User talk:WorkingBeaver

Continuation
User:Thunderbird2 removes replies without letting others respond and misrepresents their good faith edits as "harassment". I have the copied the reply below so it can be responded to if needed. WorkingBeaver (talk) 23:05, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
 * There was a substantial debate in the several months leading up to the April vote - I participated along with a dozen or so editors. With a clear 11-0 consensus I stopped watching the page assuming the issue was resolved.  A different set of editors then chose to ignore the existing consensus, restarted the debate and two or three months later overruled the prior set of editors with only one of the original 11 participating (ignoring of course, Fnagaton's apparent participation as David Paul Hamilton).
 * Nothing is being "shoved into article by MoS" - an internationally recognized unambiguous notation system usage is being precluded by an MoS policy manipulated by a small group of editors.
 * The argument that XiB shouldn't be used because "when a notation system isn't widely used or recognized ..." is sort of like saying an obscure word in dictionary can't be used.  Censorship, which is what this is should be offensive to all Wikipedia editors
 * Tom94022 (talk) 19:07, 23 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Substantial debate before the vote but then there was substantial debate after and consensus can change so this means to reference a vote when it is known there is more recent debate that rejects that vote is an example of this pointy behaviour.
 * Reading the archives I see no hint or hope of consensus for what you and Thunderbird2 want to happen. I do see consensus for the MoS as it is now.
 * It is not like saying an obscure word in the dictionary can't be used because that is nothing like what we are discussing. It is not censorship because the MoS does not say "never use XiB". What the MoS says follows the way Wikipedia echoes the world. WorkingBeaver (talk) 01:28, 24 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Tom94022 has read the message but has not replied . I assume this means Tom94022 has no other objections to the MoS text consensus. WorkingBeaver (talk) 00:06, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

I forgot my password
This WorkingBeaver account is now dead since I cannot login. So this is my new account. Glider87 (talk) 01:34, 30 March 2009 (UTC)