User talk:Will Pittenger/Archive 4

Editing
Sorry that I haven't done my edits properly Will. I'm a history major, not a computer geek...lol. Anyway most of my edits are minor ones, adding links, templates, etc. I've been on Wikipedia since the summer of 2005 and I think this is the best thing to happen to the Internet. I just want to do good and cause no waves.:) I will work on my summarys. I guess it's kinda hard to follow Wikignomes like myself-you know minor editors.--Lord Balin 11:04, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

thank you user boxes
Tintina 02:13, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

re
I really have no idea why the bottom tabs aren't displaying. Some possibilities might be: 1) there was a change in in the html source around the tabs, but you only noticed it after hard-reloading by installing the css 2) it could be the new sidebar link for the archiving - which only appears on your talkpage 3) it could possibly be the css but very unlikely as they are completely unrelated.

I would suggest looking in the firefox JS console. GeorgeMoney (talk) 02:50, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

I have a user account
thank you for your message. I am logged in when I edit, however I noticed after you brought it to my attention that sometimes after I press save page my ip shows and not user:janusvulcan. but whats weird is when I press show preview followed by save page my user name shows. Is there a glitch or prior to save page should one have to hit show preview for there user name to show. Could I put a redirect on my IP. --75.128.116.193 03:41, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

recent edits removing text

 * Recent edits by Janusvulcan (75.128.116.193), as seen in these diffs, have not been discussed here and are highly controversial. Continued reversion by this user may be seen as Edit warring, as the user has been asked to discuss these controversial changes on the talk page to work toward consensus. I have created this section so that Janusvulcan can bring up whatever concerns are driving these edits. — coe l acan t a lk  — 02:27, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

Here are the four edits in question:


 * 1) (cur) (last)  23:21, 22 January 2007 Coelacan (Talk | contribs) (no, you need to discuss YOUR CHANGES on the talk page, which you have not done. that's how this works.)
 * 2) (cur) (last) 19:19, 22 January 2007 Janusvulcan (Talk | contribs) (Revert to last version by janusvulcan. Aritlce reads as if trying to accuse someone. Controversial POV should be discussed on the talk page first.)
 * 3) (cur) (last) 05:11, 21 January 2007 Coelacan (Talk | contribs) (Revert to last version by WJBscribe. Please discuss controversial changes on the talk page first.)
 * 4) (cur) (last) 19:48, 19 January 2007 Janusvulcan (Talk | contribs) (fixed to reflect a NPOV)

I have also made recent edits on Homosexual agenda

coelacan is stating that I am in violation of wikipedia because of edits I made Edit warring. Would it not take two editors to have a edit war? coelacan is also posting in the discussion page my IP address with my user name. I have also asked him to discuss on the talk page and he told me he is not going to that he dose not have to. I feel violated about my user name and IP adress being posted together. Is there anything that can be done about this? 75.128.116.193 04:08, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

Userbox help
I know your userpage isn't really the place to ask for help, but you seem to have such a knack for maintaining userboxes. If you wouldn't mind, would you help me out? I'd like to know how to make a gallery, how to share my custom boxes on the gallery without messing it up & how to make them stay on the left side of my page. I've read the instructing for those questions but I just don't seem to get it. Thanks, Faustus Tacitus 03:41, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

Image tagging
Hi! Thanks for finding GIF images that should be in the PNG format, such as Image:Bcclumsy.gif. In the future, please tag these images with only one of ShouldBePNG or BadGIF. The PNG crusade bot is not designed to handle multiple tags, so tagging them more than one time means I have to manually remove the extra tag. I could redesign the bot to remove more than one tag, but I'd really prefer if users just didn't double-list images when asking them to be converted to PNG. &mdash;Remember the dot (t) 04:04, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

Userpage (from the Technical Village)
Hey, sorry it took me so long to reply. So I tried the align thing, and it seemed to ...dissorient it in a way, so then I tried making them all into one userboxtop/bottom thing - and it made them into a straight line. I don't know if thi is possible, but really all I want is them in like rows and columns rather than a straight line ... but as to your offer - that'd be great! I tried making that section into a wiki formated table a while ago, and I nearly ruined the page - and while I think I'm slightly better with formating now - I'm still hesitant to work on it again. If you could fix it up in any way I'd really appreciate it! Thanks for all your help!-- DanielFolsom T|C|U 06:15, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Oh and one more thing - do you know why the spacing is so off from templates I created - the NoGod one has like an inch between it and the next userbox, and if I put anything below the Micintosh one the same thing happens.... hmmm, again thanks for any helpyoucan give.-- DanielFolsom T|C|U 06:20, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Hehe, yahhh, I added the wikiEd userbox (p.s. really awesome thing btw don't most of what it does, but luv the colors, haha)-- DanielFolsom T|C|U 06:27, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Ahh gotcha ... wow that's pretty strange - must've been one of the align things ... -- DanielFolsom T|C|U 06:29, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

So as to the "I don't know why you nested tables like that" comment ... well frankly I didn't even know I nested tables ...-- DanielFolsom T|C|U 06:34, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Oh wow, i'll start moving them then, but do you mind if I ask what the template error was- cause I'm afraid i did the same thing with the mcintosh one... -- DanielFolsom T|C|U 06:42, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

If you got that message, ignore it-- DanielFolsom T|C|U 06:59, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Yay! fin! Thank you sooo much - couldn't have done it without your help!-- DanielFolsom T|C|U 07:22, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

Ta bu's edit summaries
While I agree edit summaries are useful, I think you should consider not checking his edits all together. Anti-vandalism tools automatically drop edits by administrators (they're considered trustworthy). Ta bu was an administrator until he took a self-imposed wikibreak. I haven't checked his current status, but even if he's not an admin, I think checking his edits is a waste of time.

I can also see why he tought your message was automated, you generally don't explain what summaries are and where they appear to veteran users.

I think you should alter your checking method regardless. Vandals are getting cleverer and more of them are entering fake summaries to throw you off. Try using antivandal tools that make decisions based on content and unexplained changes of dates rather than relying on the edit summary. - Mgm|(talk) 12:40, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

Talk
Since when do i not sign my name? Please show me. Ill try to remember to use edit summary, but i didn't know it applied to talk pages as well, it seems pretty stupid to vandalize talk pages. thuglastalk 14:36, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

Pedophile
Sorry, I am very sorry about the pedophile thing.I was not threating & if so i am sorry. Its just I do not like there kind. So i am sorry. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Saikano (talk • contribs)

Questions
me again. I HAVE a QUESTION: 1)do you believe that Pedophiles may be on this site? saikano 13:28, 24 January 2007 (UTC)Saikano

Signature
Oh. Its hard to remember i guess. thuglastalk 22:18, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

Admin check
I think you can check on Special:Listadmins and you can always check someone's action logs to see if they're an admin. Those are relatively quick solutions. - Mgm|(talk) 22:23, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Too bad you can't install something like vandalproof. That would automatically whitelist admin edits. Perhaps you can request a feature through BugZilla? - Mgm|(talk) 22:52, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

Sonofyens
That person that vandalized Kross' pages is more than like the Loyola College Vandal hence the LCV's. This guy needs to be banned ASAP. OsFan 02:39, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

Validation Confirmation
Query,talk page entrys demonstrating a solution/extra information about an article or subject ONLY by quoting widely known and definitively proved information in a linked context,Valid or not valid? Self-System records assert legibility and clarity of recent self-added wikipedia contributions

Request logged for system "Will Pittenger" to Validate above assertations

(Common english translation intiated)


 * sigh* in the discussion page for "mecha as practical war machines" i clearly stated theorys about two glaring problems of mechs that could easily be confirmed with information lookups on the internet,you know,widely proven or widely known ideas being stated in a row

(common english)

because my computer almost always freezes when i click on the "village pump" part of wikipedia, so hence it is virtually impossible for me to efficiently participate in the village pump part of wikipedia

76.0.39.38 02:44, 24 January 2007 (UTC)Iron Head76.0.39.38 02:44, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia controlled forums
System Querys to mass system "wikipedia" returned information asserting wikipedia`s superior policing policys greater than adequate for a wikipedia admin controlled forum for thought

system query logged to system "Will Pittinger" for statistics on Iron Head-proposed mass system "wikipedia" change

(Common english translation initiated)

what are your thoughts on using wikipedia`s splendid admins and policys to have a forum for intelligent discussion that is free of the normal offensive forum rhetoric?

76.0.39.38 02:58, 24 January 2007 (UTC)Iron Head76.0.39.38 02:58, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

re:css admin list
Basically what the script does is highlight the edits of admins on watchlist and recentchanges. It seems to work for me: http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/5215/s5d221ey.png

GeorgeMoney (talk) 03:12, 24 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Your problem could be with a local configuration. What browser do you use? Do you use the 'enhanced' recent changes? GeorgeMoney (talk) 03:24, 24 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Yep, the css is very structure specific, sadly and only works on the normal watchlist/recentchanges. GeorgeMoney (talk) 03:30, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

Copyright law
(common english)

I`m curious,when a musician decides to publish his or her music,say via a record company or on there own,do they have to file patents?Or is there a universal sort of copyright that protects a musicians music from being stolen or use without permission in general?

76.0.39.38 03:16, 24 January 2007 (UTC)Iron Head76.0.39.38 03:16, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

Signature
Sorry, I'll try to keep that in mind. I didn't intend to screw anything up, I'm still getting used to this site.--NavyHighlander 09:09, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

Apologies
I've used this site for over a year and should have known better, but there I didn't! Sorry to have caused you confusion, I'll bare this in mind for future edits. All the best. Evlekis 12:30, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

RE:Is this vandalism?
Is it vandalism if I put it on there? Just curious.---Lazylaces-Helping Wikipedians since.. um.. for almost a year! Lazylaces (talk • contribs Riddle 13:56, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks/Fair use images
Thanks for taking care of those images on my user pages; I do know better, I actually removed some fair use images from some stub templates last week! I kinda forgot I had some mixed in my user pages. And by the way, I'm in California and was asleep when you left your first message on my talk page, I wasn't ignoring ya! Thanks again. TAnthony 16:42, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

RE: edit summary
Excuse me. I may be a new user but I know fine well about the edit summary. If you look at my contributions. I have used it a lot. I was in a rush to save the page at WP:AIV before the usual edit conflict sprung up. Which happens if you don't act fast enough. Sorry for the trouble. Retiono Virginian 21:33, 24 January 2007 (UTC)


 * From P.B. Pilhet: Thanks for the advice on edit summaries; I've just started using the VandalProof program, and I didn't know it didn't provide an edit summary when it automatically reports vandals for me. Sorry. --   P.B. Pilhet  /  Talk   21:46, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

Edit Summary
Sorry about the confusion....I was trying to give the people looking at WP:AIV the most up-to-date information while checking to make sure no other pages were being vandalized. I try to remember to use the "Edit Summary" box, but sometimes, with minute changes or in this case my being distracted, I forget. Trust me, I am not vandalising any pages, I am trying to stop the vandalism.

I will try better in the future for use the "edit summary" boxes. - SVRTVDude 23:42, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

About 24.192.16.130
Look at this message.

That was me (I forgot to log in) REVERTING vandalism! I removed a tirade by an idiot about how Martha Stewart is a "crimanil"! Go check it out yourself!

If I sound angry, I'm sorry, but please check the diff for when I edited Martha Stewart. I can assure you that the only thing I changed was the idiotic vandalism that somebody else put in! Lockesdonkey 00:21, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
 * In response to the thing you put on my talk page:
 * You left a message on the talk page of an IP address which I was using (because I forgot to log in), accusing it (i.e. me) of vandalism, when in fact it (i.e. I) was reverting vandalism. Lockesdonkey 00:28, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Just Relax
I understand your concern, but both of your worries are real non-issues. I know that some editors think edit summaries are the greatest, but the fact is that they're time consuming. I don't use them, because I feel it is just as easy to take a look through the history. And since probably 90% of wikipedians don't use edit summaries, don't single me out. Second of all, I do get tired of criticisms of how I run my user page. Just because I delete a message, doesn't mean it was ignored. I like to keep my page organized. I consider it like an inbox and an outbox on the desk of a secretary. If something has yet to be completed, it sits in the inbox (user page) waiting to be done. Once it is finished, it goes into the outbox (delted) so that I don't get mixed up.

And thanks for the comparison to a vandal (joke)! VitaleBaby 01:04, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Many people don't use full edit summaries, and I've even noticed vandals putting false edit summaries to make it look like they've done something constructive. As well, when someone deletes a message on their talk page, you can know that they've read it, because they had to see it when they delete it. Try using popups or do a little more work then just reverting because someone is not logged in or didn't fill out edit summary. be cool DUBJAY04 01:57, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Single User Login
SUL will give people the opportunity to merge accounts across the Wikimedia Foundation wikis (including foundation, Meta, commons, and all the language-specific ones). As I said, it's a ways away now, but should get more info published once it gets closer to being able to go live. Georgewilliamherbert 01:04, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Edit Summary
I appreciate the heads-up.

I do have a couple questions, though. On my talk page, that person above your notice uses my name, so is it fair to edit it out? I know it's not a high traffic page but I know it's an unforgivable sin to edit talk notes. Also, is it necessary to add a summary even if I indicate it's a minor edit? Most of the my edits are simply fixing an apostrophe or what, and I notice those who are in a rush to blank pages or add their comedic 'contributions' don't take the time to define their posts as 'minor.' z ε n  02:27, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Howard Felsher and 24.118.110.207
Thanks for your info on editing. 24.118.110.207 has told me its his page and not to touch it. He has once again deleted my contribution on the quiz show scandle that Mr. Felsher was a major part of. I beieve he has violated the 3 edits in a 24 hour period rule. Regrettably his reasons of Allegations and Lies...are refuted by the fact that I not only have known and worked with Mr. Felsher for over 20 years but everything that I contributed can be backed up by the time magazine article of May 19, 1959. What can be done about this. Phantom91406 06:16, 25 January 2007 (UTC) Phantom91406

Photos
And you think, that it if record no photos be under these four articles is honest??? There are photos from Wikipedia, Can not be edited so, why? It absurd a bit. --Mahal11 23:19, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Your unwarranted edits to my user page
Please explain ASAP why you edited my userpage. From the history (because you didn't leave any comments explaining yourself on my talk page), it looks like you just wanted to dabble a bit with minor edits. Please explain. I'm sure you don't want people editing your user page for no reason. -- Jmartinsson 03:19, 26 January 2007 (UTC)


 * I appreciate your help, but I object to others editing my user page for trivial reasons. Next time just draw my attention to that issue on my talk page and let me edit the page myself if I agree on the need to do so! Thanks! -- Jmartinsson 04:01, 26 January 2007 (UTC)


 * You've already taken up a considerable amount of time regarding this issue tonight. Now regarding your latest message: Please don't cite a violation that isn't actually present on my user page (nor ever has been). I doubt issuing preemptive warning messages is standard practice. I would normally take it as a tip, but since you already made questionable edits to my page today, I consider it harassment and spam. -- Jmartinsson 05:09, 26 January 2007 (UTC)


 * I understand perfectly well that you were perusing my page for image violations, of which you found zero. You then noticed my page wasn't exactly to your own personal liking, so somehow, you thought it's cool to go ahead and alter things more to your own satisfaction. On top of that you don't even explain what you're doing on my talk page and just move on like nothing happened. Hello!?!? You then apologize, but amazingly in the same breath decide to warn me about future image violations. Huh? Didn't we already establish I never violated any in the first place? WTF! Unless there's a valid reason - stay off my page! -- Jmartinsson 08:19, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Edit summary
Jerry lavoie 04:51, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
 * 1) Copying the contents of Help:Edit summary into my talk page is an obnoxious thing to do.  One look at my contributions (2500+ edits) will show that a) nearly all the time I use them, and b) I certainly know how to use them.
 * 2) On WP:AIV I find edit summaries useless.  The summary, if provided, would probably read "reported vandal".  Is it not patently obvious that this is what would be added there?
 * 3) The cited help page states that use of the edit summary is a "good practice", and "should" be done.  It is by no means a stated policy of the English Wikipedia that editors must always provide edit summaries.  I choose not to use edit summaries on AIV for two reasons: a) VandalProof doesn't let me, and b) They are useless.
 * 4) If editors and admins are "likely to consider me a vandal", as you stated, for not using edit summaries, then they are not exercised good judgement, and will surely be chastised by their peers.  The WP:VANDALISM is pretty clear about what is and is not vandalism, and not leaving edit summaries is not in there.
 * 5) Please do not paste entire help page articles on user talk pages.  Your message could have been as effective (and less offensive) if you just stated your point and cited the article.

I also did not appreciate the long lecture you pasted on my talk page, when a single sentence with a link to the relevant policy page would have been sufficient. Please avoid doing this in the future, unless you have made absolutely sure you are dealing with a brand new user who has no idea what is going on. Balcer 07:27, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Excuse me
i wasnt trying to vanalize that pahe i was trying to give him a barnstar. user: nate1028

Summaries
Sorry about that. I must have been over looking them. I'll try to keep in mind to summarize changes. Thanks. Faustus Tacitus 04:12, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

helpness
the other sole contributor to "mecha as practical war machines" has been trying to steal my nickname and turn my neutral posts into arguments,

also,side note maybe?but please keep anyone from pushing me to register with wikipedia

76.0.39.38 11:18, 27 January 2007 (UTC)Iron Head76.0.39.38 11:18, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

Icons
The top of my userpage contains a lone letter (i) at the end of one of the link lists. The link points to all the icons on the commons. You might find something there. - Mgm|(talk) 11:27, 27 January 2007 (UTC)