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linguistic expertise?
Wugapodes, it occurred to me that you might have some expertise on the heart of the content dispute in the political correctness article. On the talk page I wrote:

To clarify: There are oodles of sources talking about people using the term pejoratively. If we could assume that the number of sources talking about people using the term pejoratively vs. number of sources talking about people using the term literally is an accurate reflection of actual usage, the word "primarily" would indeed be correct. This is the heart of the problem, IMO. It's not that no one is using the term nonpejoratively. It's that when they do, no one comments; it's not newsworthy when a word is used in its literal meaning. So without doing OR, how are we to express what we keep hearing from new-to-this-article editors who keep coming in here and saying, "Wait, what? That's not correct; I hear it used nonpejoratively often." My argument to Pincrete is that we need to do a reality check. His to me is that a reality check is OR. And there is where we get stuck.

Then after I wrote that, I was thinking, "I wonder if a linguist would have any idea where and how we might find that someone actually has done research on actual usage?" And I realized I'd just seen a linguist somewhere. :) I know you've been involved both at the article and the ANI, but as the dispute involves a HUGE wall of text at both places, much of it extraneous and dense, I wasn't sure whether you'd drilled down enough to know what the actual root of the issue was.  valereee (talk) 14:36, 25 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Always happy to try and help. My thoughts upon reading your question would be to search "linguistic perception of 'political correctness'" on Google Scholar which seemed to yield a few promising results. Burridge 1996 seems to analyse it as a euphemism and should have some information on how it's used, and Andrews 1996 seems to look at it from a language and thought perspective which might have some info as well. Both these are from about 20 years ago, which if I recall the arguments I've seen, is part of the problem. I filtered out results from before 2012, and a few results caught my eye like Goncalo, et al. 2014, Formanowicz 2015, and Chatman 2012.
 * I'm out of town for a funeral at the moment, so don't have ready access to the papers I linked, but someone at Resource Requests might be able to get you a copy faster than I can. If not, I can give them a read this weekend maybe and try and give some additional comments. Hope that helps! Wugapodes (talk) 00:07, 26 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Very cool, thank you so much! :) valereee (talk) 16:37, 26 February 2016 (UTC)


 * Hi Wuga, I noticed you brought up the Goncalo study. As it happens, it's freely available and I have recently brought it up as a source on the talk page. It specifically states "often derogatory". I'm hoping that this might possibly sway your mind in terms of picking a side in the argument? --Mr. Magoo (talk) 12:26, 1 March 2016 (UTC)

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Hi there,

Thanks for taking the time to close Articles for deletion/List of baroque pop artists.

However, as the rationale you provided makes clear, the result isn't so obvious (i.e. it falls into "close calls and controversial decisions"), such that I'd like to request you revert and leave it to an admin. In fact the only keep !vote that made the case for notability based the argument on a flawed premise (that allmusic sidebars are acceptable sources such that the article shouldn't have been "purged"). As I see it, this is an obvious merge. As you've closed it as keep rather than no consensus, despite saying a merge discussion can take place elsewhere that close will stymie attempts to merge. Regardless of my own explanations, however, the fact remains that consensus is not sufficiently clear for a NAC in my opinion. &mdash;  Rhododendrites talk  \\ 04:51, 13 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Done. I still think there is clear consensus to keep as it stands, but I don't see a problem with allowing someone else to close or relist it. If my reading was wrong, reopening is for the best, and if my reading was right, it will get closed the same way. So I don't see a downside to reopening. Thanks for bringing this up! Wugapodes (talk) 03:20, 14 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I shouldn't have gone into my own rationale as I'm not trying to persuade you to close a different way -- just that I don't think it's so clear cut. Appreciated. &mdash;  Rhododendrites talk  \\ 12:13, 14 April 2016 (UTC)

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 * Thanks for the heads up and all your kind words. I added that functionality to ussc itself since it's probably something I (and others) will run into in the future. Your examples have been really valuable, and I really do appreciate them. Coding a template is made so much easier when there's a clear outline, so your breakdowns of the style are as much a part of all this template editing as my coding. Wugapodes (talk) 02:37, 8 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Thanks so much for making those changes to the template; it really will make life easier for editors in the future. Do let me know if there is anything else I can do to help. All the best, -- Notecardforfree (talk) 03:19, 8 May 2016 (UTC)

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Brent Burns
Hi Wuga. You reviewed, and accepted it. I have reverted, it would need sources per WP:V. For years the article has been saying "Barrie Icemen" and "North York Canadiens". A change into "Barrie Colts" and "North York Rangers" is an attempt to be sneaky. Catch you around, Sam Sailor Talk! 11:25, 9 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks for reaching out and for maintaining the article. I accepted the revision because it didn't seem to obviously violate any of the general criteria for not accepting, so I accepted and hoped someone with more knowledge would revert if it was incorrect. So thanks for keeping an eye on the article, and for getting in touch! Wugapodes (talk) 17:29, 9 May 2016 (UTC)

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 * I participated in the discussion and posted a note at WP:VPP so hopefully there will be more discussion there. Thanks for giving me a heads up on the discussion! Wugapodes [thɔk] [kantʃɻɪbz] 20:15, 19 May 2016 (UTC)

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Aaaaack
It's not ready! I was hoping i'd get a longer wait so I could work on it DURING nomination! I just nom'd that an hour ago! Still appreciate a review but I just wanted to let you know that it might fail '^^  danny music editor  Speak up! 19:23, 28 May 2016 (UTC)
 * I can hold off then, let me know when you're ready. If you'd rather I put it back in the queue, I can also do that. Sorry for the added stress! Wugapodes [thɔk] [kantʃɻɪbz] 19:31, 28 May 2016 (UTC)
 * You know what, put what you've got in there. But I may need extended time if you do decide to put it on hold.  danny music editor  Speak up! 19:48, 28 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Okay, it still will be a few days so take your time, and if I do put it on hold (which is likely, I've only ever quick failed four articles) I'll be sure to give you extra time. Good luck on the improvements! Wugapodes [thɔk] [kantʃɻɪbz] 19:51, 28 May 2016 (UTC)

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Los Espantos
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Thank you...
...so much for your appreciative note. Getting the article into some kind of useful shape has been something of an uphill ride. But it's easier by the day; always a good sign! Haploidavey (talk) 19:27, 2 July 2016 (UTC)