User talk:Wildpalms7

Dian Fossey
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Your removal of the link to List of animal rights advocates from Fossey's article has previously been contested. As such, per WP:BRD, and especially given that Fossey is listed (with a source) at the linked list, please discuss at the article's Talk page before removing. DonIago (talk) 16:13, 19 November 2021 (UTC)

Hi Doniago. My removal of the link to List of animal rights advocates from Fossey's article was reverted without really being contested. I however, I am contesting it's reversion with the following:

Although Dian Fossey may be seen as a conservationist and researcher, she was not an “animal rights advocate”. In addition to kidnap and torture of humans, she indiscriminately shot poacher’s dogs and deliberately shot and crippled herdsmen’s cattle when she wasn’t tormenting them with firecrackers. (see page 103 of National Geographic’s own publication NO ONE LOVED GORILLAS MORE by Camilla de la Bedoyere, ISBN: 0-7922-9344-4)

People who committed crimes of kidnapping, arson, torture and putting a murder contract on someone, should not be revered on Wikipedia if there is any desire to maintain integrity and credibility.

The very concept of “animal rights” is very nebulous, subject to interpretation and emotion-based rather than scientific or factual, and linking names to this list of “animal rights advocates” appears to be only for the purpose of adoration, politics and advocacy itself. While I can’t attest to everyone on that list, what I’m seeing here is a lack of objectivity and accuracy. How you handle this will be very telling. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wildpalms7 (talk • contribs)
 * The place to discuss this is at the article's Talk page, where other editors can weigh in and we can reach a consensus. I've already initiated such a discussion.
 * The fact that Fossey is included in the list article makes it appear to me that the WP:SEEALSO link from her article is appropriate. If you want to contest her classification as such, you may want to start a discussion at the Talk page for the list.
 * In any case, Wikipedia has articles for kidnapping, arson, torture and murder; I would hardly say that we're revering such topics by discussing them. Calling Fossey an animal rights advocate if that's what sources call her is reasonable. We're not 'revering' her, we're reporting what other sources have called her, and if that's been contested, by all means, bring up sources that have contested it in your discussions. You're talking about her shooting dogs and cattle, but you're not providing a source that explicitly argues against calling her an animal rights advocate. Even if she did those things, to say, "She shot dogs and cattle and therefore is not an animal rights advocate." would be WP:SYNTHESIS unless a source has made that argument. DonIago (talk) 17:04, 19 November 2021 (UTC)