User talk:Wisconsinindy

Mickey McCoy
Hi, your article at Mickey McCoy has been deleted as it was felt that it fails our guidelines at WP:BIO. If you can include sources which verify the notability of this person from sources other than those associated with his organization, then you might prove notability. User:Zoe|(talk) 22:20, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Has he been written up in major national newspapers or magazines? Are there news websites which talk about him? See WP:V and WP:RS for our policies and guidelines on what are appropriate sites. If you can find them, then put the article back in, with an entry at the end as ==External links== followed by a list of the links you found, each on a separate line, preceded by a "*" to make a bulleted list. You'll need at least two, though three or more are preferred. And they have to be sites which are not associated with him or his organization. User:Zoe|(talk) 22:25, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
 * In fact, now that I think about it, you might want to start by creating an article about his organization first. But that, too, needs notable sources.  User:Zoe|(talk) 22:26, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

So you mean to tell me that any of the organizations that employ his services that have notable sites and are territories of larger companys cannot be used as references???
 * That's correct. It would fail our verifiability policy, as it's like saying that you only have to point at the page I created which talks about what a wonderful person I am, to prove what a wonderful person I am.  We need neutral, third party references.  User:Zoe|(talk) 22:32, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

The interview would be one good source, if you can prove that the name he was using is the same person, but we would still need another or two sources. User:Zoe|(talk) 22:34, 28 November 2006 (UTC)


 * I don't know what the PW Torch is, so I can't judge how notable it is. Is it a webforum, a webmag, or what?  User:Zoe|(talk) 22:35, 28 November 2006 (UTC)


 * I see on their main page that they have a high alexa.com rank, which would indicate a certain degree of notability. That would probably be a good source.  Can you show something to prove that he used the other name in the CBS interview?  And what was the interview about?  User:Zoe|(talk) 22:42, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Unfortunately, your tape would be considered original research. If there was a link to the interview on the local station's website, you could use that. Otherwise, look through Google for "Mickey McCoy" wrestling, or some other search like that, and see what comes up and see if there are other things like the WP Torch which look promising. Even newspaper articles would work, if you could provide the column name, name of the paper and the date. It doesn't have to be an online link. User:Zoe|(talk) 22:47, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

We really don't like webforums and blogs as sources, as they aren't reliable. User:Zoe|(talk) 22:48, 28 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Another copy of the same source isn't considered a different source. Are there other websites like PW Torch?  I appreciate your patience on this.  I can understand that Wikipedia's policies and procedures can appear difficult.  User:Zoe|(talk) 22:53, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

I think the PW Torch link is good, based on their claim of notability on their home page. Hey, why not write an article about PW Torch? :) But then, you wouldn't be able to use their site as a source.  Though you could link to it as Further reading.  User:Zoe|(talk) 23:11, 28 November 2006 (UTC)