User talk:WoodCarves

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Wilmette Golf Club (June 12)
 Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by KylieTastic was:

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KylieTastic (talk) 20:54, 12 June 2022 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your response Kyle. I'll look for more sources on this 100 year old golf course that is a foundation of the community and visited by tens of thousands of golfers every year.
 * While I do so, can you help me understand how Cantigny Golf Club, a less historic course only built in 1986, with even less sources than my article, passes muster? Thank you. WoodCarves (talk) 21:45, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately their are a lot of articles in main-space that either are not notable or are but do not have the sources to show that they are. The difference is that new articles are now more vetted up front via the Draft/Articles for creation process or via New pages patrol. For new articles it's for the submitters to show notability but for existing ones any editor would need to look for sources first to see if the subject is notable or not. If not they then either flag for a speedy delete (for some specific conditions) or send to Articles for deletion for discussion. In the case of Cantigny Golf Club it was created before controls in 2015 but now it would be declined as a newly submitted draft for not showing notability. More often that not when someone notes that similar articles exist the existing article is deleted or improved but it does not help new articles. I'm too tired to check fully but I have just flagged it for notability and sources as it is sub-standard. Hope that made some sense - Regards KylieTastic (talk) 22:10, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi Kyle,
 * Thanks for this.
 * Good news: I found some excellent source material for the history of Wilmette golf club, in the form of the Chicago Tribune archives from 1922 on.
 * Bad news: It's all behind a paywall on the site newspapers.com.
 * Will these suffice, if I use the (Subscription required) template with them? WoodCarves (talk) 19:07, 13 June 2022 (UTC)


 * Hey, do note that many editors do not watch or watch for long pages they have edited so either post on someone talk page or use Help:Notifications (pings) (when you link someones user name and sign an edit). However your in luck as I do try to watch for a day of two after posting :). Firstly sources do not have to be online, however it is preferred so reviewers can check and readers can view if/when accepted. Do you have access to newspapers online? If so you can clip articles and they are then open access. If you don't I can grab a few if you give details - like and . Searching for "Wilmette Golf Club" I get 706 results and with many "run of the mill" I'm not going to do that. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 19:21, 13 June 2022 (UTC)

Concern regarding Draft:Wilmette Golf Club
Hello, WoodCarves. This is a bot-delivered message letting you know that Draft:Wilmette Golf Club, a page you created, has not been edited in at least 5 months. Drafts that have not been edited for six months may be deleted, so if you wish to retain the page, please edit it again&#32;or request that it be moved to your userspace.

If the page has already been deleted, you can request it be undeleted so you can continue working on it.

Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 21:05, 12 November 2022 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:Wilmette Golf Club


Hello, WoodCarves. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Wilmette Golf Club".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been deleted. If you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz Read! Talk! 21:21, 12 December 2022 (UTC)