06:41, 4 April 2022 (UTC)


 * Aza24, First off, my apologies - I am new to the Wikipedia community and am just learning how things work. Many sincere thanks for all of your work creating the page. I can only imagine how much effort is involved. And after the helpful responses to my initial query above, I now understand the proper process for requesting edits - and will do so in the future. There is nothing incorrect in the sentences you mention.
 * The main thing I had hoped to correct is this: the article currently states that the doctoral dissertation is the basis of the forthcoming book - but that is not the case. I understand how this confusion arose. The Harvard Gazette article cited on the page indeed mentions my original plan to write a book based on the dissertation as the first of two book projects. But in the end, I decided not to write that book. The publication that is forthcoming is the *second* of the two projects mentioned in the Gazette article. It is a newly written book on the broader subject of the musical memory of the Second World War and the Holocaust. The new book does include a discussion of Schoenberg's "A Survivor from Warsaw" - the subject of the dissertation - but as one part of a much bigger story about musical memorialization. (The new book is actually framed around musical memorials by Strauss, Britten and Shostakovich in addition to the memorial by Schoenberg.) The description here is an accurate description of the forthcoming book. That was the main confusion I had hoped to fix on the page, and it arose only because the Gazette article in this respect was outdated. My sincere thanks again for your all of your work on the entry. Wikiuser1013 (talk) 04:25, 5 April 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi, thank you for your kind response Wikiuser1013/Mr. Eichler. I wrote the article on yourself because I enjoy your music criticism, so I must applaud your work there. I believe the issue is corrected, does it make sense now? Do let me know if you see any other issues. Best – Aza24 (talk) 05:06, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Aza24, Thanks so much for fixing that issue - it's much more accurate now. And thanks so much as well for your kind words about my music criticism. I really appreciate it.
 * You had asked if I see any other issues. There are actually just a couple of small things that I wondered if you might consider tweaking.
 * - The first is about this sentence in the opening paragraph: "He was educated at Columbia University, where he wrote his 2015 doctoral dissertation on Schoenberg's A Survivor from Warsaw."  Because I work as a public-facing writer (not as a history professor), the doctoral dissertation feels like a relevant part of my "life and career"  but not necessarily worthy of mentioning in that short opening summary paragraph. And actually, both the dissertation and my training at Columbia are already mentioned in the "Life and Career" section. So I wondered whether you might consider just deleting that "He was educated..." sentence from the opening paragraph, which would also avoid the repetition.
 * - Also in the first paragraph, there is a sentence: <> Since the page provides very nice details further down about both the individual composers covered in the book and their respective works, I thought it might be worth considering (again to avoid repetition) deleting this mention of the specific composers in this opening paragraph. So instead that line might simply read, "His forthcoming book, Time's Echo, explores music and the cultural memory of the Second World War."  That seems the most succinct to me, but if you see things differently and feel it's important to list the specific composers in the opening paragraph, it would then be more accurate to add "and others" at the end of the current list - since works by Schoenberg and others are also discussed in the book (in addition to those by Strauss, Britten and Shostakovich).
 * - Lastly, in the first paragraph of the life and career section, there is a sentence: "He subsequently relocated to New York and received master's degree in history from Columbia University" -- and in the third paragraph of that section it says <> Sorry again for the confusion. Just to clarify, when living in New York I enrolled in the doctoral program in history (I was never a terminal Masters student) - and I was affiliated with Columbia straight through the completion of the dissertation (I never 'went back' to Columbia). It seems the simplest solution would be to just say something like: "He subsequently relocated to New York, where he earned a doctorate in history from Columbia University."
 * Thank you so much for considering these last tweaks. By the way, I now have a whole new appreciation for the level of detailed work that goes into creating one of these pages, and I thank you again for all of your efforts! Best, Wikiuser1013 (talk) 21:28, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Sorry for my late responses, I got distracted by a few other things irl and on WP. I believe I've addressed your three points—incidentally, the first two I was actually unsure about when I initially included that information in the lead, so have no issue taking it out. Please take care and listen to much Radu Lupu and Harrison Birtwistle this week! :) – Aza24 (talk) 07:52, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Looks great, thank you very much Aza24. Radu Lupu's celestial Brahms has indeed been on repeat.... Be well, Wikiuser1013 (talk) 03:13, 21 April 2022 (UTC)