User talk:WilyD/Archives/2008/May

Could you please weigh in on a living person Fair Use debate?
Hi WilyD. I am helping another editor to try and get the Michael Jackson article up to the point where it might qualify for FA status. We believe we may have a pretty good case to use an older non-free photo of Jackson, despite the fact that he is a living person. See Image talk:Jackson orban photo.jpg.

Since the eventual goal is FA, we want to be completely transparent here. I am pretty sure that since I actually gave an attempt at fair use rationale (unlike most non-free images that get uploaded to Wikipedia), I think the image stands a good chance at flying under the radar for quite some time without getting noticed ;) But that is not my intention.  As I said, I believe we have a solid rationale for this fair use exception, and I would like to get our reasoning vetted.

So, if you would not mind, could you take a look at Image talk:Jackson orban photo.jpg and weigh in? And one last request, if you do end up deleting the image, please either give me a chance to archive the discussion or else copy the talk page to my user space. I suspect that our fundamental premise may be sound, but this image may be a bad choice, and if so I want to preserve the discussion.

Thanks!!! --Jaysweet (talk) 14:47, 6 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Thank you very much! I appreciate your input. --Jaysweet (talk) 15:09, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Peter Jones
The article is currently at Peter Jones (Ojibway Methodist minister) - do you think a move to Peter Jones (Ojibwa Methodist minister) makes sense, if you prefer that spelling? Do you have some impression of how hard it's preferred? Jones himself spelt it "Ojebway" - I'm not sure if this is of interest. Wily D 19:27, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Up to you on the move, but for consistancy, I would recommend it. "Chippewa" is the preferred in the US, "Ojibwa" in Canada, but "Ojibwe" among educators.  In Wikipedia, we have basically have been using "Ojibwe" to mean the language (unless specifically stating as "Ojibwe language"), "Ojibwa" to mean people, and Ojibwe/Ojibwa(y)/Chippewa(y) spellings only if it is in their legal name.  Alternatively, you could rename the article as Peter Jones (minister, chief and missionary).  As the person who put in the most effort into the article, you choose. CJLippert (talk) 20:14, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
 * p.s.: the "centralized discussion" talk lead me to not your user_talk but instead to the template's talk (and I didn't realise that it did until posting, so I ended up unposting and moving it here). CJLippert (talk) 20:23, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Barnstar thank you
Dear WilyD, I sincerely appreciate the barnstar which you awarded me. I am truly honored. Bstone (talk) 13:29, 6 May 2008 (UTC)


 * I wonder if you might take a visit to WP:TOV and see about supporting it to become a guideline? Bstone (talk) 23:13, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Block
Did I make the right call here with an indef block? (Sorry, I'm still a new admin...) Seraphim&hearts;  Whipp  15:23, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Friendly notice of ANI discussion
FYI. Bstone (talk) 22:20, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Noindexing Talk Spaces
Looks like we're getting pretty broad approval there. Are we going to formally propose this soon? Thanks.--Pharos (talk) 18:03, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Nice strawman
Check my contribution history to see what I'm talking about. 62.106.48.110 (talk) 22:12, 9 May 2008 (UTC)