User talk:Wisekwai/archive1

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Haing S. Ngor
Please see http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Haing_S._Ngor&action=history for why I reverted your edit. Thanks. --Nlu (talk) 17:19, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

Thai AirAsia
Sawasdee krub. Sorry if my changes to the Thai AirAsia bother you. It was to make the article clearer for people who are not familiar with Shin Corp (who owned Shin Corp before the sale ?). Happy editing. -- Lerdsuwa 04:39, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

Gie
Hi, I feel the second stub is important too. But at first glance, the doesn't seem to fit a movie article to me. How 'bout adding instead? Thanks. *drew 08:30, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

The TH
Yo - where y'at in the TH? --AStanhope 19:42, 14 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Chaiyaphum, chan raak ther tao faa! --AStanhope 12:05, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

Thank you
I am impressed with your work too. :) -- Lerdsuwa 16:56, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

Sinn Sisamouth
"Sawat di, khrap!" Or should I say "Chumreap suor!"? Good rewrite. As you can see by my list of "things to do" on my User Page, I have been intending to rewrite this article for a while now but never got around to it. I could not have done better. Likewise with the Ros Sereysothea article. I do have an extensive collection of songs but the list would get rather long if I added them all. I have added many of the most famous ones. I may add more later. Anyway, good work.--WilliamThweatt 19:23, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

New Page on the Nation Multimedia Group
Someone started an entry on The Nation Group yesterday and it's now featured on today's Main Page in connection to the KCL controversy about printing Sondhi's remarks about the King. Anyways, it looks like the page could use a lot of work - I havn't seen you contrbitute to it yet, but given your background, I was hoping you could help! Considering it's featured on the main page, it could definitely use some expansion ASAP. I've made a couple of changes (and suggestions) already, but I've gotta run now. Tettyan 05:12, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

Hong Kong action cinema
hi, thanks for your peer review comments. The article Hong Kong action cinema is now a featured article candidate. Please "support" or "object" with your comments at Featured_article_candidates/Hong_Kong_action_cinema. thanks! Zzzzz 07:13, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

fyi, the article is now featured! rgs, Zzzzz 10:59, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

The Adventure of Sudsakorn or "Sud Sakorn"?
As you are the creator of the Payut Ngaokrachang article, I want to ask you your views - which one is the more correct title, and why are there two different versions in the first place? The former seems to be more widely used (if a google search is any indication), but you used the latter in your article - is there a reason for this? I don't speak Thai myself, so I wouldn't know. Also, it would be very helpful if you could fill in the Thai name of the film in my article (well, it's really more your article than mine, if truth be told ;). Esn 02:50, 10 May 2006 (UTC) -- Sorry, I'd just like to ask you one more thing - does this look like it could be a DVD of the abovementioned film or is it something else entirely (such as a computer game or tv show based on it)? It also says "Thai-English" at the top of the image, so I wonder if that means anything as well... Esn 18:13, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

Article improvement drive
Hello. Since you are an active contributor to Current events in Southeast Asia, I thought you might be interested to know that History of Southeast Asia is being nominated for Improvement Drive. If you don't mind, would be kind enough to cast your vote for it at WP:AID? Thanks __earth (Talk) 12:18, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

db
Happy to help. It means "delete," and, no, I can't explain the "b." Go here. You put db in –  and give a reason after a |. Then the admin knows you made an error and will delete your category. You can also use this on other people's categories, but only if you're really sure there can be no objection. Anyway, I've probably done this 100 times, about 99 of them because I screwed up. This template and a lot of others are described here. Have fun!--Mike Selinker 13:51, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
 * The b is for because: "Delete because | I made this category by accident". Best regards. ×Meegs 00:27, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

On the "Crown Princess" title
I didn't mean to lump you into a badly generalized cluster of "English-language press" when I said that people were mislabelling Princess Sirindhorn as a Crown Princess. Its just that the Wikipedia article on her calls her by that title, and google searches for ("Crown Princess" Sirindhorn) reveal over a thousand references. So even if it is wrong, it seems to be a common misconception. Thanks for righting it in the article. Patiwat 05:20, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

One would have to say that if "Crown Princess Sirindhorn" gets over 1000 hits then that is the established English usage and that has to be recognised even if it is wrong in Thai. Adam 13:15, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Look like it is recognized in the body of the article under future succession and in a recent edit on Maha Chakri Sirindhorn's own article. - Wisekwai 14:02, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

Pantip.com
No problem.--Fil e  Éireann 18:02, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Hello, I added the top ten sites into the article Pantip.com ranking by Alexa already. This should solve the problem --Manop - TH 21:10, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Hello krub, in responding to your messege. I have compiled some sources (in Thai) of the origin of pantip.com, and I will rewrite the wiki page soon. It will be more detailed and structured.--B.F.Pinkerton 19:28, 20 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Thanks for help editing na krub --B.F.Pinkerton 00:06, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Thai Wikipedia
Hello, Thai WP community's planning to have a meeting in Bangkok. So you might be interested in. I don't know that you can read Thai or not. But you can check it out at th:วิกิพีเดีย:สภากาแฟ (โครงการวิกิพีเดีย) --Manop - TH 20:18, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

Pedicab/Cycle rickshaw
Hi; I'm sure you saw my edits and comments on Cycle rickshaw and I hope you enjoy my bio stuff on Talk:Cycle rickshaw; which can be deleted later as un-encyclopedic but it was meant as a commentary on the SD stuff as well as on riding/social conditions in Asia. I have to go out right now but I'll improve the English in the San Diego section and try and condense it some later tonight or tomorrow; don't know who these guys are but I understand why they wrote it; as in my own comments on the talk page it's actually fairly POV, just overdone. I'm leaving this message, however, to let you know I'll try and get pix and specs of the big heavy-duty bikes used by www.kabukikabs.com (I'm friends with the owner) and see if I can scare up any pictures of the Expo fleet, which at the time was North America's biggest. I don't know about the SD claim that there are "hundreds" in that city; there's not enough room; we had sixty and that's in a bigger downtown than SD's; hundreds of riders maybe; I think there were hundreds in Waikiki/Honolulu but I never worked over there; they got shut down for being involved in drug-dealing and prostitution.Skookum1 21:59, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Thx for the reply; which part of BKK are you in anyway? I miss the place, hot and smelly though it is. I always stayed in the Tower Inn on Silom, often eating at the open-air seafood joints around there. If you happen to be on the street opposite the Hindu Temple, there's a portly (well, OK, really fat) Chinese-Thai lady about the third or fourth stall on the right who makes incredible oyster omelettes where I always used to eat; tell her the big blond farang from Canada who used to eat there whenever he was in town 1996-2001 says hi and hopes all her kids are doing good. How much does a pedicabber make daily down there anyway? Not that my body can handle it; just curious. Pondering living in Pattaya for part of the winter, too...(into weight-training/bodybuilding, and that's sorta "muscle beach" for Asia); probably nicer in Koh Samui but I gotta have a good gym (and pharmacy)Skookum1 22:27, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Most recent response just now on my page. Been thinking of a Pedicab Forum somewhere; where pedicabbers and ex-pedicabbers and customers can tell their stories, run their beefs etc; not sure if a Wiki sandbox is suitable but I like Wikicode; or a separate blog somewhere maybe. Waddya think? Could be fun, and interconnect and reconnect a lot of people maybe....Skookum1 08:04, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Loso/Sek Loso
My opinion would be merging Sek Loso into Loso article. Much of story about Loso involves around Sek. Also Loso bass guitarist (Apirat) already left Farenheit and seen playing for Sek in some concerts. Maybe he plays for Sek's upcoming album (will know when his album is released). -- Lerdsuwa 11:07, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
 * The "Pantip" song refers to Pantip Plaza. The song talks about him dating a girl, going to shopping centers, World Trade Center (now Central World Plaza), MBK, Siam Square - any place but Pantip Plaza because he doesn't want to see music piracy.
 * For the sales figures, it just came from record companies and their distributors. -- Lerdsuwa 10:02, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Infobox Help
Hi. I'm still having that problem on Angels in the Endzone article. Could you please check it out. I'll place another post on the Wikiproject films talk page. --walkingencyclopedia 20:43, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the help on that infobox
I just wanna say thanks for fixing that infobox on Angels in the Endzone. I couldn't have done it w/o you. I had a so much hard time with that. So, in appreciation, I gave you a barnstar. Congrats! --walkingencyclopedia 22:04, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

"Brunei is in Southeast Asia"
Well, that's embarrassing... - CrazyRussian talk/email 17:12, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

Stub sorting Barnstar
Greetings. There is a Barnstar for stub-sorting up for proposal here. If you'd like to participate in the discussion, we'd much appreciate it. Thanks, and have a great days. :) SynergeticMaggot 18:21, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

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South Asia news
Thanks Wisekwai, I appreciate your help. Recently (four days ago), I created Portal:Indonesia and decided to put some news on the portal, as well as the south east asian page. Hey, probably you could take a look at the portal and comment on it on featured wikiportal candidates. Cheers mate -- Imo eng  12:49, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Reply
Hello. Please check your e-mail for my reply. Regards, *drew 11:38, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

Cut and paste move
Hello, you should have do the proper move function using the move tab and not the cut and paste way. Since the redirect was already there, you could have asked an admin to move it for you. It will be a better thing to do than a cut and paste move. Just letting you know. --Ter e nce Ong (T 12:39, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

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 * Oops, never mind, I guess this isn't an orphan. For some reason Noo Hin: The Movie doesn't show up on the bottom of the image description page. —Bkell (talk) 13:13, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Yes, well, I was noticing that on some other images earlier today. But all seems well now. –Wisekwai 13:45, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

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Been watching the news...
I know the general public usually isn't "in the way" in these things down there, so I assume you're safe; just thinking in your direction. We'd been considering a trip there sometime this winter; I doubt the military government would try to restrict tourism anyway, if it lasts, but we may not have the dough anyway. Best wishes during all this; and hope you'll find some time for some Thai pedicab/cycle rickshaw tales/adventures from the streets or wherever it is you ride/rode.Skookum1 02:24, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

GTalk?
Hello, do you use GTalk, since you use Gmail? --Ter e nce Ong (T 09:08, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Thus far, I've had no one willing to Gtalk with me. I'll sign in and give it try. -Wisekwai 09:18, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
 * I added you on GTalk already, do sign in if you are online now. --Ter e nce Ong (T 14:01, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

re: Malaysian news
Well, perhaps sugar shortage, or Ramadan or Malaysian cosmonauts. Anyway, I hope you're alright in Thailand. __earth (Talk) 12:32, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

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&mdash; Chowbok  ☠  21:53, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

Images
No, that will only delay the day of reckoning. What you need to do, if you want to preserve those images, is to make a convincing argument why replacement images can't ever reasonably expected to be created. &mdash; Chowbok  ☠  18:36, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Piping Thai names
_ _ Thanks, and sorry if my terseness seemed dismissive or otherwise rude. _ _ I think it's important for me to distinguish between the facts of Thai practice with names (your account of which i didn't mean to question) and the question of what WP should do with Thai names in (at least) these situations, which are potentially all different: Let me clarify & discuss for a moment the subsequent-reference case (tho IMO it's not controversial in this case, it illustrates some principles):
 * piping Cats
 * titling bio articles
 * LoPbN entries (where, in my incessantly expressed and acted-upon opinion, it's a good thing to have multiple entries to assist people who are following conventions that are not the most common -- because either the most common convention is wrong, or it's correct but ignorance of it is widespread)
 * subsequent references (in articles of all kinds).
 * _ _ With names of Americans, Britons, Canadians, and Anzacs, of European ethnic background, who are known predominantly by the given and sur-names they were born with, we have a clear policy (probably without exceptions other than where there's no issue of confusing them with someone who's also mentioned in the article and shares the surname) for what happens after using, once, a "full" form of their name (e.g., John Kennedy, John F. Kennedy, or John Fitzgerald Kennedy): we then refer to them using "he", "she", or just their surname. (I'm vague abt the New York Times' current standard; i can recall the time when they went from using titles in all subsequent refs -- Mr. Wales, Dr. Kissinger, Pres. Lincoln -- to denying organized crime figures any title, e.g. (hypothetically) "...but District Attorney Morgenthau said that Gotti's claims were a bluff...". Or maybe those who were testifying against the mob started getting "Mr." when their deal was announced.)
 * _ _ Thus many fan-written articles, that imitate press releases and fan behavior by calling the subject by first name or even nickname, need correction. (When i'm in the right mood, i've summarized "not your buddy" when fixing them.) Your answers satisfy me that that error is not involved (as i speculated in the back of my mind; it's not usually a high priority for me) in the subsequent references to "Petchara" in Petchara Chaowarat: IMO that is probably correct -- tho on that assumption, i'd rather have the second reference read something like
 * Petchara (referring to her by that given name is Thai custom, since a Thai second name -- "Chaowarat", in her case -- is not, in contrast to European and East-Asian surnames, used without the corresponding given name)
 * probably with a lk to our best treatment of Thai naming (perhaps a section of a reorganized Family name, or of an article (to be lk'd from that one) about alternatives to family names?)

My point is that different situations deserve different answers to the question "which name or names, in which order?". A crucial factor for titles is that Rdrs can supplement the title, and within articles, that there's room for nuancing language such as i suggest just above; IMO the LoPbN answer is "the full name, and in all orders likely to be tried by users". A Sandbox experiment suggests that all but the last tag for a given Cat are ignored, so (for now, and there are arguments against changing that) the  answer for Cats has to include "only one order", and IMO that one has to be the one most often used by our (English-speaking, including ESL) users. IMO the main question is whether the answer is the same for, e.g., Thai actors whose films are released
 * only in Thai,
 * also with English subtitles, and
 * also dubbed into English.

It's quite plausible to argue that bios for at least the first group will be very seldom sought by users who won't anticipate using Thai naming conventions for alphabetizing. --Jerzy•t 02:11, 17 November 2006 (UTC) Great, hope it turns out to be more useful than annoying. I've added the page to my watch list, and will try to recall to pay more attention than i do to most of my watchlist. Thanks again. --Jerzy•t 06:00, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

Blues Brothers
Nice work on the merge and subsequent cleanup. *Spark* 18:39, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

Chowbok RfC
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