User talk:Wrad/Archive 4

1345 timeline
I see that you recently created the article 1345 timeline. Could you please explain to me what information that article contains or could contain that can't be covered in the article 1345? A ecis Brievenbus 21:15, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I just came across a message you left at Talk:1345, in which you said "A group of editors decided it would be interesting to try to get a random year article to FA status. This is what we've cooked up so far. Hopefully it catches on..." Could you show me where the discussion was held? The only thing I could find was a rejected/withdrawn proposal at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Years and a rejected proposal at the Village pump. A  ecis Brievenbus 21:20, 30 December 2007 (UTC)


 * It looks amazing. I's even suggest putting it through a peer review and then up for GA or FA. Also, a few other years should be converted to help the cause, perhaps something from the last few decades. - Trevor MacInnis (Contribs) 04:52, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I agree that the article 1345 looks very good, and that this is an interesting experiment that appears to have worked out very well. My compliments. Regarding the title of 1345 timeline: what would you say to using the word chronicle in the title? Something along the lines of Chronicle of 1345 or 1345 chronicle? Aecis·(away) talk 23:40, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

Featured Article of the Day
After watching the edit history of 2006 Chick-fil-A Bowl in just the few short hours that it's been up on the Main Page ... well, thank God for vandalism patrollers. JKBrooks85 (talk) 02:46, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

Happy New Year
Happy New Year! - Jameson L. Tai  talk ♦ contribs 05:54, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

I hereby award you...
Thanks! I'll put it on my wall. Wrad (talk) 20:05, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I just saw the thread on wikiEN-l and was thinking I should find a primary author to give a barnstar to -- and here I've been beaten to it! Excellent work, boldly pioneering with the simple idea, "prose over lists!" I hope this is an example others will be able to follow. – Luna Santin  (talk) 10:48, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

1345
Great work Wrad!!! It was a long time ago that I put this request and I am pleased to see it be realized. This article should serve as a model for all year, decades, centuries and millenium articles. I am also positive that prosing all year article will increase Wikipedia quality. When will you nominate it for FA? Again great work. CG (talk) 15:53, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

I have to say, great job on the article. Since you are already writing 1346, please remove Estonia and the other Baltic states from Eastern Europe (and Sweden too). You should call them Northern Europe (a region that consists of Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Iceland, Greenland, Faroe islands, Finland, Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania). Thanks H2ppyme (talk) 16:53, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Congratulations! Very nice job. --GwydionM (talk) 18:45, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Former Featured articles WikiProject
The project above which you had indicated an interest in joining at the WikiProject Council/Proposals page, is now active at WikiProject Former Featured articles. John Carter (talk) 18:10, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

Happy New Year
Thanks! Andy and I are quite a tandem team. Wrad (talk) 20:04, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

Peer Reviews
Happy New Year, Wrad! Remember me? Y'know, JS from Talk:Benvolio? Anyway, I'm registered now, so I thought I could solicit your assistance. I've submitted two articles for peer review, and thought that you might be of some help in critiquing them: I value your input. Thanks, and a Happy New Year to you! — Cinemaniac (talk •  contribs) 02:26, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Duck Soup. I've listed this article for peer review because, even though I and other editors have contributed much information and references, I'm certain that there are other aspects of this classic film that have yet to be covered. I'd like to hear feedback from you, so that I can get help in improving this (and other Marx Brothers films) quality.
 * Princess Leia Organa. I've listed this article for peer review because it right now seems oddly cluttered and, despite a lot of references as of now, lacks reliable source citations. Although I've already requested another peer review, as long as it helps the articles get better, I've got the time. Any helpful comments will certainly be appreciated, as this should help me in expanding other Star Wars-centric articles.


 * Thanks for the critique, but I'm having trouble understanding how to make the references you describe. — Cinemaniac (talk •  contribs) 00:48, 4 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Oh, OK! I think I get it now. Thank you. :) — Cinemaniac (talk  •  contribs) 16:22, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Common interests
Hi, Wrad, it would seem that we have common interests regarding the Bard: Macbeth, A Midsummer Night's Dream, and Henry V are my favorite tragedy, comedy, and history as well, although I have to say that I prefer The Tempest over Cymbeline as far as romances go. I saw it performed by the Royal Shakespeare Company when I was a young and impressionable thing and it's always stuck with me. :) Good luck with further Shakespeare-related Wiki endeavors!  Take care, María ( habla  con migo ) 22:56, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Barnstar
Thanks Andy! Wrad (talk) 22:01, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

DYK

 * Imagine my surprise when I saw a year article with that much prose! Excellent work, Wrad! Nishkid64 (talk) 20:56, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks. If you really do like it, you may want to say so on the article's talk page, though. I'm getting a lot of compliments on my page, but the article's talk page is a bit of a war. Wrad (talk) 22:00, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Stray 7
Hurrah!!!!!! -- R OGER D AVIES  talk 19:19, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

List of Shakespeare's works
OK then. I've only got an hour or so, but I'll start at the most obscure and work up. See how far we get! AndyJones (talk) 21:04, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
 * There we are. Done five of the less-well-known ones. I'll give them some more thought, obviously. Cymbeline without the Queen or Cloten is obviously missing something important, but I'm trying to limit myself to a few sentences. AndyJones (talk) 22:00, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

Red
I'm not really a scientist, but I do know a few online, so I'll ask around for some decent sources in a day or two.  Serendi pod ous  16:16, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

R&J
Hi. I haven't been very active in the FA drive, mainly because I've never liked the play much. One thing I did do (not very recently) was add a reference to Benda's opera on the subject. There's no WP article for the opera, but I could knock something up within the next few days (making special mention of the deviations from the play) and activate a link to it, if that would be useful. I actually saw this opera a year or so ago, and have the programme with a synopsis and an article. Any idea when the application for FA might be made?

Incidentally, I have a copy of the 4-vol New Grove Dictionary of Opera, which lists all the operas known to have been based on each Shakespeare play (it lists 25 for R&J, but one of those is West Side Story). I wonder vaguely whether an article entitled something like "List of operas based on plays by William Shakespeare" might be suitable for WP and useful for reference in future GA/FA applications? Most of them wouldn't have links to WP articles, though, mainly because most of their composers aren't very notable! But then, a list is just a list.

Best. --GuillaumeTell (talk) 22:38, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

Content review workshop
Wrad, how about starting that conversation at the talk page of the content review workshop instead? That's what that workshop is intended to be for. If you want to work with the Wikiproject, no problem, but the workshop has been active fairly recently and I think scored a win with the recent peer review automation. It also has made an effort to engage editors from different content review processes, to get broad perspective -- e.g. WP:LOCE, WP:1.0, WP:GA and so on. Just a suggestion. If you decide to go with the Wikiproject, I'd suggest at least posting a note at the workshop to let folks there know about it. Mike Christie (talk) 02:51, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
 * OK, that works. Thanks.  By the way, I just realized you're one of the people responsible for that absolutely outstanding 1345 article.  That's a simply awesome piece of work; congratulations.  Mike Christie (talk) 03:01, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I might submit that for CE help someday if the need arises, who knows? This really could expand our ability to get things done on Wikipedia. Wrad (talk) 03:02, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

14th century
Cool! I have some good source material, mostly stuff on the early roots of the European Renaissance, Middle Eastern history, and Chinese history. Shoot me a notice once you need help with these areas (sort of broad, I know, but feel free to ask for anything specific and I'll see what I can do).-- Pericles of Athens  Talk 03:42, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

The League of Copyeditors
Hi there, and thanks for your interest in the League. As I implied on the Content review/workshop page, I don't think the organisation of the requests system is now a problem - in fact, with a little bot-assistance, it seems to be going very well indeed. The issue is purely one of getting the job done - all those requests, and those left over from the old requests system, have to be dealt with. So if you really don't think you're cut out to be a copyeditor, I can only ask that you try and rally support from other editors who might. The only way the LOCE can operate is if we have a substantial member base to keep the backlog of requests to a very reasonable level. That way, the waiting time stays low and the League remains useful. At the same, time, the League is only as highly regarded as it is because it doesn't sacrifice quality for quantity, or thoroughness for efficiency. So if you can put on your copyediting hat, dive in; if you really don't think you can manage it, then try and find others who can. Thanks for your support. Happy‑melon 22:18, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Green Knight
Do you want to exchange peer reviews? Rupert Clayton and I have put up Boydell Shakespeare Gallery for peer review and I noticed you put up the Sir Gawain.... Awadewit | talk  21:47, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

SGGK
Killer. I'll be sure to do whatever I can to help.--Cúchullain t/ c 00:20, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

Medieval translations
I'm not sure what to do with that...maybe the best place would be medieval literature. Adam Bishop (talk) 17:59, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

Gawain refs
If further questions arise about the citations, give me a buzz. As you have seen, I know something about citations and the MOS but not by any means everything. I think what we have now is reasonable, but it's entirely possible that others may not agree. If that happens, it should not be hard to accommodate them. Finetooth (talk) 18:03, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks
for reviewing Dartmouth Medical School. GA can be a bit of a thankless job, I appreciate your contribution to it. Dylan (talk) 03:23, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
 * No problem. Wrad (talk) 03:24, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Delay on PR
I'm afraid that I'm going to have to delay the reread on Sir Gawain until the weekend. I hope this is ok. I'm quite busy right now and I need to write that pesky dissertation. :) Awadewit | talk  01:31, 23 January 2008 (UTC)


 * I see Scartol has added a peer review on Sir Gawain and the Green Knight. I think it would be best if I waited to do my reread until all of those minor prose issues have been cleaned up. How about we aim for next Wednesday or Friday? Would that be enough time? Awadewit | talk  22:56, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

Sonnets
Hey man, thanks for cleaning my recording of Sonnet 18 up. Is there any chance you could do the same for my recording of Sonnet 141? Also, could you describe the process you used to clean the file up so I can do it myself next time? – PeeJay 00:59, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I'll try re-recording it tomorrow afternoon. No time just now. Thanks for the advice though. – PeeJay 01:13, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

FA Team
Hi Wrad. I'm wondering two things: These are related: if the latter can capture some of what we are trying to achieve at WT:CRW right now, it could be a subpage/subproject/taskforce of the former, and possibly engage more activity in your idea to regenerate the FA WikiProject. If not, I'm happy to leave it in my user space as (arguable) humour :) Geometry guy 20:18, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
 * How are you getting on with WP:WFA?
 * What do you think of my semi-joke User:Geometry guy/The FA-Team?

Date style change at Jesus
Hi, Wrad. I will not edit war over this, but instead urge you to self-revert the change at Jesus back to the (admittedly more clumsy) style of BC/BCE and AD/CE style. I think your intentions are good but it's way too premature to be insisting that there is any consensus for the change to BCE/CE. For the sake of peace and a productive discussion, please restore to the longstanding compromise version until the discussion can have its due course. Thanks, alanyst /talk/ 02:26, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I won't restore it to the a version that violates MoS. I'm surprised that you don't acknowledge that the rules are very clear on what to do and just let it go. I'm sure you don't really care what the dates say. Wrad (talk) 02:29, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Do you regard the MoS as ironclad rules, or do you think there are times when legitimate exceptions can be made? I believe the latter, and think that the established compromise at Jesus was a pragmatic solution to a thorny problem that had caused ongoing edit wars.  It's not perfect, certainly, and I don't think anyone was perfectly happy with it, but that's the nature of compromise: everyone gives a little for the sake of the community.  Would you be willing to consider this a possibly exceptional case, and restore the compromise version until further discussion takes place? alanyst /talk/ 02:34, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

Hey, Wrad, I agree with you that it should be either BC or AD - one or the other, but I think a good point has been brought up on the talk page that we should probably wait a while before changing the article. In all fairness, it has been BC/CE a while. We should let others have a say before changing it on such short notice and starting edit wars. It can wait a few more days at least... Okiefromokla questions? 02:36, 27 January 2008 (UTC)


 * If you go against MoS then you re standing on shaky ground and leaving yourself open to more and more debate. If you follow MoS then you can refer everyone there if they have a problem and delete all year discussion from the talk page as unrelated to the topic. I have boldly offered a solution that I don't intend to change because I feel it is the best option. I did nothing wrong and I'm not going to change it back. I'm not going to revert again if someone changes it, either, though. Wrad (talk) 02:38, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

Good point. I've been thinking about making a push for Human as well. Maybe I should suggest something that will make a lot of people mad. Dolphins are smarter than people? Okiefromokla questions? 04:19, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

Sign-up
Hey Wrad. As you'd already informally agreed to be an FA helper, I thought you might sign-up here on FAC talk. I'd like to get up to ten or so, and then we can debut it. Cheers, Marskell (talk) 13:12, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

Randall Flagg
Thanks for passing it. :) J/w, do you think I could nominate it for FA or do you think it needs more before that happens?--CyberGhostface (talk) 02:02, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Sir Gawain and the Green Knight
So I have finally started on my second peer review of Sir Gawain - I posted my first comments on the talk page. Sorry it has taken me so long to get to this. The article looks much better, by the way. Awadewit | talk  02:32, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Murder Madness and Mayhem
Thanks for responding so quickly! Any help you could give would be fantastic. Most of us are new to Wikipedia and those technical issues are already coming up for me! On the other hand, if you have knowledge of the history/context of the Dictator novel, would love some help getting that up to FA status or at least GA! --Abarratt (talk) 03:02, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

Triple Crown
Thank you for contributions to the project, Great work, especially on Green and Hamlet - it's not always easy to get these sorts of general broad articles to quality status, and you've done good work here. May you wear the crowns well. Cirt (talk) 20:17, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

Asking for help on WiKUpedia project
Hi Wrad,

My name is Jarrod and I'm currently working on a project called WiKUpedia, with the goal of providing the one-stop shop for all things KU. We've had a tremendous response from the community since we went live on Sunday but we need help organizing and improving the wiki. We decided to reach out to experienced Wikipedia editors working on the WikiProject: Kansas. You can read a little more about our project in a news story in the Lawrence Journal World I know you mostly write about literary topics, but we would love your help to improve our wiki.

Please feel free to take a look around our project and if this sounds like something that interests you, please respond on my talk page or by [mailto:jarrod.morgenstern@gmail.com email]. Thank you so much in advance. Jarrodm (talk) 04:29, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

Murder and Mayhem
Wrad, did you get in touch with the people at that project? I think you said you were going to but I wasn't sure if you were in touch by email or just wiki posts, and I didn't see anything on the project. I'm happy to post a note there myself but I didn't want to preempt you if you were still planning to post something. Mike Christie (talk) 02:32, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I haven't done it yet, thanks for reminding me. Wrad (talk) 02:34, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Sorry. I'm in a bit of a wiki-slump right now. Wrad (talk) 00:05, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Walt Whitman GA
Hey, Wrad! I had a couple people look over the Walt Whitman article. Could you let me know if it's been sufficiently copy edited to pass GA? Otherwise, the request is still out for the League of Copy Editors - they may take some time and my guess is they won't find much that hasn't been caught. But, I defer to your judgment. Thanks, and hope all is well in your wiki-world! --Midnightdreary (talk) 04:48, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Hello again! Just checking in, making sure you saw this message. No rush! --Midnightdreary (talk) 00:04, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Hey, Wrad... you wanna give Walt Whitman another look and see if we can get its review off "on hold"? It's since been copy edited by the League of Copy Editors. I'm going to be out of town for a few days so I won't be able to take action after tomorrow. Just FYI. I've got two GA reviews going on at once and I'm trying to expedite the process a bit. Let me know! --Midnightdreary (talk) 13:45, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

FA-Team and first mission (MMM)
Dear Wrad,

Many thanks for volunteering to join the FA-Team. We now have a first mission, to help the Murder, Madness and Mayhem WikiProject improve twelve articles towards featured article status. These articles are really interesting, and the person in charge of WP:MMM is enthusiastic about our support, so this mission should be a real pleasure. Please watchlist the mission page and the WikiProject page as well as some (or all) of the twelve articles. The students contributing to these articles are all new to Wikipedia, so please be ultra-friendly towards them.

The coordinator for this mission is Wrad (talk), that's you :-), who may suggest further ways in which you can help. I will provide back-up. In particular, it might be useful for you to indicate which of the twelve articles interest you most (or which ones you are watchlisting) on the mission page. (I leave it to you, Wrad, to be in charge of the mission page, but will be glad to help out in any way you ask.)

Thanks again for joining in. I think this will be a lot of fun for all of us, and hopefully we can make it fun for the students too and create a few more featured articles between now and April. Geometry guy 22:06, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

(Well, that's the pitch to FA team members. If you want to correct or add something, feel free!)


 * Thanks Wrad: I was about to make exactly the same point about WP:BITE. Geometry guy 18:30, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I moved the nice pagelist you created to a subpage of WP:MMM, namely WP:WikiProject Murder Madness and Mayhem/Page list. Geometry guy 21:11, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

Dispatches
Hi Wrad, we don't have a volunteer for the next wikipedia dispatch yet. Do you think you could write something about the GA automation? You'd mentioned that in a previous discussion on the FAC talk page, and I think it might be interesting. I haven't been keeping up with GA changes, and I'm curious as to what's changing. If you don't have time, what with everything else you're doing, that's fine too. Karanacs (talk) 17:19, 7 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Can you provide a link to this FAC discussion? So far PR and GAR have been automated, and the dream is to automate GAN and GA as well, but nothing concrete yet. Geometry guy 20:09, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
 * See, I'm already learning something :) The giant discussion was here, and I was specifcially referring to Wrad's comments: The big thing with GA now is automation. New processes are being introduced that will make it easier to do reviews. Last I checked, DYK was working on making tighter restrictions on what could be nominated due to backlogs. Wrad (talk) 19:26, 23 January 2008 (UTC)  (sorry, I'm too lazy to go find the diff.) Karanacs (talk) 20:30, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of Template:Hamletchar
A tag has been placed on Template:Hamletchar requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section T3 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a deprecated or orphaned template. After seven days, if it is still unused and the speedy deletion tag has not been removed, the template will be deleted.

If the template is intended to be substituted, please feel free to remove the speedy deletion tag and please consider putting a note on the template's page indicating that it is substituted so as to avoid any future mistakes.

Thanks. --MZMcBride (talk) 06:30, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

sorry, missed your "go ahead and add it" comment in "what a pieceof work"
You very properly gave a be-my-guest response in the take page, and I didn't see it, and at any rate wanted to see if anyone was on the same page as me, so to speak. I will get off my butt and do the work soon, though. Best, Shlishke (talk) 05:33, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Next step
Wrad, a couple weeks ago you reviewed and passed David Suzuki: The Autobiography for Good Articles (thank you). It is now at FAC: Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/David Suzuki: The Autobiography. Would you mind reviewing it again? maclean 07:06, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Featured article dispatch workshop
You indicated early at WT:FAC you might want to participate. I set up a basic shell (and archives) for coordinating the weekly dispatch at Featured article dispatch workshop. The 25th is approaching! Sandy Georgia (Talk) 01:44, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of Template:Big 12 Men's Basketball Tournament
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Thanks. --MZMcBride (talk) 01:53, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of Template:Big Ten Men's Basketball Tournament
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Thanks. --MZMcBride (talk) 01:55, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

King Arthur
Cúchullain suggested I made contact re: FA status; I'm wondering if it might be achievable for theKing Arthur article... Thanks for any help you can give re: process :)  Btw: just read the SGGK article... Wow!  Wonderful stuff, must have taken a lot of work :) Hrothgar cyning (talk) 23:06, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh, it's absolutely achievable. We're moving in the right direction. Wrad (talk) 23:48, 27 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Don't worry about it ... I was speaking about my tastes. I'll not have you messing about with the article over that! It's good work as it is. All the best. Deacon of Pndapetzim ( Talk ) 04:37, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
 * No worries, I'll be sure to keep you on my article harass list. ;) Do you know btw that your name is a common way to spell the name of the Pictish king Uurad? Deacon of Pndapetzim ( Talk ) 04:56, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I'll have to add that to my userpage. Wrad (talk) 00:55, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

Simultaneous comments on Talk:The President (novel)
Our posts must have crossed in cyberspace, but we both seem to be thinking on the same lines. I agree there's a bit to do before GA (mainly, as you mention, trimming the plot summary, and also expanding the lead, performing a ce, and a few niggles like missing ISBNs and templates for citations etc). The article is shaping up nicely though. EyeSerene TALK 00:53, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Yep, yep, and yep. Wrad (talk) 00:54, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

GA review of After This
Both issues addressed. It took me a while to find the source of the image, but I remember, now - it was Amazon. Hopefully everything is in order now. Cheers, Qst (talk) 22:12, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

RE: List of Rurouni Kenshin chapters
I did not know that. Thanks! Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 00:19, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for your great edit summary on withdrawing a list nominated at WP:GAN and notifying the nominator. I mistakenly quick failed a list submitted to GAN last week, but have now removed the quick fail notice and notified (and apologized to) the nominator of my error. I did not know I had made an error until I saw your edit summary, so kudos and thanks again, Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 01:07, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

award
The Oddball Barnstar
 * Yes, well done. Sorry I couldn't be around to comment on FAC, but kudos for your important work. Cheers! – Scartol  •  Tok  18:34, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

Re: Timelines
Wrad, my thought has been that the articles should be submitted for FA Review by April 10. Does that make sense? --jbmurray (talk|contribs) 20:25, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

Banquo
I will talk to my adopter, i will get him to review the article as well, so there is a second opinion. DangerTM (talk) 05:17, 5 March 2008 (UTC)


 * I see that you like shakespeare's works, a good book on his life that you should read is the one by Bill Bryson, I cannot remember the title off the top of my head, but is you search bill bryson into google it should come up. I recieved high distinctions and stuff for my shakespeare related work in high school, so i guess that i could probably help the shakespeare project if i wanted to join, DangerTM (talk) 05:17, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

WP's work not done
I agree!

That's what I was trying to get across! Although, it was good to have some genuine debate on the show - proves we don't decide before-hand and make a cabal of it :-) Witty Lama 14:45, 5 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Haha. Wrad (talk) 16:03, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Batman: Mask of the Phantasm
Okay, now I THINK the article is ready. If you seek improvements, just list them on the talk page. Wildroot (talk) 13:54, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Flag of Lebanon discussion
Hi! As I understand you are interested in all arab cultures. On that talk page you can find under the headline Tree trunk colour my contribution to a discussion about the flag of the Lebanese Republic.

Also you can find that I have contributed to the Flag of Lebanon article recently. The contribution was my drawing of the Flag of the Lebanese Republic which can be found at commons:Image:Flag of the Lebanese Republic.png.

It is based on the official source which is thouroghlly described in the discussion which link is in the headline of this message.

Cheers!

Imbris (talk) 04:57, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

Banquo
I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but the GA nomination for Banquo has failed. I've left feedback on the talk page, which will hopefully prove useful. Please let me know if you have any questions. – Scartol  •  Tok  22:10, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
 * How about you just let me know when you make the changes, and I'll promise to review it again? – Scartol  •  Tok  22:17, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

The President
I left a message on the mission page (I was intending to do that anyway). I'm not the right person to review this, so I hope the GA review process will come up with someone better. Geometry guy 23:57, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

The Running Man Barnstar
Hi there! I noticed your excellent work to college basketball articles. You deserve this:
 * Thanks! Wrad (talk) 15:40, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

Please start discussion
On the BYU page, could you start the discussion? I need to see specifically why you added that tag so we can fix whatever it is. The burden of proof is kind of on you, and we can't move forward unless you say something. Thanks. Wrad (talk) 15:13, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I think I fixed it, so I'm going to remove the tag. If you're going to add it back, say why on the talk page. Wrad (talk) 15:40, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks, Wrad. I originally thought that the content on Wikipedia did not accurately represent the citations, but it at least reads a lot better now. Hopefully we can find some other sources to improve the Dance section. Thanks! --Eustress (talk) 15:50, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Green tip
A little tidbit by Peter Sanderson here about the Hulk, Robin Hood and the Green Man, with their colours as "the man of nature". Alientraveller (talk) 21:39, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Cool. Wrad (talk) 21:40, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

SGGK-FA
Just noticed you got the FA status for the article -- (belated) congratz :) It's a great piece of work :) cheers, Hrothgar cyning (talk) 00:13, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Wrad (talk) 00:24, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes, congratulations, Wrad! I have it on my watchlist, of course, and will be keeping special watch for vandalism.  Cheers! --- RepublicanJacobite  The'FortyFive'  19:39, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Films coordinator elections
The WikiProject Films coordinator selection process is starting. We are aiming to elect five coordinators to serve for the next six months; if you are interested in running, please sign up here by March 28! Girolamo Savonarola (talk) 10:31, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

SGGK & rollback
I've made you a rollbacker. This'll make fighting vandalism on SGGK easier. As you know, it reverts all the edits by the last editor to the last edit by the previous one in one go. And, as you also know, it must never be used in content or editing disputes. Anyhow, if you want the funky rollbacker icon top right on your user page just add rollback to it.

I'll keep an eye on SGGK as well on the Big Day. When is it? -- R OGER D AVIES  talk 19:41, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks. It's actually next in line. Wrad (talk) 19:48, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

Middle English on Wiktionary
Hey, I was just looking at today's featured article, and thought it was well written. I just thought I'd drop you a note to say that the English Wiktionary has a rather serious (in my opinion) lacking in Middle English. We have Latin, Ancient Greek, and Old English covered reasonably well, but Middle English is all but nonexistent, which makes for some gaps in our etymologies. If you have any interest (or know of anyone else who might), we'd love to have you. If you have no interest in such a project, then let me simply say well done on that article (yes, yes, I realize that no wiki article is ever written by a single author :-)). Atelaes (talk) 04:14, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

Crusades task force
Hi Wrad, based on your comment on the Middle Ages project, I've come up with a rough start for a Crusades task force (currently in my user space). Hopefully you and others can help fix it up before we try to implement it. Adam Bishop (talk) 08:56, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

Leads
Hello Wrad, Thank you for the reply. I've left a message on my talk page and, after your message, now feel indeferent to having or adding a ref to the lead section. However you may still notice and note that I have a preference for having a ref. ;) Best regards. --CyclePat (talk) 18:45, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

Apple
Hi Wrad. When you have time, could you re-review Apple which is at GAR? is sure that it now passes the GA criteria, whether clearly or marginally. Thanks, PeterSymonds | talk  22:05, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

Spring forward; don't fall back!
--Cinemaniac (talk •  contribs  •  critique) 02:39, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

Synthesis
See my comments added to the article's talk page]. [[User:Truthanado|Truthanado (talk) 04:47, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I saw them. We'll talk there. Thanks, Wrad (talk) 04:49, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

On The Wikilinking of Tampa and the St. Pete Times Forum...
Already noted in the Talk:2008 NCAA Men's Division I Basketball Tournament page, and I have already said that the links should be removed as they are already linked in the subregional sites. NoseNuggets (talk) 1:48 AM US EDT Mar 22 2008

Game summary
Your comment about not including 9-beating-8 as an upset could affect the effort to make the 2008 NCAA Men's Division I Basketball Tournament a GA or FA article. It is evidence that author opinion was used to filter what gets included in the article and that is a clear violation of several Wiki policies and guidelines. You might want to rethink that. Your attempt to reduce the amount of text is valid and I can support that. Perhaps a compromise might be to include all games in which a lower seed beats a higher seed as an upset; just don't describe the 8-9 upset games in any detail. Truthanado (talk) 14:51, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

List of titles of works based on Shakespearean phrases
FYI I removed the "split" template. It's been almost a year with no serious move to split. davidwr/ (talk)/(contribs)/(e-mail)  01:58, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

2008 NCAA Men's Division I Basketball Tournament
Thanks for the game summaries. I fixed up a lot of reference links so they look better in the references section. Consider using this or any other "pretty" format for future references. davidwr/ (talk)/(contribs)/(e-mail)  03:13, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
 * As per my comment on the "Record by Mascot Species" comment: You really must have been ROTFLYMFAO on that! NoseNuggets (talk) 1:05 AM US EDT Mar 24 2008.
 * Somewhere along the line I missed that comment. davidwr/  (talk)/(contribs)/(e-mail)  02:59, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

SGGK
Hey Wrad, sorry I missed ya, but I've been travelling for the last ten days. I am really bummed I missed SGGK being on the front page (and not so sorry I missed out on controlling the chaos). Congratulations on getting the article featured!--Cúchullain t/ c 12:27, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

RE: Character List?
I think I will create a new article as a list for the characters in The Tempest, per your comment here.

 Meldshal42 <sub style="color:blue;">Comments and Suggestions <sup style="color:red;">My Contributions 15:50, 23 March 2008 (UTC)


 * ✅ Here is the link:

List of Characters in The Tempest

 Meldshal42 <sub style="color:blue;">Comments and Suggestions <sup style="color:red;">My Contributions 15:56, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

All-star team
Sorry Wrad. I was viewing your reversion of yourself and proceeded to edit an old version of the page. As I'm sure you figured out. Oddly, I received a barnstar for this error. :) –<font color="#112299">Outriggr § 02:51, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Wow. Now I'm really confused. Wrad (talk) 02:53, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
 * That has to be the oddest barnstar I've ever seen given. Wrad (talk) 02:56, 27 March 2008 (UTC)


 * [ec] That is, I accidentally edited an old version of the page. (Or is your confusion about the barnstar?) I don't quite understand the dialogue going on about mistaken FAC nominations and such. The setup of this project (on both sides) is the best model for collaboration that I've seen on wikipedia; well done. The concern about MOS seems disproportionate though. –<font color="#112299">Outriggr § 03:02, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

1346?
Hello, in January you promised a flesh-out article on 1346. I am just wondering how is that going since I totally adore 1345... Renata (talk) 14:07, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Clarify
Hi, Wrad; I hope you're feeling better about the MMM situation today. I left a message on G guy's talk page, to keep them all in one place, that I hope you saw.

I just wanted to say that I still don't have any idea what this refers to; what old wounds and what old edits, what mistake? If it's something that relates to me, I either didn't know or have forgotten, and if it doesn't relate to me, feel free to tell me it's done and no longer matters, but I just want to make sure you realize that even after Outriggr's clarification, I don't know what old wounds are being referred to there, and I don't want you to think I'm digging up some old business.

I also took some time to review all of the starts and stops I've had with this Project, and it seems to all come back to Wassup. I thought he was a class member, and have just found the whole thing to be very frustrating; he noms an unprepared article that others are clearly working on, undoes ref cleanup, edit conflicts with inuse template, and now undoes talk page cleanup. It's strange, but now that I know he's not a member of the class, at least I don't feel like class members are getting no guidance. For example, I went through all of the article talk pages this week and cleaned them up, and he went after me and undid all my work; switching banners is a big no-no, and I can't find any reason for him to have done that. But ... with so many cooks in the kitchen, I know I'd best drop it and not worry about it ... would I take this up with the FA-team, with Gguy, with Wassup, with you, with Jbmurray, on the MMM talk page ... confusion ... how to deal with this while not interfering with the students' work ... so best to let it drop and let him do his thing. It's really best that I stay uninvolved, as I'm beginning to wonder about his apparent desire to undo work I've done, and it's been very frustrating from my end, not because of you.

All the best, Sandy Georgia (Talk) 20:36, 27 March 2008 (UTC)


 * "so best to let it drop and let him do his thing." This has been my strategy.  When it seems relatively unimportant (e.g. switching banners), I say what harm is there?  --jbmurray (talk|contribs) 21:51, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Correct; it's cumulatively frustrating to me, but really not worth worrying about. I do wish I could have helped more :-)  Sandy Georgia  (Talk) 21:54, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the note, Wrad; so it sounds like I wasn't the only one affected by Wassup? I'll just let it go; just wanted to be sure you and I didn't have some old history I wasn't aware of :-)  All the best, Sandy Georgia  (Talk) 22:25, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

William Shakespeare spoken version
Hi Wrad; I have replied on the Spoken Wikipedia talk page. I'll do this one, and will hopefully start tomorrow; I'll keep you informed on my progress. I'm reasonably familiar with Shakespeare and his works, but if I come across any difficult pronunciations I'm unsure of, may I ask you for help, or could you direct me to any other sources of help? Cheers, Hassocks5489 (talk) 18:36, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

BYU Picture Request Fulfillment
Hi Wrad. I took some pictures of the MOA and some honor code posters and posted them on the BYU article, as you requested. Hope these work! --Eustress (talk) 02:14, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

The Golden Compass (film) GA review
Hi, Wrad, you reviewed The Golden Compass article for GAC last month; were you going to check up on it? I cannot tell if you're suggestions were adequately dealt with, so you may want to take another look and see if it should be passed or failed. María ( habla con migo ) 14:13, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

Romeo and Juliet on screen
Wrad, hi! Haven't been in touch much for a while, but I'll shortly be ready to rejoin the FA drive at Romeo and Juliet.

Anyway my question, because I know you do GA quite often, is whether you think Romeo and Juliet on screen is ready to be put up for GA, and if not, what work it might need. Do you have any thoughts? AndyJones (talk) 21:10, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

BYU flagship
If BYU isn't the flagship of the Mormon Church, then what is? BYU-Idaho? BYU-Hawaii? LDS Business College? Think about it. Which school is the biggest? Which has the best programs? Which has the better budget. JackWilliams (talk) 20:16, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
 * None of them are. The Church doesn't favor one over the other. I've researched this and have been unable to find any official source saying BYU is the flagship university. That's just not the way the Church does things. The BY Universities are centered in the CES, not at BYU. Wrad (talk) 20:20, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
 * BYU-Provo is obviously the better school by a long shot. It doesn't matter what the Church says in official statements.  Wikipedia is about neutral truth, not propaganda.  I'll change it back, this time with references.JackWilliams (talk) 20:26, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I found some more official sources referring to BYU as the "flagship" or the primary school. They are on byu.edu and the quotes are from Karl G. Maeser, Spencer W. Kimball, Merrill J. Bateman, and Marion G. Romney. JackWilliams (talk) 21:35, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

It's time for you to archive your user talk page again.
Have you tried MiszaBot? It works wonders on my talk page and I don't have to fuss with irregularly sized pages or forgetting to archive pages anymore. You should try it!

As mentioned on the WT:UNI discussion, I've sent a single-issue 3RR warning to JackWilliam's talk page. I've also mentioned on T:BYU that there is a clear definition of flagship university and quoting other people who are expressing the term incorrectly does not make it encyclopedic. Hope this helps. You can always go back to WT:UNI for help with this again. I know you and JackWilliams have been at it for some time now. Last time it never escalated to dispute resolution, let's just hope we don't need to go that far for one tiny sentence in the lead of a university article.  - Jameson L. Tai  <sup style="color:#660000;"> talk ♦  contribs  22:13, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

something strange
I tried to leave a message on the tempest talk page and got some weird spam filter about a blacklisted hyperlink. I tried to copy it here but the same one came up - Okay here it is without the offending hyperlink: The spam filter blocked your page save because it detected a blacklisted hyperlink. You may have added it yourself, the link may have been added by another editor before it was blacklisted, or you may be infected by spyware that adds links to wiki pages. You will need to remove all instances of the blacklisted URL before you can save. If you are attempting a section edit, note that this block may even be due to spam links in other sections. Blacklists are maintained both locally and globally. Before proceeding, please review both lists to determine which one (or both) are affecting you. You can request help removing the link, request that the link be removed from the blacklist, or report a possible error on the local or global spam blacklist talk page. If you'd like to request that a specific link be allowed without removing similar links from the blacklist, you can request whitelisting on the local spam whitelist talk page. The following link has triggered our spam protection filter: (link deleted) Either that exact link, or a portion of it (typically the root domain name) is currently blacklisted. Any idea how to fix this?Smatprt (talk) 03:54, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Anyhow - I tried to leave a response. Here it is (I hope) - can you copy it into the tempest discussion for me?

One of the main reasons that the character list was deleted from another article was that these works were literature first and plays second. I strongly disagree. Shakespeare is known as the world's preeminent DRAMATIST and writer of PLAYS. Every play has one thing in common - a CAST list. Every play program has a CAST list. An integral part of ANY play is the CAST. Every edition of the play has a CAST LIST. It simply astound me that anyone would think that a thorough article on any play should not have a cast list as part of that article. Another reason that was stated was that it made the article look amateurish. I have one question - WHY? To be frank - I think the opposite - it make the article look amateurish NOT to have a cast list. Yes - wikipedia discourages lists - but it does not BAN them. In the case of PLAY articles, a cast list not only makes sense, but makes for easier understanding of the synopsis and the various issues that the article covers. Thanks for listening.Smatprt (talk) 04:09, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

real academic world?
Ha! I love this edit. We normally think that the "real" and the "academic" worlds are rather far apart from each other. It's nice to see them brought together! --jbmurray (talk|contribs) 00:19, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Question
Hi, I see that you are an active GAN reviewer. Is there any change that I can get you to give Unforgiven (2007) a pre-GA review? iMat thew   20  08  22:08, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Main page request
Thanks for the heads-up. Hope El Señor Presidente gets slotted soon. Cheers! Wassupwestcoast (talk) 02:23, 10 April 2008 (UTC)