User talk:Woland37/Archives/2008/February

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Just a moment to say (1) I really, really appreciate your attempts to reason with Cesar Tort, (2) when I read what he wrote that left you speechless, I spent about five minutes ttrying to figure out hat Icould write to be supportive of you but the fact is I was literally left speechless and have no idea still wheree to begin by way of response ... and also from the little I have seen you do not strike me as the kind of person who needs support, but let me just register here my desire to be supportive of you at least in this one case where Tort has I think crossed a personal line, and (3) I really welcome your participation in Wikipedia in general and hope that you will help us improve anthropology articles. Many years ago I put a fair amount of work into a handful of articles and I have to say just felt burned out. there are not enough editors here who care about anthropology and are well-informed and I am glad you are here. Slrubenstein  |  Talk 19:27, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

I have always tried to get people to distinguish between cultural and moral relativism. But the key thing with your attempts with Cesar is, (1) WP:V, verifiability not truth; any claim about cultural relativism must be verifiable (not true), (2a) WP:NPOV, we represent all points of view and they must be clearly identified i.e make clear what is de Mause's view of cultural relativism versus anthropologists views and (2b) NPOV requires us only to include notable views ... sadly, the non-anthropologist's view of cultural relativism is wide-spread and thus notable ... but it must be clearly identified as non-anthropological, (2c) WP:DUE, we give due weight to views, and distinguish between majority and minority views, (2d) WP:FRINGE, we do not have to include fringe views. I doubt you can educate Cesar about cultural relativism but he has to learn Wikipedia policies. Good luck. Slrubenstein  |  Talk 18:11, 3 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Hi Woland. Re the copyedit "Its occurrence is well documented" in Ritualized child abuse I agree with your removal. Originally I was tempted to state something like "Unlike the 1980s and '90s SRA claims, its occurrence is well documented". But I thought that would be provocative :) Cesar Tort 00:29, 14 February 2008 (UTC)


 * I just wanted to mention that the reason why the above article was created is explained here. —Cesar Tort 15:13, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Is this (unrelated to Cesar Tort) another speechless moment at Wikipedia? Slrubenstein  |  Talk 12:15, 20 February 2008 (UTC)


 * I don't even know what to say about that...--Woland (talk) 15:23, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Well, that particular user seems not to have made any other editors - seems like a single-purpose account. Perhaps I should have ignored him from the start ... Slrubenstein  |  Talk 19:14, 23 February 2008 (UTC)