User talk:Wikmontmartre18

Chère Salix
Désolée, je n'ai pas réussi à vous laisser un message au café des peintres et café des biologistes.

Comme je suis entrain de compléter la bibliographie/publications d'un article que j'ai longuement analysé, j'ai vu qu'il y avait différentes façons de présenter les publications et la question ne semble pas tranchée. Que me conseillez-vous? Comment préciser le lieu d'édition quand il ne s'agit pas d'une ville connue? faut-il la mettre entre parenthèses ? exemple Belém (Brésil).

Extrait de la discussion - Café des biologistes

< bibliographiques[modifier]>

</Après avoir patiemment attendu plus de six ans une évolution des conventions bibliographiques de la wikipédia francophone sur un point bien précis, je désire m'attaquer sérieusement à cette citadelle imprenable. On me conseille, en haut lieu, d'aborder cette question par un sondage. Avant d'attaquer cette phase, j'aimerai présenter ici les éléments de base de cette question afin de recueillir quelques réactions. Nos conventions bibliographiques nous recommandent de placer le lieu d'édition après le nom de l'éditeur. Faute! De la Sorbonne à Cambridge en passant par Harvard, de l'AFNOR à l'ISO en passant par l'ISBD, tout le monde respecte cet ordre : "lieu d'édition, éditeur". Toutes les autres versions de Wikipédia respectent également cet ordre, qui est immuable depuis cinq siècles. La manipe d'inversion du modèle "ouvrage" doit prendre trois secondes à effectuer. Clio64 (d) 21 février 2011 à 09:10>

Votre intérêt pour la peinture inclut-il les planches botaniques? Fuchs? Bien amicalement --Wikmontmartre18 (talk) 23:43, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

Adoption
How to contact my adopter and see his messages? Thank you very much Wikmontmartre18 (talk) 18:13, 13 March 2011 (UTC)

Cheers,  Sloggerbum  ( talk ) 18:32, 23 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Hi Wikmont, good to hear from you! I'm new to the adoption thing, but as far I can tell, it just involves answering any questions, helping out, and being available for anything you might need? I, as well, am especially interested in the Amazon, and so we definitely have some interests in common. (As a kid, I painted my room to look like a tropical jungle, complete with anatomically correct animals. Nerd, or awesome? I say awesome). Are there any particular projects you're looking for guidance on right now, or just a wiki-friend in general? Also, it's fantastic you're multi-lingual (I'm not) - the vast majority of Wikipedia articles are in desperate need of translation.
 * Also, good work expanding the research sections on the Mario Christian Meyer page. May I recommend using this format for publication lists you add in the future? (click edit on this page to see the code).


 * etc.
 * etc.
 * etc.


 * More options can be found here: Template:Cite_journal/doc Cheers,  Sloggerbum  ( talk ) 19:06, 23 April 2011 (UTC)


 * Hi Wikmont, responded to ya on my talkpage  Sloggerbum  ( talk ) 20:13, 26 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Heya Wikmont; right on with the templates, overall looks good. I've personally noticed that if spacing isn't proper for templates like that, it can act kind of bitchy - maybe what you're doing is hitting return in the wrong spots? If the template is like the one I sent above, (where there's a "|" at the start of each new line) you have to be careful that there isn't a space between the start of the line and the bar; they all have to line up. And if it's the format where they all kind of run together, to save space, the spacing should be homogenous. Other quick heads up; I went ahead and slightly reorganized one of the sections, mainly put it in chronological order. The section ahead of it still needs to be organized chronologically, and I'd recommend putting little titles (you can see how to in the section I tweaked) so it doesn't seem so much a "wall of text". It makes it easier for the eye to scan. Also, avoid using all CAPS - don't really see all caps in Wikipedia, period. Also, if the publication has a Wikipedia page, I'd recommend you make it an internal link (adding two [ at the front and two ] at the back), which also helps break up the wall of text. Any more questions, or if that only helped so much, lemme know. Cheers,  Sloggerbum  ( talk ) 21:46, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Hi Wikmont, just wanted to know how your edits are going. If you like working in a draft space and want me to take a look at any point, please don't hesitate to send me the link. Cheers,  Sloggerbum  ( talk ) 02:02, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Please, bother me as much as you'd like, for even simple questions! That's what I'm here for. What are the problems that are getting to you? It's fantastic you're fleshing out the section as much as you are, he seems like an important scientist.  Sloggerbum  ( talk ) 22:09, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
 * I have claimed you as my own on your user page :D Of course feel free to remove the userbox is it goes against your sensibilities. Also, the little blue box at the top of your page is an experiment of mine to see if we can keep our conversation more easily on one page; let me know if you'd prefer to talk here instead of my own, and you can leave the little blue box. Hm.  Sloggerbum  ( talk ) 02:06, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

HI SLOGGERBUM,

The userbox you have created is very helpful and perfect and now I use to look at it. I worked hours and hours on the scientific publications and I am afraid the results are not very good. So, to go ahead with the general publications, I need your help as I am still fighting with the Wiki guidelines. So the main problems I meet : I am aware I have many questions for you and I am sure with your help I will make progress. Many thanks. Wikmontmartre18 (talk) 07:52, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
 * the difference between a text in italic and a quote for title and trans title: e.g. "title (regular cap), [trans title in italIc.].
 * very often the coma comes before the bracket and not after
 * the difference between page and pages (p.versus pp.)
 * sometimes my text does not appear in the final preview. Is it a problem of text location but I respect the template you sent me.
 * very often, I am obliged to introduce inside another field in order it appears after validation.

Going over templates
Mario Christian Meyer VIDEO: Try shortening the titles, right now they are overwhelmingly long, which may make other users prone to deleting them

JOURNAL FORMATS "the difference between a text in italic and a quote for title and trans title: e.g. "title (regular cap), [trans title in italIc.]. very often the coma comes before the bracket and not after the difference between page and pages (p.versus pp.) sometimes my text does not appear in the final preview. Is it a problem of text location but I respect the template you sent me. very often, I am obliged to introduce inside another field in order it appears after validation."


 * First, it's good you are translating the titles to english, I was going to mention that might be a good idea and hadnt gotten around to it. Before I look at the questions, some things to know about templates: they don't always work if you mix and match lines, so if you would like to be working on an expanded version of the one I sent you, you should go to the reference template pages, pick the one you like, and copy and paste a version that only removes the lines you don't need, and doesn't add in any extra ones from other templates. Otherwise the added lines will probably end up being invisible. From there, once you have your favorite template with everything you personally need, it's a lot easier. Typically a good template will make it so you don't need to add in any italics or quotes or commas (it will automatically do it in the right places for you) but I suppose not all templates are perfect.

Also, typically for journals and books, the only "formatting" you need to add to the text (again, it should be all automized) is internal links. This isn't true for authors, though; typically for authors, because the last name and first name are separated, if you want that name to link, you simply put the name of the author's wikipedia page, unformatted, in the "authorlink" section. Here's a simple example. I noticed your book template doesn't have one, but an internal link to the author is unnecessary in this case (hell, the reader is already ON that author page) so no biggie.

When adding an internal link to the publisher, you actually need to format the text to go to the Wikipedia page. You've done that fine: in the first example below, that's exactly what you did with UNESCO. But other than that, again, make it so the template does all the work for you!

example fixes

 * BEFORE
 * 1990's
 * 2000's
 * 1990's
 * 2000's
 * 1990's
 * 2000's
 * 2000's
 * 2000's
 * 2000's
 * 2000's

NOTE: perfect, except I removed unnecessary italics on trans. title, the template should do it automatically
 * AFTER

NOTE: removed empty sections, also removed period for trans. title section: book and articles titles shouldn't require a period, removed comma after 1984: note that when you add italics in a section that is automatically italicized for you (the 'journal' line), you are removing the italics.

NOTE; perfect, I assume the "social Psychiatry" part is a part of the title, and not the journal?

NOTE: perfect, except I removed comma after journal line, should do that automatically

NOTE: perfect, but I again removed unnecessary italics from trans title: template does it automatically

NOTE: cool template! looks fine, added inline link to paris; otherwise I'm entirely unfamiliar with conference templates
 * 1990's

NOTE: again, looks fine, I left italics in conference section as you have them

NOTE: removed title italics, otherwise good

NOTE: removed trans. title italics, removed comma after ecofenix
 * 2000's

NOTE: removed part in chapter that said "by M. C. Meyer", that is already assumed. removed unnecessary titles, removed period after year, simplified trans. title (repetitive info), removed chapter quotes

NOTE: removed italics on trans. title, added link to location, added inline link to the school and removed line about it being best business school in latin America; people will see that now when they click on the link

signing
Oops, forgot to sign my name by typing four "tildes" at the end (four of the ~ symbol in a row). Happy to help, let me know if you have more questions. Cheers,  Sloggerbum  ( talk ) 02:04, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

Dear Sloggerbum, many thanks for your efficient help! I wrote a new article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julian_de_Ajuriaguerra Could you be kind enough to see why Wikipedia (a robot?) did not take into account or delete may last modifications from last night? Could you tell me what to do in order to avoid the “This page is a new unreviewed article” and “This is a draft used for proposing changes to the article on French Physician.” Cheers--Wikmontmartre18 (talk) 18:28, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Hi Wikmont, sure, I'll get on that! Also, I'll admit I'm very bad about checking up on other people's pages, so if you have a note for me, if you could still write a quick note on my talk page as well, the helpful yellow box will let me know to come here and check for notes. Also, I've adopted another young editor by the name of User:TetraEleven, and I hope you don't mind that I mentioned you were fluent in French to him. I noticed his favorite topics seem to revolve around french electronic music, and at some point figure he might benefit from translating french references. I'll get back to you on the entry soon.  Sloggerbum  ( talk ) 21:53, 29 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Hi Wikmont; in the future, a good strategy to avoid having bots touch your page at all is to first work on the entry in a private draft space. You can do that by making the page not at the actual subject's name, but at User:Wikmontmartre18/DRAFTTITLE . Then when you feel the page is complete, there is a simple move function you click that will move it to the proper place. Fortunately the page you are working on already looks quite good, so I doubt it will be at any risk of deletion! May I recommend adding categories at the bottom and an infobox? Also, good job adding the link to Mario Christian Meyer, now his page no longer has to be an orphan. I would recommend you promptly go to the Mario Christian Meyer page and delete the orphan tag at the top, and in your description say something along the lines of "removed orphan tag, page is now mentioned on entry for Julian de Ajuriaguerra". If you'd like infobox examples, feel free to look here: Template:Infobox_scientist. For an infobox, I'm in the personal habit of putting the text Replace this image male.svg in the photo line. But it's up to you; other editors believe it should be phased out. Here's an example of what that photo in an infobox looks like. Helen_Jane_Long (the female version).  Sloggerbum  ( talk ) 22:03, 29 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Hi Wikmont; actually, while the infobox for Mario Christian Meyers could use some expansion, I was referring to an infobox for the Julian de Ajuriaguerra page; the "Replace this image male.svg" would simply serve as a stand-in photo because Julian's page doesn't have a photo yet. Basically it would be a temporary photo until a better one can be found. Also, the infobox is not meant to be used on the photo page, but on the main page for the person themselves, right at the top above any of the text. Also, I didn't realize they request that there be three links before removing an orphan tag, so waiting until you add it to the Paris Society of Medicine page is probably a good idea. Does that help? Best,  Sloggerbum  ( talk ) 20:56, 5 June 2011 (UTC)

Video
Hi Wikmont, it's sunny in Seattle too, which is nice! Usually rains all day. Here's your quote about video "Martin H wrote me there were problems of licensing. So, what can I do ? : write to the TV Producers to obtain the broadcasting authorizations? And when obtained, how to transmit it to Wikipedia?" My guess is your book didn't include any info on video because frankly, Video on Wikipedia is a very new development. Very few entries have video; hell, very few entries even have audio or photos. Like photos, the easiest video to upload are when the uploader himself or herself owns the copyright (example: someone uploads their video of a Kangaroo at a zoo jumping, for the Kangaroo article. Uploading a video of a Kangaroo jumping from a nature documentary on television is much, much harder, because the copyright is owned by an actual institution, and they have to legally allow Wikipedia to use it). If you can get in touch with the owners of the copyrighted video, they will probably have to follow similar steps as with photos; as in forward a release letter to Wikimedia, which will be saved in the Wikimedia database as proof that the video can be used....ok, to be honest, I'm completely clueless when it comes to video on Wikipedia. Your best chance at an answer is probably here: Media_copyright_questions. If you can get in touch with the copyright holders, that is probably also an important step; from there, I'm sure we can figure out some sort of release form they could use, if they want to release the copyright. Cheers,  Sloggerbum  ( talk ) 06:42, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

New Questions
Hi Wikmont, you are not boring at all, how can I help? Cheers,  Sloggerbum  ( talk ) 21:52, 17 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Your questions:Hi Sloggerbum, Very pleased to hear you again. I sent you two messages but you don't see them. I tried to create chapters in our correspondence but it was not a good idea. This a copy of my questions : Hi Sloggerbum, I filled up the template infobox you recommended, with Meyer's data, but I don't know where to add it - by copy/paste - as there is no "edit" link below the photo. What does it mean "I'm in the personal habit of putting the text Replace this image male.svg in the photo line." Replacing the image, the photo will not disappear? Many thanks --Wikmontmartre18 (talk) 18:16, 5 June 2011 (UTC) Hi Sloggerbum, I tried to delete the Orphan Tag using the following template : [edit]Step 4: Remove the orphan template Once the article has three or more links that fit the criteria, remove the tag, if one is present. You may use this edit summary: Successfully de-orphaned! Wikiproject Orphanage: You can help! Should I write this formula in the Meyer's page? I am working on English page "Paris Society of Medicine" and will add a third wiki link. Many thanks and cheers.--Wikmontmartre18 (talk) 17:59, 5 June 2011 (UTC)

Many thanks again
 * Answers: Hi Wikmont: infoboxes are not for photographs, they go at the top of entry pages for biographies. Also, Mario Christian Meyer already has an infobox (it's the code at the very top of the page), which I expanded yesterday. However, it is not complete; maybe the infobox you were working on could be used to expand some of the spaces? Also, the Julian de Ajuriaguerra still needs an infobox. Since there is no picture for Mr. Ajuriaguerra, the "Replace this image male.svg" could be used as a temporary photo in the infobox until a real photo photo is uploaded. Here is one possible infobox you could use Template:Infobox_academic. Does that help? Cheers,  Sloggerbum  ( talk ) 23:03, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Hi Wikmont, are you not receiving my messages? Would you like me to respond on your page or my own? Cheers, and yes, all is going quite well in Seattle,  Sloggerbum  ( talk ) 06:35, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

Sorry for delay
I guess I didn't log on for awhile, I'll go check out your new addition! Back in bit,  Sloggerbum  ( talk ) 06:37, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Hi Wikmont, your new addition for Paris Society of Medicine looks great, awesome job! I reorganized it so that the history section is on top (the history section typically goes first). I also added a college infobox, though you might want to fill in some of the categories further. I was slightly confused by one thing; is it a college with a set physical location, or just a loose society of individuals? You might want to clarify if it is one or the other. Cheers,  Sloggerbum  ( talk ) 07:11, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

Barnstars

 * And there's no possible way I can give you the above barnstar and not the following as well, so I think a double whammy is well in order.

A barnstar for you!
thank you :D I moved it my page! Great job removing the orphan tag. It's ok if you don't include the description, your edit will still be valid. For future reference, when you are creating an edit and are about to click save, right above the "save page" button, there's a little box you can check that says "This is a minor edit". If you feel your edit was "minor" (perhaps just a typo fix) then you click the box. Then, when your edit shows up in the history log, a little bold "m" will show up that lets other editors know it wasn't a big change. Right above the little box, there's a line where you can type text, and above that it says "Edit Summary (briefly describe the changes you have made) ". In the line of text, if you like, you can type a quick description of the sort of edits you just made. (For example, that's where you would have typed the orphan box description when you removed the orphan tag). Your description will show up on the list of edits in the history log. Writing a description is not required, but it can be very helpful for other editors. Cheers!  Sloggerbum  ( talk ) 20:06, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

Videos
Hi Wikmont, thx for the info. Since Wikipedia is so strict about ensuring copyright release for videos, I'd recommend you actually upload them to Youtube or another video hosting service. Those sites only remove videos for copyright violations if the copyright holders specifically ask for them to be taken down, so it's a lot more lax. Than you can simply link the video URLs to the Wikipedia entry, and no paperwork is required!  Sloggerbum  ( talk ) 19:28, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

Survey
Hi Wikmont, I don't think I have a magic wand in this case :D I've noticed the surveys are programmed to randomly appear on different pages, but after a day or a few days or so, they disappear! They are like mushrooms. I expect that the survey will go away after awhile. There is no code for them to go away, though. Cheers,  Sloggerbum  ( talk ) 19:03, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

Redirect
Hi Wikmont, good to hear from you! It looks like User:Crusio (his talk page here) is the person who moved the page from Paris Society of Medicine to Société de Médecine de Paris. I assume that he did so because the page's first words are The "Société de Médecine de Paris (English: Paris Society of Medicine)", and the official title of a page is supposed match the first name of the page in the text. Perhaps you should change the first sentence and the infobox to "Paris Society of Medicine (French: Société de Médecine de Paris)". I would recommend that you try to make friends with Crusio, he claims to be a research director at the Centre National de la Recherche Scientifique and might be useful to know! If you make the change and explain why you did so on Crusio's talk page, he may agree with the edit and can move the back to Paris Society of Medicine. You may also explain that this is so it shows up in the English google, and is therefore easier for English readers to find (this would make sense, as a French version with the French title should be available on the French Wikipedia). At the very least, Crusio may be able to explain to you why he made the change. Let me know if there are any hitches! Best,  Sloggerbum  ( talk ) 06:56, 28 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Forgot to mention, I do believe Crusio speaks French, or at least that's the impression I got from his home page. Cheers!  Sloggerbum  ( talk ) 04:07, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

How a redirect works
Hi Wikmont, good to hear from you again! I don't think I've spent the time to explain how to make a page a redirect. Anyone can do it. Here's one for you to practice on! To make "Mario Meyer" automatically take people to "Mario Christian Meyer," you first go to the page here:

blank Mario Meyer page

The simply paste this code:


 * 1) REDIRECT Mario Christian Meyer

And save!  Sloggerbum  ( talk ) 17:52, 2 August 2011 (UTC)

Further directions
Hi Wikmont, when you paste this code:


 * 1) REDIRECT Mario Christian Meyer

here and save it, Wikipedia automatically has made a new page! You do not need to do anything else.

So it should be quite simple. Most pages on Wikipedia are redirects, and that is all they have in them! Basically if someone searches for "Mario Meyer," Wikipedia will take them first to the new page you created. Once Wikipedia notices it is a redirect, they then take the person automatically to Mario Christian Meyer, instantly.

Also, I am not sure about the video. Here is the process I use for photos:
 * Video


 * 1. Upload the photo. Paste the following code to the top of the photo information:


 * It should look similar to this: File:Hatty_stage_OM.jpg


 * 2. Email the copyright release to permissions-commons@wikimedia.org. Make sure to include the photo URL.


 * 3. Eventually a Wikipedia administrator will notice the OTRS tag on the photo. They will use the URL to look in the Wikimedia database for the release form you sent in. When they find it, they will update the photo page to look like this: File:Kiddo_360_2008_Unsigned_winners.JPG


 * Perhaps that will work for videos as well? But I am not sure. You can try uploading the video yourself, and be sure to the attach the code to the top of the page!

Cheers,  Sloggerbum  ( talk ) 17:00, 7 August 2011 (UTC)

Second homework assignment
Good job with the redirect! Why not try a second one? How about a redirect from Societe Royale de Medecine (so that people don't need to type in the accents). If you search for "Societe Royale de Medecine", you will see a red link to a blank page. Click on the red link and paste this code, just like you did for Mario Meyer:

#REDIRECT Paris Society of Medicine

Should do the same thing! Cheers,  Sloggerbum  ( talk ) 03:40, 8 August 2011 (UTC)

Publications
Hi Wikmont, I went ahead and split the page into two sections and opened it up for debate for now: Here's a homework assignment; since you are familiar with the material, can you go to the publications page and choose five or so of the most notable publications? Then we can post those onto the publication section on the Mario Christian Meyer page. For now, though, we should keep the list on the Meyer page fairly short. Hope all goes well!  Sloggerbum  ( talk ) 19:55, 17 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Mario Christian Meyer
 * Mario Christian Meyer (publications)

Hi Sloggerbum, Thank you very much for your contribution. just to understand, is it you that insert the following sentences:

"This article may require cleanup to meet Wikipedia's quality standards. The specific problem is: Mario Christian Meyer. Please improve this article if you can. The talk page may contain suggestions. (August 2011)

It has been suggested that this article or section be merged into Mario Christian Meyer. (Discuss) Proposed since August 2011.

This article may need to be wikified to meet Wikipedia's quality standards. Please help by adding relevant internal links, or by improving the article's layout. (August 2011) Click [show] on right for more details."

Is it useful to write "The specific problem is: Mario Christian Meyer."? Doesn't it create  "conflicting" discussions? cheersWikmontmartre18 (talk) 13:03, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

Hi Sloggerbum, I see you are not on holidays and you have made a very good job on the publications. I just read the discussion but I need to read it more deeply as I am not familiar with some words as COI and read the Wikipedia repository/nor repository. As you recommend I will make also a short-list of the most important publications which needs some analysis even if UNESCO AND LAROUSSE are on the TOP of choice. A great thanks to my fairy adopter; I am very please to learn Wikipedia rules with you. cheersWikmontmartre18 (talk) 15:50, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

Hi Sloggerbum,

Wonderful. The publications are correct now. Many thanks for your great work. Wikmontmartre18 (talk) 20:58, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

Your recent edits
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Changes up
Hi Wikmont, sorry for the delay! Quick request; would you mind leaving new comments at the bottom of my talk page, instead of in the middle? That makes it easier for me to find them. Thanks! I added your info the Mario Christian Meyer page, and removed two of the maintenance tags for the publications page as well. Take a look!  Sloggerbum  ( talk ) 21:17, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

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