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Lead FAC
Maybe more about how it's produced in a factory? I'm no chemist though. I'll try to think of more. — Rlevse  •  Talk  • 22:40, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I've asked Bduke about this, he's a chemist/science type like you. — Rlevse  •  Talk  • 18:04, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Scouting WikiProject in the Signpost
We'll be in the Signpost on Wednesday, 2 Jan about 17:00 UTC, someone noticed us, be sure to read it, many of us get it, read it on my talk page if you like. — Rlevse  •  Talk  • 02:00, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for drawing attention to it: I'm a subscriber myself (see my nice sidebar on this talkpage).  Wim van Dorst  (talk)  13:27, 2 January 2008 (UTC).

FAC review
I'd be most grateful if you'd review Sid Barnes at FAC. Even (especially) if you know nothing about cricket. Thanks in anticipation! --Dweller (talk) 12:49, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

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Score on lead(II) nitrate
Support: 6 Weak support: 1 Weak oppose: 3 Oppose: 1 Timestamp:  Wim van Dorst  (talk)  11:22, 19 January 2008 (UTC).
 * Congratulations, Wim! Walkerma (talk) 22:56, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Congratulations, Wim. I'm glad to see that all of your work was recognised with a consensus for re-promotion.  I'd be happy to work with you in other areas in the future. :) EdChem (talk) 09:47, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks, guys. I'm now going to focus on sodium sulfate, after all. Dig in: there are quite some recommendations left in the GA reviews (see the article history).  Wim van Dorst  (talk)  20:41, 23 January 2008 (UTC).

E. Urner Goodman
Could you look at this and see what you think it needs for Aclass? Leave on talk there or edit as you like. — Rlevse  •  Talk  • 11:18, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Diketene
The article is all about one specific compound, with formula C4H4O2. It mentions substituted diketenes in passing, but I'm sure that benzene also mentions substituted benzenes in passing and that doesn't make it "not a chemical compound". --Itub (talk) 09:24, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Hi Itub, thanks for keeping an eye on all those assessments that I do for WP:Chem. After re-reading the (now clearer) article, I can see you're right. Adjusted.  Wim van Dorst  (talk)  19:44, 21 January 2008 (UTC).

Returning
After much thought and deliberation I have decided to return. Many wikians contacted me by various means and I truly appreciate the support from all of them. Man, did I need that wiki break! I have learned from it and will use the experience to improve. — Rlevse  •  Talk  • 22:05, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes, I'd already seen that. Congrat on reaching 123rd ;-).  Wim van Dorst  (talk)  22:07, 21 January 2008 (UTC).

Scouting template
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Your code
Did you know your code is making your script page show here: Category:Unassessed_Scouting_articles? Ok with me if ok with you. — Rlevse  •  Talk  • 11:05, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I didn't know, and I'm sure it didn't before, otherwise I'd seen it in the WP:Chem category for unassessed articles that I'm active working on: I had already done the W. The point is now fixed (well, kludged is a more appropriate term). Thanks for pointing it out.  Wim van Dorst  (talk)  23:01, 6 February 2008 (UTC).

Petrus Jacobus Kipp
I was thinking of writing an article about Petrus Jacobus Kipp to turn the red link in Kipp apparatus into a blue one. I found that information in English is relatively limited, but there is already a long article about him in the Dutch Wikipedia (Petrus Jacobus Kipp). I don't know if this kind of project interests you, but if it does perhaps you could translate the article into English? My reading skills in Dutch are approximately zero (although I could give Google translation a try ;-). Cheers, Itub (talk) 10:50, 7 February 2008 (UTC).
 * Fun assignment ;-). Now feel free to carry it further.  Wim van Dorst  (talk)  21:47, 8 February 2008 (UTC).


 * Thanks! It is a very interesting article, now that I can read it! :) --Itub (talk) 07:51, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

Review
We want to get William Hillcourt to FA, could you give it a look over? — Rlevse  •  Talk  • 03:25, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Looks good to me. Would get my FA support without problems. Attention point might be the list of reference which are mostly websites and vary vague references in books (but you have to know the books to be able to assess this).  Wim van Dorst  (talk)  22:47, 20 February 2008 (UTC).
 * Do you want to vote for it ;-) — Rlevse  •  Talk  • 23:31, 20 February 2008 (UTC)


 * It made it to FA! — Rlevse  •  Talk  • 11:24, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Congrats: I was otherwise engaged for a couple of days, and lo and behold!  Wim van Dorst  (talk)  22:55, 26 February 2008 (UTC).

Piet
Was Piet J. Kroonenberg born May 9, 1926 in Amsterdam? Is he still alive? Is there enough info on him to get this to FA? — Rlevse  •  Talk  • 18:16, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
 * As far as I know, indeed Piet is still alive. I recall to have even found him (last time I looked to fill the stub article) in the phonebook for a not far away town. The date of 1926-05-09 is the date he used in his autobiography, where he did not identify himself (Codename 'J') about the war years. I have not found corroboration that he really himself is born then. Creating an FA out of it, is daunting. It would be different if I actually knew him personally: then I'd simply would visit him and ask his life's story. And no, there's not enough public information to make this article even B-class.  Wim van Dorst  (talk)  22:44, 20 February 2008 (UTC).
 * Too bad, his story fascinates me. — Rlevse  •  Talk  • 23:31, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Aluminium hydride
Hi there,

I just chanced upon your note for me last year! I must apologize that I didn't see it earlier. I'm not sure what you mean to say. I'm guessing it has something to do with tagging talk pages. Can you clarify your comment please? Thanks. --Rifleman 82 (talk) 17:11, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Hi Rifleman, I think the remark was a surreptitious compliment after a spur of your edits. I probably did some re-rating, including the aluminium hydride article, and was nicely impressed with it, so I included the recommendation to look at the A-Class requirements suggesting that you'd go on with it. And perhaps the A-Class review has started now: Axiosaurus has added some more detailed recommendations for improvement. Go for it!  Wim van Dorst  (talk)  22:05, 22 February 2008 (UTC).
 * Ah, I see. Thanks for the compliment, and yes, I will see what we can do with potential A-class articles! --Rifleman 82 (talk) 03:28, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

Sulphadoxine
All that category updating looks great! Is it supposed to be on the talk page, or the article itself? Eleven even (talk) 05:46, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Hi Eleven even. Yes, all meta-information about an article should not be in the article itself, but elsewhere, mostly on the talkpage. I do WikiProject Chemicals (aka WP:Chem) assessment for several years now, actually, our WikiProject was one of the first to do so. You just need a good grasp of the wikiproject subject to estimate the articles importance in the field, and reasonable experience in WP to assess the current quality status of the article. Join any wikiproject of your interest and start working: your effort will always be appreciated.  Wim van Dorst  (talk)  14:08, 1 March 2008 (UTC).

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my WikiCommons identity
Herewith I assert that I am the same user as commons:user:Wimvandorst. Wim van Dorst (Talk)'' 16:25, 25 February 2007 (UTC).

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 * Thanks for pointing out this opportunity for improvement. I took the bait.  Wim van Dorst  (talk)  21:43, 7 May 2008 (UTC).

Reassessment
Hi Wim

I saw your recent post at WT:CHEM. I've gone through some articles as you've suggested, and I think the following may not be deserving of a stub-class:
 * meta-Chloroperoxybenzoic acid: agree, Start now
 * Butanone: has only one section and that isn't even chemistry: keep at Stub
 * Caesium_hydroxide: not even any section: keep at stub
 * Diethanolamine: Not enough chemistry for a start
 * Polybutadiene: agree, Start now
 * Trisodium phosphate: agree, Start now. Although very meagre in no of sections, there's enough chemistry is the paragraph to warrant Start.

Would you like to reassess them? --Rifleman 82 (talk) 18:46, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Hi Rifleman, the important point to notice is that I'm assessing against the WP:Chem assessment rules, and not giving a general article assessment. Indeed the articles that you point out are generally speaking beyond stub status, but regarind the Chemicals content, most are very stubby. Yet, I upgraded three on your recommendations.  Wim van Dorst  (talk)  21:13, 9 May 2008 (UTC).


 * Thanks for the clarification. Our assessment rules is something I've seen before yet forgotten about. Thanks. --Rifleman 82 (talk) 06:25, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

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Bisphenol A assessment
Hi Wimvandorst. I noticed that you recently updated the assessment of Bisphenol A from start class to B. I'm wondering if you can tell me what it would take to get it up to A class. I've been around WP for a while, working on and improving articles that interest me, but I've never paid much attention to article ratings nor I have ever before made a specific effort to move an article up the quality scale. But anyways, I've put a bit of work into this article recently, so I'm thinking it might be nice to get it to A class if possible. Please let me know what you think it needs. Thanks. Yilloslime (t) 01:11, 7 June 2008 (UTC) If you would like to more detailed recommendations, feel free to ask. I've added some script-derived info to the talk page too.  Wim van Dorst  (talk)  20:54, 9 June 2008 (UTC).
 * Hi Yilloslime, I was off-line for some time, so sorry that I didn't answer any sooner. The article assessment work that I do is specifically for WP:Chem, so there you can find the improvement suggestions, e.g., in it's assessment rules or in example articles, already A-Class. Specifically for the Bisphenol A article, I would recommend:
 * more chemistry, notably in the Synthesis section. Better even to improve it up to a full Chemistry section.
 * The Use section could do with fleshing out
 * Production numbers (tonnes per annum-line data, etc)
 * Adding information to a new Safety section, providing handling recommendation and such. The other health info could fall under such a section too.


 * Thanks for the advice. Production numbers are already in there--is there something more you are looking for? As for chemistry, I'm currently without ChemDraw, so I can't add much of anything useful. However, the most import rxn of BPA, at least terms of production volume, is its polymerization into polycarbonate plastic, and that rxn is already covered in great detail over at Polycarbonate, so it's seems redundant to go into detail on it in the BPA article. How should this be handled? Thanks, Yilloslime (t) 04:53, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
 * The notable missing thing is chemistry! Much more can be said about the chemical (and physical) properties of the product. The formation of polycarbonate is just one of the possible reaction products. Production data is IMHO rather limited. You could (if data is available, of course): is it growing, declining, why, two which market sold (or captive use), how did it do over the years, how much into which application, etc. Also the other applications. All in all, there's a lot you can add. Go ahead, be bold.  Wim van Dorst  (talk)  22:56, 10 June 2008 (UTC).

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Jan van Hoof
Wim and Egel...I've chosen this for the Scouting Portal Biography of the month. I thought you both may like to clean it up and add to it for this occasion. It's English grammar could use some work too-I worked a tiny bit on that. Thanks, hope you can help here. — Rlevse  •  Talk  • 12:39, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

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Bcrat
Hi Wim! I'm a bureaucrat now here on en.wiki. Let me know if you need anything. Have you considered becoming an admin? — Rlevse  •  Talk  • 00:45, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

FAR again
Hey there. If you're around, perhaps you could ping Featured article review/Hydrochloric acid and tell us if you plan to continue work. It does still have a ways ago but I noticed you put in some work. Cheers, Marskell (talk) 11:01, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Great work! One article in the chemistry section stil a FA one!--Stone (talk) 21:00, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

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GA-Class on WP:Chem
Hi Wim, I'm a bit confused by your comments at Ammonia. Our assessment scheme certainly predates WP:GA, and a "good article" is not necessarily A-class, but it seems silly not to include the good articles in our assessment. Ammonia is a case in point: until yesterday, I hadn't even realised it was on the good articles list, although I'm aware that the FA bigots have blocked it three times now, more fool them. Martin makes the point very well when he says that GA is a different assessment from the WikiProject assessment, looking at different points (in particular, the adherence to WP guidelines, but not to the obsessive level that it's taken on WP:FAC). If our assessment are meant to be pro-active in encouraging users to improve articles (both scientifically and in their adherence to house style), we ought to indicate those articles which are both A-class and GA. We already use this data on Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Chemicals articles by quality statistics, and indeed a general refusal to list articles as GA standard might possibly restrict the coverage of chemistry on WP1.0 (although I'm sure Martin will fight against such a consequence!) I look forward to your comments. Physchim62 (talk) 19:05, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Hi PC, indeed our assessment scheme predates the GA-classification. It was even used as the basis for the more general article assessment scheme currently being used by many other wikiprojects. It has always been a well-balanced method to indicate article quality within our WikiProject. As I strictly assess articles only against WP:Chem article standard (e.g., an A-Class article in the Biology wikiproject can easily be Stub-class in WP:Chem), there is IMHO no need to add additional levels, such as GA-class or the newer C-Class either. As such I'm adhering to the scheme that we agreed on way back when, and there're no GA or C Classes in that. Simple. Actually I merely see the GA-label and the FA-label as certification that an article is really a well-done B-Class or A-Class, as I understand Martin advocates too. Perhaps we'll have to make it something like a label in the project template, e.g.: ??  Wim van Dorst   (talk)  20:51, 1 October 2008 (UTC).

the or The
Wim and Egel: please provide input here: Category_talk:Scouting_in_The_Netherlands — Rlevse  •  Talk  • 01:55, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

Baden Powell
Hi Wim

Re: The Robert Baden Powell entry.

I'm afraid I can't 'read' Wiki very well so can not tell if this is from your main entry or if it is a section anyone else has edited.

On the page it is mentioned that Baden Powell went to Rose Hill School in Tunbridge Wells. If you click on Rose Hill School it goes to an entry about Rose Hill School in Gloucestershire.

Sue x —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.99.66.37 (talk) 07:41, 11 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Hi Sue, thanks for pointing this out. I adjusted the text to not link anymore. There is no page for the correct Rose Hill School.  Wim van Dorst  (talk)  21:27, 11 October 2008 (UTC).

Golden Arrow
Dear Mr Wim van Dorst,

I am a polish scout, my scout troop is writing the history of polish Golden Arrow given to the polish delegacy during the 3rd Jamboree. We contacted our british friends and we found some sources, but we still do not know some basic things. I am writing to you, because probably you know something more than we do. The main problem is - how did exactly the Closing Ceremony look like? I mean - did Bi-Pi give Golden Arrows at this ceremony or afterwards? How many of GA were given? Did every national contingent get one or not? We know that Polish wer given one, but we are not sure if it was One of those four - sent to the West, East, North and South. Maybe there were others presented after the ceremony? We have read many stories about the Jamboree of 1929, but we still do not know, what exactly happened. If you have any other information about the Golden Arrows we are also very interested.

I would appreciate any answer. My e-mail is: *****

Your sincerely, Kasia Dzieciolowska —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.24.48.15 (talk) 22:28, 23 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Hi Kasia, the good description, apart from the 3rd World Scout Jamboree article, is in the Pine Tree web archive with lots of pictures, which we can't use in Wikipedia as they copyrighted. As far as I have found, there were four Golden Arrows, and they were handed out by B-P during the closing ceremony, where he (and other notables) were on a dais in the middle of the Wheel of Friendship, and gave them to be handed into the four compass directions. I assume that they ended up at the last group on each end, who kept them. I've never actually seen one, but expect that there are really only those four.  Wim van Dorst  (talk)  22:54, 24 October 2008 (UTC).

Oil shale extraction
Hi, Wim. As you have experiences with FAC procedures, I would like to ask you assistance. The Oil shale extraction was a FAC, but was not promoted, mostly because of the prose. I wonder if you could be interested to help bringing this article to the FA level. Thank you in advance. Beagel (talk) 19:16, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Hi Beagel, yes, indeed, I quite agree with Tony and Sandy (who are way better editors than I). I left some very measurable peerreviewer script output on the talk page, to show also some very clear points to work on. Don't underestimate these things, by the way: really look into the peerreviewer recommendations and do scrutinously as recommended. I'll see whether I can edit a bit too.  Wim van Dorst  (talk)  19:27, 9 November 2008 (UTC).
 * Hi Beagel, copy-editing was done focussed on the lead. Now, I recommend that you drop some less interesting info from the in-situ and ex-situ sections: aim should really be that 50k characters. Go ahead: most of it is yours, anyhow.  Wim van Dorst  (talk)  23:56, 9 November 2008 (UTC).

Happy 's Day!
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 * Thanks, Rlevse! That really made my day! :-).  Wim van Dorst  (talk)  22:11, 21 November 2008 (UTC).

Dutch?
Are you a Dutch wikipedian? J.B. (talk) 14:40, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Indeed I am (Inderdaad). Why do you ask?  Wim van Dorst  (talk)  22:03, 25 November 2008 (UTC).

Delftsche Zwervers
Wim and Egel, I've chosen a Dutch/Belgian theme for December for the Scouting Portal. I was wondering if you two could improve this article, including the lead, so I can select it for the Selected Article for December. I already have selected the image and person. It needs to be ready before 00:00 UTC on 1 Dec. Thanks.  — Rlevse • Talk  • 00:59, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
 * There's not much more information readily available about the Delftse Zwervers, so I'm not optimistic about any improvement spree coming out of me. Perhaps Egel has attended it? I had never heard of it before I stumbled on the article here on WP. (I was at the other technical university)  Wim van Dorst  (talk)  22:06, 28 November 2008 (UTC).

Transition metals
I've noticed that wp considers Zn, Cd and Hg as transition metals in spite of the fact that the common definition between chemists do not include them (see i.e. Cotton Wilkinson, Advanced Inorganic Chemistry, 3rd Edition, 1977, a book that my university teacher used to reference as the bible of Inorganic Chemistry). I've also joined the discussion but I would like to have that information corrected into metals of the d-block. Please note that most of the chemists and teachers consider that a mistake and would rank the related articles consequently. I would be grateful if you could give or ask for contributions on the subject. Please notice that many other projects rely on en:wp so that this information is spread and translated worlwide. Thank you very much in advance. --Avogadro-I (talk) 23:10, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Brought the discussion to wikipedia talk:WikiProject Chemistry.  Wim van Dorst  (talk)  10:08, 30 November 2008 (UTC).

Gilwell Ada's Hoeve
Maybe it is beter to rename/merge that article to one about all "labelterreinen" Scouting Nederland Label Campsites. What do you think? --Egel Reaction? 12:57, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
 * If there isn't any other article about label campsites, I think certainly Gilwell Ada's Hoeve and probably Gilwell St Walrick each warrant an article of their own. A cover-all article about label sites is an interesting topic too, but IMHO Gilwell Ada's Hoeve stands out well above the general ones: it is by far the first one, it has hosted the Gilwell Woodbadge training, and it is also one of the largest.  Wim van Dorst  (talk)  21:40, 2 December 2008 (UTC).

Hello! Your submission at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed. There still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Nsk92 (talk) 02:16, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Can you and Egel answer? — Rlevse • Talk  • 14:56, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

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 * has been replaced by a better version.  Wim van Dorst  (talk)  20:54, 11 December 2008 (UTC).

Orphaned non-free media (Image:Harold-Wilberforce-Clifton.gif)
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 * has been replaced by a PNG version.  Wim van Dorst  (talk)  20:54, 11 December 2008 (UTC).

Arbcom election
Hi,

As a fellow participant in the Scouting Project, I just wanted to remind you that the Arbcom election closes today. Our lead coord, Rlevse, is one of the candidates running for arbitrator. Editors who wish to vote for or against candidates may do so at Arbitration Committee Elections December 2008/Vote within the next four hours.

Cheers,  JGHowes   talk  19:29, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

File:LandRoverDiscoII.gif listed for deletion
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RE: Template Chemicals
Hi there,

Thanks for letting me know about this, I have added the noinclude tags.

The Helpful  One  16:38, 26 December 2008 (UTC)