User talk:WilliamJE/Archive 10

SnookerLuke
I'm not sure if this is the correct way of contacting you however, I am messaging you of a edit you undone of mine. It's the America West Airlines Flight 556 in 2002. On the List of accidents and incidents involving commercial aircraft. I am quite confused why it didn't meet the criteria when it's clearly a incident. Please could you explain in more detail. Many Thanks SnookerLuke — Preceding unsigned comment added by SnookerLuke (talk • contribs) 08:41, 17 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Because the whole thing happened on the ground and the aircraft was still attached to a tug. Me and another editor or editors agreed it did not constitute an incident and the flight was taken off the list.
 * In the future, please put new posts at the bottom of a User's talk page. Thank you....William 14:40, 27 September 2014 (UTC)

Alright I understand, Thank you.

Beulaville, NC
Thanks for taking the time to notice that the "Notable People" from Beulaville weren't actually "from" Beulaville, but surrounding communities... which has spurred my ambition to creation separate Wikipedia pages for these communities. Ha, it was ticking me off for a while though. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Marc.bratcher (talk • contribs) 12:48, 7 September 2014 (UTC)

The Center Line: Summer 2014

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Category:People from Pittsford, New York
Re your comment that "Being a suburb doesn't make them from Rochester or anywhere else", I disagreed but then read the article on suburb, and is looks like suburb means something different in the US than it does in the UK, you learn something new every day... GrahamHardy (talk) 21:23, 22 October 2014 (UTC)


 * A few things on categorizing by United States citizens which BTW you're doing a very good job.
 * A person dying somewhere doesn't always mean they are from that place.
 * Being an alumni or affiliated with a school or university doesn't make a person from a place either. The same goes for a person who plays for a town's sports team.
 * The category pages you create also have a talk page. You can create this with a link to the proper state WikiProject.


 * I'm just making some useful pointers. Categorizing people by place and creating categories is wiki editing I like to do too. You did work on Rochester New York suburbs. The Category 'Sportspeople from Rochester, New York' was created and filled by me. Cheers!...William 23:54, 23 October 2014 (UTC)

Diocesan templates
Hi-I have no problems adding a priest to a diocesan template especially if the priest was ordained to the priesthood for the diocese or had some connection to the diocese being born and raised there. Solanus Casey was an excellent example. Fr. Casey was born and raised on a farm in Pierce County, Wisconsin in the Roman Catholic Diocese of La Crosse before he joined the Capuchin order. There was lots of coverage in the La Crosse diocesan newspaper about Fr. Casey since he is a candidate for canonization. As for Leo Binz I have no problems about he being added to the Rockford Diocesan template since he was ordained for the Rockford Diocese. I feel there should be some flexibility of who is to be added to the diocesan templates. Thanks-RFD (talk) 17:43, 26 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi-One of the editors has been creating diocesan templates-the Archdiocese of Boston article does not have one either yet. It is a gradual process-Many thanks-RFD (talk) 18:09, 26 October 2014 (UTC)

Please comment
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Notability_(sports)#Bullpen_catchers Alex (talk) 05:46, 1 November 2014 (UTC)

Hi
Hi, I'm User Anupmehra. I recently hovered on userpage and had glimpse of it which curiously led me making a click on and read thoroughly all over it. It was nice reading your userpage. There I found an image of you with Bishop Gerald Barbarito which you uploaded in February 2014 on English Wikipedia in a Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 license. I just wanted to let you know that, I've cropped out the image of Bishop and uploaded in on Wikimedia Commons under the same license to use it in his article. Thanks for the image and happy editing! :) Anupmehra  - Let's talk!  14:44, 10 November 2014 (UTC)

Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents
There is currently a discussion at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. - Sum mer PhD  (talk) 05:14, 12 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Note the above wording is not usually left for people who have commented on a n AN/I thread.  All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 17:14, 13 November 2014 (UTC).


 * William, you have spoken your peace there, more than once, and that's enough. Your comments re:Summer are by now amounting to harassment, and you should stop. Thank you. Drmies (talk) 03:35, 14 November 2014 (UTC)
 * The only harassing taking place is being done by Summer. Please explain what other purpose his starting his SPI on me could have been done for. Did Sphilbrick, Nyttend, Orlady, or Bbb23 ever suspect me of sockpuppeting as an IP in the talk page discussion that was the basis for the SPI? No because the idea was simply ludicrous.
 * Summer has a long history of harassing people and here is just the latest example. Her reversion here followed by placing a template warning on another editor's talk all over a good faith edit. A google search shows this person to be notable, which she in her edit summary reversion says they aren't. The only issue with the editor making the addition to the notable people list was not putting a reference for it. And note her edit summary says good faith edit. Do we template editors for good faith edits? No way was their addition of Porter Hanks a reason for them to be templated....William 12:55, 14 November 2014 (UTC)
 * The other editor added a name without a pre-existing article to a list that normally includes only notable entries. I added the standard template which reads: "Your recent edit to (article name) appears to have added the name of a non-notable entity to a list that normally includes only notable entries. In general, a person or organization added to a list should have a pre-existing article before being added to most lists. If you wish to create such an article, please first confirm that the subject qualifies for a separate, stand-alone article according to Wikipedia's notability guideline. Thank you." We regularly use neutrally worded template notices in such cases. In cases of apparent bad faith, we have other templates, such as the one you used when reverting my good faith edit. - Sum mer PhD  (talk) 14:49, 14 November 2014 (UTC)

Japanese sportspeople by prefecture by sport
Hi, feel free to use Categories for discussion/Log/2014 August 25 as a precedent for speedy nominations of other sport-specific grandchildren in Category:Sportspeople by prefecture in Japan. – Fayenatic  L ondon 16:00, 16 November 2014 (UTC)

Moscow sportspeople
Regarding this discussion outcome. Rethinking this - there is form to have specific sports player categories for the first administrative subdivision of a country (e.g. Category:Players of American football from Wisconsin). On that basis it is probably easier to rework the contents of Category:Sportspeople from Moscow by sport to a new Category:Sportspeople from Moscow Oblast category which would fit within our usual approach. Noticed the merge isn't done yet so thought you might be interested in the suggestion. SFB 01:40, 18 November 2014 (UTC)

Steve Roccaforte
Just checking on the category change from Alumni to basketball player tied to Steve Roccaforte's article. I just wanted to raise some questions about the move. I have been unable to find any reference of Roccaforte as a Lamar player. There are several references of his graduation from Lamar University; however. According to his biographies, he served as a student assistant at Lamar for three years and a player at Southern University; not Lamar for one season. Perhaps he should be included in the Southern University basketball player category.

Reviewing his association with Lamar, should he be included in the Lamar basketball player category if his only role as an undergraduate at Lamar was as student assistant? I checked for records of rosters during his undergraduate years. If he was a player on the Lamar team, he did not have any playing time according to the following playing stat images. (Just to make sure, I added an additional season to when I believe he would have been a student at Lamar.)

I'm pretty new to the world of Wikipedia and just want things to be correct. Could you review when you get some time and see if Steve Roccaforte's categorization as a Lamar basketball player is the correct one? I'll leave the change as is, but I think it is an incorrect categorization of the individual.15:14, 20 November 2014 (UTC)LUSportsFan (talk)


 * If Roccaforte didn't play basketball at Lamar, I've made a mistake in good faith and go ahead and correct his article....William 15:55, 20 November 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for checking and reviewing. As noted above, I'm pretty new to the Wikipedia editing process and really appreciate folks looking over my shoulder.LUSportsFan (talk) 16:29, 20 November 2014 (UTC)

Internet Explorer 1
Hi.

I am here about the state of Internet Explorer 1. The AfD that you are talking about ended on 1 November 2013 and held no prejudice about a merger possibility. proposed a merger one day later and carried it out three days later. Unsurprisingly, I support the merger per WP:SIZERULE.

If you wish to split, you need to gather consensus through a discussion.

Best regards, Codename Lisa (talk) 05:49, 22 November 2014 (UTC)


 * An editor contested it, you reverted. I contested it. Remember WP:BRD? You have to take it to AFD again....William 10:56, 22 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Merge discussion are not held in AFD. As for the BRD, currently, there is a four-to-one consensus in favor of the merger. So, if you want to split, it is you who must start the discussion. And as for your assertion of "history", you have quite a huge block log. Comp.arch and Codename Lisa are never blocked. So please feel free to continue your WP:OWN rants; I am not in the least worrying about anyone believing you. Fleet Command (talk) 10:41, 23 November 2014 (UTC)

Article feedbak/assessment request
Hi,

Undersigned had created article Legal awareness in may 2012. Since then I updated and improved the article many times in past one and half year.

I will be happy if you help me in reassessing tags in article namely

and also

may be article is due for udating class status futher from.

I suppose a peer feedback will help me improve the article content still further. You are one of experinced and active WikiProject Law members, and I request your kind support in this respect.

Mahitgar (talk) 10:01, 22 November 2014 (UTC)

St. Vincent Ferrer Church
Hi William-I had to look at the St. Vincent Ferrer Parish website because the article did not have too much to look at because of the copyright problem. Okay-if the church is on the National Register of Historic Place, has an unique architecture or history and has the sources to establish these qualities then it would be notable. But even the parish's website does not have too much information. A belated Thanksgiving to you and your family also-Many thanks-RFD (talk) 00:24, 30 November 2014 (UTC)

Precious again
  can't retire

Thank you, faithful user who warns of "one too many screws loose", for quality articles on golf and air incidents, such as Sun-Young Yoo and Viasa Flight 742, for going after reliable sources and for, - you are an awesome Wikipedian!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:34, 30 November 2013 (UTC) A year ago, you were the 678th recipient of my  Pumpkin Sky Prize, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:20, 30 November 2014 (UTC)

The Center Line: Fourth Quarter 2014

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Stephen Hodge
Just read the reason why you are proposing deleting this article. I don't agree, because this player was All-conference in College and led the nation in sacks in 2007, which makes him an important college player. He also was drafted by the Dallas Cowboys of the National Football League and it is important for historic reference to document the reasons why he didn't make the team.Tecmo (talk) 17:31, 10 January 2015 (UTC)

Categorization
I am creating categories now. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 20:05, 10 January 2015 (UTC)


 * It is a bad habit of creators of new sports articles to link to nonexistent categories. In my 500 edits here, I've removed those links over 20 times. Including the ones you did. Create the categories first or preview a page before saving it so you can see if the categories exist already....William 20:09, 10 January 2015 (UTC)

Chilean presidential election, 1881
Hello William. I assume you removing the Category:Elections in Chile and Category:1881 elections in South America from this article was a mistake? Number  5  7  14:48, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
 * It was. I've been deleting categories from years in Chile and I misread the 1881 category on the elections page....William 14:52, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
 * OK, cool :) Number   5  7  14:56, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

Categories
Hi William, I don't understand why you reverted this, this and this. I made these categories (like all the other categories in Category:Women's road bicycle races) because there were too many articles in Category:Women's road bicycle races. By deleting this category from Category:Women's road bicycle races all the articles (like 2007 Tour of Chongming Island Stage race, 2013 Tour of Chongming Island World Cup and 2014 Tour of Chongming Island World Cup races can't be found, so it's not overcategorized at all. Sander.v.Ginkel (Je suis Charlie) 12:01, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
 * It's overcategorized because you have the race and the race's category linked to the same categories. The amount of entries in a category doesn't override WP:Categorization. There are categories with 1000s of entries. Sportspeople for Toronto is one such entry. A recent CFD, deleted 'Ice hockey players from Toronto' even though Sportspeople is overflowing and the same argument can be made articles would be missed there. However it was decided it was overcategorization....William 14:21, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
 * So your point is that the race and the race's category linked to the same categories. The difference with your examples is that it's here about categories with the name of an article. This is the way how articles on WP are organized with articles having the same name as it's category. An other example 2012 Summer Olympics is in the category Category:2012 Summer Olympics. Both the article and the category are in the same categories.


 * The 2014 Tour of Chongming Island World Cup is in the category Category:Tour of Chongming Island.
 * The article about the catetory (Tour of Chongming Island) is in the category Category:Tour of Chongming Island
 * The Category:Tour of Chongming Island is in the category Category:Women's road bicycle races.
 * Because Tour of Chongming Island is a women's bicycle race it's in Category:Women's road bicycle races. Because has also the same name as it's category its also in Category:Tour of Chongming Island.


 * By deleting the Category:Tour of Chongming Island from Category:Women's road bicycle races you also delete all the pages in the category Category:Tour of Chongming Island. Because 2014 Tour of Chongming Island World Cup is a women's bicycle race it should be in the category category:Women's road bicycle races.
 * If you delete Category:Tour of Chongming Island from Category:Women's road bicycle races all the categories in Category:Women's road bicycle races should be deleted, and all those single articles in these categories should be tagged for the Category:Women's road bicycle races.
 * I don't agree you delete Category:Tour of Chongming Island from Category:Women's road bicycle races, as per WP:CAT: "each categorized page should be placed in all of the most specific categories to which it logically belongs." From Category:Tour of Chongming Island it's Category:Women's road bicycle races. Sander.v.Ginkel (Je suis Charlie) 18:04, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
 * The race article is a women's bicycle race. The category is named after a sporting event. Category named afters have all sorts of categories in them. A track where a race is run that's is associated with the event, however it should not be contents of a category that's categorized '2014 establishments in Foo', 'Recurring sporting events established in 2014' etc. The categories belong on the article page, not both the article and the category....William 18:14, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Can you please give me the link with the policy for this? Other question, you say all the categories in Category:Women's road bicycle races and Category:men's road bicycle races should be deleted? Sander.v.Ginkel (Je suis Charlie) 18:22, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
 * I agree with Sander.v.Ginkel. I reverted them. WilliamJE, please read Categorization. MFriedman (talk) 18:47, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
 * This is written: Articles with an eponymous category may also be categorized in the broader categories that would be present if there were no eponymous category (e.g. the article France appears in both Category:France and Category:Western Europe, even though the latter is the parent category of the former). MFriedman (talk) 18:49, 9 February 2015 (UTC)

The Center Line: Winter 2015

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WikiProject Kentucky template is deprecated
Hello. Thank you for all your additions to WikiProject Kentucky. I noticed that you have been applying the deprecated template for the project. Please from now on use WikiProject United States instead, with the parameter "KY=yes" (how it will look: ). WP KY has been a part of WP US for many years now. Cheers! Stevie is the man! Talk • Work 19:42, 1 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Will do....William 19:55, 1 March 2015 (UTC)

Sweet Briar College
Why are you edit warring over this? --Neil N  talk to me 20:27, 27 March 2015 (UTC)

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 * 1) Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made.
 * 2) Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.

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How were you not warned?
When I reverted a post I got an official warning and even got called names while people are WP:CIVIL with you, how do you do that? Pardon for the other post, forgot to sign in and my sister hates seeing the "you have a message from another user" when she browses Wikipedia. --Lumia930uploader (talk) 20:02, 14 April 2015 (UTC)


 * What reversion are we talking about?...William 22:20, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

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See alsos
As you have been told previously on this issue, these links and templates are standard nationwide, and the thing you cite is a general idea, not applicable in all situations. Your stalking of me, moreover, is not appreciated and will result in a request for sanctions, especially as you have been blocked in the past for harassing me. Nyttend (talk) 03:35, 3 May 2015 (UTC)


 * No it ain't nationwide and I can supply recent proof. You provide the consensus for not adhering to WP policy.


 * There's my proof. Right out of the horse's mouth. I got blocked by you two not for personal attacks but because I complained. Orlady has said the same. Its time for both of you to go to ARBCOM for that and your other grossly incompetent acts as an administrator. It's long overdue that you two get stripped....William 10:00, 3 May 2015 (UTC)


 * You wrote above- "Your stalking of me, moreover, is not appreciated" I will remind you of what Sphilbrick (The administrator who overturned that totally indefensible block as seen by not one person defending it either at my talk page, Orlady's, or at ANI.) wrote before he overturned that block.- "I think William, while far form perfect has been mainly the victim in this mess, and it is unfair that he is blocked, while no one else is accountable." Emphasis added by me. Sphilbrick on more on one occasion that I can continue making complaints about administrators around here. The only way I can do that is by checking their behavior, like when they block an editor incorrectly by their own admission.


 * Above you wrote- especially as you have been blocked in the past for harassing me. That is absolutely untrue. Orlady wrote here 'No, you weren't harassing Nyttend." Again your lack of competence is showing as you are twisting something that happened into something that it is absolutely not in the words of the person who committed the act.


 * You and Orlady being held accountable is long overdue. Prove that I am stalking you or face sanctions yourself for making accusations/Personal attacks without proof. As WP:WIAPA says, "Accusations about personal behavior that lack evidence" are personal attacks. Take me to ANI. Maybe its time I take you to ANI for your threat to use a improper block against me for something it totally wasn't in the very words of the blocking administrator....William 14:09, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
 * I already gave you the evidence once: see the links given at User talk:WilliamJE/Archive 9 in the only section where my username is present. Meanwhile, given that you vowed to continue your grudge against me (ninth sentence here), that you've repeatedly been blocked for battleground behavior, and that your response to logical arguments is to call people "low-life cold-blooded snakes without a conscience" (three sentences before the grudge pledge), it's clearly not possible to maintain reasonable discussions with you, so I'm not going to waste my time on attempting it.  Nyttend (talk) 02:11, 5 May 2015 (UTC)

I think we can handle this at WT:NRHP where I've started a thread. Does everybody agree to follow a consensus if it is arrived at there? Smallbones( smalltalk ) 14:47, 7 May 2015 (UTC)

The Center Line: Spring 2015

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Essays
Just my thought ... essays, such as that on overciting, are simply essays. The view of one or more editors, that may not reflect consensus. I think it is one of the worst ones we have. It leads to the deletion at times of footnotes that don't only support the text, but that also importantly contain further information. Readers can follow the ref, and learn that greater contextual information if they like. If the ref is not deleted. Further, given the lack of understanding of some editors as to what constitutes a copyright infringement, an extra ref can quell their desire to inappropriately call text a copyvio. --Epeefleche (talk) 21:40, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

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2015 2015 Poprad-Tatry ATP Challenger Tour – Doubles
It wasnt really my fault, cause i just linked it from the 2015 atp challenger tour page, also if you know it a error you dont have to message me about it. Thanks. Dencod16 (talk) 22:12, 14 June 2015 (UTC)

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