User talk:Wronkiew/Archives/2009/April

Dusty Bot request
DustyBot is working fantastically. Very nice to be relieved of that duty. But on a design note, is it possible to place the template after the template under a header of "Recognition"? I've been doing that in the past (see example) and it looks good (keeps things orderly). Let me know what you think. ~  ωαdεstεr 16  «talkstalk» 01:34, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
 * It is possible to place it after the information header, but the prevalent practice on Commons seems to be to place assessment templates first. I could make the bot check for an awards or recognition section and add the template there, but if the section exists, the page probably already has an assessment template, which DustyBot would modify. Does Commons have a recommended image page layout? Wronkiew (talk) 04:18, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
 * No clue; admittedly a personal preference. Though I have seen others being annoyed by the template coming first. But maybe we can start a trend? The description really should come first; it's the most important part. ~  ωαdεstεr 16  «talkstalk» 04:22, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I saw many pages on Commons where the Assessment tag goes after the information template. It'll be tricky to make it work right, but I'll see what I can do. Wronkiew (talk) 04:34, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
 * :-) ~  ωαdεstεr 16  «talkstalk» 05:09, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
 * This is done. New assessment templates will be placed after the information template. Wronkiew (talk) 05:07, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I very much appreciate. Allows any user to see the most important part first, the caption! ~  ωαdεstεr 16  «talkstalk» 07:38, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

New account: Hometown Kid sockpuppet
What!? That is not mine who the hell is that. I did not create that account, this user IS impersonating me. I want him deleted, now! Thank you. Hometown Kid (talk) 13:31, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Impersonator blocked, user page deleted. Wronkiew (talk) 14:28, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

Review
Thanks a lot for the review. I often find it easier to make incremental edits to pages, and I have just thought that this could get irritating for people with those pages on their watchlists, so I will attempt to cut down on that. As for the Hughes Medal work, whilst I see your point, I don't see why the page would be deleted (since it is in my userspace, and doesn't need to be deleted), and also I am not too worried about the attribution issue (I gave Ironholds permission to move the page). That said, I will work this out better in future, referencing the workpage when merging content into the articlespace. Again, thanks a lot for the comments and the review, it means a lot. :) — neuro (talk) (review) 20:28, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

GRB 970508 FAC
Hey mate! I've submitted GRB 970508 to FAC here. You are familiar with the content and how the article has progressed, so would you mind leaving some comments at the FAC? --Cryptic C62 · Talk 00:42, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I fear that I may be too familiar with the article to participate objectively at FAC, but I'll see if I can do some copyediting. Wronkiew (talk) 01:38, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Aye, a random support from you might turn a few heads, but you clearly knew what you were doing at the GAN, and you're not afraid to say "Listen, idiot, this is wrong," which is exactly what any good FAC needs! --Cryptic C62 · Talk 17:52, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Alrighty, I believe I have addressed your two concerns. Would you mind having another look and telling me what you think? Thanks, mate. --Cryptic C62 · Talk 15:59, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I'll take another look at it tonight. Wronkiew (talk) 16:06, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Hey mate. I have responded to your most recent concern at the FAC. In addition, you recently raised various concerns while copyediting and inserting comments into the article, all of which I have responded to. Would you mind having another look at your various concerns to see which have been satisfactorily dealt with? --Cryptic C62 · Talk 02:03, 13 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Er, thanks! I'm a tad confused, though. It didn't look to me as though you were entirely satisfied, but Karanacs promoted it anyway. I've left a note on his/her talk page. --Cryptic C62 · Talk 06:26, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I also replied there. I think the assessment was correct, but if you want more suggestions for improving the article, here they are:
 * Merge the measurements of the host galaxy's brightness. You should only report one number to avoid confusing people.
 * "Distance scale and emission model" should include some hard numbers.
 * Move the observations by Calar Alto Observatory out of the characteristics section unless you can tie the absence of a detected signal to some characteristic of the burst.
 * Other than that, you did address my concerns. Wronkiew (talk) 06:48, 15 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Alrighty, I'll try to address those concerns at some point, but I'll probably be spending most of my energy on Gamma-ray burst now that it's at FAC (you're welcome to join in on the fun!). In any case, I really appreciate your help. GRB 970508 wouldn't be what it is today without the persistent efforts you put into it. My goal was to create a paragon for all other GRB articles to follow, and you made that possible. Thank you. --Cryptic C62 · Talk 17:53, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Your Case Against Me
I don’t know that much about Wikipedia. I’ve learned more tonight than I have since I first signed up for a user account. But I’m still a relative newbie in terms of my skill and expertise.

But I can say that I know three things.

One, I am almost totally innocent of all the charges you have levied against me and I have tried my upmost best to prove that in my poor pitiful defense.

Two, I am no Native American / Indian, I have no idea who Joseph Eagle Feather is and thusly have never threatened anyone with legal action on this site

And three, you are way more experienced here, so you will probably get me kicked off this site, my innocence be dammed.

I can honestly say that I wish that I never heard of the stupid site. Any fun that I’ve ever had here has been totally eclipsed by this nonsense.Nuada79 (talk) 06:30, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Reply at Sockpuppet investigations/Nuada79. Wronkiew (talk) 07:04, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Re: Revert at ISO 639-1 language matrix
Thanks for that. As there were intermediate edits by other users, Huggle and I processed it as vandalism. I have retracted the warning and sent a peace dove. Thanks again. :)  Pyrrhus 16 ''' 18:05, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Cool, thanks for taking care of this. Wronkiew (talk) 00:07, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

RfA Thankspam
Paintings of smiling people are creepy. Wronkiew (talk) 00:31, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Agreed  Sp in ni ng  Spark  11:00, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

Automatic processing of your editor review
This is an automated message. Your editor review is scheduled to be closed on 21 April 2009 because it will have been open for more than 30 days and inactive for more than 7. You can keep it open longer by posting a comment to the review page requesting more input. End of line. DustyBot (talk) 03:54, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Since you operate the archival bot, is there a way you can program it similar to User:GimmeBot in order to add the discussion top and discussion bottom templates to the archived pages?-- T ru  c o   13:56, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Already done. Wait and see what happens on April 21. Wronkiew (talk) 14:00, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh I see now. But you shouldn't add to the archive until they are officially archived, because the instructions changed. Originally you were suppose to add your request to the archive regardless, but now it will be added once archived.-- T ru  c o   14:04, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh. I'll make the code change tonight. Thanks for pointing this out. Wronkiew (talk) 14:12, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
 * No problem.-- T ru  c o   14:31, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

For your work...

 * Thank you! I hope to start coding the new FPC task soon, just have to finish a few other projects first. Wronkiew (talk) 05:46, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

Re: Request for bot approval
Go ahead and close it, I'll request for a script to be made at WP:BTR in the near future. -- Dylan 620  Efforts · Toolbox 11:10, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Done. Wronkiew (talk) 03:55, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Possible bot task
The fact that was not in an article made me wonder if DustyBot could check if FPs are used in article space. Orphaned FPs should be placed back into articles and it's all too easy for a noob to just remove an image at will. ~  ωαdεstεr 16  «talkstalk» 06:44, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
 * That sounds like a good idea for a future bot project, one I might take on after I've finished up a few other things. How would DustyBot do this without getting into edit wars? What if the featured picture was replaced by a better, but not yet featured, version? An alternate idea would be to have it maintain a category of orphaned featured pictures, so they could be dealt with by a human as needed. Maybe combine it with a notification, either to the nominator, to the article talk page, or both. Wronkiew (talk) 04:00, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Yea, I wasn't clear; I intended for a category that users would check. ~  ωαdεstεr 16  «talkstalk» 14:41, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Actually, take a look here. We still would need to look for images used solely in galleries though. ~  ωαdεstεr 16  «talkstalk» 14:45, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Re: Images at 243 Ida
Hi, I apologise that I have overlooked attribution to the SVG and have corrected that oversight. As you saw, I have explained my actions at the FAC. I appreciate any corrections if I was wrong on my assertions. Thank you. Jappalang (talk) 02:23, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I think you should read over Derivative work and commons:Commons:Derivative works. Rasterizing and transcoding images does not attract independent authorship. I posted my thoughts about the images in 243 Ida at the FAC page. Wronkiew (talk) 06:14, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Uh, I did not just transcode or rasterize the image concerned. I cropped and reconstructed your work from File:243_Ida_large.jpg (note the difference in brightness/contrast).  Regardless, you are right that I have not an ounce of originality in that work (only "sweat of brow" effort).  I apologise for any unintentional slights you might have felt.  Jappalang (talk) 12:41, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Okay, I did not realize that you had reconstructed the image. Wronkiew (talk) 16:03, 29 April 2009 (UTC)