User talk:Write of way

Repost of Adam Bold
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Conflict of Interest guideline
Hello, Write of way. We welcome your contributions to Wikipedia, but if you have an external relationship with some of the people, places or things you have written about on Wikipedia, you may have a conflict of interest or close connection to the subject.

All editors are required to comply with Wikipedia's neutral point of view content policy. People who are very close to a subject often have a distorted view of it, which may cause them to inadvertently edit in ways that make the article either too flattering or too disparaging. People with a close connection to a subject are not absolutely prohibited from editing about that subject, but they need to be especially careful about ensuring their edits are verified by reliable sources and writing with as little bias as possible.

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Please familiarize yourself with relevant content policies and guidelines, especially those pertaining to neutral point of view, verifiability of information, and autobiographies. Note that Wikipedia's terms of use require disclosure of your employer, client, and affiliation with respect to any contribution for which you receive, or expect to receive, compensation.

For information on how to contribute to Wikipedia when you have a conflict of interest, please see our frequently asked questions for organizations. Thank you. Brianhe (talk) 17:35, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Adam Bold (June 22)
 Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by MatthewVanitas was:

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MatthewVanitas (talk) 18:22, 22 June 2015 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Adam Bold (July 7)
 Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Sulfurboy was:

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Sulfurboy (talk) 05:20, 7 July 2015 (UTC)

Follow up on conflict of interest of notice above
Hi Write of way -- I work on conflict of interest issues in Wikipedia. The two articles you have worked on, have been the subject of paid editing in the past. Would you please tell me if you or an agency you work for, have any relationship with Adam Bold, The Mutual Fund Show, or agencies or companies affiliated with them? If you do, it is not the end of the world, as a first step you just need to disclose it, per the Terms of Use of Wikipedia (described in the COI notice above). Please do respond. Thanks. Jytdog (talk) 12:05, 7 July 2015 (UTC)
 * copy/pasted response at my Talk page here, to keep thread together. Jytdog (talk) 03:09, 8 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Hi - This is Write of Way. I'm new to Wiki and not sure how to respond to the COI comment. I do not work for an agency and am not an employee of Adam Bold or any affiliates. I do not personally know him. I used to work with one of his employees, Lisa. She asked if I would do a favor and write a bio page and some other pages that are related. I have rewritten the bio so that it is more objective.I realize the first version wasn't, but I believe it is now. The content may be similar, but it is sourced now and factual and doesn't sound like puffery. He is a notable person in the financial industry. Please let me know which part of the article you think is bias. I completely revised the article on the Mutual Fund Show so that it is neutral and sourced. Please let me know what specific issues you have with the content, if any. Thank you in advance for your time and consideration. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Write of way (talk • contribs) 18:17, 7 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks for replying! I cut your response from my Talk page and pasted it here, to keep the question and answer together.  Really -thanks very much for replying, and for disclosing the relationship.  That relationship does constitute a conflict of interest in Wikipedia.  You care about your friend, your friend has been apparently been instructed to create these articles, and you are helping her.   You have a stake in the matter and are not neutral.   As I wrote above, these articles have been created several times under similar conflicts of interest, and each time they have been deleted by the community.  Let me explain - this place is not a wild west - the community has created policies that govern what we do.  The key policy for whether an article should exist or not (this comes up all the time, as you can imagine) is WP:NOTABILITY.  There is a guideline that applies that policy to people - WP:BIO.  There is no specific guideline for radio shows, so the general NOTABILITY policy applies.   At a very high level, you can read WP:Golden Rule to get the flavor.   Bottom line, is that there have not been enough independent, reliable sources about the person or the show for the articles about them to have a Wikipedia article.  This has been decided several times now.   It appears that people connected to Mr. Bold or his show want to use Wikipedia to promote the show, but the use of Wikipedia to promote anything (see WP:PROMO) is also against our policies here.   So, please tell your friend Lisa that there is nothing that can be done at that time, as there are not enough independent, reliable sources about Mr Bold and his show to generate a Wikipedia article, according to Wikipedia's WP:NOTABILITY policy.  If you have any questions, you can reply here.  Thanks again for talking. Jytdog (talk) 03:19, 8 July 2015 (UTC)

With regard to the conflict of interest, I didn't work closely with Lisa so I would not say that she is a "friend" as we do not have and never had a social relationship and do not even live in the same state. I also haven't worked in the financial industry for over five years. I don't know Bold or have a relationship with him. Does that still constitute a COI? How does a bio get put on Wiki - just by an author simply feeling inspired to write about someone? I would think the writer would likely know of the person they are writing about in some way or another. I don't see how my relationship is any different. In regard to his notability, Bold was consulted in Fox Business a number of times, wrote a book and his company, has more than 120 offices and 37,000 clients. If there were more independent sources that supported that, would he be notable? Or is is company, the Mutual Fund Store, what is notable, so that instead should be written about instead of him? Thank you for your help.
 * You care about your friend enough to want to do her a favor; the COI passes right through her to you. It is really simple.  It is not a big deal and having a COI doesn't prevent you from creating an article.  You should however disclose the COI at the article Talk page, and if the article gets through the "articles for creation" process you should not edit it, after it goes live.  As for your other questions, I don't know what sources there are on him or his company, so I cannot comment. I do know that articles about him and his company have been deleted by the community twice now, and yours have been rejected at AfC.   Please keep in mind that Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a blog or a social media site - there are policies and guidelines that govern content; it is not just a wild-westy Facebook kind of place.     It all comes down to whether there are independent*, reliable sources (per WP:RS) about him and his company; it is not personal nor subjective.  There are enough such sources, or there are not!  (*Note, we stress "independent" because you cannot build an article on press releases or personal websites - what is needed, are pieces in reputable sources like the NY Times or WSJ that discuss the subject at length; sources with passing mentions are not sufficient) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jytdog  (talk • contribs)  20:51, 8 July 2015‎ (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Mutual Fund Show (July 10)
 Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Eclipsed was:

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-- Eclipsed (talk) (email) 07:51, 10 July 2015 (UTC)

Draft:Adam Bold concern
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Draft:Mutual Fund Show concern
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Your draft article, Draft:Mutual Fund Show


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