User talk:William Maury Morris II

"Japan Current" https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Index:Physical_Geography_of_the_Sea_and_its_Meteorology.djvu 11th edition 1860

https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Page:Physical_Geography_of_the_Sea_and_its_Meteorology.djvu/102

... .the laws which govern the atmosphere and the laws which govern the ocean (§ 164) are laws which were put in force by the Creator when the foundations of the earth were laid, and that therefore they are laws of order...

Robert Dabney Minor - Captain of the CSS Virginia on the 2nd day vs USS Monitor
Capt. Robert Dabney Minor (1827 - 1871) Birth: 13 Sep 1827 Fredericksburg, VA Died: 25 Nov 1871 Richmond, VA Buried: Hollywood Cemetery, Richmond, VA Father: Garrett Minor, b. 25 Dec 1779, Louisa Co., VA Mother: Elizabeth McWilliams, b. 1784

Wife: Landonia Randolph, b. 24 Mar 1830, Fauquier Co., VA Married:17 Dec 1850 Fauquier Co., VA

Their Children 1. Landonia Randolph Minor 2. Mary B. Minor, b. 16 Sep 1851 3. Anne Mortimer Minor, b. 2 Feb 1859 4. Elizabeth Carter Minor, b. 5 Sep 1871, Henrico Co., VA 5. Roberta Dabney Minor, b. 3 Jul 1872

Maury (talk) 23:28, 13 March 2015 (UTC)

Ironclad CSS Virginia's 1st day battle more important than "Battle of Ironclads" on the 2nd day
I thought it would be good to establish some proof of the name of the flag officer on the CSS Virginia's 1st day and battle. Often, too often, a work starts with The Battle of the Ironclads" which did not happen until the 2nd day. Perhaps some do not want the 1st day's conquest and proof of an ironclad in battle against the once powerful wood ships of the world's navies but that 1st day did this and should not be overlooked on purpose or otherwise.

SOURCE: '''Catalogue of the Confederate Museum, Richmond, Va., 1898. By Museum of the Confederacy (Richmond, Va.)'''

SOURCE:On Google https://books.google.com/books?pg=PA69&dq=Robert+Dabney+Minor&ei=JcGPVKHbFJaqyASg_4GwDA&id=lS1XAAAAYAAJ#v=onepage&q=Robert%20Dabney%20Minor&f=false

It states the following on page 69

" 11 Naval Coat and Vest, worn by Flag Lieutenant Robert Dabney Minor, of the battle-ship Merrimac, in the battle of Hampton Roads, March 8, 1862. Deposited by Mrs. Robert D. Minor.

12 Confederate Naval Uniform of Captain Robert Dabney Minor. Deposited by Mrs. Robert Dabney Minor."

On Wikipedia the Flag officer is not mentioned. Robert Dabney Minor and Franklin Buchanan were hit from shots from shore AFTER the flag officer was rowing to the surrendered ship to save lives. That is how he was shot and how Buchanan was shot. The 2nd day they spent in the hospital while Catesby ap Roger Jones took over command against the Monitor. But there is this 1st day history entirely left out and it was the maiden voyage of the CSS Virginia! She devastated the thoughts that the CSS Virginia was an "iron tomb". Maury (talk) 18:28, 15 December 2014 (UTC)
 * I think the command structure and these related events should be fleshed out. How does the succession go to Josiah Tattnall III? We need a good source. Tattnall and sailor gunnery crews acquitted themselves well in the river defense of Richmond following the scuttling of the CSS Virginia. TheVirginiaHistorian (talk) 18:44, 15 December 2014 (UTC)


 * re: CSS Virginia, Josiah Tattnall III and Catesby ap Roger Jones' command comes in 2nd day after Franklin Buchanan and his flag officer Robert Dabney Minor of the CSS Virginia have been shot from shore and are in the hospital on day 2 when the "Battle of the Ironclads" takes place.

SOURCE: The CIVIL WAR AT SEA by Virgil Carrington Jones volume 1 of 3 volumes.

I need to research something (with excellent source beyond the papers housed in the Mariner's Museum's Letters archived (in Virginia) about those shots from shore) BTW, it was Catesby Ap Roger Jones who lit the fuse that blew up the CSS Virginia. Are you aware of that?

Source & on Wikisource: Southern Historical Society Papers volume 19.djvu/11 

" I now pass to a later period. The action in Hampton Roads had been fought. Among the gallant officers of the Virginia, whose names are now historic, was Lieutenant Robt. D.[Dabney] Minor—a very pink of honor. He had been associated with me in ordnance work, and was frilly informed as to the facts in this matter. From him I received the following letter. It has never been published and will, I think, be read with interest:

"NAVAL HOSPITAL, NORFOLK, VA., March 11, 1862.

"Many thanks, my dear Brooke, John Mercer Brooke, for your very kind letter, which reached me by to day's mail.

"You richly deserve the gratitude and thanks of the Confederacy for the plan of the now celebrated Virginia, and I only wish that you could have been with us to have witnessed the successful operations of this new engine of naval warfare, fostered by your care and watched over by your inventive mind.

"It was a great victory, though the odds were nearly seven to one against us in guns and in numbers. But the IRON and the HEAVY GUNS did the work, handled by such a man as glorious old Buchanan,

On her maiden voyage the CSS Virginia was captained by Admiral "Buck" Buchanan and the flag officer was Lt. Robert Dabney Minor. (R D Minor) They were both wounded after trying to save Union men on a burning ship—from shots fired at them from shore. Thus both Buchanan and Minor were in the hospital the following day.

The 2nd day Catesby ap Roger Jones was captain of the CSS Virginia vs. the Monitor.

Source: "Civil War at Sea" By Virgil Carrington Jones, vol 1 of 3 volumes.

Official Records of the Navy would be another source and so probably would be "Civil War Dictionary" by Mark Boatner and there are more but you are silent and it seems you want to take a different direction from what I have started writing about here. Maury (talk) 06:07, 16 December 2014 (UTC)


 * You are correct, the first day is the proof of the iron clads superiority on the stage of military warfare.


 * And I would further speculate that the Union blockades were broken in every instance Confederate iron clads were employed, --- Union ships scattered out to sea in "iron clad fever" as I remember more than one source recounting, --- and the blockade was not reestablished until either Union iron clads could drive them into port or the Confederate iron clads mechanically failed.


 * The presence of one Confederate iron clad in North Carolina kept the supply line open to Lee in Petersburg for months, winning duels with Union iron clads, opposing otherwise overwhelming numbers of ships in blockade. I have indeed begun a search of my secondary sources. You have raised an important point which probably should be expanded in other articles as well.


 * The bias in Wikipedia is substantially oriented to land combat, omitting or even discounting naval combat. This is not confined to Civil War, I have found it among editors in trying to expand the Bombardment of Cherbourg of World War II. The interplay of joint services operations is not always understood or appreciated. TheVirginiaHistorian (talk) 11:08, 16 December 2014 (UTC)


 * People know Wikipedia is not supposed to have any biases. But they see biases and decide "Wikipedia has lots of mistakes". I have heard this spoken. That portion of the first day of the CSS Virginia *changed world history of naval warfare forever*. Yet it is not part of the article which is absurd. I was in the U.S. Navy in the late 1960s and I don't recall seeing any piece of wood on any of our ships. I was on a Destroyer and an Aircraft Carrier. The "battle of the ironclads" was only that--an ironclad vs an ironclad of different designs. Those two in conflict against each other changed nothing except later designs. Maury (talk) 22:50, 17 December 2014 (UTC)

Notes on Draper+Maury related families on Wikipedia
Extracted from Page:Woman's who's who of America, 1914-15.djvu/538 on www.Wikisource.org

MAURY, Antonia Coetana, Hastlngs-on-Hudson, N.Y. Astronomer and teacher; b. Cold-Spring-on Hudson, N.Y., Mar. 21, 1866; dau. Rev. Mytton Maury, D.D., and Virginia (Draper) Maury; grad. Vassar Coll., A.B. '87. Engaged in Harvard Coll. Observatory,1889-95; teacher of physical science in the Oilman School, Cambridge, Mass., 1891-94; Miss Mason's School, Tarrytown, N.Y., since 1909. Specializes in astronomical research. Author: Classification of the Spectra of Bright Stars (Harvard Annals, 1897). Mem. Brooklyn Inst, of Arts and Sciences.

MAURY, Carlotta Joaqulna, Hastings-on-Hudson, N.Y. geologist, palentologist; b. Hastings-on-Hudson, N.Y.; dau. Rev. Mytton Maury and Virginia (Draper) Maury; ed. Cornell Univ., Ph.D. '96; Univ. of Paris, 1898-99; Cornell, Ph.D. '02; Schuyler fellow in geology, 1897-98, Sigma Xi '98 (Delta Gamma). Ass't Columbia Univ., dep't of palaeontology; lecturer palaeontology, Barnard Coll.; ass't Louisiana State Geological Survey; lecturer Huguenot Coll., Univ. of the Cape of Good Hope. Author: Comparison of the Oligocene of Western Europe and the Southern United States; New Oligocene Shells from Florida; Deep Well Fossils from Terrebonne Parish; Rock Salts (with others); Quaternary and Recent Mollusca of the Gulf Coast; contributor to the Palaeontology of Trinidad Island. Fellow A.A.A.S.; cor. mem. Philadelphia Acad. Science. Recreation: Traveling. Episcopalian. Favors woman suffrage. Maury (talk) 14:30, 23 December 2014 (UTC)

Colonel Richard Launcelot Maury & Flag of the C.S.S. Shenandoah
https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Page:Southern_Historical_Society_Papers_volume_35.djvu/272

[The flag of the Shenandoah, reverently preserved by the late Colonel Richard Launcelot Maury, C. S. A., son of Commissioner Matthew Fontaine Maury, was recently deposited with the Confederate Memorial Literary Society, and is preserved in the Museum Building at Richmond, Va.—Ed.]

Commended themselves by their example, not alone to us, but world-wide to those who hold truth and fidelity in regard.

RICHARD LAUNCELOT MAURY, Colonel Confederate States Army, born in Fredericksburg, Va., in 1842; died at Richmond, Va., October 14, 1907; eldest son of Commodore Matthew Fontaine Maury, the "Pathfinder of the Seas," and by double line of that fugitive Huguenot band of exiles for conscience sake, whose influence is so marked in families of their extraction he promptly gave allegiance to the South, enlisting in "F" Company, of Richmond, Va.; promoted to the rank of lieutenant, he was assigned to the C. S. Navy, and for daring service therein was further promoted to the rank of major of the 24th Virginia Infantry, and surrendered at Appomattox Courthouse with the rank of colonel. Since the war he has been a successful practitioner of law at Richmond, Va.

Category "Confederate States Navy captains"
Please add Captain William Lewis Maury, the captain of the C S S Georgia.