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Duplicate main pages
Wouldn't it be better to put all these duplicate main pages in Wikipedia-space or somewhere? As it stands, these are in article space; they come up in random article, etc. âCentrxâtalk &bull; 06:51, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Duplicate main pages? Mind clarifying a bit? --WinHunter (talk) 07:06, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Main Page/1, etc. David Levy said it was so it looked cleaner if the Main Page was deleted, as they would all be listed. âCentrxâtalk &bull; 03:57, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
 * I see, though I don't think it really matters that much, as it doesn't do any harm if it does come up. After all, it's just mainpage. --WinHunter (talk) 13:00, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

akc9000 talk
I edited the Article for Dynamic Software, it was scanned for deletion and I rewrote the article. Why was it deleted anyway and can it be restored? What was wrong with it?

It was valid, noteworthy and the company is listed in many publications. I really don't understand. I came back to add data and it is gone.

Al âThe preceding unsigned comment was added by Akc9000 (talk â¢ contribs) 01:19, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
 * What article are you talking about? Mind giving me a link to it? --WinHunter (talk) 04:16, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

RC93 talk
Hey fellow Hong Kong person! Can you give me advice on how to polish my page and make it more informative, kind of like your right column that gives all the information about what you do and stuff like that. And also, what is a Wikipedia administrator? You can view my user page if you want under the user RC93. Thanks! Sorry about not putting a subject/headline earlier. I'm new to this. I don't even know how to give you a link to my user page. âThe preceding unsigned comment was added by RC93 (talk â¢ contribs) 06:42, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

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WikiProject on open proxies
As you are already an admin, this is just to verify technical acumen. The usual questions asked are: 1) Do you know how to check if a proxy is open, including scanning for possibly open ports and actually connecting via the proxy? 2) What method(s) have you used / do you use to check open proxies? 3) What experience do you have in the way of checking open proxies (i.e., have you worked as an IT or server admin, do you use open proxies yourself, etc.)? Even if you are confident of your technical competence, it is still good to answer them as they can clarify your own understanding and there might be particular advice that I could give based on the responses. âCentrxâtalk &bull; 20:49, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I am familiar with using SOCK and http proxies (mostly CGIProxy). I currently mainly rely on online tools like Ippages to determin if a machine is a Tor exit node or possibly other types of open proxies (requires further testing). I do not currently use a port scanner as I do not have one but I should be able to comprehend the results to find any open ports to test if a machine is a open proxy or not by connecting to it. --WinHunter (talk) 09:35, 28 May 2007 (UTC)


 * You can get nmap free from if you are not behind a restrictive firewall. Also, you can contact AmiDaniel to get access to his online nmap system. Without a port-scan, it is difficult to "clear" an IP from being an open proxy. Also, the Completewhois tool linked from the Wikiproject page is useful when judiciously interpreted for quickly detecting that a computer is an open proxy, though it does not catch many and if not read carefully will show false positives; for example, there will be red results, perhaps as many as three, if the IP being checked is a dynamic IP, but that is only because that is designed for checking against spam, and dynamic IP addresses generally should not be acting as mail servers so any such IP would likely be a spam server, but that is irrelevant for checking against open proxies because all dynamic IP addresses are then flagged by the Completewhois. âCentrxâtalk &bull; 17:18, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Got it. --WinHunter (talk) 04:28, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Btw I am wondering what's going to happen next? --WinHunter (talk) 13:01, 2 June 2007 (UTC)


 * After exhaustive discussions in a secret warehouse with the Open Proxy Death Squad, Jimbo Wales, the English, German, and French Arbitration Committees, the Skulls and Bones, the Brandenburg Group, and Cool Cat, I have added you to the list. âCentrxâtalk &bull; 16:23, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks a lot. -WinHunter (talk) 12:37, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

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Open proxy blocks
FYI, confirmed a few of the open proxies I found but s/he is not an admin so they are not blocked. WRK (talk) 15:27, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

Dispute on Telugu script
The Figures 1 and 2 in the articles Telugu script and Telugu language figures clearly mention the evolution of Brahmi script of Mauryan times towards modern Telugu and Kannada scripts. It is as given below:

1. Brahmi script of Mauryan period (3rd centrury BCE)

2. Brahmi script on Bhattiprolu Urn containing Buddha's dhatus (3rd century BCE)

3. Brahmi script of Satavahana period (1st centurey CE)

4. Brahmi script of Ikshvaku period (3d century CE)

5. Brahmi script of Gupta period (4th century CE)

6. Ancient Telugu-Kannada script of Salankayana period (5th century)

7. Tamil scripts of Pallava period (7th century)

8. Telugu-Kannada script of 7th century

9. Telugu-Kannada script of Eastern Chalukyas (10th century)

10. Telugu-Kannada script of Rajarajanarendra period (11th century)

11. Telugu-Kannada script of Kakatiya Ganapatideva (13th century)

12. Telugu script of Prolaya Vemareddy (14th century).

It is thus very clear that both the scripts had a common origin in Brahmi script as found on Bhattiprolu stupa urn. To call it s "Old Kannada" script is nothing but travesty of history, even though some authors might have referred it so. In fact, these figures were sourced from the same citation (Adluri, Seshu Madhava Rao Parachuri, Sreenivas. Origins of Telugu Script) which Gnanapiti refers to. But, Gnanapiti does not want to take cognizance of it. As a compromise, I agreed that it can be written as:

"The Telugu script is derived from Telugu-Kannada script which is also known as old Kannada script and developed independently at the same time as modern Kannada script which is why it has strong resemblance with it"

However, Gnanapiti insists that it should be "Old Kannada" rather than "Telugu-Kannada". It is plain chauvanism being imposed on articles regarding Telugu, Telugu language and Telugu script. Wiki should not encourage such fanatics and chauvanists. Kumarrao 09:45, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
 * I don't think I can help resolving this dispute by judging who's right and who's wrong as I am having the faintest idea about the topic. Please feel free to follow the dispute resolution process. Thanks. --WinHunter (talk) 10:49, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

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How to look at deletion discussion
Hello. On 25th April, you deleted a page Roads_and_Boats_(board_game), which I created. Is there any way how I can see the deletion discussion? If not, please can you send this discussion to me by email? Thanks. --Pavel Jelinek 05:52, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Compromise
I agree if the users use the name "Old kannada" in Kannada articles and "Telugu-Kannada" in Telugu language and Telugu script articles. The fact is that the script of both the languages evolved from a variant of Asokan Brahmi found in Bhattiprolu dating from pre-Mauryan times (4thcentury). I have cited an authoritative reference and pointed out the figures given in the article. It is absolutely clear from Figures T1a and T1b in the reference (http://www.engr.mun.ca/~adluri/telugu/language/script/script1d.html) how Telugu-Kannada script evolved from Asokan Brahmi script of Bhattiprolu. Kadamba scipt or "old Kannada script" are the names given by Kannada historians to Telugu-Kannada script.Kumarrao 06:11, 14 June 2007 (UTC)