User talk:Wira rhea/Archive 2018

Nomination of Arapenta Poerba for deletion
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Re: Arapenta Poerba
Sorry for late reply. As I said in the deletion discussion, this article fails WP:FOOTY. You can recreate it when the player have played in a competitive game between two teams from fully-professional leagues (Liga 1). Yogwi21 (talk) 10:23, 22 January 2018 (UTC)

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2018 Liga 1
Are these edits good? Note that you can still edit semi-protected articles and extented-confirmed protected articles. Best wishes. Hhhhhkohhhhh (talk) 09:38, 2 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Yes, I think so. The edit for Gomes de Olivera, he just fix the link to Mário Gomes de Olivera. So that was fine. And also foreign player for Madura United F.C., Zah Rahan Krangar was confirmed to join like the post in their Official Instagram Page. So I think it wasn't a bad edit. Don't you think? Maybe the mistake was just he type Gomes de Oliveira not Gomes de Olivera which I will fix it right now. Wira rhea (talk) 11:31, 2 March 2018 (UTC)
 * I don't think these edits are bad. Hhhhhkohhhhh (talk) 12:09, 2 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Well, A user (not IP) readded this, so I have reported this user to WP:SPI and other two editors agree with me to remove this in this discussion, cheers. Hhhhhkohhhhh (talk) 12:09, 2 March 2018 (UTC)

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CAPS
WP:SHOUTING can be a problem  JarrahTree 01:03, 5 July 2018 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry, won't happen again. Thanks Wira rhea (talk) 02:05, 5 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Please do not apologise - some editors really test a sense of patience - sabar.... probably best to always ask hep from an admin if you have problematic editors on some subjects  JarrahTree 05:53, 5 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Will do, thanks Wira rhea (talk) 06:09, 5 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Mind you - some eds and admins keep well clear of football and all those huge flagcruft table pages... JarrahTree 06:15, 5 July 2018 (UTC)

Ping me on Talk:2018 Liga 2
Since I have renamed from Hhhhhkohhhhh to Hhkohh, you should type instead of, cheers Hhkohh (talk) 14:14, 13 July 2018 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry, I just copied it from your old username that used to talk with you. From now on, I'll remember to use . Cheers Wira rhea (talk) 14:32, 13 July 2018 (UTC)

Talkback
Hhkohh (talk) 06:49, 5 August 2018 (UTC) No more reply? Hhkohh (talk) 07:10, 5 August 2018 (UTC)

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2018 Bali United F.C. season
Hi! I did changes in 2018 Bali United F.C. season (diff:), what do you think? Hhkohh (talk) 13:49, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Edit like this Hhkohh (talk) 13:56, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
 * I think that's fine. Not to different with the old one and also easier to edit. Thanks. Wira rhea (talk) 14:00, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
 * I think the legend position beside the table was better than put in below because it makes blank space. And also I remove Home and Away legend because it didn't show like H|Home. Wira rhea (talk) 02:28, 16 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Never mind. Hhkohh (talk) 02:30, 16 August 2018 (UTC)
 * You had better to type tr if you do so, I have fixed it. Hhkohh (talk) 02:34, 16 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Much better. Thanks . Wira rhea (talk) 04:35, 16 August 2018 (UTC)
 * What about this one? Some new options were introduced these days because this module is still being under development (but can use it!). Hhkohh (talk) 15:06, 18 August 2018 (UTC)
 * That's more modern . I changed it in 2018 Bali United F.C. season also. But I prefer W/D/L/H/A like the one in Module:Sports rbr table. Wira rhea (talk) 23:48, 18 August 2018 (UTC)

Just a question
Please look at this diff, did this team really qualify? I am confused now. Hhkohh (talk) 14:36, 9 September 2018 (UTC)
 * No. That's was a vandalism. No teams from Indonesia that qualified for any Asian Club Competitions yet as Liga 1 isn't over and no such teams as United Anjings. I already revert it. Maybe it's better to block that IP because I looked up to his contributions, he's making vandals. Wira rhea (talk) 14:45, 9 September 2018 (UTC)
 * I am not an admin so I am no right to block IP. Also, it is not time to report IP to WP:AIV or request protect page in WP:RPP. I just warn IP on their talk page by adding Hhkohh (talk) 14:59, 9 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Can you review this edit, (see also my talk page) thanks? Hhkohh (talk) 11:16, 15 September 2018 (UTC)
 * And this? See Hhkohh (talk) 11:19, 15 September 2018 (UTC)
 * I think for BU page, its not wrong at all. Yes in Indonesia, professional teams must owned by a corporation. And he didn't vandalize it like giving some random names or informations. And I already read that source he gave before and it was valid. So, I think it was fine. Adding Pieter Tanuri just for further information as in all media, Pieter Tanuri always shown as the owner of BU. But I didn't know about PS Tira as I'm not from Yogya, the closest place for PS Tira so I don't want to speculate about it. Wira rhea (talk) 12:05, 15 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Or maybe you can ask the other in football discussion page. If they think that edit was inappropriate, one of them will be able to block him.Wira rhea (talk) 12:09, 15 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Err... if you see ip contribs, you will see:

11:04, 15 September 2018 (diff | hist). . (+114)‎ . . PS TIRA ‎ (please clean the format) (Tag: possible vandalism) 11:02, 15 September 2018 (diff | hist). . (+63)‎ . . Bali United F.C. ‎ (according to the link, even the owner of PT Bali Bintang Sejahtera is also corporation: PT Bali Peraga Bola) (Tag: possible vandalism)
 * So I am confused after ip left message on my talk page Hhkohh (talk) 14:15, 15 September 2018 (UTC)
 * I also confused. For Bali United it seems fine because I just adding Pieter Tanuri for detailed information before then he removed it, but I didn't know about the other teams. I'm afraid if I undo it based on possible vandalism, he'll undo it again straight away so I'll be involved in edit war. Maybe discussed it in WT:FOOTY would be the wise choice. Don't you agree? Wira rhea (talk) 14:23, 15 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Go ahead. Seems controversial Hhkohh (talk) 14:28, 15 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Maybe it's better that you make the discussion because you know more the details about that. I'm afraid of being wrong in the delivery of the problem. Wira rhea (talk) 01:16, 16 September 2018 (UTC)
 * As you are an Indonesian, it is better that you post on WT:FOOTY. I trust you because we are human, we may go wrong at any time Hhkohh (talk) 15:23, 16 September 2018 (UTC)
 * After I looked up all of his contributions he didn't vandalize page. He just adding information for owner of clubs and it based on the notable article. In Indonesia, it must have a PT to be the owner of a team. So I think we just need to repair the format of the ref. It's not that I didn't want to post the discussion in WT:FOOTY but I think we don't need to drag this problem even further as he didn't edit pages anymore. Maybe if he did vandalize the page and didn't put a proper source then we need to discuss it in WT:FOOTY. How about it? Wira rhea (talk) 15:51, 16 September 2018 (UTC)

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Discussion at Talk:2019 AFC Champions League
You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:2019 AFC Champions League. Hhkohh (talk) 04:28, 7 November 2018 (UTC)

Stadion Kapten I Wayan Dipta opening date
Look on youtube for the movie: BALI STORY | KAPTEN I WAYAN DIPTA | NET BALI

and look from from 1 minute — Preceding unsigned comment added by Edwink85 (talk • contribs) 09:40, 11 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Nah, keneh-keneh ci gen be. Wira rhea (talk) 09:51, 11 November 2018 (UTC)

Template:2018 Liga 1 table
I am curious why you did not write H2h note about 36 points teams Hhkohh (talk) 11:57, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Because all three teams must met home and away. If they didn't, goal difference is used. That's the regulations. Wira rhea (talk) 12:05, 18 November 2018 (UTC)

Persija Jakarta
Is this team assured of top 3? I see a user added this team to 2019 AFC Cup, but I cannot find any evidence about it Hhkohh (talk) 10:47, 24 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Persija has 56 points in 32 matches, PSM 54 in 31, Persib 50 in 32, and Bhayangkara 49 in 31. Persija can't be out from top 3 because Persib can't pass Persija even with the same point as Persib lost in head-to-head results. Only Bhayangkara and PSM can pass Persija. Wira rhea (talk) 10:59, 24 November 2018 (UTC)

2019 Liga 1
Can you publish this article now? Hhkohh (talk) 11:10, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Okay, right after Persebaya vs Bhayangkara match. How about it? Or must publish it right now? Wira rhea (talk) 11:11, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Because I just find 2019 Liga 2 has published. If you are not ready now, please feel free to delay it Hhkohh (talk) 11:14, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Yeah, and I just re-edited it. I'm still working on 2018 Liga 3 now. Maybe after that, I'll published it. Wira rhea (talk) 11:15, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
 * I am curious why we must create several templates in 2019 Liga 2 separately. Maybe you can see Template:2018 Uzbekistan Super League tables. The template contains many tables. Hhkohh (talk) 11:51, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Maybe we can do it like that. I'll see what I can do. By the way, I already created 2019 Liga 1 page. Just check'em out. Wira rhea (talk) 11:53, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Can you delete Template:2019 Liga 2 West table and Template:2019 Liga 2 East table please? I've found a way to make it like Template:2018 Uzbekistan Super League tables. Wira rhea (talk) 12:17, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
 * I am not an admin. Only admin can delete pages. But if you want to delete some page, please tag db-g7 on these pages (only you are the page author) per WP:CSD so that an admin can find it to delete. Hhkohh (talk) 12:27, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Do we really need to put Q status in Template:2018 Liga 1 table for qualified to AFC Competitions? I see in big leagues in ASEAN and Asia, they put it. However, in European league they don't put it. How about it? Wira rhea (talk) 13:24, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Can you give me some examples in European league? Hhkohh (talk) 13:34, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Like in 2017–18 Serie A, teams like Juventus, Napoli, Roma, and Inter, which qualified for UEFA CL, didn't have Q status. Just C status in Juve as a champion. Also in 2017–18 Premier League, 2017–18 La Liga, 2017–18 Ligue 1, and 2017–18 Bundesliga. Wira rhea (talk) 13:39, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
 * I just checked first two templates history, the status was removed after league was ended. You can see this earlier version where you can see status Hhkohh (talk) 13:46, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Ah, I see. Thanks. Wira rhea (talk) 13:48, 26 November 2018 (UTC)

Capacity Stadion Kapten I Wayan Dipta
It's simple maths

I asked the Panpel for the official capacity per section.

Tribune VIP: VIP Selatan 825 seats (check elevenia) VIP Utara 760 seats (check elevenia) VVIP 100 seats (check elevenia) Royal Box 46 seats Total: 1,731

Sayap Selatan: 3,100

Sayap Utara: 2,500

Utara: 4,000

Selatan: 4,600

Timur: 7,000

Total capacity: 22,931 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Edwink85 (talk • contribs) 09:53, 27 November 2018 (UTC)

2 questions
I have 2 questions: Thanks Hhkohh (talk) 15:34, 28 November 2018 (UTC)
 * 1) Do you think is a sock of ? (I suspect it, but I am not sure)
 * 2) If the first question you said no, please answer: Is this edit necessary?
 * For the first question, I don't really know. It can be, because they had something in common in my opinion, they edit many article related to Liga 3 (Indonesia). At least that's what I thought when I see their talk pages. For the second question, I think its up to you whether to use just PSM/Persija or PSM Makassar/Persija Jakarta. In Liga 1 season's pages, I use PSM/Persija because like PSM is stand for Persatuan Sepakbola Makassar or Persija is Persatuan Sepakbola Indonesia Jakarta. It's already mentioned Jakarta and Makassar in the name, so I don't think its necessary to put the city in that. But again, its up to you to decided. Wira rhea (talk) 22:37, 28 November 2018 (UTC)
 * For the first question, I will let an more experienced editor to handle, so I will open an SPI Hhkohh (talk) 10:59, 29 November 2018 (UTC)

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Club season articles about top assists
Please see Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Football/Archive_100, I saw consensus was not listed assists Hhkohh (talk) 07:47, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
 * , so what you say is do you want to delete the top assists section in Liga 1 season page? I think I'm fine with it. Wira rhea (talk) 08:06, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
 * And for all of Bali United season's page? Okay then, I'll delete it. Wira rhea (talk) 08:08, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Just mean like 2018 Bali United F.C. season Hhkohh (talk) 08:09, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
 * , I already remove it in 2018 Bali United F.C. season and 2017 Bali United F.C. season. Do you want to remove it in Liga 1 seasons as well? Wira rhea (talk) 08:13, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
 * , no need to remove these in 2018 Liga 1. We can also list these in 2019 articles Hhkohh (talk) 08:18, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
 * , okay then. Cheers. Wira rhea (talk) 08:21, 18 December 2018 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Bali United F.C. seasons
Template:Bali United F.C. seasons has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Hhkohh (talk) 10:28, 22 December 2018 (UTC)

Category:2017 Liga 1
I am curious why you remove 2017 Liga 1 from category recently? Should we post it to WP:CfD for deletion? Hhkohh (talk) 11:26, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
 * , I think you should, because I look up into another league in ASEAN, there's no category for league per season like Category:2017 Thai League T1, Category:2017 Malaysia Super League, etc. Wira rhea (talk) 12:22, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
 * I am not sure whether we should delete or keep Category:2017 Liga 1 because I find A-league has these kinds of categories in Category:A-League seasons. However, I suggest we should discuss in WT:FOOTY or post it to WP:CfD directly then advertise CfD discussion in WT:FOOTY Hhkohh (talk) 12:36, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
 * , I'm sure about deleting it, because if you want to compare it with Category:A-League seasons, Liga 1 has Category:Liga 1 seasons. Wira rhea (talk) 12:54, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
 * , I mean comparing with like Category:2017–18 A-League season, so I am not sure. But if you would like to delete, please go ahead. Hhkohh (talk) 13:01, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
 * , ah I changed my mind, it turns out that the season before 2017 have category of each season like Category:2014 Indonesia Super League. So, I'll add 2017 Liga 1 to Category:2017 Liga 1. Thanks for the discussion. Wira rhea (talk) 13:11, 30 December 2018 (UTC)