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 * Why did the other user not receive a warning? Does it have something to do with him supporting your POV? Xabian40409 (talk) 02:16, 6 May 2013 (UTC)


 * It has something to do with the fact he is an experienced user, and likely has been warned or has warned others about 3RR, and the fact he only has 2 reverts, while you have 3. — Arthur Rubin  (talk) 02:20, 6 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Abusing admin powers to attack an editor that doesn't disagree with you. Nice, Arthur 207.172.121.146 (talk) 05:27, 30 July 2013 (UTC)


 * We had two apiece. The first one doesn't count, as I was making a modification, not reverting. Also, I have been an editor (sure, on and off, I don't spend my life here) since 2005, so I am no new kid on the block. Xabian40409 (talk) 02:49, 6 May 2013 (UTC)
 * You had four edits, all removing "conspiracy" from the lead. The first was a "modification", although some might call it a revert.  The latter three, although not all pure reverts, removed "conspiracy" from the lead, so were reverts "in part".  — Arthur Rubin  (talk) 03:08, 6 May 2013 (UTC)


 * I've raised the POV flag and started a discussion on the talk page that can be found here. Xabian40409 (talk) 05:39, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

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Xabian, I have removed the term vandalism on the talk page. Your edits were inappropriate but do not, in the opinion of editors I respect, rise to the level of vandalism. I apologize to you for using that term. Capitalismojo (talk) 20:27, 7 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Thank You Xabian40409 (talk) 22:55, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

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It was a serious suggestion. The birds project is scientific, and to my mind should follow scientific (metric) measurement. Projects can get exceptions from overall policy within their own areas (eg Physicists—metric only, Birds—capitalisation of species and Plants—binomial instead of common names). Having said that, I don't think we would get consensus within the project, the Americans will probably object. Might be worth a try again, though.

You are right that many measurements are given in mm. Even at FA, myself and other biological contributors often give small measurements only in mm, and it's never challenged. I assume that this is because 0.078 in is a meaningless to an American as 2 mm.

I still find it difficult to see why we need some of the measurements you include. I wouldn't object to a template, I'm just concerned that it's addressing an avoidable problems. Cheers  Jimfbleak -  talk to me?  05:54, 15 July 2013 (UTC)

Your opinion is needed in this discussion on Talk:Zeitgeist: The Movie
Hi. Two editors are advocating for the exclusion of any mention in the Zeitgeist: The Movie article that Peter Joseph, the creator of that film has stated publicly that words attributed to him in a story cited as a source in the article misquoted him, and that he has not distanced himself from the ideas expressed in that film, as that cited source indicates. I have responded to their arguments, but neither of them has responded directly to my counterarguments, but simply repeat the same statements of theirs over and over. Myself and one other editor disagree with them, so two editors are for the material's inclusion, and two are for its exclusion, with no sign of consensus in sight. Can you please offer your viewpoint in the discussion so that we can achieve consensus? Thank you. Nightscream (talk) 01:08, 22 July 2013 (UTC)


 * Hi There. I've been away for the past week, and at this moment I am not home. I will gladly weigh in; I did briefly scan the arguments and from what I can see it's nothing new from the usual suspects. The page appears heavily guarded by an unfortunate few who consider themselves guardians of the page. Mostly, they prefer if you accuse Zeitgeist of being Anti-Semitic. Try making that your opening foray and you can easily befriend them. If you take umbrage for moral reasons and would rather do battle, I utterly understand. Anyway, I will post to the discussion within the next 48-72hr. Cheers. sabine antelope 00:11, 27 July 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. In addition to the discussion on the Zeitgeist article talk page, a discussion has also been started at the BLP noticeboard appears to be offering their own "vote" in summarized, capsulized form. Someone mentioned that that was only for those not already involved in the discussion on the article talk page, but I don't know what the reason for that was, and it seems that that intent has not been adhered to, since editors from the article tp discussion have weighed in on the BLP talk page. Nightscream (talk) 00:31, 27 July 2013 (UTC)

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Personal attacks on Talk;:Zeitgeist: The Movie
You need to stop the personal attacks and strike-through or remove the ones you've made today. I can understand not liking another editors views, but the crap you've posted today is not acceptable. Insulting one editor's intelligence "...count past ten..." is bad enough but that last section is a damn good way to get blocked. Stop with the attacks. Strike-through or remove the ones you've already made. Ravensfire ( talk ) 04:42, 31 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Thank you, I appreciate it. Ravensfire ( talk ) 04:57, 31 July 2013 (UTC)
 * No problem. sabine antelope 05:01, 31 July 2013 (UTC)

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Well, Derryn Hinch IS in prison for the reasons explained in my edit. Most of this information comes from TV and popular Newspapers; I can hardly find you a peer reviewed journal article on the matter. Perhaps I will reference his blog; or is that also a contravention of policy? What is it you want from me: good sources (there are none ), or any sources? sabine antelope 02:01, 19 January 2014 (UTC)

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 * Duly noted; thanks for that. I consider your claim there are thousands of current natural disasters rather spurious, but I digress. Whatever makes you sleep at night. sabine antelope 15:58, 11 April 2014 (UTC)


 * That isn't "my claim" either. As stated above, I quoted the documentation of Template:Current (the  parent template in the series).  This refers to articles subject to change due to ongoing occurrences of any kind (not natural disasters in particular).  —David Levy 18:06, 11 April 2014 (UTC)


 * Hello again. I don't quite understand the current nature of the disagreement (which I previously believed had been resolved).
 * You thanked me for explaining the template's purpose. There was some additional confusion regarding the provenance/meaning of the "hundreds of thousands of articles" statement, so I clarified that it's from the parent template's documentation and doesn't pertain specifically to articles about natural disasters.  Then I waited until you'd resumed editing (to ensure that there were no other points that you wanted addressed here) before removing the template.
 * Now you've reinserted it again, with the edit summary "No valid basis for removing the template". Can you please elaborate?  Thank you.  —David Levy 05:39, 12 April 2014 (UTC)

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Hi, there. Actually I saw the link, Marcia formed as a "tropical low on the 16th, which is the formation date of the TC. The low intensified into a tropical cyclone and was named Marcia on the 18th. This is why I follow the BoM link as well to keep in track of these storms. Thanks. Typhoon2013  (talk) 06:32, 20 February 2015 (UTC)


 * Ok. Just in case you want a source, here it is: http://www.webcitation.org/6WP93DSNv . The low started is Marcia, not Lam. Typhoon2013  (talk) 06:34, 20 February 2015 (UTC)


 * That's an outlook and it clearly states "A tropical low is located in the Coral Sea along the monsoon trough and well off the Queensland east coast. This low may develop in strength over the coming days while initially moving further east, before taking on a more southerly track from Wednesday." That's the tropical low from which Marcia subsequently formed. The "date formed" is not the date the low formed, it's the date the cyclone formed. Besides which, you would still be mistaken, because according to this link again, that low pressure system had been extant since 0:00 UTC on 14 February. It's time you drop it. sabine antelope 06:43, 20 February 2015 (UTC)
 * If i may jump in here as one of the users who Typhoon2013 thinks of as an Administrator, but am not and just have an interest in tropical weather and have been here improving the pages in the region for a while. Marcia's naming and upgrade to a tropical cyclone (tropical storm) and Tropical cyclogenesis (formation) are two different events, it appears from the surface maps that are linked above that the formation took place on the Feb 15, however, for the time being I feel it is best to keep it to Feb 16 since we do not have proof that it was a tropical low on the 15th. It is also worth noting at this junction that a tropical low is Australia's term for a tropical depression (Pg 11) and are thus tropical cyclones in the global sense of the term. I wish to end by saying how much i appreciate you trying to exapnd the article and keep the facts correct - its great too see and if you have any questions just let me know on my talkpage :) Regards.Jason Rees (talk) 10:55, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

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