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NPR Newsletter No.17


Hello ,


 * News
 * The WMF has announced that Google Translate is now available for translating articles through the content translation tool. This may result in an increase in machine translated articles in the New Pages Feed. Feel free to use the tag and gently remind (or inform) editors that translations from other language Wikipedia pages still require attribution per WP:TFOLWP.


 * Discussions of interest
 * Two elements of CSD G6 have been split into their own criteria: R4 for redirects in the "File:" namespace with the same name as a file or redirect at Wikimedia Commons (Discussion), and G14 for disambiguation pages which disambiguate zero pages, or have "(disambiguation)" in the title but disambiguate a single page (Discussion).
 * db-blankdraft was merged into G13 (Discussion)
 * A discussion recently closed with no consensus on whether to create a subject-specific notability guideline for theatrical plays.
 * There is an ongoing discussion on a proposal to create subject-specific notability guidelines for chemicals and organism taxa.


 * Reminders
 * NPR is not a binary keep / delete process. In many cases a redirect may be appropriate. The deletion policy and its associated guideline clearly emphasise that not all unsuitable articles must be deleted. Redirects are not contentious. See a classic example of the templates to use. More templates are listed at the R template index. Reviewers who are not aware, do please take this into consideration before PROD, CSD, and especially AfD  because not even all admins are aware of such policies, and many NAC do not have a full knowledge of them.


 * NPP Tools Report
 * Superlinks – allows you to check an article's history, logs, talk page, NPP flowchart (on unpatrolled pages) and more without navigating away from the article itself.
 * copyvio-check – automatically checks the copyvio percentage of new pages in the background and displays this info with a link to the report in the 'info' panel of the Page curation toolbar.
 * The NPP flowchart now has clickable hyperlinks.

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Ben Sharpiro- Okay this is EPIC

Sam Ard edit
To Willsome 429,

You have removed several of my edits that attempt to flesh out the career stats on this Nascar Hall of Fame nominee.

In doing so, you've removed important factual information on Sam's wins and finishes, sourced from thethirdturn.com (Nascar records are incomplete). Please explain.

You replaced my edits with false, misleading statement: "Before Late Model Sportsman became an official Nascar division", and incomplete, ambiguous win/finish information. Please explain.

Late Model Sportsman IS an official Nascar National Championship division beginning 1950 until it was replaced by a touring series: "Budweiser Late Model", later "Busch Grand National", later "Busch", later "Nationwide", now Xfinity".

From 1950-present, LMS has been one of Nascar's three "national"series... originally the three were Grand National, Late Model Sportsman and Modified, now its Cup, Xfinity and trucks.

Please restore Sam's detailed LMS win record as I presented it. If you wish to verify each line item, go to thethirdturn.com, check Late Model Sportsman results for each of the years listed.

Thanks, MikeJoy500 (talk) 14:35, 22 March 2019 (UTC) Nascar Hall of Fame nominating committee member & voting committee member.


 * Hi Mike, and thanks for your concern. To address a couple of your points:


 * Wikipedia content must be backed up with reliable sources. The linked page explicitly excludes fan-generated sites such as Wikia, which is the platform The Third Turn is based on. In relation to other editors, I’m doing a nice compromise, as many editors would have removed all the content. Instead, I edited prose to bring the content up to Wikipedia standards and kept the content, which was a cleaner summary to the (still incomplete) Third Turn results. If there are reliable sources that back Ard’s record (FOX/NBC, nascar.com, etc.) please add them.
 * For better or for worse, Wikipedia only recognizes what is now the Xfinity Series as a national touring series since 1982, and henceforth my wording, as Wikipedia recognizes Ard as the inaugural Xfinity Series champion.

To close, I really can’t restore your edits without risk of another editor removing it, and I feel like the compromise I made was the best way to navigate the issue. If you want to start a wider discussion on the LMS/Xfinity divide, you can start a new discussion at WT:NASCAR. Regards,  Willsome 4 29  (say hey or see my edits!) 17:03, 22 March 2019 (UTC)

I have unreviewed a page you curated
Hi, I'm John from Idegon. I wanted to let you know that I saw the page you reviewed, Jordan Smallwood (American football), and have marked it as unpatrolled. If you have any questions, please ask them on my talk page. Thank you.

Message delivered via the Page Curation tool, on behalf of the reviewer.

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Why did you change my user page 3 hours ago?
99721829Max (talk) 17:55, 23 April 2019 (UTC)

Because talk pages are separated by topic; user warnings are separate than pieces of advice. It’s for organizational purposes and to make things clearer for others reading your talk page. Thanks!  Willsome 4 29  (say hey or see my edits!) 18:04, 23 April 2019 (UTC)

Why did you edit Vizion Motorsports an hour after I edited it?
99721829Max (talk) 16:11, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Read my edit summary. It explains it all.  Willsome 4 29  (say hey or see my edits!) 17:14, 26 April 2019 (UTC)

What is WP:NMOTORSPORT?
99721829Max (talk) 16:12, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
 * You linked it in the section title. Read it, please, and then come back to me if you have any questions.  Willsome 4 29  (say hey or see my edits!) 17:14, 26 April 2019 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Chandler Cox


The article Chandler Cox has been proposed for deletion because it appears to have no references. Under Wikipedia policy, this biography of a living person will be deleted after seven days unless it has at least one reference to a reliable source that directly supports material in the article.

If you created the article, please don't be offended. Instead, consider improving the article. For help on inserting references, see Referencing for beginners, or ask at the help desk. Once you have provided at least one reliable source, you may remove the prod blp/dated tag. Please do not remove the tag unless the article is sourced. If you cannot provide such a source within seven days, the article may be deleted, but you can when you are ready to add one. SSSB (talk) 21:45, 27 April 2019 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Nick Allegretti


The article Nick Allegretti has been proposed for deletion because it appears to have no references. Under Wikipedia policy, this biography of a living person will be deleted after seven days unless it has at least one reference to a reliable source that directly supports material in the article.

If you created the article, please don't be offended. Instead, consider improving the article. For help on inserting references, see Referencing for beginners, or ask at the help desk. Once you have provided at least one reliable source, you may remove the prod blp/dated tag. Please do not remove the tag unless the article is sourced. If you cannot provide such a source within seven days, the article may be deleted, but you can when you are ready to add one. SSSB (talk) 22:00, 27 April 2019 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Dennis Daley


The article Dennis Daley has been proposed for deletion because it appears to have no references. Under Wikipedia policy, this biography of a living person will be deleted after seven days unless it has at least one reference to a reliable source that directly supports material in the article.

If you created the article, please don't be offended. Instead, consider improving the article. For help on inserting references, see Referencing for beginners, or ask at the help desk. Once you have provided at least one reliable source, you may remove the prod blp/dated tag. Please do not remove the tag unless the article is sourced. If you cannot provide such a source within seven days, the article may be deleted, but you can when you are ready to add one. SSSB (talk) 22:00, 27 April 2019 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Deshaun Davis


The article Deshaun Davis has been proposed for deletion because it appears to have no references. Under Wikipedia policy, this biography of a living person will be deleted after seven days unless it has at least one reference to a reliable source that directly supports material in the article.

If you created the article, please don't be offended. Instead, consider improving the article. For help on inserting references, see Referencing for beginners, or ask at the help desk. Once you have provided at least one reliable source, you may remove the prod blp/dated tag. Please do not remove the tag unless the article is sourced. If you cannot provide such a source within seven days, the article may be deleted, but you can when you are ready to add one. SSSB (talk) 22:03, 27 April 2019 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Demarcus Christmas


The article Demarcus Christmas has been proposed for deletion because it appears to have no references. Under Wikipedia policy, this biography of a living person will be deleted after seven days unless it has at least one reference to a reliable source that directly supports material in the article.

If you created the article, please don't be offended. Instead, consider improving the article. For help on inserting references, see Referencing for beginners, or ask at the help desk. Once you have provided at least one reliable source, you may remove the prod blp/dated tag. Please do not remove the tag unless the article is sourced. If you cannot provide such a source within seven days, the article may be deleted, but you can when you are ready to add one. SSSB (talk) 22:04, 27 April 2019 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Emeke Egbule


The article Emeke Egbule has been proposed for deletion because it appears to have no references. Under Wikipedia policy, this biography of a living person will be deleted after seven days unless it has at least one reference to a reliable source that directly supports material in the article.

If you created the article, please don't be offended. Instead, consider improving the article. For help on inserting references, see Referencing for beginners, or ask at the help desk. Once you have provided at least one reliable source, you may remove the prod blp/dated tag. Please do not remove the tag unless the article is sourced. If you cannot provide such a source within seven days, the article may be deleted, but you can when you are ready to add one. SSSB (talk) 22:04, 27 April 2019 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Austin Seibert


The article Austin Seibert has been proposed for deletion because it appears to have no references. Under Wikipedia policy, this biography of a living person will be deleted after seven days unless it has at least one reference to a reliable source that directly supports material in the article.

If you created the article, please don't be offended. Instead, consider improving the article. For help on inserting references, see Referencing for beginners, or ask at the help desk. Once you have provided at least one reliable source, you may remove the prod blp/dated tag. Please do not remove the tag unless the article is sourced. If you cannot provide such a source within seven days, the article may be deleted, but you can when you are ready to add one. SSSB (talk) 22:05, 27 April 2019 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Cole Holcomb


The article Cole Holcomb has been proposed for deletion because it appears to have no references. Under Wikipedia policy, this biography of a living person will be deleted after seven days unless it has at least one reference to a reliable source that directly supports material in the article.

If you created the article, please don't be offended. Instead, consider improving the article. For help on inserting references, see Referencing for beginners, or ask at the help desk. Once you have provided at least one reliable source, you may remove the prod blp/dated tag. Please do not remove the tag unless the article is sourced. If you cannot provide such a source within seven days, the article may be deleted, but you can when you are ready to add one. SSSB (talk) 22:06, 27 April 2019 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Daylon Mack


The article Daylon Mack has been proposed for deletion because it appears to have no references. Under Wikipedia policy, this biography of a living person will be deleted after seven days unless it has at least one reference to a reliable source that directly supports material in the article.

If you created the article, please don't be offended. Instead, consider improving the article. For help on inserting references, see Referencing for beginners, or ask at the help desk. Once you have provided at least one reliable source, you may remove the prod blp/dated tag. Please do not remove the tag unless the article is sourced. If you cannot provide such a source within seven days, the article may be deleted, but you can when you are ready to add one. SSSB (talk) 22:06, 27 April 2019 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Ryan Connelly


The article Ryan Connelly has been proposed for deletion because it appears to have no references. Under Wikipedia policy, this biography of a living person will be deleted after seven days unless it has at least one reference to a reliable source that directly supports material in the article.

If you created the article, please don't be offended. Instead, consider improving the article. For help on inserting references, see Referencing for beginners, or ask at the help desk. Once you have provided at least one reliable source, you may remove the prod blp/dated tag. Please do not remove the tag unless the article is sourced. If you cannot provide such a source within seven days, the article may be deleted, but you can when you are ready to add one. SSSB (talk) 22:06, 27 April 2019 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Dre Greenlaw


The article Dre Greenlaw has been proposed for deletion because it appears to have no references. Under Wikipedia policy, this biography of a living person will be deleted after seven days unless it has at least one reference to a reliable source that directly supports material in the article.

If you created the article, please don't be offended. Instead, consider improving the article. For help on inserting references, see Referencing for beginners, or ask at the help desk. Once you have provided at least one reliable source, you may remove the prod blp/dated tag. Please do not remove the tag unless the article is sourced. If you cannot provide such a source within seven days, the article may be deleted, but you can when you are ready to add one. SSSB (talk) 22:07, 27 April 2019 (UTC)

Juan Manuel González (racing driver) edit
Could you please edit Juan Manuel Gonzalez (racing driver)'s driving stats please? Thanks! 99721829Max (talk) 19:00, 29 April 2019 (UTC)

Recent Edit (Justin Sumpter)
In regards to your recent edit on Justin Sumpter's page, Sumpter is a member of the LA Rams not the Titans. He was offered an invite to camp by Tennessee but he did not sign with them. As you can see on his various social media accounts, he is a member of the LA Rams. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Boomtower (talk • contribs) 02:04, 30 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Per WP:V, a third-party source is needed to confirm. And while the Journal did not explicitly say that he accepted the invitation, it did say that he became the second Owl to sign, strongly implying that Mr. Sumpter did indeed take up Tennessee. If you have a third-party source that says that he is on the Rams, feel free to add it and change the content accordingly. Regards,  Willsome 4 29  (say hey or see my edits!) 02:14, 30 April 2019 (UTC)

NPR Newsletter No.18


Hello ,

, a product manager for the growth team, announced that work is underway in implementing improvements to New Page Patrol as part of the 2019 Community Wishlist and suggests all who are interested watch the project page on meta. Two requested improvements have already been completed. These are:
 * WMF at work on NPP Improvements
 * Allow filtering by no citations in page curation
 * Not having CSD and PRODs automatically marked as reviewed, reflecting current consensus among reviewers and current Twinkle functionality.

has been compiling a list of reliable sources across countries and industries that can be used by new page patrollers to help judge whether an article topic is notable or not. At this point further discussion is needed about if and how this list should be used. Please consider joining the discussion about how this potentially valuable resource should be developed and used.
 * Reliable Sources for NPP

Look for information on the an upcoming backlog drive in our next newsletter. If you'd like to help plan this drive, join in the discussion on the New Page Patrol talk page.
 * Backlog drive coming soon


 * News
 * Following a request for comment, the subject-specific notability guideline for pornographic actors and models (WP:PORNBIO) was removed; in its place, editors should consult WP:ENT and WP:GNG.


 * Discussions of interest
 * A request for bot approval for a bot to patrol two kinds of redirects
 * There has been a lot discussion about Notability of Academics
 * What, if anything, would a SNG for Softball look like

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Work together. Stop mass deleting.
I didn't plagarize. And It isn't promotion. There are countless external links. Take a look at all the external links. I know you are very self important editing on Wikipedia, but I am following the rules as outlined by the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability_(organizations_and_companies). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dallas.jackson.spsx (talk • contribs) 14:46, 4 June 2019 (UTC)


 * Hi Dallas, and thank you for reaching out. Here are the grounds on which I based my decision to overturn your edits:


 * Plagiarism: the Superior Essex website is a copyrighted source, so text cannot be copied from the website.
 * Reliable sources: the Superior Essex website is not independent of the company itself, obviously. Content backed by sources published by the company should not be used.
 * Neutral point of view: the blurbs from the Superior Essex website read like an ad - because it is supposed to be one. Wikipedia, however, is not supposed to be one.
 * Conflict of interest: your username and above statement give the impression that you are connected to and are potentially being paid by Superior Essex for your contributions. Please note that Wikipedia expects all editors to disclose all conflicts of interest, paid and unpaid, on either your user page or user talk page. Editing pages that you have a connection to is strongly discouraged.

Right now, there is little salvageable from your contributions that have both reliable sources and a neutral point of view. If you would like to try and refine your edits, go ahead and then I will see if I can salvage more. Please remember, however, that more advertising and promotion may lead to a block. Unfortunately, the guideline that you used as a baseline has no applicability here. The notability of Superior Essex was never in doubt, rendering that guideline invalid in this scenario. Regards,  Willsome 4 29  (say hey or see my edits!) 15:55, 4 June 2019 (UTC)


 * There are source links to CNN, MarketWatch, Rueters, Money, BusinessWire, International Living Future, The US GOVERNMENT, AccuTech, and many other sources to back up the content on that page. Did you even look at it?

There are also internal links to product data sheets, which are very common on industry pages on wikipedia. There are also citations to internal links to show where the material came from.

It is not different from how most every other business page on Wikipedia is written. I don't know why you are hard up on these edits but all are within the same standard that other pages use. Thanks for your feedback. I will do my best to make additional changes, but please stop deleting what is being added because the additions all have citations.

If you have a specific question, please ask it before you delete further. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dallas.jackson.spsx (talk • contribs) 18:35, 4 June 2019 (UTC)


 * I am not trying to do anything other than create the business Wiki page. If you are going to spend this much time making my edits, please feel free to make actual edits and not just delete. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dallas.jackson.spsx (talk • contribs) 18:37, 4 June 2019 (UTC)


 * would welcome anything constructive and specific as to what you believe is advertorial? instead of a mass deletion, how about being specific so that it can be addressed. Dallas.jackson.spsx (talk) 18:42, 4 June 2019 (UTC)


 * Unfortunately, this is different than most business pages on Wikipedia. There was already a page for Superior Essex, and while it had its flaws, it was a suitable page for the encyclopedia. Copy-pasting work and adding blatant promotion is not suitable for Wikipedia. Instead, content must follow a neutral point of view, which does not read like an ad. Words like "leading", "biggest", and boasting about the company should be removed. Sections copy-pasted from the website should be removed or completely rewritten to erase any traces of plagiarism, and done so without the use of any first-person pronouns such as "ours". Simply because WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS doesn't mean it should, as in the case of the internal references. If you rewrite with a neutral tone and only outside sources, the content may stand.  Willsome 4 29  (say hey or see my edits!) 18:53, 4 June 2019 (UTC)

Galesville, Wisconsin
I reverted your recent addition to that article. I'd suggest you write that high school article. It isn't at all hard and I'll be glad to help. John from Idegon (talk) 01:40, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the follow-up and advice. If/when I write the article, I’ll run it past you for further improvement.  Willsome 4 29  (say hey or see my edits!) 04:27, 10 June 2019 (UTC)

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TheFamousPeople.com as a source
Hi Willsome429. I noticed that you recently used thefamouspeople.com as a source for biographical information in Eden Prairie High School. Please note that there is general consensus that thefamouspeople.com does not meet the reliable sourcing criteria for such information. (Discussions here and here). If you disagree, let's discuss it. Thanks. --Ronz (talk) 16:06, 25 June 2019 (UTC)
 * My apologies. I didn’t realize there had been discussions about it.  Willsome 4 29  (say hey or see my edits!) 16:55, 25 June 2019 (UTC)

New Page Review newsletter July-August 2019


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Why did you revert my move on Leonard Wood (racing)?
It should have been Leonard Wood (team owner) or something like that because he doesn't race, he is a team owner. 99721829Max (talk) 20:56, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
 * ”Racing” does not mean he is a driver. It means he is involved with the sport of racing. And we like to keep page titles broad, as you can see from the number of pages that say “racing driver” instead of “NASCAR driver” because NASCAR is not everything.  Willsome 4 29  (say hey or see my edits!) 21:10, 9 July 2019 (UTC)

Your edits to Leonard Wood (racing)
Why did you revert my edits on Wikipedia as a source on the article? 99721829Max (talk) 16:59, 12 July 2019 (UTC)
 * See WP:CIRCULAR.  Willsome 4 29  (say hey or see my edits!) 17:03, 12 July 2019 (UTC)

Rollback rights
Hey, I’m 99721829Max, I want rollback rights on the English Wikipedia. How am I going to have rights for that? 99721829Max (talk) 02:18, 24 July 2019 (UTC)


 * Hello? Where’s my reply? 99721829Max (talk) 03:19, 24 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi Max. To attempt to gain rollback rights, apply at WP:PERM/Rollback. And I think it is more than fair to give me more than 61 minutes to respond before you poke with a follow up. What if I’m at work? What if I’m on a long drive? This kind of impatience lands you in hot water in certain areas of the encyclopedia.  Willsome 4 29  (say hey or see my edits!) 03:27, 24 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Sorry. 99721829Max (talk) 03:52, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

Why did you revert my edit on Tim George Jr.?
99721829Max (talk) 01:48, 27 July 2019 (UTC)


 * Because nonexistent categories have no place on pages. It’s not beneficial to swap out existing categories (racing drivers from New York State) for a nonexistent one (racing drivers from Manhattan).  Willsome 4 29  (say hey or see my edits!) 02:14, 27 July 2019 (UTC)

Josh White (racing driver)
https://socalracegirl14.wordpress.com/2019/08/12/nascar-driver-spotlight-josh-white-ready-to-return-to-racing-in-a-big-way/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by NASCAR1 (talk • contribs)


 * Hi Josh, and thank you for bringing your concerns here. Here's where the situation stands: I am not interested in being "your Wikipedia guy", paid or unpaid. I merely reverted your edits because they go against WP:V, which states that all content has to be cited by reliable sources. presumably spent a lot of time building what I consider a quality page, better than the pages for a lot of other drivers on here. As is also stated on your talk page, the Wikipedia conflist of interest policy states that subjects of Wikipedia pages are highly advised not to edit their own pages, and instead encouraged to take their concerns to the talk page, which I will go more in depth there. Thank you for your cooperation.  Willsome 4 29  (say hey or see my edits!) 00:53, 1 August 2019 (UTC)

I dont know who can be more reliable than the dang driver. NASCAR1 (talk) 01:14, 1 August 2019 (UTC)

Most of that wikipedia page, is a lie NASCAR1 (talk) 01:15, 1 August 2019 (UTC)

Its out of date NASCAR1 (talk) 01:15, 1 August 2019 (UTC)

And has incorrect information NASCAR1 (talk) 01:16, 1 August 2019 (UTC)

Credible stuff huh? NASCAR1 (talk) 01:19, 1 August 2019 (UTC)

Pm me on my twitter then. NASCAR1 (talk) 01:20, 1 August 2019 (UTC)

Since thats the only thing you got on there and thats the worst fanbase I have. NASCAR1 (talk) 01:20, 1 August 2019 (UTC)

And you refuse to put and leave my Facebook on there NASCAR1 (talk) 01:21, 1 August 2019 (UTC)

Or email me, joshwhiteracing3@gmail.com NASCAR1 (talk) 01:23, 1 August 2019 (UTC)

Tell ya what man. If Im not who I say I am, then have your way. Make the connection. NASCAR1 (talk) 01:31, 1 August 2019 (UTC)


 * I have continually addressed you as Josh, and I don't doubt that you are the driver. However, there are policies that Wikipedia is tied to, and more likely than not this would've happened eventually with another editor. I would once again like to reiterate that there is, however, an opportunity to potentially change some of what you believe is misinformation. Drop links to sources that back up the information you added (here, on the article's talk page, on your talk page), and I can make it work. Almost every sentence in that article is suppoorted by a citation, so I don't quite know how that much misinformation spread throughout that many different sources, but if you have different sources, I will do my best to make it happen.  Willsome 4 29  (say hey or see my edits!) 01:41, 1 August 2019 (UTC)

Panchiakos GS
Hello Willsome429, I have contested PROD on this article. You may take it to the AfD as the deletion does not appear to be an uncontroversial one. You may want to check the article on Hellenic Wikipedia. Regards. Hitro talk 13:58, 5 August 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for your explanation (2007 Cup Series article)
Hello Willsome429, I think this is how you do this (write back). I'm a new editor so hopefully I got it. This is my first attempt at doing this.

Thanks so much for your comment to me/explanation on the 2007 Cup Series season article as to why you think the crew chiefs who don't have their own articles should still have links on their names (and which will be in red since they don't work). It seems like you know your stuff (you talked about a rule/policy or something I wasn't aware of) and because of that, I'll leave that alone going forward. The only reason I thought they should be removed is because on some of the other more recent seasons (such as this year's), they don't have "red no article links", so just to keep things consistent, I thought I'd do that. I also updated some of the crew chief info because not all of them crew chiefed those teams the whole year according to the Jayski chart and Racing Reference. Just like how it is with all the recent seasons articles where they list multiple CC's and what races they crew chiefed for that team.

I also just read your info page and looks like you've been doing this for quite a while now. I never knew you wrote all those articles about these drivers and football players. Keep up the good work!

Thanks again, Sean Cavanaugh (Cavanaughs)

8/8/19


 * Hi Sean, and welcome. It’s just a matter of me not having a ton of time to red link a lot of stuff as to why, and I see how you could get confused. Again, thank you for your constructive contributions to the page, and as you edit more, don’t be afraid to ask myself or anybody else also working on pages you’re working on for help. You seem to edit about racing a lot, and I’d like to extend the invite to you to join WikiProject NASCAR, a collaboration among editors. When posting on talk pages, don’t forget to sign your posts with four tildes (~) to sign and date it. Happy editing!  Willsome 4 29  (say hey or see my edits!) 16:39, 8 August 2019 (UTC)

Ridgefield High School (Connecticut)
My bad! Somehow I "spaced" the cite in your edit. I did check the article on him and nothing was mentioned there about high school. Cheers... Cuprum17 (talk) 12:41, 13 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Cheers! We’ve all been there before, it’s all good.  Willsome 4 29  (say hey or see my edits!) 12:43, 13 August 2019 (UTC)

Re: improving Cinco fueron escogidos
Thanks. I added some more references by searching through Google Books.--EdgarCabreraFariña (talk) 15:48, 16 August 2019 (UTC)

Listing of withdrawals on 2019 Truck Series standings
Aah, I see. That does seem like a fair agreement/decision. I was using Racing Reference because I knew there were more withdrawals than the one or two that were not deleted after I put them on the first time. Like my edits you explained last time, I again wasn't aware of that "rule", so I waited a week or so and then added them back a week or so later. I feel like in the past I remember seeing all withdrawals listed on past standings (from like 2009 or 2010, which are the first two years on the site which have a complete standings that are the kind used today), but I could be wrong though.

Thank you for explaining again.

Cavanaughs (talk) 16:23, 16 August 2019 (UTC)Cavanaughs

My edit on Ryan Vargas is not a test!!!
I thought the article Ryan Vargas is not a stub, so it's a mistake, not a test edit. 99721829Max (talk) 03:24, 26 August 2019 (UTC)

I've reverted my edits
Dear Willsome, Just wanted to let you know that I did change the edits back in regards to the picture format of the images of the championship 4 drivers from the 2016 and 2017 Xfinity and Truck Series articles. I thought it would be cool to have their pictures in a horizontal row (instead of vertical/down like in numerous other Nascar season articles where there are multiple pictures), but I clearly don't know how to do that yet and as a result there was, as you saw in the 2018 Xfinity and Truck articles, this funky text above each image. Now it's all gone and the pictures of those drivers are shown vertically.

Cavanaughs (talk) 16:31, 28 August 2019 (UTC)Cavanaughs

My edits on all Tyler Hill-related articles
Hey, Willsome429, I'm sorry about my "copy-paste moves" but I had to because I can't move over a redirect. How do you do that? 99721829Max (talk) 19:39, 28 August 2019 (UTC)


 * You're missing the point. Credit due to the racing driver, but he's not the main topic of Tyler Hill, as Tyler Hill Camp has more pageviews in the past 30 days. I don't think we should look at moving this particular set of pages until he becomes full-time or at the very least picks up races at a more frequent rate, presumably leading to more page views.  Willsome 4 29  (say hey or see my edits!) 19:50, 28 August 2019 (UTC)


 * Thank you for letting me know. 99721829Max (talk) 19:52, 28 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Actually, Willsome429, the racer currently has the most 30 day page views of all the pages on the disambiguation page. I use the Xools gadget (the last gadget in the appearance section of Special:Preferences) which comes in handy in these situations. I would probably prefer, if anything, to move the disambig page to the main page. -- Dolotta (talk) 20:39, 28 August 2019 (UTC)
 * That being said, the differernce isn't all that different at this point and I do not have very strong feelings on the matter. -- Dolotta (talk) 20:42, 28 August 2019 (UTC)
 * I also have XTools turned on, which for me showed that the camp had a few more 30-day pageviews than the racing driver. I too believe that moving the dab page to “Tyler Hill” would be the best idea.  Willsome 4 29  (say hey or see my edits!) 12:16, 29 August 2019 (UTC)

Mike Peters rugby player
Hi, can you talk me through why you stopped my page about an ex professional rugby player local to me being published and how I can successfully get it done please? I’m not tech-savvy so your help is much appreciated- Greg 👍 Warriorwolfraven (talk) 13:03, 2 September 2019 (UTC)

Hi, I have multiple screenshots from Google that lead to websites with articles, data and images of Mike Peters (rugby player) etc and here are some of the links that come up on Google

https://www.themightybean.com/extremelydangerous.htm

https://www.wigantoday.net/news/blind-ex-rugby-star-running-for-best-friend-1-8731238/amp

http://bridgendravens.co.uk/player/?PersonId=120061

http://www.rugbyleagueproject.org/players/mike-peters/summary.html

https://forums.rlfans.com/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=608156

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Warrington_Wolves_players

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/rugbyleague/4759715/Wigan-back-on-track.html

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_league/836626.stm

https://www.espn.co.uk/rugby/story/_/id/15349328/warlow-gets-drop-cardiff

Warriorwolfraven (talk) 13:43, 2 September 2019 (UTC)


 * Hi Greg, and thanks for reaching out. I did not stop the page, I just rerouted it. The main issues that I found were that there were no sources and that there were myriad manual of style issues. It wasn’t ready for the main space yet, so I moved it to Draft space, where you can work on it without it getting deleted. I’m not particularly interested in rugby, so I’m not going to develop the page for you, but read this for information on citing sources and this for information on how to make your article look like a Wikipedia page. Once you have developed the page to your liking, submit it for review (there should be a button on the page) and a reviewer will either accept it or give the page more feedback. Regards,  Willsome 4 29  (say hey or see my edits!) 15:50, 2 September 2019 (UTC)

I have sent you a note about a page you started
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Speedy deletion nomination of Dustin Skinner


A tag has been placed on Dustin Skinner requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G4 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page appears to be a repost of material that was previously deleted following a deletion discussion, such as at Articles for deletion. When a page has substantially identical content to that of a page deleted after a discussion, and any changes in the content do not address the reasons for which the material was previously deleted, it may be deleted at any time.

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Dustin Skinner edit
I put the CSD template there because the article was recently deleted per a deletion discussion. 99721829Max (talk) 01:22, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Your reasoning shows a grave lack of understanding in the area. The G4 deletion rationale is for pages similar to those deleted before. The deleted page had one sentence. This one has eight sources. Please stop this disruptive editing immediately and take some time to read and learn so that you use CSD (and Twinkle in general) correctly. I would also strongly suggest reading AfD primers after your recent South Fork adventure that caused quite a bit of confusion.  Willsome 4 29  (say hey or see my edits!) 01:24, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

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see my edits
hi,i edited Mohammad salimi (TV presenter) he is popular TV presenter in iran. all reference is persian language. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mohammadcmpir (talk • contribs) 13:12, 13 September 2019 (UTC)

Draft:Sipho Mdingi
There are so many articles with few citations but are kept as a stub. Why do you remove articles I write — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tripple666 (talk • contribs) 00:42, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Hello, and thanks for reaching out. I'd like to clear up a couple points. First off, I did not remove your article, per se, I redirected it instead. Contrary to what you may think, I did not redirect the article because it was about an African, or because you are a new editor. Like the talk page message said, the page was undersourced to me. The TVSA bio backed up some information, and the other source was hidden to me because I'm not subscribed to the magazine. If there are "quite numerous citations", feel free to add them in to the page and the folks at Articles for Creation will help you out from there. And as for other articles including sources from not-so-great websites, see WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS - editors should continue to try and strive for a high bar, as if we aim low, the quality will continue to slip. I can't do a quality control check of the entire 5,850,000 pages on the encyclopedia, but I try to keep my tiny slice of it well-maintained. I hope that answers all your questions and concerns, and if you have any more, feel free to leave them below. Regards,  Willsome 4 29  (say hey or see my edits!) 01:16, 16 September 2019 (UTC)

Good morning!
Thank you for getting back at me. So it is therefore recommendable to go with one citation on Sipho? Tripple666 (talk) 04:47, 16 September 2019 (UTC)