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Donmeh West and other topics
Thanks so much for your very nice post. It seems to me that we have a lot in common, in more than one area. I am currently a student as well, in the United States. What is your field? I have 2 fields, Biology and Computer Science. Do you have any specific questions about evolution or any other aspect of your science club, by the way? If you can let me know what they are, then I'd be able to understand better how to help you. For example, do you want a list of evolution and other science topics to discuss at club meetings, or a few leads to possible articles for your science journal?

FYI, I have professional biology publications. I originally became involved with the Wikimedia Foundation because I was trying to get OR (Original Research) about evolution more active on Wikiversity, and help develop Wikiversity as a forum for OR. I'll have more time to do this after December 23, when I'm on break from University. I can keep you posted if you would like.

Regarding the Donmeh: That is so cool, that Freely is a professor at your University! He writes very well and seems to have an eye for interesting topics. Are you a Donmeh yourself? Does your Username have any connection with Shabbatai, because it looks so similar to me? Also, do you know whether Shabbatai was involved in any social justice activities, because this is a topic I'm very curious about? Thanks, AFriedman   (talk)  19:52, 18 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Hi thanks for the reply. I am studying Taching Chemistry. "Biology and Computer Science" you must be a very smart student. It is great honor to me talking someone like you. I like reading spesific topics about evolution such as connection between evolution and anaerobic recpiration(I also want to add this to article Anaerobic respiration article on Wikipedia. I really want to read your articles and disscus them with my friends in science club. Maybe under your permission we can publish one of them.


 * As I said before my department is Teaching Chemistry. Wikiversity can be a very good opportunity to teach Chemistry on internet. I would like to be part of this project after finshing my exams.


 * My username has connection both with my surname and him. I dont know wheter I am Donmeh or not. as you know Donmeh people assimilated in a Turkish society to some extend. However I really admire people who wnat to make some cahnges on religion and Amirah tried to do it for Judaism and whole world, I appreciate that as a secular person. He also gave important rights to women that was so important. When I read the book "The Messiah of Ismir Sabbatai Sevi" I realized he was a great reformer like Ataturk(founder of modern Turkey). I will tell to Yalhak your vital helps to keep donmeh west article.:)If you have fb account I can privede connection. He was very happy for seeing article on Wikipedia. Immediately sahared it with his friends. :)--Abbatai (talk) 11:01, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

Hello! I'm about to email you some articles I think you might be interested in, in terms of what you said you wanted to see your science club discuss. The evolution of anaerobic respiration is not my main area of specialty, but I hope what I'm sending is helpful to you. I'm also sending you an article about a very different topic that I wrote. My other scientific publications have not come out yet.

Also, it's nice that you like people who try to reform religions. Judaism, my own religion, is actually changing a lot in the U.S.A. where I live. It's very exciting to see some of the changes, and to think about what else could be re-envisioned. Shabbetai, by the way, is one of my inspirations. I don't know how many practicing Jewish people you know, or what Jewish life is like in Turkey. In terms of modern Judaism, you may be interested in the articles about Reform Judaism and Conservative Judaism, which are very popular in the U.S.A. One of the main reasons they developed was that many people wanted branches of Judaism that gave more rights to women. There are also groups within Orthodox Judaism that are moving in the same direction, such as Modern Orthodox Judaism and the Jewish Orthodox Feminist Alliance. Karaite Judaism, which dates at least to medieval times, is a very egalitarian branch in general and has had not too many problems with women's participation for quite a long time, although there aren't too many Karaites in the U.S.A. There's a nice section on French Wikipedia about women in Karaite Judaism, which I hope will eventually be moved to English Wikipedia. What did Shabbetai specifically do for women's rights?

Also, I'm already in contact with Yalhak, who seems like he does a lot of very interesting things on behalf of Shabbetai's historical legacy. But I'd still appreciate your speaking with him about me. -- AFriedman  (talk)  02:16, 20 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Sorry I couldnt reply because of my exams. Thanks for article.It seems you are almost an expert about this issue. For next term meetings I am planning to add you article to issues to be discussed.


 * There are approximately 25,000 Jews in Turkey mostly live in Istanbul in which there are hundred of synagoges. I have a Jewish friend but he doesnt prtactise very much at all but I do know many jews in Turkey are very religious. In the city where my family live there is a jewish quarter. See Kırklareli Jewish Quarter. Reform Judaism seems really good. Do you know I strongly support Liberal movements within Islam. I think religions are essential for societies if they are not politicized. Using religion as a political tool can devestage our civilization. Therefore we should think religion and other things that influence our life differently. During Amirah's era he usually put women and men in the same label. Women enjoyed being equal to men in the many fields of life, and in the life of his fallowers, women occupy much higher position compered to other Jews or Turks. The first Turkish feminist Halide Edip Adıvar was a donmeh.--Abbatai (talk) 02:14, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, and interesting. Best of luck on your exams! When do they end? Also, since we're possibly going off topic for a User talk page I'm answering you by email. -- AFriedman  (talk)  23:01, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

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Best of luck on exams! I was thinking of you, and felt that your Talk page deserved something nice. Great job starting the Donmeh West and Kirklareli Jewish Quarter articles, and I'm sure other nice articles as well! -- AFriedman  (talk)  16:16, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Donmeh West


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 * Just to let you know, someone else has removed the proposed deletion tag. -- AFriedman   (talk)  18:54, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

Constantinople vs Istanbul
Abbatai, thanks for reverting edits to the Halide Edip article. But I don't want to be involved in any edit wars. Please add your thoughts regarding the city's name to the talk page. The question is, What should people writing in English call the city when referring to events that happened 1453-1930? Sağ olun. DNYHCA (talk) 16:38, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Nicknames
What do you think about Mehmet Özdilek's nickname? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mehmet_%C3%96zdilekKavas (talk) 12:07, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

Welcome back
Welcome back to Wikipedia! Always nice to see you. -- La comadreja  formerly AFriedman  RESEARCH  (talk)  02:38, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks, your new nickname sounds good. I just created a Wikiversity account and added a new page. Take care.--Abbatai 15:27, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

Need help
I am new in editing articles on Wikipedia so I dont know how to approach this but I noticed your comments in the article Igdir so here I go: the article of the of Malazgirt is specifically only regarding the Armenian genocide & has absolutely no information regarding the town itself. It is in my opinion heavily POV & I dont know if I can or should just go ahead and modify it after having left a comment on the page nor do I know how to approach a higher wiki staff member regarding this. Any help/guidance you can offer me will be appreciated in advance. AussieSkeptic82 (talk) 16:12, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for commenting on my page. I have also found discrepancies on the article regarding the Hagia Sophia. The article states that the Hagia Sophia was subject to 3 days of pillaging yet it also states that it was also converted instantly to a mosque. This is highly peculiar given the Ottoman respect to other religions and other sources of information (internationally circulated) that I have read regarding the subject is that Constantinople did not suffer the pillaging the article seems to suggest. Indeed the article contradicts itself given what is known about the respect Muslims have towards their centers of worship and the described actions the article states. AussieSkeptic82 (talk) 03:41, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

Articles you started
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Edit wars
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 * Thanks, sorry for this. I will check now--Abbatai 21:18, 12 February 2011 (UTC)

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Your Neturality
Hi, I checked your contributions to Wikipedia. Although your works are quite impressive, I noticed you are neither an anti-Turkish individual or a self orientalist tries to get admire from westerners by criticizing Turkey every means possible. What is the logic behind creating this there is already an article covering the issue thanks.Abbatai 12:19, 25 June 2011 (UTC)
 * I tried to write the article Greek landing at Smyrna with military and oriented contents. Many users who are interested in the Greco-Turkish War are focusing on its atrocities and massacres too much. There are uncomfortable situations in some articles related with Greco-Turkish issues (cf. Talk:Greco-Turkish War (1919–1922)). I'm going to start the article with the topic of the dismissal of Nureddin Pasha. Do you know following eppisode ? Evimizin kapısına gelen memleket gençleri heyecanlı sesleriyle haykırıyorlardı: "Vatanını seven Yahudi maşatlığı'na gelsin".... Türkçe biliyorsunuz herhalede. Yani o madde ile biraz (biraz değil de bayağı) ayrıntılı ama önemli bilgileri aktarmaya çalışacağım. Thank you. Takabeg (talk) 19:36, 25 June 2011 (UTC)
 * P.S. Do you have any opinions / ideas on this problem ? Takabeg (talk) 21:54, 25 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks for kind reply. First of all my concern about the article is that once some Greek nationalists tried to move the Occupation of Smyrna to the Greek landing in Smyrna and write a Greek version of story as they taught in Greece. So I thought your article can assist them. Secondly in the article there was one sentence only saying it is also called Greek invasion of Smyrna. As we see there is no difference between two. Now after reading your comment on talk page I see your position but still think it is better add the information to the main article to avoid further conflicts.


 * Unfortunately, in both Turkey and Greece the same history is told in different ways. But I see the western approach to Turkey uneven and found Wikipedia quite anti-Turkish, the Turkish counterarguments either neglected or looked down.


 * Well, the problem about Turkish people and Turkishness is that although being a Turk described as being a citizen of Turkey the historic background of the word disregarded, from elementary school to university we are taught Turks come from Central Asia and we expect Kurds and other non-Turks to say "How happy to say I am a Turk". That is very problematic. Therefore like everyone I am also confused. Since, I know some Kurds who never accept Turkish identity. Thanks Abbatai 11:35, 26 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Ek olarak: If you read this article, I think you would be sure that the "Landing of Greek Troops in Izmir" is only a part of the "Occupation of Izmir and Adjoining Teritories". Takabeg (talk) 11:51, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

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Pictures
Hi Takabeg, it is better for you check this pictures also Thanks.--Abbatai 23:28, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Hi Abbatai. I added to Children_puppy_sulaimania.jpg. Takabeg (talk) 23:50, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

Your new article Nesli Çölgeçen
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I have started a topic of discussion at the talk page. I hope you can join it, instead of edit-warring. Étienne Dolet (talk) 19:32, 7 April 2016 (UTC)

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 * Abbatai has violated his topic ban in a pretty disruptive way: Étienne Dolet (talk) 08:52, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
 * @User:EtienneDolet stop wikidrama. Just read what I wrote. Urartu history of Turkey has nothing to do with this ban. The sentence says ancient civlizations so Urartu is the correct wording there, Armenians are not ancient civlization. Better you revert your POV. Abbatai 08:59, 27 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Armenians, just like Assyrians, are an ancient people. You cannot remove the word Armenia and replace it with Urartu so as to hide that fact, especially when you're banned from doing so. Étienne Dolet (talk) 09:03, 27 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Stop following me get a life. Abbatai 09:04, 27 May 2016 (UTC)

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 * And can I just add, Abbatai, chiming in with EdJohnston, that it would be a very good idea for you to not seek confrontations with ED by, for instance, going to talk pages or articles where they are editing and arguing with them. Whether you're right or wrong, it doesn't make you look good. Thank you, Drmies (talk) 02:39, 28 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks will consider this.Abbatai 06:50, 28 February 2017 (UTC)
 * EdJohnston,Drmies And I hope the same goes for ED as well. See this seems he is the one following me actually with his mate Tiptoe. Thanks --Abbatai 00:08, 17 April 2017 (UTC)


 * I wish would refrain from snarky stuff such as "care to explain", but I don't yet see how that comment is a violation. Tiptoe's comment is as neutral as it should be--no battleground behavior. I'm not inclined to see this (yet) as hounding, since both those editors are, if I remember correctly, interested in Armenian matters. EdJohnston, do you see something that I don't see? Drmies (talk) 18:57, 17 April 2017 (UTC)
 * I crossed out the "care to explain" bit. Didn't realize I was being snarky. Also, I've had this page watchlisted for a long time, with my first edit being in 2014, long before Abbatai's first ever edit on that article. I'd appreciate it if Abbatai's mainspace edits can be examined as well. Abbatai, who apparently is fluent in Turkish, left out an important qualifier from the source which states that the killings of women and children were an accident. However, in his edit, he made it seem it was intentional. The misrepresentation of sources is a big no-no, especially when it comes to controversial claims (i.e. the killing of women and children). Étienne Dolet (talk) 19:17, 17 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Drmies (talk) 19:24, 17 April 2017 (UTC)

Drmies So I should not edit the pages ED edits but it is ok if vice versa happens. Honestly, I couldn't get how it works. Thanks. ED there is not any misrepresentation of the source. It is you misunderstood the sentence. The long noun clause "Ermeni çetecilerinin gece yarısı kör ateşi" means "blind fire of Armenian guerrillas at night". It is not "gece yarısı körü ateşi". Thanks. And please stop accusing me with misrepresentation before seeing my explanation. Thanks. Abbatai 01:11, 18 April 2017 (UTC)
 * You two are not under an interaction ban. There is no rule against y'all editing the same article. The AE determination was about battleground behavior, and hounding can be part of that--but here, and I think ED explained this well enough also, there was no hounding (intentionally following someone someplace to harass them). The only behavior that seemed out of line to me was that one comment which they struck, so as far as I'm concerned, you two are good to go as long as you keep it civil. Drmies (talk) 02:44, 18 April 2017 (UTC)
 * OK, got it. Thanks. Abbatai 08:08, 18 April 2017 (UTC)

WP:NOTAFORUM
To clarify: my remark actually is not just some remark it's a Shakespeare quote, it has to do with the topic at hand. As in, whether he was a neocon or an imperialist, it's still the same but though the name has changed. Please don't remove it. Étienne Dolet (talk) 18:00, 24 April 2017 (UTC)

It is nice of you use such a quote in that hot debate. However, all this neocon discussion does not belong to Khanasor talk page. That's why I removed your edit. Thanks. Abbatai 18:21, 24 April 2017 (UTC)


 * What do you mean? Of course it does, especially when it pertains to the reliability of a source that is being considered of being used in an article. Étienne Dolet (talk) 18:38, 24 April 2017 (UTC)


 * How do we know he was neocon? Or is there any Wikipedia rule that we should not use neocon writes' books as a source. Additionally, here is the testimony of Cyrus Hamlin (a christian missionary in Istanbul) saying that Armenian revolutionaries were provoking such atrocities. So, seems he might be right about his claims. Thanks. Abbatai 18:51, 24 April 2017 (UTC)

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Proposed deletion of Donmeh West


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Proposed deletion of Yakov Leib HaKohain


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Nomination of Kırklareli Jewish quarter for deletion
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