User talk:Wrestlinglover/Archive 13

List of WWF Hardcore Champions
http://slashwrestling.com/smackdown/000413.html There's my source, pal. Trust me, those 3 title changes took place on that Smackdown show. April 11th, 2000 was a Tuesday, and WWF only did Smackdown shows on Tuesdays in the year 2000 - not house shows.--KaceCC (talk) 19:20, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

SummerSlam 2009
What do you think of the article? I thin there are way too many pictures in the article (it looks like there is a picture for every match). I think the user that put most of them in has started using his IP address to continue editing after I told him to stop adding them in.  TJ   Spyke   00:01, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

A bit too far?
Okay I know you've got your own views and feel strongly about them but honestly sometimes you go a bit too far, the "citation needed" bombing of WWE Backlash is just childish and as a strong believer in "No Drama" I cannot really help out someone who makes such a dramaqueen move like that, it's petty and childish. So please don't ask for help with citations, comments or anything else because I'm not going to support someone who tries to make a point by going so over the top.  MPJ-DK  (No Drama) Talk 06:56, 23 August 2009 (UTC) Because of stuff like what you did on the Backlash page, drama seems to just follow you around, intentionally or not. I don't care for the drama and I'm not interested in helping people that add to the drama.  MPJ-DK  (No Drama) Talk 07:50, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
 * A month ago, yesterday or a year ago is not really the point. I'm dedicating myself to "no drama" on Wikipedia and drama seems to follow you around, so I am chilled.  MPJ-DK  (No Drama) Talk 07:03, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Hey you conduct yourself however you want, you don't owe me any explanations - in return I'll conduct myself how I want, free world and all.  MPJ-DK  (No Drama) Talk 07:11, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
 * No I mean I don't care why you did it and it doesn't make a difference why at all. I mentioned it so that you did not think I was just ignoring requests for help in the future for no reason. Not trying to make you change how you do stuff, I'm not your mother.  MPJ-DK  (No Drama) Talk 07:43, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
 * You "citation needed" bombing an article is definitely inviting drama, and I will end this drama right now.  MPJ-DK  (No Drama) Talk 08:01, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

RE: Knockouts Tag Team Championship
IDK if I'll add it because I still have a ways to go on my other projects. Plus, I'm not sure how it would work. Would I only include team articles? Only individual articles? Both where applicable? I might add it down the line, though, so thanks for the heads up! Nikki ♥  311   19:25, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

Re:
Depends. I got pretty good points, and an A1 in English, so that's good. But I only got pretty good points, i.e. not enough to get into medicine, so... yea, it depends. I dunno. *Shrugs* I mean, I got offered places on college courses, but they're not ones I want to do. At the moment, I'm actually thinking about repeating the Leaving this year, 'cause I know I'd be able to increase my points. Life's never smooth sailing. :( ♥ Nici ♥ Vampire ♥ Heart ♥ 16:55, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Yep. That's the plan at the moment anyway. I've been good, thanks. ♥ Nici ♥ Vampire ♥ Heart ♥ 06:04, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
 * No, sorry, simply don't have time. Life's all over the place at the mo'. Between everything that's going on now and everyhing that will be going on in a few weeks, I barely have time to edit at all. I'm simply not able for a project at this time. Apologies. ♥ Nici ♥ Vampire ♥ Heart ♥ 11:31, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Will do. ♥ Nici ♥ Vampire ♥ Heart ♥ 09:58, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks. ♥ Nici ♥ Vampire ♥ Heart ♥ 10:07, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

Will, if I wanted to comment there, I would have done so on the first occasion you linked to it. ♥ Nici ♥ Vampire ♥ Heart ♥ 10:59, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Or how about next time, you check to see if you've already left a message about it? Or better yet, don't leave me a message about it at all. I have no interest in reviewing editors. ♥ Nici ♥ Vampire ♥ Heart ♥ 11:08, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

This is an unbelievably inappropriate edit summary. Here in Ireland, ponce means "fag" or "poser" or a variation of the two. Please be more carfeul, because quick frankly that's a personal attack, and the next time I see you use it, I will report you as that's really offensive. Please stay off my talk page until you can leave appropriate edit summaries. ♥ Nici ♥ Vampire ♥ Heart ♥ 11:21, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Apology accepted, but perhaps be a bit more careful in future with your word choices. Thanks, ♥ Nici ♥ Vampire ♥ Heart ♥ 13:00, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

Re: Christian
Sure, I guess. I'll work on the lead. Do you want to work on the article in a sandbox? Cause, after looking at the history, there's a lot going on. Be best to avoid that. -- ThinkBlue   (Hit   BLUE)  17:01, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Alright, cool. I'll work on the WWE sections. Don't know if you want the ECW section. Yeah, I try to avoid working on article's that are gonna cause wars and stuff. Um, be best to work on yours, cause right now I'm booked with all my sandboxes. -- ThinkBlue   (Hit   BLUE)  17:09, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Cool, tell me where it is and we can work from there. You mean "Jason Reso" ---> "William Reso"? Everything else sounds good. -- ThinkBlue   (Hit   BLUE)  17:40, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Nice. I don't know about the move, cause people do know him as Christian, but he's also known as Jason Reso. I mean, I know him as Jason from Edge's book. Maybe you should bring this up at PW or Christian's talk page, so you can avoid problems in the future. The image thing is cool. Though, that image of him with the fan should be removed, cause you could barely see him. IDK, that's just me. -- ThinkBlue   (Hit   BLUE)  18:00, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah, bringing it up at PW might be for the best. -- ThinkBlue   (Hit   BLUE)  18:17, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I highly doubt the article would be changed to Christian. Its like Edge, consensus was formed to have it at as Adam Copeland. The same outcome will happen. Well, for the Dudley's that a different story, really. -- ThinkBlue   (Hit   BLUE)  18:41, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

Okay, so I'm done with the lead, tell me how you feel about it. -- ThinkBlue   (Hit   BLUE)  20:40, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Believe me, the lead for Christian is not my best work. I struggled a lot with it, so, bear with me. The only thing I found on the TNA sections, which have a lot of info., was that he was champion twice or something. I guess I missed the info. where he was in a group. Okay, I added the two ring names. I added when he became part of the Brood and when he and Edge split. Alright, I added Christian's Coalition. How 'bout now? -- ThinkBlue   (Hit   BLUE)  15:29, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Nice, good job on the cleanup. You know, I had that same thought on replacing some reliable refs. with third party ones. Like for HBK, I wanted to replace a Slam! Source, for WM25, with a newspaper, the Houston Chronicle, but decided against it, didn't want controversy arising, so. But, I'm glad you brought this up. I'm in total favor of this. I have access to NewsBank and that would be totally helpful to the article. P.S. Are you gonna work on the Early life stuff? -- ThinkBlue   (Hit   BLUE)  21:16, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Update: I found an interview after he left WWE and started working for TNA and his thoughts on it. Could this be useful? -- ThinkBlue   (Hit   BLUE)  21:25, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I added some newspaper sources to my sections yesterday. If you want to take a look at it and tell me how you feel about it. I'll see if I can find any interviews from him for the feuds. Also, I'm done with my sections, just wanted to let you know. Is there anything else you want me to do? Yeah, the indies situation works. -- ThinkBlue   (Hit   BLUE)  15:17, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh, okay. I'll see if there are any dead links in the article, so I can fix them or replace them. FA? I thought our goal was going to get it GA first and then FA. ;) -- ThinkBlue   (Hit   BLUE)  14:28, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I know. Its been a while since a wrestling bio was FA. God knows I wanted to get HBK's to FA. No, its fine with me, really. I was just messing with you about the FA first. Can't believe you didn't get that. :) Its fine with me, I do have a lot of nominations and I'd be probably for the best to hold it off. Pull out a PPV? I'm game with this. -- ThinkBlue   (Hit   BLUE)  18:32, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Re:Hardcore Title list
Man that sucks. The first step we should do is see if we can resolve the issue at WT:PW about the reigns, I think I have a way in doing that, except I don't have time right now to explain it at WT:PW; I might (if time allows) do it tomorrow or on the weekend (my explanation, maybe it will resolve the issue).-- T ru  c o   503 01:54, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Eh, I have had no time to get on here, sorry. I don't even remember what I was going to say at WT:PW, and I rather not even get involved with it anymore since its turned into some frenzy over there over the topic.-- T ru  c o   503 01:54, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

Re
[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3AFeatured_list_candidates%2FList_of_WWE_Hardcore_Champions%2Farchive1&diff=309977710&oldid=309926308 you even sadder... sadder man :)]-- Unquestionable Truth -- 02:12, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, at least I WAS A SOLDIER!!! OHHHHH SNAP! Break It Down Will! *BOOM BOOM* :) -- Unquestionable Truth -- 02:35, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Wow Will... so bitter... well I just got two words for you... "What the fuck have you done lately?" actually that was more like 7... anyway... Break It Down Will! *BOOM BOOM* :) --The Gonna Be -- 02:50, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
 * You said BUM hehehe...-- Unquestionable Truth -- 03:02, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Bums? You want to talk about asses? o.0 -- Unquestionable Truth -- 03:07, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Hmmm my MSN's freezing up on me. I'll so what I can do. -- Unquestionable Truth -- 03:21, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

Semi-Lurking
Yeah, I haven't been active that much. First things off, my desk got moved at work so I was closer to the group I work with, but my PC is way too exposed now. I've been trying to develop an article in my Sandbox. Plus, no offense, WP:PW became such a drama dumpster. No one showed up to edit articles, it was about five active people, then the active project members (all five of them) make a new policy and 40 people come out of the wood work saying there was no consensus. There's the in-fighting, the socks. After the whole user:Kalajan ordeal I just needed to step back. (I think he might be back too, but I have no proof.) I've been looking more at policy and understanding how the site works beyond WP:PW. Reading ANI, WQA, RFAR. There's so much I didn't kow as it is.  HAZardousMATT toxic 13:25, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
 * The sock's initials are CC if my hunch is correct. Anyway, aside from my Sandbox article I don't really have time to work on too much. And working on the PW project for some reason makes me hate wrestling. (Just watched Rise & Fall of WCW last night -- pretty good. Except for an unnecessary jab at Jeff Jarrett.) I doubt I'm going to join any projects any time soon. I only have two or three pages on my watchlist. Plus I'm starting an itnernal wiki fro my group at work that takes a lot of attention.  HAZardousMATT toxic 15:29, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
 * The difference between Rise & Fall of WCW and ECW is that Vince invested in ECW. He appreciated it. Whereas WCW pushed him out of a cherished timeslot and humiliated him for 85 weeks consecutively. The Jarrett jab was just some out-of-left-field comment like "He thought, in his tiny, country brain, that he was a main-eventer." There's no lead-in or follow-up to it. It's just there. Seeing as he owns and runs TNA, I'm not surprised. I have a soft spot in my heart for WCW, it really got me to love wrestling (first exposure was the Clash with the tourney for the NWA tag belts). But they made a lot of stupid business decisions. They're too harsh on Russo, they don't focus that he tried to push younger guys, even though everyone says the older guys were ruining the place with their massive egos. They raise a lot of good points about how stupid things were at the end. Of course, they don't touch on the InVasion at all.  HAZardousMATT toxic 21:32, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

What's with the editor review? No, you've never been an ass to me. Honestly between dealing with constant changes forced on WP:PW by GA and FA reviewers and the outcry from people who come out of the woodwork when the slightest change occurs, you've been a pretty reasonable editor. Granted, I never strayed into any of the TNA articles where people insisted you violated wp:own so I can't comment on that. Then again, considering the project had at most 6 or 7 active members it could have been you were the only one editing them. (Part of why I left the project -- too much drama.) Anyway, I'm not exactly familiar with an editor review so I'm going to see what people comment before I add my own.  HAZardousMATT toxic 13:26, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

Hey
Hey Will. Are you back full-time now on Wiki or are you still semi-retired?  Save   Us.  Y2J  18:28, August 28 2009 (UTC)


 * Shouldn't you put the Triple H photo on your userpage with all the writing below the photo? (since you do hate him)  Save   Us.  Y2J  13:35, August 29 2009 (UTC)


 * K man, do you still hate Triple H?  Save   Us.  Y2J  16:08, August 31 2009 (UTC)


 * K, what can we talk about?  Save   Us.  Y2J  17:54, August 31 2009 (UTC)


 * Do you hate or dislike Triple H?, because their is a huge difference between hating and disliking someone.  Save   Us.  Y2J  17:31, September 3 2009 (UTC)


 * K, that's alot of hate towards Triple H. He's my favourite, but that's just me. Is there a reason why you hate Triple H? Polotics?  Save   Us.  Y2J  17:50, September 3 2009 (UTC)


 * Yeah, well not everyone can like Triple H, and I agree, he has not made anyone look good. My favourite in TNA would have to be Sting or Angle. And TNA is pretty good these days.  Save   Us.  Y2J  7:07, September 4 2009 (UTC)

Who's your favourie in WWE?  Save   Us.  Y2J  14:59, September 4 2009 (UTC)


 * Yeah, Taker and Y2J are good. I don't like Punk (never have, never will). Did you see SmackDown this week (or does it still have tio air in America?)  Save   Us.  Y2J  17:42, September 4 2009 (UTC)


 * Punk is good, but I just don't like him. Not because of his character or anything, it's just i've never seen him as a good competitor.  Save   Us.  Y2J  17:51, September 4 2009 (UTC)


 * Yeah, how was TNA Impact! this week?  Save   Us.  Y2J  17:56, September 4 2009 (UTC)


 * It must of been a really good show. It airs in Australia at 10pm on Saturday nights. It's friday afternoon in Australia, so I'll watch it tomorrow night.  Save   Us.  Y2J  18:01, September 4 2009 (UTC)

One other thing I forgot to point out. Thanks for that edit in my sandbox; I didn't know whether or not to move the picture. Thanks man, appreciate it.  Save   Us.  Y2J  18:08, September 4 2009 (UTC)


 * Wow. Styles vs Sabin was amazing. I'm definately watching TNA Impact! tomorrow night.  Save   Us.  Y2J  18:35, September 4 2009 (UTC)


 * Like on SmackDown, it was Mysterio vs. Morrison for the IC title. The match stole the show, IMO.  Save   Us.  Y2J  18:40, September 4 2009 (UTC)


 * All of SmackDown was decent except for Mysterio vs Morrison, it was great, IMO.  Save   Us.  Y2J  18:45, September 4 2009 (UTC)


 * Did you like Raw this week?  Save   Us.  Y2J  18:49, September 4 2009 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I liked the RKO by Orton to Dusty. I was amazed that Cena fought off Orton and Cody until Dibiase came down and helped. I liked the ending to the show when Orton was just standing there and looking at Cody.  Save   Us.  Y2J  18:54, September 4 2009 (UTC)


 * Yeah, agreed. It was interesing. I wonder what will happen next week?. Got any suggestions of what will happen next week?  Save   Us.  Y2J  18:58, September 4 2009 (UTC)

Did you end up watching SmackDown?  Save   Us.  Y2J  10:39, September 5 2009 (UTC)


 * K, I thought you would of watched it.  Save   Us.  Y2J  11:15, September 5 2009 (UTC)


 * Haha, well everyone needs a good sleep once in a while, lol.  Save   Us.  Y2J  11:21, September 5 2009 (UTC)


 * What did you think of Mysterio vs Morrison?  Save   Us.  Y2J  11:27, September 5 2009 (UTC)

FLC
I've striken what I feel has been fixed, the rest is up to you to do something about or not, I've said my piece on each of them and I'm keeping an eye on them and will strike if I find that I agree with what's been said or changed.  MPJ-DK  (No Drama) Talk 06:53, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Sure.  MPJ-DK  (No Drama) Talk 07:26, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

I could not resist commenting on the fact that you seem to be either "pro" or "con" primary sources depending on whether it's your article or someone else's, was it diplomatic? Not really, one slips by now and again.  MPJ-DK  (No Drama) Talk 07:51, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I can't be "Neutral" when I have four points that are being worked out at WP:PW.  MPJ-DK  (No Drama) Talk 05:10, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Alright that's it, stop talking to me when you suggest something like that.  MPJ-DK  (No Drama) Talk 05:16, 31 August 2009 (UTC)


 * I actually try my best not to use Solie or wrestling-titles.com for much as they're not really reliable sources, but I appriciate the thought.  MPJ-DK  (No Drama) Talk 05:15, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

slashwrestling.com
In case you don't know, slashwrestling.com was run by Christopher Robin Zimmerman who did recaps for CBS Wrestleline for many years during the Monday Night Wars. His recaps are accurate. So accurate in fact, that THEY ARE USED BY WIKIPEDIA AS SOURCES: http://www.google.com/search?client=opera&rls=en&q=site:wikipedia.org+slashwrestling.com&sourceid=opera&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

Leave the Hardcore title histories alone! I am trying to make them better, I am not a vandal! WWE's list is WRONG at times. KaceCC (talk) 16:49, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

gac
Hi WL, I wanted to come here to apologize... I've been finding my commitment to WP waning over the past few months and have basically decided to retire. I just couldn't bring myself to edit the article over the weekend and honestly don't see that happening anytime in the near future... I did want to thank you for taking the time to do so... but in all honesty, that article had been on the GAC for so long that I had forgotten all about it being there.--- Balloonman  NO! I'm Spartacus! 14:57, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

List of Music in TNA
Please leave my UNFINISHED work alone. I know your profile says to take problems somewhere else...but you obviously have no idea what the talk section is for.

My work is not complete, and I am trying my best to settle an issue with the Dale Oliver Page...I ask politly for you to back away. I have worked hard on this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Changeisn'tSpare (talk • contribs) 12:50, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

Lucha Libre AAA 2010: Heroes del Ring
Hi man, I see your link is "Wrestlinglover" and I'm supposed you like all type of wrestling, however, can you expand the article Lucha Libre AAA 2010: Heroes del Ring? yo can help it with the web, is very much information. I resort to you for whom I have seen that your articles are very good and reliable.

Thank you. --XOTERS (talk) 21:04, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

Fan
Your a fan of WWE but think its boring?--Wwe.fana (talk) 08:08, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Editor Review invite
Well thanks, but I got to go with no thanks per my "no drama" policy.  MPJ-DK  (No Drama) Talk 13:07, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Infobox Wrestling event
A bit belated but just to let you know that I've just added the caption function for Template:Infobox Wrestling event that you requested quite a while ago. I might add the live event function next week but I think the project will need to know how this will be implemented (it will be more than likely that "pay-per-view=Y" will be added to every PPV article). --  Θaks  ter   14:53, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Well since most of the sections are currently empty, I'll try my best to work things out from it. I'm not exactly sure what the "On–air employees" section is going to look like (probabily not like it is right now with the floating table) so I not sure what I say about it right now. I am also not particularly a big fan of the use of footnotes to link to the Six Man Tag Team Elimination match eliminations section, it looks very messy with the link before the elimination table. If you don't want to use a subheading (which is understandable), some coding through Help:HTML in wikitext#Using  as a link target might help. Other than that, I have no problems with your format. I hope this helps. --   Θaks  ter   17:30, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Question
How was a copyvio? It was uploaded by the actual requester and was agreed at WT:PW to make a screenshot of it and upload it on here.-- Will C  15:39, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
 * While I'm happy to answer questions, it looks like your question is answered in my FAQs. They're linked at the top of my talk page and in the editnotice. Why not check them out next time?
 * It displayed a copyrighted email on a copyrighted internet browser, on a website with a copyrighted layout and copyrighted user interface, including copyrighted icons of copyrighted software, and a copyrighted operating system.
 * Emails giving authorization to use an image or other content should be forwarded to permissions-en@undefinedwikimedia.org. Stifle (talk) 15:53, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Re:
Yeah, I guess people need to be sure about my kidding around. :) It seems that your mission is PPV's. Your format looks good, though, are you prepared for the edit warring it will cause? Yeah, maybe I'll get his article to FA... maybe. I still have those hopes, but for now I'll put my focus on something else. -- ThinkBlue   (Hit   BLUE)  07:15, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Yup, I was gonna ask you how your progress was on Christian's article, but you beat to it. :) Hell yeah, another article, and we're living the dream. She's not? Damn. I guess that means I'll have to work on Maryse's article, in order to get Deuce 'n Domino to GT. Sure. Didn't we discuss working on Styles on IM? I don't mind. Whatever you want to work on, I'm for it. Well, she's my cool topic buddy, but you can be my second one. ;) P.S. I saw Style on Made. -- ThinkBlue   (Hit   BLUE)  19:00, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

GAN notice
Hi Wrestlinglover, you currently have at least one article up a WP:GAN in the Sports and recreation section. In an attempt to clear out the backlog there, User:Wizardman asked all sports WikiProjects to review at least two articles from that section. I'm now going around and asking anybody with an article nominated under Sports and recreation to review at least one article in that section to help us clear the backlog out so your articles can finally be reviewed faster!  iMatthew  talk   at 15:04, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, I'm trying to take as many wrestling articles as possible. You know we're trying to clear the backlog, and nobody else really wants to do them. What if I reviewed it, then asked for a second opinion, which Wizardman would likely do for me?  iMatthew  talk   at 22:38, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

User talk page revert
Was there a particular reason for this revert? --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talk • contrib) 03:25, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
 * No worries, that's what I thought. I just wanted to make sure it wasn't anything else (maybe Darrenhusted hired you as a personal guard to keep annoying editors like me from leaving messages...). --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talk • contrib) 03:38, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm sure I'll be making the same mistakes with Modern Warfare 2 comes out in November. --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talk • contrib) 05:20, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
 * I couldn't imagine playing it for the computer, it works best on a platform (PS3 for me). From the trailers and initial reviews, it looks like its going to be a blast (and yet one more distraction to keep me off Wikipedia). --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talk • contrib) 00:54, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm still addicted, but maybe not as much as a year or two ago (although I'm still involved in too many areas). I also started working a few weeks ago, so my time here has been cut quite a bit. I figure if I'm going to spend so much time on a hobby, at least I'm contributing to something that is helping others (unlike my kill streaks in COD which are sure to upset other people...). --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talk • contrib) 04:11, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

1904 FA Cup Final
Nothing in particular. The article broadly follows the same structure I used for 1956 FA Cup Final. Since 1904 is so long ago (and nobody broke their neck in this one) it is less comprehensive than 1956, as less sources exist. But then that's why I went for GA instead of FA. Oldelpaso (talk) 11:35, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

Suicide
Suggesting this out of clutter, but if you would be up to citing the third-party sources you mentioned if they're reliable, that would help out a lot more than just a keep vote. If you can prove it to be notable through those sources I've got no reason to continue the AfD.--Kung Fu Man (talk) 22:07, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Hm, fair enough. Usually when dealing with video game character cases like these we get editors that rush in, go "Keep!" and then never improve it again or plan to. It's pleasant to hear that isn't the case here, consider the AfD withdrawn.--Kung Fu Man (talk) 22:33, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

UWA World Junior Light Heavyweight Championship
I dunno yet, if I do it'll be after I get done with the CMLL titles.  MPJ-DK  (No Drama) Talk 06:45, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

WikiCup Newsletter XXX
Delivered for the WikiCup by  ROBOTIC GARDEN  at 19:39, 12 September 2009 (UTC). To report errors see the talk page.

Re:
Looks good. ♥ Nici ♥ Vampire ♥ Heart ♥ 10:23, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
 * What do you want me to say? You asked me what I think, I told you. Not seeing a problem here. ♥ Nici ♥ Vampire ♥ Heart ♥ 10:25, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Will, I personally see the fact we don't spend as much time talking as we did as a good thing. Most of our conversations were about topics completely unrelated to wikipedia, and as I've said before I simply don't have the time for that anymore - not when I'm on wikipedia. This isn't a social networking site, if I want to chat about random topics I'd go on messenger or to a forum. Since my editing time during the week is going to be limited to about half an hour a day, if I'm lucky, starting on Wednesday I'd rather spend my time keeping an eye on articles, rather than chatting about music/religion/whatever other random topics we've covered in the past. I'm sorry, but that's how it is. ♥ Nici ♥ Vampire ♥ Heart ♥ 20:56, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
 * I have no time, as I've said before. I have one more article to do for a topic with 'Blue, and then I'm taking a break from GAs/GTs/any nominations until next summer. ♥ Nici ♥ Vampire ♥ Heart ♥ 22:42, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

That's fine. Thanks for informing me. ♥ Nici ♥ Vampire ♥ Heart ♥ 14:31, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the offer, but I can assure you that, even in the highly unlikely scenario that I magically find time, I have no intention of undertaking the task of getting an article to GA until at least next June. ♥ Nici ♥ Vampire ♥ Heart ♥ 14:59, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Well since I have three nominated now, and another one to complete with 'Blue this weekend, you'll just have to deal with it. :) Have a nice day. ♥ Nici ♥ Vampire ♥ Heart ♥ 15:07, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
 * I wasn't trying to be "snippy". Apologies if it came off that way - I'm a little pushed for time at the moment, and I'm not thinking my comments through a great deal. I think we should just end this conversation to avoid any more misunderstandings. Again, sorry and enjoy the rest of your day. ♥ Nici ♥ Vampire ♥ Heart ♥ 15:21, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
 * You mean right around the time real life problems and situations meant I became too busy to have long-winded conversations about random topics? Yes, I've made it a point to attempt to keep my posts on topic and refrain from rambling conversations that aren't directly related to wikipedia. At this point, it is a necessity to get any article work done at all during the weekdays. After all, that is why we're here. Article work to build an encyclopedia. I'll be honest, I'm not in the mood to have you dissect my motives for trying to be to the point, and maybe being concise than I was say a year or even six months ago. I'm sorry you feel that this is a problem, and I suppose the best way to solve it would be to end this conversation. Once again, have a nice day. ♥ Nici ♥ Vampire ♥ Heart ♥ 15:45, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

Hey man
just dropping a line im gonna nominate WWE Cyber Sunday (2008) as a good article is this a good nomination and i wanna work on something got any ideas? and rate my Userpage And Sign My Guestbook please thank you BigPadresDude 18:12, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

TNA Bound for Glory GA results
Please see Talk:TNA Bound for Glory/GA1 for more information. Chris (talk) 22:03, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Thank you. Chris (talk) 22:06, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Good job. It passed. BTW, this is my first article I have reviewed that I have had pass for GA. Chris (talk) 23:21, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

FLRC delegate election
Hi Will, you have 3 unanswered questions over there. Try to answer them before the election starts (about 24 hours away), please.  iMatthew  talk   at 00:06, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, again I'm concerned that you view it as "winning." Anyway, I'm being completely honest in my rationale. No grudge whatsoever was put into writing that, I wrote it based off of your answered.  iMatthew  talk   at 00:46, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

Featured list candidates/Desperate Housewives (season 1)/archive1
Hi there! I notice you have apologized for leaving a comment there that you didn't attend to. There is no need to apologize, you can just strike your comment out if you aren't going to write anything there. Just a suggestion. Thanks for your time though, and it is really unfortunate that you weren't able to review the article. Regards! (SUDUSER)85 03:40, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Hey thanks for your review. I've fixed two of your changes and have some comments for you at the FLC page. Cheers. (SUDUSER)85 13:28, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
 * I've fixed your changes but i have addressed something about the image. (SUDUSER)85 07:50, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Sorry
Sorry if I sounded like I was nagging and much thanks for your support. (SUDUSER)85 15:01, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Hey
Hey man. How was TNA Impact this week?  Save   Us.  Y2J  12:29, September 19 2009 (UTC)

FLR election
Hello, I just wanted to say thank you for giving it a shot and running in the election. I'm sure it couldn't have been easy, but you stuck in there and I admire that. I hope we can see more from you at FLC/R in the future. P.S. TNA sucks. -- Scorpion 0422  03:34, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

Hey
I don't mind the questions at all. My only reservation would be about using talk pages for "chatty" purposes like this.

But we'll let it go for now :P

When I was younger, my gender presentation was pretty much androgynous, although one might argue that outside of the professional suit-and-tie world there isn't really "masculine gender presentation" at all. I never really felt like I was like my friends at all. I knew I was never really a normal guy, even though I didn't give it a lot of thought for the first 18 or 19 years of my life. It's kind of a function of growing up in a very conservative town - no one ever told us about gender identity and gender role at all, let alone gender identity issues. I was never very social as a kid, and I never dated. Looking back, it's something I really regret, and the blame for it is something I've kind of been talking a lot about with my therapist lately (my father, me, the bumblefuck town where I grew up, there's plenty to go around).

I was able to go to college in a much more progressive town, and it definitely changed my life (I still live in the same town after graduating, if that tells you anything). I met a lot of people who told me things I needed to hear. The LGBT Alliance at my school saved my life, figuratively and literally. I studied gender quite a lot (queer studies was my minor), and came to realize that not only did I identify as female, I always had, without knowing it. It's really hard to put into words, because can you really say why you know that you're a guy? Aside from referring to your body (which you shouldn't), it's really something you can't at all explain. You just know it.

Pretty much every time I saw a girl when I was in college, I thought she looked happy. I knew I wanted what she had, being able to live that life (as a woman), and if I was able to live like that, I'd be happy. It was, to me, the better life than having to live as a man, which I never really feel I did. And of course I'm not saying it objectively is better, just better for me (there are plenty of people born physically female who transition to living as men - perhaps the most famous lately is Chaz Bono).

For a while, too long, I kept my identity inside and presented what society and my family wanted to see from me. It was a horrible time. I felt like I was acting a part, 24/7, and could never really be me. You can't know how hard that is without going through it. After a few months, I finally realized that no amount of crap I could get from anyone for being who I am would make up for how bad it was to have to lie every second of every day. I came out in a letter to my parents, and my father wrote me back to tell me I wasn't welcome in his home again, and to not contact him again. My mom lives in another state, so she wasn't in a position to give me that kind of reaction. She called me after getting the letter and we talked on the phone for almost three hours. She doesn't really understand what I told her (and I understand that she doesn't understand, it's pretty much impossible to get it without living through it), and she said she'd try to love me like a daughter like she loved me as a son, but that it might be hard for her. Haven't heard from her since. Both of my parents (and my sister, who's always been my closest friend) are very conservative and very Christian. I'm very NOT conservative and very NOT Christian, though I'm still trying to figure out what my political and religious identities actually are. I'm sure they all think I'm going to hell. My sister and I talk a lot, and I can feel that she's gotten a bit more distant from me, but she still stands by me and supports me a lot more than my parents. I was never that close to any aunts or uncles or cousins or anything, but they're all pretty much Bible-thumpers, too, and I'm surely they've heard all about what a perverted deviant I am. Whatever. I sometimes feel bad about cutting my father out of my life this cavalierly, but I think he think he pretty much took it like I had died, and the me that replaced the old me, the real me, is someone unrelated to him. I sometimes wish I could show him I'm still going to be pretty much the same person I always was, just a little different in appearance and a LOT happier, all things considered.

Lately my gender presentation has been feminine as much as possible. I just feel so right when wearing feminine clothing in public, even though I'm still bodily male (just starting HRT, awaiting SRS).

It's really the medical effects that I'm most apprehensive about. But a couple weeks ago, I was at a coffeehouse using the internet when I got approached by a guy. Think you know what I mean by "approached." I'm not really into guys, so I tried to kind of politely give him the cold shoulder. Didn't really work, so I had to be a little mean and blunt about it to get the point across. I saw him go talk to some other people after that and they were all laughing - in retrospect, I think it's because I fooled their friend more than I fooled them. A couple hours later, I was walking home (and this was my real mistake, walking home alone when it was late at night) and I hear "that's him" off behind me, and before I know it I'm eating asphalt. And I'm just getting the shit kicked out of me, it's all shoes and fists, until someone comes along and scares whoever it was off. They stole my computer. I never saw who hit me, and I didn't have much of a memory from that guy earlier in the night to tell to the police. I had to spend a night in the hospital and couldn't see very well for about two or three days after that. I have another checkup scheduled, but aside from a few scars and bruises I'm okay now. I've certainly been talking about this with my shrink, but I've told her nothing's stopping me from living as a woman. I'm not suicidal any longer (I sure used to be), but I still think I'd just as soon be dead than living a lifetime lie.

And it's kind of had a little to do with how I've conducted myself here. I didn't used to be a very nice Wikipedian, and I think it was because I let out all the frustrations I couldn't let out face-to-face on people who (for my purposes) didn't have faces. It wasn't right and I wish I had been smarter about letting out those frustrations, but the good thing about online interactions is that they're pretty much forgotten not long after they take place. And for that I'm grateful :)

Well...this was a lot more than I intended to write! Hope you gain a greater understanding. Alex finds herself awake at night ( Talk ·  What keeps her up ) 05:25, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

Re:
Man, every time I come here, my thread is archived. Anyways, that's a lot of tag teams. Didn't we discuss which ones we were going to work on? If we do work on Edge's article, we can definitely bring up Rated-RKO to GT, since Lita and Orton's articles are GA, up to you. Whatever you want to work on, I'm on board. :) -- ThinkBlue   (Hit   BLUE)  21:14, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh, okay. Yes, that's right. But first we need Christian done so we can move on. :) Yeah, I just read the discussion and was afraid that was going to be the result of it. Maybe he's like HBK; Shawn dislikes his first name, maybe Christian does too, but that would be original research on my part for Christian. Congrats to AJ, but a lot of updates on his article. Good luck on your lists. ;) Man, that fast. I just added her review page to my watchlist, so we'll see. -- ThinkBlue   (Hit   BLUE)  14:51, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I sense that vibe on you to move on. So, lets move on. That works. I can work on Edge's article in my sandbox and from there we can work on E&C together. I can do the same with Tomko. Ah, Gary, how I missed him so. Anyways, yeah he has a ton of lists and other accomplishments. I'm only part of two topics, TWGTT is all Nici. Yes, Nici and I are like the DX of Wikipedia. :P -- ThinkBlue   (Hit   BLUE)  15:19, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Alright, I'll start working on Edge, just saved it to one of my workspaces. It's not a problem, really. Whatever you have in mind, I'll try to do my best. :) I can take it, I can take anything you throw at me, Will. :) Sorry I just had to say it. Well, still, TWGTT is Nici's doing, not mine. Well, you are entitled to your own opinion, so, let's just leave it at that, shall we. Could you? I would appreciate it a lot. :P -- ThinkBlue   (Hit   BLUE)  15:57, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks Will, I appreciate it a whole lot. :) Wow... I... never believed... that I would have to help you accomplish everything in your to-do list. ;) But let's make it our resolution for the year. :P -- ThinkBlue   (Hit   BLUE)  16:24, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks and whenever you need a favor, please let me know. :) I know, I was just playing with ya; I was exaggerating. :P Yeah, make it and then we cross things out. I believe Christian would be the first one mentioned and the first one checked off. -- ThinkBlue   (Hit   BLUE)  17:01, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Wasn't he only their manager when Edge and Christian were part of the Brood? I'm not sure that counts for E&C. Never mind, I just saw the article. I guess. I mean, I don't really know that much of David Heath. Do you? Okay, I'm almost gonna be done with Edge's article, almost, do you think you'd be up for a copy-edit? -- ThinkBlue   (Hit   BLUE)  17:29, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

Well, if he was part with them, then yeah it's required that we include him. Thank God that Terri Runnels is GA. Alright, I'll try to see if I can get Edge's book for research with some info. in his article. Mainly his early career. I'm almost done, I need to work on the lead, I will need you for that too (just like Christian's) and I need the Familia section. The In wrestling and Championship/accomplishments I can leave to you, cause I'm not really good in that area. Is that cool? Dude, don't say that, you're busy, it's understandable. When you get to it, you'll get to it. :) -- ThinkBlue   (Hit   BLUE)  19:15, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Cool. :) You're welcome for it and thank you. Well, can you at least check, cause you don't know what other users have tried to sneak in and get away with. -- ThinkBlue   (Hit   BLUE)  01:59, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
 * I'll be done with both mañana. -- ThinkBlue   (Hit   BLUE)  02:29, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Alright, I'm done with both. I added the lead to the sandbox. Take it from there? -- ThinkBlue   (Hit   BLUE)  19:09, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Okay, sounds good. If something comes up, you don't know about it, let me know. Also, I'm open to suggestions to the article. Also, take your time, no pressure. :) -- ThinkBlue   (Hit   BLUE)  20:35, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah, the In wrestling and C/a sections are kinda hard. Though, the only ones I'm familiar with are HBK and Orton's. If you need help with your sections, I'm one page away. :) So after you finish, you want to trade sections, meaning I copy-edit the TNA ones and you do his early WWE? -- ThinkBlue   (Hit   BLUE)  15:02, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Cool, just let me know when you finish. I can't believe we're actually half-way there. ;) -- ThinkBlue   (Hit   BLUE)  17:45, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

It looks goods, though, the info. seems long. Have you thought of cutting some info. out? Hey, its fine, like stated above, no rush with this. :) Besides, I'm glad we're taking it slow, cause I gotta study for some upcoming exams and I really need to study, so. -- ThinkBlue   (Hit   BLUE)  19:49, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I don't want to, but I have to. That's good to know. You take your time and let's see if we can have this done by the end of the year. Man, we're in October, my this year has gone so fast. I have it here. -- ThinkBlue   (Hit   BLUE)  20:07, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Hopefully we can. That would be a good thing. Really? Nici and I got four and soon five, you think we can pull that number? -- ThinkBlue   (Hit   BLUE)  23:09, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Want to make this into a contest? You want to beat our record? lol. Wow, that's a whole bunch of listing[s]. :) I guess after you get Edge, I can definitely start on Tomko or E&C, IDK how you want to do it, but I'll start. The rest, I'm not sure I'm familiar with, the rest of the TNA people. -- ThinkBlue   (Hit   BLUE)  23:50, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I know. ;) Alright, after you're done, let me know, and I'll look over the article. If anything comes up in Edge's article, let me know, and if you have some suggestions, for the headers, don't hesitate to tell me. Cool, everything seems good. -- ThinkBlue   (Hit   BLUE)  00:40, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

Thanks with the save with Miz. -- ThinkBlue   (Hit   BLUE)  21:37, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

Knockout
Looks good, but I think the current infobox for the title is fine (the champions don't need to be linked multiple times in the infobox, and you made the ages for Wilde and Sarita 1 higher than they are).  TJ   Spyke   00:44, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
 * The age templates go by UTC time, where it is now technically September 21 (so you have to subtract to get the number for September 20).  TJ   Spyke   01:00, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I agree on A.J., this always happens when somebody wins a major title.  TJ   Spyke   03:46, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Barnstar
Thanks for the barnstar. I really appreciate it! --  Θaks  ter   10:52, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm glad to hear you're in happy mood. --  Θaks  ter   11:21, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Well nothing much in personally is happening with me at the moment. But I just like it when everyone is in WP:PW is generally in happy mood rather than one with a load of bickering (and I can gladly say the project's pretty much in the former). It makes it a friendly environment for everyone and generally a more producive one as people can help each other out focus on developing articles. --  Θaks  ter   07:46, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Very impressive. For a title that has only just been announced about a month ago and put into circulation two days ago, you've done a great job in expanding it. Out of the other articles, I can see a lot of potential in TNA X Division Championship being a future FA (and I've noticed you've nominated it twice before). Great work you have there. --  Θaks  ter   09:20, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

Thank you
Thanks for your participation in Featured list candidates/Desperate Housewives (season 1)/archive1. The resulted was Promoted. (SUDUSER)85 03:32, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

Courtesy note
Hey, just wanted to let you know that I've left a note for Curtis23 about how he can use his userspace. I'm hoping this will help end the little dispute you've been in. Cheers. Heimstern Läufer (talk) 08:58, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

The Major Brothers
I was thinking about dropping it and letting them go but then his ECW Championship match happened during a 3 week gap in between PPVs. I mean you have to try really hard to not put a title contender on a PPV if you only have 3 weeks. I still don't think he's done anything to deserve his own page and even the info we have about him on the current page is too much, incidental wins and losses over people with no feuds isn't of note. It's getting to the stage where I kinda want him to be fired or reunite with the other Major just to prove them wrong; I'm sure he'll do something soon to be notable but thus far I don't see it and don't see the point of two articles saying the same thing. Tony2Times (talk) 16:16, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

List of Unified WWE Tag Team Champions
Check it out I started a subpage User:Curtis23/List of Unified Tag Team Champions tell me how i'm doing on my talk page.

Why do you have to be so critical.

FL red link criterion discussion
See here. Cheeers, Dabomb87 (talk) 01:50, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

RE: Miss TNA
I'd consider the Miss TNA crown more of an "accomplishment" than a "championship" so I don't think it needs to be included in the champions/championships topics. I'd consider it on par with the Babe of the Year and Rookie Diva accomplishments in WWE...neither of which are included in the List of former championships in World Wrestling Entertainment, for example. Nikki ♥  311   21:19, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

RE:Angel Williams/Angelina Love
I'm going to decline to move this one. I think it needs a discussion first. Because she no longer works for TNA, she can no longer use the name "Angelina Love." Nikki ♥  311   19:22, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

IWGP question
Hi, I just saw your question (sorry - other people had added to the bottom of my talk page, so I didn't see your post). Unfortunately, I know very little about IWGP, so I haven't been able to find any information about weight limits. If I can find anything, I'll let you know. GaryColemanFan (talk) 06:25, 28 September 2009 (UTC)