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Speedy deletion of Sails Capital
A tag has been placed on Sails Capital requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a company or corporation, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, as well as our subject-specific notability guideline for companies and corporations.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding  to the top of the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the page that would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Lastly, please note that if the page does get deleted, you can contact one of these admins to request that they userfy the page or have a copy emailed to you. —StaticVision (talk) 05:38, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

Gravity Entertainment
Thanks for your message. No need to use caps in your posts. Some responses: Now to the WP:BLP problem. Your article alleges potentially criminal behaviour by individuals and companies. It does so without any sources except blog entries and a single link to a government website which confirms only that a company has been sanctioned in two US states. To quote from the BLP policy: Unsourced or poorly sourced contentious material about living persons—whether the material is negative, positive, or just questionable—should be removed immediately and without waiting for discussion.'
 * Blogs are not reliable sources. Documents posted on blogs may (or may not) be accurate copies of the originals, but to put their verifiability beyond doubt they need linking or referencing from the original source or from another source that meets the RS requirements (for example, a mainstream media outlet).
 * I have no idea whether the material on Sarah Fisher's website is true or not, as I've never heard of her outside of this article and your post above. Its not a question of truth but of what can be confirmed by reliable sources (that phrase again). Blogs and personal websites are not considered reliable by Wikipedia.
 * I have never heard of Gravity Entertainment, outside of the poorly sourced article you created here.
 * Lastly, this is an encyclopedia, not an anti-scam advocacy website. I applaud people who try to warn others of scams, but they need to do so in the appropriate venues.

If you can find reliable sources to support the material you want to include, go right ahead and put it back in. But as long as you're sourcing it only from blogs, it fails the above test and will be removed.


 * Happy to discuss further if you wish, or you can raise it at the biographies of living persons noticeboard -- Euryalus (talk) 05:02, 22 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Dear Euryalus, thank you for your informative response. Let me state first, my usage of “caps” was not intended to shout at anybody, nor did I ever want to insult somebody. Second, the article in question (Gravity) was not created by me and was poorly sourced from scratch.   However, exact same initial Wiki-article was (mis-)used to prove legitimacy to potential investors of Gravity Entertainment. So the entry was questionable from the beginning. Since people looking for this company would find the Wiki-article well listed with search engines, they might have gotten a false impression about an enterprise. I know of people who have lost quite a lot of money. I have done my share of alerting the public and tried to put some effort into it. All documents (also given with the mentioned blog) are court documents and subject to maintenance by the clerk of the court in the relevant districts the judgments were obtained - the regular legal procedure would be to call up the mentioned district courts to verify the documents, but I guess we will not include phone numbers as proper Wiki-references. I am done with these scam artists and have no intention to put more effort in it than I have already made. I am sorry for the inconvenience I have caused to you and would still want to honestly thank you for your administrative efforts. I know too good, how difficult of a job it is to keep order … which also applies to restricting and regulation public information according to policies as provided with Wiki’s. Good luck for you future! WiVictim 05:05, 23 March 2009 (UTC)