User talk:Wisdom89/Archive 9

Error
Just to let you know, on User:Wisdom89/RfA philosophy and criteria, you have "overtime" instead of "over time", in case you'd like to fix it. I was going to just do it myself, per being bold, however, I noticed that nobody aside from you had edited the page and I didn't want to tarnish it. Useight (talk) 20:02, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Hey man, if you notice any grammatical errors, I'd feel honored to have you edit/fix it : ) Wisdom89  ( T |undefined /  C ) 20:35, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Yep
This is what I was looking at when I made that comment.  Enigma  message 20:49, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
 * That's what I thought : ) Wisdom89  ( T |undefined /  C ) 20:52, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Question
Whenever I comment in a non-clear RfA, I strive to make my comments constructive, polite, sensible, and non-attacking. As such, in the current RfA for Natl1, while I agree I could have worded my support better (and I have since added and explained myself more), and I gave my thoughts on self-nom acceptance lines (something I'm now tempted to strike, as it really wasn't helpful) and on long breaks. You mentioned on that RfA about the sarcasm in the first few supports, and about them being a "little frivolous". Well, my support was within the first few supports. I welcome constructive comments on my overall participation here, and I would like to know how my comment came across to you as sarcastic (when none was intended) or frivolous (something that my comments have not been regarded as before). Thanks! Acalamari 21:23, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh, I know you said that you didn't actually have a problem with the comments yourself, but the possibility of my comments coming across as frivolous or sarcastic had me concerned, even if certain people actually didn't have a problem with the comments. I will admit that sometimes I did use sarcasm in RfAs, but it's something I've avoided for the last few months (it was something Friday said at my RfB or somewhere that made me improve my comments at RfA, and be more helpful with my rationales). I do agree with you that the first few supports weren't very helpful, which was why I decided to expand upon mine (and further still when Balloonman left a comment). Anyway, there's no hard feelings at all: it's just something to add to the "something to consider next time" and "avoid the mistake again" books. Best wishes. Acalamari 21:50, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Comment in RfA
Sorry mate, I think I over-reacted a little here. I do agree with part of what you are saying. Sorry if I seemed rude. Tim Vickers (talk) 01:55, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

thankspam
Thanks for weighing in at my RfA. I appreciate your concerns, and also your stated willingness to not hold the nom against me and give me a second chance in the future. I won't need it &mdash; I've decided to serve the project in other ways, because I may be unsuited for adminship &mdash; but I'm happy for that extension of good faith. I also like your contributions at the RfA page generally. Be seeing you around!  Mr. IP  《 Defender of Open Editing 》 14:20, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

Rock music WikiProject
I'd like to invite you to join the newly-formed Rock music WikiProject. There's alot of Rock-related articles on Wikipedia that could use a little attention, and I hope this project can help organize an effort to improve them. So please, take a look and if you like what you see, help us get this project off the ground and a few Rock music pages into the front ranks of Wikipedia articles. Thanks! --Be Black Hole Sun (talk) 19:17, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

I know
I'm pushing for specificity here so that if this fails (in this case, that includes no consensus) BQ will have very specific examples of what he needs to improve on. You'll note that I am not responding to everyone, just a few contributers whom I think could be a little more specific. I will take heed of your advice though, and tone it down a little so as not to appear overly agressive. Thanks for the advice, as always I do apreciate it. TomStar81 (Talk) 04:27, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Sure Tom, I just didn't want to start seeing opposes based on your responses, not exactly the tone, but actually the action of responding. It doesn't happen pervasively, but enough to get under my skin. Take care dude. Wisdom89  ( T |undefined /  C ) 04:37, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
 * FWIW, it seems to be working; the newer opposes all have specifics, which is what BQ will need as a reference for future improvement. I get the feeling that this may not last the whole week, if my hunch is right it will be pulled either on SNOW grounds or NOTNOW grounds (or both :) At any rate, I've done my part, and perhaps some good will come of it. TomStar81 (Talk) 05:03, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 24 supports, so quite appropriately it has been allowed to continue. One cannot SNOW-close an RfA with legitimate and substantial support, and NOTNOW is for inexperienced users. Clearly wouldn't apply to BQ.  Enigma  message 05:08, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

ACC Feedback
Please check the IP talk page before banning, pulling up User talk:218.186.8.11 would show that it's a shared IP. Shared IPs are told to register, and well, banning them from registering is probably not a good thing. Q T C 09:57, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Will do, I should have checked the talk page for a sharedIP template, absolutely. Thank you for the reminder and the correction. Still working out the kinks at ACC. Wisdom89  ( T |undefined /  C ) 23:57, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

ACC
Hey Wisdom89, good to see you're now part of ACC! I wonder if you've noticed you can turn on 'Automatic Welcoming' of users under your preferences? Saves the people who patrol new users having to work quite as hard. Kind regards. —Cyclonenim T@lk? 23:23, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Hey Cyclo, thanks for the welcome. Yep, decided to sink my teeth into another facet of this fine little place. I originally had automatic welcoming enabled, but then I felt like welcoming them myself instead of having a bot do it, so I just welcome them with a plate of cookies after the name is created. Wisdom89  ( T |undefined /  <font color="#17001E">C ) 01:22, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Ah okay, sure :) As long as you don't mind the work! Happy editing! —<font face="Trebuchet MS" size="2px">Cyclonenim <font face="Trebuchet MS" size="1">T@lk? 09:58, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

RfA
When do you plan to do another RfA (if you do at all that is)? I would be happy to nom or co nom. <font style="color:white;background:#4682b4;font-family:sans-serif;"> Asenine   15:04, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Hey thanks for the offer Asenine. I haven't completely decided if I am or not yet, I'm leaning towards yes, but if I do, it would probably be some time in late October or early November. I want to have a significant amount of time lapse since my last one in order to inspire confidence in the community that I can help the encyclopedia without admin coaching. Also, concern for having three RfAs in six months was an issue too. Cheers mate. <font color="#660000">Wisdom89  ( <font color="#17001E">T |undefined /  <font color="#17001E">C ) 17:40, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

malformed
Re I guess it would depend on how malformed it was or how long it took to fix. Admins have to follow a lot of fairly precise instruction sets, and someone who can't get their RFA right doesn't really engender a lot of confidence that they would follow other sets of instructions right either. – xeno  ( talk ) 16:32, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Ok, cool Xeno, just wanted you to expound on this point. I was honestly curious. I definitely see your point about glossing over instructions and how such a trait would not be desirable for a potential administrator. <font color="#660000">Wisdom89  ( <font color="#17001E">T |undefined /  <font color="#17001E">C ) 17:41, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Any time. – xeno  ( talk ) 17:42, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

Thankyou
Just a little note to say thankyou for participating in my successful RFA candidacy, which passed with 96 supports, 0 opposes, and 1 neutral. I am pleasantly taken aback by the amount of support for me to contribute in an administrative role and look forward to demonstrating that such faith is well placed. Regards, WilliamH (talk) 10:20, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

Antipathy
May I know why this antipathy (and I use this word very lightly) to people who use Huggle for only Anti-Vandalism? 122.163.23.115 (talk) 19:21, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes, I wouldn't agree that there's any "antipathy". I think it's just an aversion to the application itself, but it seems to have waned in the last few months in my opinion. It stems from a perceived rapid, robotic and thoughtless mechanism for fighting vandalism. Use of the program is attractive to new and inexperience users in the project and the likelihood of mistakes is pretty steep. <font color="#660000">Wisdom89  ( <font color="#17001E">T |undefined /  <font color="#17001E">C ) 20:01, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

My RfA
Wisdom89, thank you for your contribution to the discussion at my recent RfA and for noticing my AfD work in particular. If ever you have any concerns about my actions, adminly or otherwise, don't hesitate to let me know. Best wishes, Paul Erik  (talk) (contribs) 19:46, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

You beat me
Hey Wisdom. You beat me on the Rush album revert. Can you watch the Neil Young page with me. Some floating IP keeps edit warring and re-adding advertising content about Young's management company into the article. I have requested page protection but until it kicks in looks like the page will need a few sets of eyes. The floating IP has been tampering with Iron Maiden albums too? Strange connection between Neil Young and Iron Maiden? Perhaps an extra set of eyes on those too. Saturdays are usually slow when it comes to troll activity. Must be the Moon? Cheers and take care! Anger22 (Talk 2 22) 01:52, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
 * You got it mate <font color="#660000">Wisdom89  ( <font color="#17001E">T |undefined /  <font color="#17001E">C ) 01:55, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Whoops, I guess the admins are wide awake tonight and KrakatoaKatie has semi-protected the page for a full 10 days. She requests that if any red link sleeper accounts suddenly show their face and re-insert the spam just let her know. I suspect they will get bored and go away. (I hope) Cheers! Anger22 (Talk 2 22) 01:56, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

RfA thank you
<div style="background-color: white; border: #5B92E5 solid 2px; margin-bottom:.5em; padding: 5px; font-family: trebuchet ms, sans-serif; color: #084C9E">, I wish to say thanks for your support in my successful request for adminship, which ended with 82 supports, 3 opposes, and 1 neutral. I will do my best to live up to your expectations. I would especially like to thank Rlevse  for nominating me and  Wizardman  for co-nominating me. &mdash;  JGHowes <sup style="color:darkblue;">talk  -  19 August 2008

My RfB
Thanks for your reasoned oppose. Just a small note from me (I assume you read my comments at the top of the page about my WT:RFA contribs) that I have plenty of WP:RFA contribs - I'll drop by later with some stats. --Dweller (talk) 06:26, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Ok Dweller, I'll be more than happy to look at them. <font color="#660000">Wisdom89  ( <font color="#17001E">T |undefined /  <font color="#17001E">C ) 06:31, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I wikilinked above the bit that I was referring to re WT:RFA. Re WP:RFA: since 1 June, I have 49 edits there, despite having had a 10 day wikibreak in Devon. I think my WP:RFA contribs are up to scratch. --Dweller (talk) 09:48, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

Reversions
Please don't undo my contributions and start another edit war. I sourced both my quotes, one from WIKIPEDIA another from an .edu site. I did virtually the same thing done right above my quotes to show the converse side. If you're such a strong believer in Darwinism that's fine, but you don't have the right to vandalize people's work. I've tried to state this many times with you. I don't know if this is the right area for a talk page, point me to the prefered area if you will, but again do NOT undo anything until you have talked it over. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.106.93.44 (talk) 07:32, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry, but you're the one who is engaged in an edit war that I happened to stumble upon. Your POV edits have been time and time again asked to be discussed on the article's talk page. Also, reversions and content disputes are not vandalism. <font color="#660000">Wisdom89  ( <font color="#17001E">T |undefined /  <font color="#17001E">C ) 16:39, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

Just asking
Time frame?


 * Not entirely sure - but sometime in the fall most likely. I still vacillate back and forth about it : ) <font color="#660000">Wisdom89  ( <font color="#17001E">T |undefined  /  <font color="#17001E">C ) 05:20, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Looking forward to it. Don't rush. Cheers,  Dloh  cierekim  14:09, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

Hey.
Thanks. I may try again sometime next year. I may not. That all depends on how I feel about things in the future. I'm not leaving, though. :) &mdash; scetoaux (T | C)  05:52, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I decided against withdrawing. I can still glean useful feedback out of this RFA, even if it is going to fail (especially after I've said this). &mdash;  scetoaux (T | C)  06:03, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

No, the comment was neither coincidence nor sarcasm. At the time I meant what I said. A few minutes later I was so frustrated with myself at having said that that I decided to withdraw my RFA. But, like I said, I can still get useful feedback out of it. &mdash; scetoaux (T | C)  19:34, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm going to, I've just been trying to figure out what to say. &mdash; scetoaux (T | C)  20:05, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

An update
There has been an update to a summary you have endorsed at Requests for comment/Majorly. Jennavecia (Talk)  05:31, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

Remarks at UAA
You are not an administrator. Please stop removing names from this noticeboard until an administrator has reviewed them. Thanks, Cumulus Clouds (talk) 08:25, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I am perfectly within my right to do so. Please stop making bogus reports. <font color="#660000">Wisdom89  ( <font color="#17001E">T |undefined /  <font color="#17001E">C ) 14:47, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

My RfA
Thank you for your support in my recent RfA, which was successful with 58 support, 4 oppose and 1 neutral. Kind regards. --Malcolmxl5 (talk) 20:41, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

RfA thanks
--Smashville<sup style="color:#03F">BONK! 23:05, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

WP:AIV question
I noticed that you declined to act on my user report, saying there is no warning for vandalism. My understand was that deleting content after level 3 (or 4?) warning was treated as vandalism. Was I mistaken? Mosmof (talk) 02:08, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Looking through the history, it appears as though you caught your own mistake. I'm assuming you meant to report another user. All is good now : ) Cheers! <font color="#660000">Wisdom89  ( <font color="#17001E">T |undefined /  <font color="#17001E">C ) 02:25, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks, looks like I confused myself. Cheers! --Mosmof (talk) 03:59, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Apologies
Hello! I just wanted to pass along my apology for disappointing you in my train wreck of an RfA (there is a scrap metal sale going on now, if you're interested). I am going on Wikibreak and I will let you know when or if I am back on the site -- I am trying to take time away to clear my thoughts and refocus on this and other priorities. Be well. Ecoleetage (talk) 05:09, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Eco, it's quite alright, no apologies are necessary at all. There were just some legitimate concerns that were brought up after revisiting your RfA. I urge you not to get disgruntled about it too much - I had a few nasty RfAs myself so I know where you're coming from, and I'm still up in the air about whether or not I want to run again in the future. If you feel you need a short respite, by all means, take it. But, come on back soon! <font color="#660000">Wisdom89  ( <font color="#17001E">T |undefined /  <font color="#17001E">C ) 05:18, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
 * You must run sometime soon, I'm counting on it! You're last rfa was completely unfair, I found it very hard to assume good faith on some of the opposes. --Cameron Public (talk) 21:00, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks!
Thank you for the tag on Virginia (schooner); my computer was threatening to explode and I didn't dare open another window to find the right template. --Fullobeans (talk) 08:28, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

My RFA
Thanks for voting on my RFA, although it was unsuccessful, I do appreciate the feedback. I very much appreciate you calling me a “net positive” :), and I hope to see you around the wiki!-- daniel folsom  02:48, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
 * PS - awesome talk page :)-- daniel folsom  02:48, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

I thought you planned to "adopt" me!
WHAT'S UP? I really need help with some easy questions. Can't you help me? --leahtwosaints (talk) 17:49, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
 * See your talk page. --leahtwosaints (talk) 18:41, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
 * What specifically am I looking for? <font color="#660000">Wisdom89  ( <font color="#17001E">T |undefined /  <font color="#17001E">C ) 18:57, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

Adoption and edit conflict BS.

 * Sorry, in writing you there was an edit conflict. Crap.

If it's convenient, a subpage is OK. I'm trying to revamp Cat Stevens (now recording as Yusuf Islam the same type of genre as before with Alun Davies, who needed a page, as he's still playing with him. It's now created. My problem is the albums he recorded for the Discography. Daydo has the most info, some of which I've stashed on his page, but I need to put the album cover in an infobox (which I've never figured out HOW)-- I've only added photos to 4 pages thus far but only when others have uploaded them to Wikipedia and Wikimedia Commons. See 3 of the albums here: (I've found 4 of his own so far, but..) Daydo is the highest ranked by Allmusic with plenty of info. I uploaded the album cover to Flickr- my user name is leah2saints there.. but don't know how to upload it here or to Wiki Commons and then to get it in the box.  I think it should be OK with copyright, since though it probably belongs to the record label, it's out of circulation, shrunk smaller on the website I provided above, illustrates the topic, etc. How can I do this?? Help? --leahtwosaints (talk) 21:03, 11 September 2008 (UTC)


 * About this user, do you plan to adopt him/her? I am quite confused because the adoptme-template was not removed/changed to adoptoffer. Please tell me if you just forgot to do that or if you are not willing to adopt this user. Regards  So Why  10:23, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Album covers
I wanted to know; is there a group of wikipedians who focus on record album pahrdalbum pages? I'm seeking someone who knows how to upload the photo of the cover of an album from 1972. The album has long been out of circulation, the artist hasn't made any solo efforts since that time, but I have an excellent (smaller) version of the album cover which is a perfect size to fit in an infobox, and wish to upload it. If you don't know how, please recommend someone who does?! Or someone who KNOWS someone who does? --leahtwosaints (talk) 16:30, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

RfA time?
You planning to run for Adminship soon? I think you should go for it. — Realist  2  16:48, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Still not sure about it - and even if I was committed to it, I would probably wait until November to inspire confidence in the community that I can work independently without a coach, which was a big problem last time. <font color="#660000">Wisdom89  ( <font color="#17001E">T |undefined /  <font color="#17001E">C ) 17:20, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Sound decision to wait a couple more months. And you can, of course, guarantee my support (unless you do something really stupid in the meantime obviously :) ) Pedro : Chat  17:36, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Thank you Pedro. I don't plan on doing anything stupid..and please..by all means..let me know if I start acting like a buffoon : ) <font color="#660000">Wisdom89  ( <font color="#17001E">T |undefined /  <font color="#17001E">C ) 17:39, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
 * OK, I sit and wait till then. :-) — Realist  2  17:51, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I'll mark it on my calendar :) - Icewedge (talk) 06:29, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Heh, I'll let you know the exact date so you can be first in line. : ) <font color="#660000">Wisdom89  ( <font color="#17001E">T |undefined /  <font color="#17001E">C ) 06:31, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, but wasn't stuff like that what partially sunk your last RFA?
 * This time you should get 5-8 people to vote oppose before you transclude, just to avoid that type of !vote :P - Icewedge (talk) 06:35, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

Thank you
Hi Wisdom89. I would like to thank you for your support in my RfA and the confidence expressed thereby. It is very much appreciated. :) The RfA was closed as successful with 73 supports, 3 opposes and 4 neutral. I would especially like to thank WBOSITG for nominating me. Best wishes and thanks again, —αἰτίας •'discussion'• 22:34, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Re. RfB
Hello Wisdom. I understand and thank your recommendation, but I've decided not to voluntarily withdraw my RfB, no matter how many users join the opposition. This RfB is far beyond what eyes can see, and I am learning a lot from it. I was disgruntled a few hours ago, but my temperament does not allow me to stay like that for more than a few minutes. So right now I am tranquil and just looking forward to see what else happens at my RfB until it is closed. I believe that everything teaches a lesson, even if a sour one. So this RfB can do no harm really. Best regards, Hús  ö  nd  22:41, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Ok, Husond I can definitely respect that. Cheers! <font color="#660000">Wisdom89  ( <font color="#17001E">T |undefined /  <font color="#17001E">C ) 23:45, 19 September 2008 (UTC)