User talk:Wtfdemitri

May 2014
Welcome to Wikipedia. We welcome and appreciate your contributions, including your edits to Central California, but we cannot accept original research. Original research also encompasses combining published sources in a way to imply something that none of them explicitly say. Please be prepared to cite a reliable source for all of your contributions. Thank you. Binksternet (talk) 07:48, 14 May 2014 (UTC) the page needs a complete re do all of the information on this page does not apply or make any sense, but I understand I will try to make my edits apply to what you are saying thank you!


 * Again, please no original research, and all material added must be cited an verifiable a reliable source. I also fail to understand why you edited the Central Valley (California) page to read, "it is entirely located in Northern California despite one county being located in Southern California". That is very, very convoluted wording that will confuse readers. Either it is entirely in Northern California or it is not (emphasis added). Thanks. Zzyzx11 (talk) 08:01, 14 May 2014 (UTC)

I don't need you to be an asshole about it! That's not convoluted at all it's a fact, Wikipedia needs a lot of help with all of its California geography specifically the mess of Northern Southern and "central" California don't erase what I have just because YOU don't agree with a true statement god when was the community of Wikipedia filled with uptight assholes you all need to re evaluate.

Hello, I'm Gogo Dodo. I noticed that you made a comment that didn't seem very civil, so it has been removed. Wikipedia needs people like you and me to collaborate, so it's one of our core principles to interact with one another in a polite and respectful manner. If you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 23:09, 14 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Wtfdemitri, I have no idea where you thought that I "don't agree with a true statement". My complaint was that it is hard to follow for the average reader. What is not true and logical is that the California Central Valley is "entirely in Northern California". A better wording would have been to say something like, "Almost all of the California Central Valley is in Northern California, except for the portion in Kern County, which is in Southern California". Changing "entirely" to "almost all", and "despite" to "except", would be more simple, direct, and easier to follow. Otherwise, it comes across more like a lawyer trying to make a convoluted and complex oral argument. This is constructive criticism and nothing more. Thanks. Zzyzx11 (talk) 05:36, 15 May 2014 (UTC)

Since you all care so much about the readers you should know that you are Misinforming them completely by not mentioning Northern California in the majority of the information on the Central Coast, Central Valley, and Central California pages. I'm not going to have an edit war with people over Wikipedia. You're all only misinforming the readers, I'm trying to make it simpler and more understandable that these pages are all connected. But whatever. I don't know if you are all local or not, but even though geographically I'm correct as well, but Monterey county is definitely majorly thought to be in the Northern California region not the central coastal region that goes for locally and just over all the majority of people who you could ask.


 * With all due respect, your attempt "to make it simpler and more understandable" is counterproductive on a website that anybody can edit. Many people are not totally familiar with that NoCal-SoCal line across those county lines, and are more bombarded with more specific region maps like on both http://www.visitcalifornia.com/Explore/ and http://www.parks.ca.gov/?page_id=862 (which I may add, are websites operated by the CA Travel and Tourism Commission and the CA Dept of Parks and Recreation, respectively). That is why I prefer to use more specific regions like "Central Coast" and "San Joaquin Valley" like on those maps. Otherwise, you'll end up getting into more edit wars. Because those two websites -- for all intent and purposes, essentially funded by the CA state government -- are more "official and "reliable" than a single person claiming something else without citing any other "official" sources to back it up. For example, anyone can modify the Monterey County, California article on grounds that http://www.parks.ca.gov/?page_id=872 clearly indicates that Monterey County is part of the Central Coastal region. Regards. Zzyzx11 (talk) 06:09, 1 August 2014 (UTC)