User talk:X!/Archives/04/2010

Hubert Kupper
As the closing admin of Articles for deletion/Hubert Joseph Kupper, you might be interested: I recieved a response from the United States Marine Corps History Division today, and the wealth of information makes some of the claims to notability more plausible. I intend to request a copy of his service record, and if it pans out, I might ask you to restore the article so I can fix it with a solid reference. If not, it's an interesting FYI.  bahamut0013  words deeds 19:33, 30 March 2010 (UTC) P.S. I'm not going to watchlist your page, so if you reply here, please use talkback.

New edit counter (nice!) + misses extraordinary namespaces
Hey Soxred93. Your new edit counter is sweet, so much quicker!
 * old
 * Executed in 57.76 seconds. Taken 6.59 megabytes of memory to execute.
 * new
 * Executed in 2.05 seconds

I do see an issue that at WS (enWS) that it doesn't create extra namespace titles, while it does generate the top 10 list. http://toolserver.org/~soxred93/pcount/index.php?name=Billinghurst&lang=en&wiki=wikisource

Thanks for the tools that you build. billinghurst  sDrewth  07:34, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the quick fix billinghurst  sDrewth  21:26, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

Username reporting
Where do I make suggestions about the usernames the bot catches/when it reports them to UAA? I've been noticing some patterns that the bot doesn't catch at the moment. Ks0stm If you reply here, please leave me a  message on my talk page. 15:07, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
 * User talk:SoxBot/UAA/Blacklist. ( X! ·  talk )  · @996  · 22:54, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

FLRC
nominated Diamond Rio discography for featured list removal here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets the featured list criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks; editors may declare to "Keep" or "Remove" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many otters • One bat • One hammer) 17:03, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

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SoxBot UAA
It appears SoxBot is reporting usernames with WAIT_TILL_EDIT before they edited. Could you fix this?  N ERDY S CIENCE D UDE  (✉ message • changes) 13:42, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
 * And possibly malfunctioning.  —  Soap  —  19:26, 1 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Thanks Soap, beat me to it :). Tagged that account as having a repeating character when in reality it didn't. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 19:28, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Fixed both. With the repeating characters, it was treating spaces as characters. With the WAIT_TILL_EDIT problem, it was due to the fact that it went into a loop where it would check over and over again, and if the contribution count was > 0, it would stop loopign and report. However, while it did this, if there was an HTTP error, which there is sometimes, it would read that as "greater than zero", and report. ( X! ·  talk )  · @996  · 22:53, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

Finished translation for Edit Counter
Here is the Hebrew translation. Please note that I have tried to keep the translations widely accepted on the Hebrew Wikipedia in order for the tool to be understandable, but one or two of those is so incredibly ridiculous that I used another word to be understandable. Please note also that the script is right to left, which may create formatting glitches. I hope this won't be a problem in the long run. Cheers, —Ynhockey (Talk) 08:50, 29 March 2010 (UTC) &lt;pre>$1&lt;/pre>
 * מונה עריכות (גרסה $1)
 * ניווט
 * הצג מקור
 * $1 אינו ויקי קיים
 * ברוכים הבאים למונה העריכות של X!!
 * שם משתמש
 * ויקי
 * שלח
 * שגיאת MySQL, נא דווחו ל-X! בעזרת ממשק דיווח השגיאות. הקפידו לדווח על השגיאה הבאה:
 * $1 אינו קיים
 * הזהרה: השהיית העתקת השרת (replication lag) גבוהה, לכן ייתכן ששינויים שנעשו לאחר $1 לא יוצגו.
 * ערך
 * מידע כללי על המשתמש
 * קבוצות משתמש
 * עריכה ראשונה
 * ערכים ייחודיים שנערכו
 * כמות עריכות ממוצעת לערך
 * סה"כ עריכות (כולל עריכות שנמחקו)
 * עריכות שנמחקו
 * עריכות קיימות בפועל
 * number_format($1)
 * עריכות למרחב שם
 * עריכות לחודש
 * יומנים
 * משתמשים שנחסמו
 * הרשאות מתשמש ששונו
 * חשבונות שיוצרו
 * דפים שנמחקו
 * דפים שפוטרלו
 * דפים שמוגנו
 * דפים ששוחזרו
 * משתמשים שחסימתם הוסרה
 * דפים שמיגונם הוסר
 * קבצים שהועלו
 * משתמשים ששמם שונה
 * הרשאות שניתנו
 * הרשאות שהוסרו
 * דפים שהועברו
 * ערכים שנערכו הכי הרבה
 * בוצע ב-$1 שניות
 * $1 מגהבייט זיכרון נדרשו על מנת לבצע פעולה זו
 * הצג בשפות אחרות:
 * (לא שלם ב-$1 הודעות)
 * מעוניינים לסייע בתרגום? ראו את דף התרגום למידע נוסף.
 * פעולות
 * מונה העריכות של X! אינו זמין בשל תקלת MySQL. שרת מסד הנתונים (yarrow) אינו פעיל, ולכן לא ניתן לקבל תוצאות בעזרת המונה. תקלה זו משותפת לכל השירותים שמשתמשים בשרת זה. אם ברצונכם לקבל כמות עריכות בלבד, ניתן לעשות זאת דרך דף ההעדפות האישי. עמכם הסליחה.
 * מצב MySQL
 * עמכם הסליחה, אך כדי לחסוך במשאבי המערכת, מספר העריכות עם פי שם מרחב אינו מוצג למשתמשים בעלי מעל 45,000 עריכות.
 * שבועות
 * ימים
 * שעות
 * דקות
 * שניות

Filter 287
Why is a 2.81 ms runtime "too slow"? I was rather proud of the job this filter just did on its intended target, too. NawlinWiki (talk) 20:37, 2 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Narrowed, now under 2 ms with not very many conditions. I reactivated as tag only for the moment.  Please let me know if you have a problem with the new version.  NawlinWiki (talk) 21:00, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm not going to say much here as it's a private filter, but I'm not really convinced of the effectiveness of this filter as-is. At 1.81ms we would hope that the filter is able to pick up pretty specific tracking, but it is very generic here and will miss quite a bit. Particularly, running lcase on old_wikitext can be quite expensive because string manipulation is expensive as it is, and old_wikitext can be quite large (just think of how large it is for T:TDYK, for example). Preferably we can find something a little more specific to his MO. (This may be better to continue offline.) -- Sh i r ik ( Questions or Comments? ) 23:46, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

A Message
You are a genious. I just used your thing-amabob that shows achart for where your edits go, and that is pure genious. -User:Huckamike

Wheres the month counters???
They were very helpful, especially with my anti-vandalism work. Any idea when they might be coming back? Outback the koala (talk) 23:34, 24 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Opt in?!? Thats ridiculous! I'll also ask my credit card company not to keep track of my purchases - just send me the blank check! What could peoples objections possibly be? Please reply when you can. Thank You. Outback the koala (talk) 23:36, 24 March 2010 (UTC)
 * It started with the section above, followed by what is essentially a cease-and-desist letter from the toolserver administrators. To say that I'm unhappy that my edit counter, which has existed for well over a year and a half, which was based on many other edit counters which use the same features, which I've spent dozens of hours work on, which has resulted in over 800,000 hits, has been asked to make two features which has made it as popular as it is, is a large understatement. I'm doing all I can to get them to reconsider. I apologize for the convenience. ( X! ·  talk )  · @031  · 23:45, 24 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Seconded. Yours are terrific tools and people can always "opt out" of using them. Keep up the good work. Johnlp (talk) 23:49, 24 March 2010 (UTC)
 * No good deed goes unpunished :/ Calmer   Waters  23:59, 24 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Hmmm... I opt in :). — Air plane  man — 01:16, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Where do I go to opt in? Acebulf (talk) 01:19, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Better yet, how do I opt in? --White Trillium (talk) 01:33, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Instructions are shown when you get your edit count. ( X! ·  talk )  · @108  · 01:35, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Dammit the hell, I'm getting tired of this crap. Please let me opt in? --White Trillium (talk) 01:40, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
 * "Graphs have been set to opt-in as a result of a single complaint resulting in what is essentially a cease-and-desist letter from the toolserver admins. If you want to see graphs, please create User:White Trillium/EditCounterOptIn.js with any content. Alternatively, you can create meta:User:White Trillium/EditCounterOptIn.js to opt-in across all Wikimedia wikis." That do? ( X! ·  talk )  · @117  · 01:47, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for adding the OptIn code, X!, and so quickly. To be honest I was afraid you would simply abandon the tool in frustration.   —  Soap  —  01:54, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I tell you, it crossed my mind. ( X! ·  talk )  · @129  · 02:06, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

I'm sorry to hear that, X. I just wanted to let you know I think this decision is bullshit, considering there are far more pervasive tools out there. Again ridiculous!! Stay strong (you can always call upon the hoards that support you, don't forget!) Outback the koala (talk) 03:11, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Late agreement, this is absolutely ridiculous, and if I was any good at coding, I'd be making my own counter right now. 70.243.143.172 (talk) 05:27, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm surprised the toolserver admins don't care more about clogging up the recent changes at meta with opt-ins ;). Seriously, I expect I'll find myself emailing them a complaint. - Kingpin13 (talk) 08:14, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Indeed, thanks for changing this is so soon. Im glad this great tool didn't get strangled by all that excessive red tape (Again, for the love of it, public logs + external tools = nonsensical to filter). Just a question though: Even after i opted in, the "Top edited articles" refuses to display for me. Has it been disabled completely for now, or is it a bug \ something on my side? Excirial ( Contact me, Contribs ) 08:53, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm really very sorry for all the problems you've had with the editcounter servertool. To have a whole opt-in/opt-out discussion seems ridiculous, like many people have already written here, since if you don't want your Wikipedia edits to be displayed, then you shouldn't really be editing here. I for one really appreciate your hard work across all Wikimedias, X!, please don't give up – having your tool is great, especially the link at the bottom of one's Special:MyContributions page. Don't let any of the crap here get you down and please keep up with all of the amazing stuff you do! If there's anything I can do to help, you can always let me know. Jared Preston (talk) 09:45, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

I would also like to offer a word of encouragement. I love your tool and hope you are able to convince the toolserver administrators to agree to an opt-out model. —Ute in DC (talk) 15:15, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I just got back from Wikibreak and found this absurd change. This is to add my thanks for your patience and to let you know that I gave Gnu1742 a link to this discussion so he's aware of the controversy he stirred up.  I endorse Ute's opt-out suggestion.  --SteveMcCluskey (talk) 20:11, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

German Editcounter
Hi X!, I like the new surface of the editcounter. But could you add a "n" in "Namensräume" at the pie-chart? --Mazbln (talk) 21:41, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
 * ✅ ( X! ·  talk )  · @961  · 22:03, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

MediaWiki:Abusefilter-warning
Isn't this meant to be a general warning for any edit that trips an abuse filter? --Geniac (talk) 02:43, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

SoxBot on WP:CHU
When SoxBot tags an entry with "" can you change it so it mentions which username it has a problem with? Something like this: "" This will help us when we change the entry to another desired username after SoxBot posts that. I hope that made sense. See this for an example. Note how the initially selected username was changed to another one after SoxBot tagged the initial username as being already in use (ignore the moving of the section). Thanks! :) ··· 日本穣 ? · 投稿  · Talk to Nihonjoe 04:36, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

SoxBot SandBot
Hello, X!. I have a suggestion for SoxBot. Currently it clears the sandbox at 00:00, 12:00, and whenever the header is removed. How about if SoxBot cleared the sandbox when an obscenity is used? It clearly states in the instructions 'no obscenities'. What do you think?  N ERDY S CIENCE D UDE  (✉ message • changes) 12:39, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't see that it says 'no obscenities'? – xeno talk 13:52, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
 * "Please do not place copyrighted, offensive, or libelous content in the sandbox(es)." This includes obscenities.  N ERDY S CIENCE D UDE  (✉ message • changes) 21:55, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

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Global Optin
Tempted to revert the uncivil comment above, but you let them complain earlier so c'est la vie I guess. In any case, the new counter looks and works great, and I along with a few million others appreciate what you do.

To my original point, have you noticed that the global optin JS file really needs to be valid JS to avoid breaking other user JS pages which get loaded? I am running on google chrome (if that matters), and I noticed that when I originally posted an invalid text page at meta it broke my other scripts (twinkle/friendly and other monobook scripts). Changing to valid JS code seemed to fix the problem. I guess the reasoning for using the JS file is to make sure that others cannot add a JS page to a different user, so I guess you can't change the file type - but maybe it would make sense to provide users with a sample one line code fragment that won't break other scripts. If I'm mistaken on what's causing this feel free to trout me. Thanks again for all you do. 7 13:05, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah, that's a known problem. Until the MW developers implement User:Example/Private subpages, which replicate the same features, this will have to remain. Sorry. ( X! ·  talk )  · @594  · 13:15, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the quick reply. Not a big problem.   7  13:17, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
 * What about using .css, or providing an alternate opt-in method? – xeno talk 13:51, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Just stick a bunch of text inside valid C comment markers  like this. -- Red rose64 (talk) 22:15, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Good idea Redrose64 - I created some pre-populate templates which you can see in the draft/suggested changes to the RFA Nom process. Maybe they could be shown in X!'s edit counter output to help less technical editors do it automatically.   7  00:54, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
 * We could auto-protect select user subpages through the abuse filter – you'll just have to convince the community that it's a good idea. I tried that some time ago, but the response was divided. Amalthea  21:58, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

Сannot see Month counts, logs etc.
please have a look http://toolserver.org/~soxred93/count/index.php?name=alam82&lang=en&wiki=wikipedia  i cannot see the month counts and logs etc ? why... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.113.219.141 (talk) 10:17, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I Have the same problem, now… And contribution's counter isn't correct. Thank for your answer--Gars d&#39;ain (talk) 18:46, 30 March 2010 (UTC) [French wikipedia]
 * You need to opt in to see the month counts and logs due to a complaint from toolserver admins.  Set Sail   For The   Seven Seas   285° 16' 15" NET   19:01, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't know what I have to do : can you explain to me, please? give the details of the operation to do…
 * This is what i have on the board… (but no details by month)
 * Comptes par mois
 * User has not yet opted in. If you want to see graphs, please create User:Gars d'ain/EditCounterOptIn.js with any content. Alternatively, you can create meta:User:Gars d'ain/EditCounterGlobalOptIn.js to opt-in across all Wikimedia wikis.
 * Articles les plus modifiés
 * User has not yet opted in. If you want to see graphs, please create User:Gars d'ain/EditCounterOptIn.js with any content. Alternatively, you can create meta:User:Gars d'ain/EditCounterGlobalOptIn.js to opt-in across all Wikimedia wikis.
 * Sorry, perhaps, my english isn't very well. Thanks for all.--Gars d&#39;ain (talk) 09:05, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

Editcounter translation (bn)
Hey X!, I translated your new edit counter into bn. I see few problems there. Since anybody can submit translation, I think someone sent something wrong and you updated that with that mistakes. I've already sent a correction, but it isn't updated yet. Can you fix them? Another problem is Bengali characters (translation of namespace) are not showing when I point my mouse on month count graph (what tells the percentages of edit in each namespace). What it shows is some eccentric characters. Pie charts also have lacking in Bengali script rendering. Hope you got it. If you need more to know, please let me know. Cheerio. :) Tanvir 12:29, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

Edit Counter
Hey, I tested your new edit counter out, and it seemed to work fine, except my monthly edits and all that stuff was not available because it said I had not "opted in". I'm just wondering if this is normal, and if you wanted to be notified of this.- Jakkinx | Talk | Sign! 22:03, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
 * See this conversation. Apparently someone complained about the month, even though it uses public log data and a lot of external sites offer the same feature. Therefor the counter is opt-in now. Just create the .js file it mentions with some random content, and it will work again. Excirial ( Contact me, Contribs ) 22:28, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

What sort of text is supposed to be on the "/EditCounterGlobalOptIn.js" and the other related page? Thanks. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 01:24, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Nevermind, I guess I will have fun vandalizing my own pages. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 01:27, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Strike that, I can't get it to work. Any help would be great. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 02:01, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
 * It's working for me. ( X! ·  talk )  · @885  · 20:14, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
 * After you wrote on my talk page, I checked and it worked fine. I guess there was a delay there. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 03:14, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

SoxBot's UAA reporting seems to be down
There aren't any new reports by your bot at WP:UAA/BOT in over 3 full days. THis probably means that the user name watching task is down. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 06:43, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Fixed. The task is now on a crontab, so it should always be up now. ( X! ·  talk )  · @549  · 12:10, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

Possible User Name Change
I know this probably seems weird to ask after my failed RFA, however this has nothing to do with that. I chose that username because I liked it at first, but I realize that it is too long and want a much shorter one. Is there a way to do that. I just found out you were a burocrat, so I though you would be the best person to ask. Thanks for any help you can provide.  Pop Music Buff talk  00:11, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
 * The place to request username change is at WP:CHU. Also, sorry about the confusion at your RfA. ~ N ERDY S CIENCE D UDE  (✉ message • changes) 00:13, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you :)  Pop Music Buff talk  00:20, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

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Tool
Hello X! I saw your handy tool here and wondered if it could work for nl,wikipedia as well. It would be a great help for us in controlling vandalism better so I hope to hear from you. Thank you, MoiraMoira (talk) 07:04, 15 April 2010 (UTC) (admin on nl-wiki)