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I confirm that I am also Commons:User:Xaosflux. — xaosflux  Talk  02:19, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Hey


An addict has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling to someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Happy editing! Oh, and I took your suggestion for improving on Image:Cvutan.png. Here's the new version. :) Smile at others by adding {{subst:Smile}} to their talk page with a friendly message.

And because of this, I would strongly suggest you update that picture in that Toolbox up there. Because I don't wanna just modify someone else's stuff, especially if they're an admin. --Addict 2006 02:29, 3 March 2007 (UTC) its nice to hear this wikipedia services in business as well as social levels the business performance can be read from http://arrif.blogspot.com

MediationBot
The MediationBot, is a major aspect of our case management, and without it, we must do it all manually. As chair of the committee, I formally request the block be overturned.
 * On behalf of the Mediation Committee, ^ demon [omg plz] 14:19, 5 March 2007 (UTC)


 * We're currently running the new bot on Martinp23's toolserver account. He opened up User:MediationBot1, as the primary bot was blocked. Pending the new bot's approval (which has no reason why it shouldn't), I'm wanting to continue to run it on the old username. ^  demon [omg plz] 01:56, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for closing out that MfD that I speedied ... I was closing out a long ArbCom case tonight when I saw it pop up on my watchlist, and got distracted from finishing out the close. Regards, Newyorkbrad 02:26, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

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Thanks for dealing with noob101
I would like to thank you for fixing the vandalism to my user page/talk page, and for dealing with Noob101. I am glad that there are people like you out there to fix things like this. PS: while on the subject of Noob101, He made a category: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikipedians_who_are_failures and there is still another user in that category Eskimo14 Noob101 also appears to have vandalised their page, and pasted some text from my user page onto Eskimo14's.

Anyways.. Thankyou again, Mootoog 02:42, 10 March 2007 (UTC)


 * EDIT: Thankyou for deleting Category:Wikipedians_who_are_failures. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mootoog (talk • contribs).

Re: ArbCom talk
Thanks for letting me know. I don't think we are in the process of doing so, but I will point out your request on the ArbCom mailing list so that others are aware, and if we do decide to do something. Thanks again. Flcelloguy (A note? ) 03:11, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

RE:Page Deletion
Thank you. I did not know that we had to tag articles in a userspace with, but thank you nonetheless for deleting them. '~' St ep tr ip 13:01, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

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About the image Image:Gba hamepane.jpg
I would like to see this image, but I think I know what image tag it needs. I looked at the user's talk page who uploaded it, and it seems he doesn't know that much about uploading image. Asking because the image is related to Tokyo Mew Mew, and I usually edit articles related to it. "THROUGH FIRE, JUSTICE IS SERVED!" 03:10, 14 March 2007 (UTC)


 * I would for you to also restore Image:DSC07809.JPG. This would be the first time I've asked anyone to restore an image to add an image tag, so I first wanted to make I did it right with Image:Gba hamepane.jpg.  "THROUGH FIRE, JUSTICE IS SERVED!" 13:06, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Bot tagging
Thanks, but I'm 100% bot-free: I wouldn't know HOW to program/create/run one to begin with, considering the last time I did any programming I had to use punch cards. It's all Firefox tabs, pop-ups, copy-and-paste, and a list derived from the deletion log and run through some search-and-replace terms to create a list. I believe the technical term is "kludge".

See User:Calton/Testbed right now for a sample of the lists I use -- normally I don't save these in Wikipedia, just work out of Preview mode, but I thought you might need to see. Note that existing Talk pages, being in blue, pop right out. --Calton | Talk 02:04, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Response
I have posted a response on my talk page. No further messages will be posted here. -- RM 12:34, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Bot approvals process
Just in case any of you haven't seen the new bot request to track the bot approvals process, this is just a reminder to use the correct templates at BAG Admin Tools so the bot can correctly identify the stage of bot approval. Also, the approved requests section has been moved to a separate page at Bots/Approved bot requests for the Bureaucrats to watchlist. When approving a request, make sure you remove it from the main page and place it on that page so that a bureaucrat can flag it. Thanks. MetsBot 16:47, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

What is the flying spaghetti monster?
What is it?! DOTA fanatic 06:44, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Protected
Any chance Commodity will be unprotected? It's been over a month... shouldn't it at least be downgraded to SEMIprotected? Mahalo. --Ali&#39;i 19:06, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

User:Pelican
This indef. blocked user has returned as, and is making all the same edits. I thought you should be made aware. Another user has tagged him as a sock. Thanks Yankees76 04:31, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

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Re:Deletion request
Thanks for the help. The criteria is not just the striken ones. For the ones that have not been striken, the corresponding article in the sandbox must be checked to see if it is not part of any category and then deleted. For example, User:Ganeshbot/sandbox/Amroha. It has been de-categorized. It is complete and has just not been striken off the list. It would be great if those can be deleted too. Thanks, Ganeshk  ( talk ) 04:38, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
 * That will be fine! -- Ganeshk  ( talk ) 05:12, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Allahabad
I think that some sort of error occurred. I just noticed that a new article Allahabad was created, which I found odd as I had edited it several times. After looking at the deleted article I saw that you had deleted it based on Bot requests and User:Ganeshbot/Not created. It looks as if it was the only article deleted and I restored it, so no harm done. Cheers. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 12:59, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
 * That error occurred because the sandbox article had been redirected to the actual article and thus you deleted the actual article by mistake. I have deleted the redirected sandbox article. &mdash; Lost (talk) 00:43, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
 * No problems. Just one of things. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 00:52, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

High-speed editing
''You are currently editing a a VERY HIGH rate of speed. This can cause flooding of watchlists and recent changes. To edit at this speed, you should use a flagged BOT account. Would you have another option for these bulk CSD nominations, such as creating a list?''


 * Oh for the love of God. Look, the only "bots" -- as I've already told you -- I'm using are Firefox tabs and the CTL-V key, and I think Wikipedia can, somehow, survive 100 or so unambiguous deletion tags, give that CSD frequently jumps up to several hundred entries at a time, which it's nowhere to that level now. --Calton | Talk 01:19, 25 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Look, as I've already explained, THERE IS NO LIST. There's only a list of ALL Talk pages generated from the Deletion log. A small sample, once again:


 * 18:42 11/27 Betacommand (speedy deletion under I7)
 * 18:42 11/27 Betacommand (speedy deletion under I7)
 * 18:42 11/27 Betacommand (speedy deletion under I7)
 * 18:42 11/27 Betacommand (speedy deletion under I7)
 * 18:42 11/27 NawlinWiki (g1)
 * 18:42 11/27 Betacommand (speedy deletion under I7)
 * 18:42 11/27 Betacommand (speedy deletion under I7)
 * 18:42 11/27 Betacommand (speedy deletion under I7)
 * 18:42 11/27 TheParanoidOne (CSD A7: Non-notable person, group of people, band, club, company, or web content.)
 * 18:42 11/27 Betacommand (speedy deletion under I7)
 * 18:42 11/27 Betacommand (speedy deletion under I7)
 * 18:42 11/27 Betacommand (speedy deletion under I7)
 * 18:42 11/27 Betacommand (speedy deletion under I7)
 * 18:42 11/27 Betacommand (speedy deletion under I7)
 * 18:42 11/27 Betacommand (speedy deletion under I7)
 * 18:42 11/27 Betacommand (speedy deletion under I7)
 * 18:42 11/27 Betacommand (speedy deletion under I7)
 * 18:42 11/27 Betacommand (speedy deletion under I7)
 * 18:42 11/27 W.marsh (Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dalaina)
 * 18:42 11/27 Betacommand (speedy deletion under I7)
 * 18:42 11/27 Betacommand (speedy deletion under I7)
 * 18:42 11/27 Betacommand (speedy deletion under I7)
 * 18:42 11/27 Betacommand (speedy deletion under I7)
 * 18:41 11/27 Betacommand (speedy deletion under I7)
 * 18:41 11/27 Betacommand (speedy deletion under I7)
 * 18:41 11/27 Betacommand (speedy deletion under I7)
 * 18:41 11/27 Betacommand (speedy deletion under I7)
 * 18:41 11/27 Betacommand (speedy deletion under I7)
 * 18:41 11/27 Betacommand (speedy deletion under I7)

The way the orphaned talk pages are found is through the human eyeball -- unless you want to write some sort of script that finds them. Go to it, it'll save a lot of trouble, but until then, this is how I'm doing it.

As for my errors, that's five or so out of -- what? -- 1-2,000 that I've tagged. Considering that the error rate for the deleting admins -- who should have been deleting the pages to begin with instead of relying upon people like me to sweep up after them -- is closer to 1% to 5%, depending, perhaps your advice has higher priority targets. --Calton | Talk 01:39, 25 March 2007 (UTC)


 * ...but instead of creating all of these edits, could you achieve the same affect by just posting all these links in a single page?


 * Fine idea, except for being completely unworkable. To see, take a look at the list above: I want you take it, reading it Edit mode, and extract ONLY the blue links onto a separate list. Now repeat that for a list of 5-10,000 items. Clicking a link in front of you? Much faster. --Calton | Talk 02:05, 25 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Are you getting these off of the deletion log? Where you would see entries such as:
 * *2007-03-25T01:54:33 User:Betacommand (Talk | contribs | block) deleted "DF Army" (Deleting page per CSD A1: Empty article.)
 * And just picking all the blue links, going to that page, then editing that page?


 * You're not paying attention: NO, I am not simply going to Deletion log and hitting blue links, as a quick glance -- in Edit mode, as I told you -- at the list I pasted in above would show. Since you don't seem to want to hit that button, the text:


 * 18:41 11/27 Betacommand lit. 'Tobycrabel.jpg' (speedy deletion under I7)
 * 18:41 11/27 Betacommand lit. 'Toby Publicity 4.jpg' (speedy deletion under I7)
 * 18:41 11/27 Betacommand lit. 'Toby Lightman Publicity 3.jpg' (speedy deletion under I7


 * The Deletion log, note, does NOT -- let me repeat that, does NOT -- show whether any Talk pages of deleted pages exist. The list must be massaged first to insert the templates which reveal the orphaned Talk pages. --Calton | Talk 02:27, 25 March 2007 (UTC)


 * While of course you can't see if the links are valid or not in edit mode, are you placing these on-wiki to see the blue/red state?


 * Let me refresh your memory, from User_talk:Xaosflux above: ...normally I don't save these in Wikipedia, just work out of Preview mode, but I thought you might need to see. Note that existing Talk pages, being in blue, pop right out.  --Calton | Talk 02:45, 25 March 2007 (UTC)


 * ...and you are not error-checking the bluelinks. Don't insult me or my intelligence, please.


 * flooding? I'd say that that word does not man what you think it means.


 * And a making a series of 5,000-item pages that admins have to be explicitly pointed to each time? This is efficient how, exactly? --Calton | Talk 03:00, 25 March 2007 (UTC)


 * As for flooding, you are currently consuming about 75% of the recent "recent changes log" for image talk's.


 * Which tells me that a) if you define your boundaries narrowly enough you can claim any superlative you like; b) Image Talk pages don't get a lot of traffic if what I'm doing "floods" the logs; and c) you don't like reading edit summaries, since every single one (okay, I missed a couple) of them has the same edit summary -- namely " " -- making them easy to pass over if you're using the human eyeball as your guide.


 * Don't like my methods? Write a bot to find these things and compile a list and/or get the deleting admins to remember to check for orphaned talk pages. I'm not making messes, I'm helping clean up after them. --Calton | Talk 00:03, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Re: CSD
Hi,

I just noticed that the category was populated after I tagged it for deletion (since it previously wasn't), and I was rechecking policy to see how to deal with that. In this specific case, I think that the creating user has misunderstood the role of each project, and is trying to replicate parts of the Commons here. Do you have any thoughts on categories in WP created exclusively for Commons material?  Tewfik Talk 01:39, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
 * In the case of Category:Maps of the Palestinian territories, I just forgot to recategorise an improperly labelled image, but it is indeed empty and should be deleted.  Tewfik Talk 01:56, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Yes, that changed. My understanding is that the categorisation of other categories isn't in and of itself a reason to maintain an otherwise empty category. As for the image, there is apparently now a content dispute, as someone has reverted my removal of the categorisation (in error, I believe). Perhaps at this point that issue needs to be worked out before the category is deleted. Still, I would appreciate if you could clarify on the Commons issue, since the user's rationale seems to be that since an image category exists on the Commons, it should also exist here, even if that means that it is only populated by other categories. I don't see the utility in creating multiple layers for a minimal number of images that should be on WP. It seems that the new strategy being used is to categorise images from the commons to populate these new categories (as in Category:Maps of the history of the Middle East). Let me know either way.  Tewfik Talk 02:07, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
 * That is fair. What of replicating Commons categorisation (and images) here?  Tewfik Talk 02:13, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. What do you think of this category. It seems that two of the images exist only on the Commons, and I don't see why the solitary image that is used on WP needs an image category and can't just be included a level higher. Am I off, or should the images be "untagged" and the third retagged?  Tewfik Talk 02:28, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

. Do you think you could delete the images and category?  Tewfik Talk 03:05, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I'd like to deal with the technical parts of this first so as to reduce the scope of any content dispute, and so I was hoping that you could deal with Category:Maps of Gaza Strip, since I followed the instructions you gave and transwikied.  Tewfik Talk 05:43, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Commons media in English wikipedia categories
Commons media are for the use of all wikipedia sites worldwide. The English wikipedia pages for those commons media list the English wikipedia pages on which those commons media are used.

The commons page for a particular image does not list the English wikipedia pages on which that image is being used.

There are images in English wikipedia categories that would not be accepted in the commons. Gif images, fair use images, etc.. So the link to the commons category allows for more public-domain images to be used in English wikipedia pages.

The existence of the English wikipedia category allows for links to be made to the commons category of the same name. So English wikipedia editors then know of the additional commons media available to them. Those images are sometimes better, as explained previously. Oftentimes there is a larger selection of images at the commons.

The existence of the English wikipedia category also allows a logical location for links to the English wikipedia subcategories.

Not all commons images are suitable for placement in English wikipedia categories. Images captioned in other languages for example.

I put some of the English-language commons images in the English wikipedia categories. This saves editors time in finding images. Because they don't have to click many commons images to open them up and see what language is used on the image. --Timeshifter 08:11, 25 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Also I would like to point out that another admin put the map he recently uploaded into this category:
 * Category:Maps of the Palestinian territories


 * There were subcategories linked there, too. Subcategories with both commons and wikipedia images. Also, there were links to the Atlas of Palestine, etc.. --Timeshifter 08:11, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Re:Common's categories
Thanks for the info and link you left on my talk page. I replied on my talk page. --Timeshifter 18:18, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

RFA Thanks
I would like to thank you for your support in my recent RFA. As you may or may not be aware, it passed with approximately 99% support. I ensure you that I will use the tools well, and if I ever disappoint you, I am open to recall. If you ever need anything, don't hesitate to leave me a note on my talkpage. Thanks again, ^ demon [omg plz] <em style="font-size:10px;">20:47, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

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Welcome...
Er...that was odd. But it's the thought that counts, right? Haha. --M1ss1ontom a rs2k4 (T 23:18, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Unprotection
Three days after you unprotected my userpage, it was vandalized by some anon. vandal whom I reverted and warned. This leads me to ask this question: Can you re-semiprotect my userpage? <font family="Trebuchet MS" color="#D2691E" size="2">~ <font face="Vivaldi" size="3"><font color="#FF0000">St <font color="#FFD700">ep <font color="#7CFC00">tr <font color="#00FFFF">ip  01:09, 30 March 2007 (UTC)


 * That'll probably make 'em mad! <font family="Trebuchet MS" color="#D2691E" size="2">~ <font face="Vivaldi" size="3"><font color="#FF0000">St <font color="#FFD700">ep <font color="#7CFC00">tr <font color="#00FFFF">ip   01:16, 30 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Just a little confused--I only see two times that your userpage has ever been vandalised, both from the same IP address, and they were within two minutes of each other over two weeks ago. Does semi-prot automatically extend to subpages, and the vandalism occurred on one of those, perhaps? Jouster  (  whisper  ) 14:25, 30 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Not that I'm answering for xaosflux or anything, I just want to get rid of any confusion, but (1) semi-protection does not extend to subpages without the "cascading" option enabled, and that option is never used with semi-prot. (2) If the vandalism appeared on one of my subpages, then it would show up on a diff in that subpage's history, not my userpage's history.  <font family="Trebuchet MS" color="#D2691E" size="2">~ <font face="Vivaldi" size="3"><font color="#FF0000">St <font color="#FFD700">ep <font color="#7CFC00">tr <font color="#00FFFF">ip   02:02, 31 March 2007 (UTC)


 * This protection is not cascading. This protection may not be strictly according to the protection policy but we are generally more lenient in the User: space. If you would like to contest it as a policy breach I will remove it, and Steptrip can relist on WP:RFPP if they desire. As this is only sprotection it should not prevent you from editing that page, do you know of an issue regarding an anon that wanted to make a good faith edit to the page but was not able to? FWIW, I'm pretty much opposed to indefinite rotection of pretty much anything, but have seen good editors get frustrated and leave due to vandalism. Thanks, — xaosflux  <sup style="color:#00FF00;">Talk  02:08, 31 March 2007 (UTC)


 * I am, in general, against any protection not strictly justified by the circumstances and policy. As the original request for protection appears to be backed up by a factual error (that more than one incident of vandalism occurred, separated by "three days"), I don't feel (semi-)protection is valid here.  Replying here is fine, I've added you to my watchlist.  Jouster  (  whisper  ) 20:22, 31 March 2007 (UTC)


 * As I said earlier if contested I'd expire that protection, and I have. Steptrip, if you feel you need your page protected again, please see WP:RFPP.  If you are having issues with vandals on your page you can list them on WP:AIV where blocking may be more approriate.  Thank you, —  xaosflux  <sup style="color:#00FF00;">Talk  22:12, 31 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Okay, hopefully I won't have to make one of those requests at WP:RFPP (it would mean that my page had been vandalized ;P ) <font family="Trebuchet MS" color="#D2691E" size="2">~ <font face="Vivaldi" size="3"><font color="#FF0000">St <font color="#FFD700">ep <font color="#7CFC00">tr <font color="#00FFFF">ip   00:09, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

About your recent protection of Fruits Basket:
While I, and I'm sure several other editors, do appreciate you protecting Fruits Basket, I think a full-protect might be a bit severe. It was only one new user, who's account isn't even a day old yet, and a few IPs causing any recent trouble on the page. A semi-protect might be a bit more appropriate. Thank you for your time, and happy editing! // Decaimiento  Poético  01:04, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Oh, if it's only for three days then I have no problem with it. The edits were simple vandalism (combining elements from Fruits Basket and another series, Rurouni Kenshin), but you can just leave it fully protected. Well, thanks again! // Decaimiento  Poético  01:21, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Sig cat
It's still April Fool's for another 5:27 here, but fine, whatever. --tjstrf talk 01:34, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Autosodomy and JUPE
Thanks for closing the Autosodomy AfD. I noticed that you used a strange term "JUPE'd", and linked to something called WP:JUPE which redirects to Protected titles. What does that mean? Is it some kind of abbreviation? --Tony Sidaway 05:21, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

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RFCN
I don't know if I would have referred any of those names to RFCN, if they weren't obvious they can be declined by WP:AIV. RFCN is an entirely different process and I don't know if I want my name on those nominations. If you want to nominate them yourself, go ahead. RJASE1 Talk  04:10, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

3RR
Please refrain from undoing other people's edits repeatedly. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions in a content dispute within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. Rather than reverting, discuss disputed changes on the talk page. The revision you want is not going to be implemented by edit warring. Thank you. — xaosflux  <sup style="color:#00FF00;">Talk  04:29, 7 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Huh? I reverted once, discussed the issue on the talk page, and edited the message in an attempt to compromise.  SlimVirgin, conversely, reverted three times without any compromise attempt.  —David Levy 05:12, 7 April 2007 (UTC)


 * My apologies, I misread your difs. — xaosflux  <sup style="color:#00FF00;">Talk  05:20, 7 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Okay, thanks for the explanation. :-)  —David Levy 05:23, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

Rollback Request
are you an admin? if thena can you help me with the accidentally ainvcations that i badly formatted?? Smith Jones 02:01, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Done, all these were rolled back, feel free to resend, but check the orignial carefully first. Also, please make sure these are for people who would be interested due to a related proejct, widespread canvassing is not normally welcomed.  Thank you, —  xaosflux  <sup style="color:#00FF00;">Talk  14:44, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

RE: Automated Edits?
Are you running a script or bot with this account? I've noticed a high rate of user_talk:'s regarding images. The content of these is not in question, simply the edit rate. I could have just caught you at a fast peak, but if you are running this automarically then you should be running this from a bot account to avoid flooding recent changes. Thanks, — xaosflux  <sup style="color:#00FF00;">Talk  14:49, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
 * No bot work here. I usually open various images in various tabs, and process them in a row. Also, I use Howcheng's scripts, but no tagging is done without my analysis. --Abu badali (talk) 15:24, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

Smith Jones
Smith Jones is a vandal. He entertains himself by introducing subtle vandalism like the "formating error" of the Homeopathy wikiproject banner. Just thought I'd give you a heads up. NeoFreak 04:45, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

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WP:RFA
Replied to your question. Bushcarrot ( Talk·Guestbook ) 01:48, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Bots/Requests for approval/VshBot
Might I ask you to look at and perhaps initiate some movement on Bots/Requests for approval/VshBot? Given that myself, Martin and Mets have all had disagreements with this chap now I think it would be better for a fresh person to deal with it. Ought to be a routine request, but apparently the bot has an extremely large signature and a hugely fast edit rate was requested. --kingboyk 14:04, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

More going on?
Hello. I saw that you took care of Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Pretty Ricky aint breakin up yall! yay!! Its ya gurl Tay!..=). May I suggest that you take a look at the interactions between User:Dude45 and User:Dont mess wit me(Tay)?  I can't tell if one user is harassing another, or if these are 2 "friends" who are social networking.  I appreciate your time on this.  If you want any diffs, just let me know here. --After Midnight 0001 04:07, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Template:Tprotected
Hi, you reverted my edit to Template:Tprotected with the comment "rv; form over function, this keeps it simple". I don't see how your comment applies, or how the template is necessary at all. Its design and naming is inconsistent with the current set of protection templates, and its purpose is already covered by those templates – indeed, better covered, as different templates are available for the reason for protection.

As I said in the summary of my edit, simply announcing that the page is "temporarily protected" without saying for how long is completely useless – if a reader or newcomer who doesn't know where to find the protection log comes across it, it tells them nothing, and if an experienced user comes across it, they have to check the log anyway to find when the expiry time is, so it tells them no more than a simple "this page is protected" message does. If one is going to specify that the protection expires, one must say when, and the <tt>expiry</tt> parameter of all the templates starting with <tt>pp-</tt> can do that. I redirected it to <tt></tt> because the original template failed to specify a reason for protection; use of one of the more specific ones such as <tt></tt>, together with an expiry parameter if necessary, is preferable.

In an ideal world, of course, all this notification would be handled by the interface. There would be a padlock icon in the corner of a protected page, and when clicking the "view source" button the message at the top of the screen would correctly distinguish full and semi-protection and include the comment from the protection log, similar to how the block message includes the block reason. Unfortunately, we have to live with a development team that doesn't, and having one standardized system of protection templates, together with a well-maintained system of categories, is the only way we can hope to keep track of page protection. (Do you really want to go back to the days where we had enormous 500Kb project pages that were unreadable and out of date anyway? Thought not) – Gurch 10:19, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Hi
Hi. How are you? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.194.215.154 (talk • contribs)
 * replied on your talk — xaosflux  <sup style="color:#00FF00;">Talk  01:19, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Prolonged absence of Bot owner
Hi, I seem to remember that Bot policy requires Bots to have an owner active on Wikipedia- how long does an owner have to be away for this to become an issue? Hagerman has now not edited since Feb 6. HagermanBot generates a lot of questions from people who don't understand how it functions. Also, a number of requests for possible improvements to the Bot's operation have gone unanswered over the last couple of months. It's a useful Bot and is functioning as expected but it is a concern that there is no one to address issues with it. Just wanted your thoughts on the matter. Cheers, WjBscribe 14:01, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

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MfD Inappropiate Closes
Good morning (GMT time); please accept my humblest apologies for my actions above - this was my first night closing delete MfDs, and whilst it felt good at the time, non-compliance with DelPol is unacceptable and I fully resepct you and Daniel's reverts to my inexperienced mistakes ;) out of curiosity, would you be able to point me in the direction of a Deletion Debate that often contains lots on unambigous "Keep" closes?

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Parent cats
Category:Wikipedian programmers is to be depopulated due to WP:UCFD.

Besides that, I've been (slowly) working on clarifying the user categories. It seems that overzealous contributers had added the parent cats to the babel userboxes. So for example, a single userbox would include a user in Category:User en and Category:User en-1, or including a user in Category:Wikipedians in the United States and in an individual state category. And further those userboxes have been subst: to user pages, and a myriad of userfied versions, and so on. I've been trying to reduce edit count by removing the parent cats in a single edit, if possible. At this point though, the task seems so large, that I'm starting to think I need to find a bot owner to help with this. The trouble is that it would require identifying that the userbox page had both the parent cat and the sub cat. Any suggestions would be welcome : ) - jc37 11:45, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

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Image:Pete.gif Some user who appears to not be active anymore uploaded an image that appears very illrelevent, and has replaced my image. I need this picture removed, because the image I uploaded first I was currently using. THROUGH FIRE, JUSTICE IS SERVED! 03:35, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

oh ok. its just that when I reverted it, the other pic didnt come up, so I thought there was something wrong with my computer. THROUGH FIRE, JUSTICE IS SERVED! 13:07, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Bots/Requests for approval/VVVBot
Can you approve my bot? I have done some trial runs on this week, and as it seems to me, they was succesful (you can check). - VasilievVV 15:51, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
 * You just left me a bot approval message which appears to be intended for VasilievVV. I'll leave it to you to contact him. - Fayenatic london (talk) 07:09, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

Can you say to some of bureaucrats to flag my bot? - VasilievVV 20:17, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

Protection of 420 (cannabis culture)
May I ask why you protected this article? HighInBC(Need help? Ask me) 04:31, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
 * replied on your talk. — xaosflux  <sup style="color:#00FF00;">Talk  04:36, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

Cydebot Block
Moved to centralized discussion at Bot_owners%27_noticeboard. — xaosflux  <sup style="color:#00FF00;">Talk  05:23, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

I can try
I will try, though I think its just going to have to wait on the operator. —— Eagle 101  Need help? 06:04, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks, — xaosflux  <sup style="color:#00FF00;">Talk  06:05, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Might it be worth a note at WP:BN about the Cydebot issues as well? If the crats are unwilling to flag (or would deflag) bots going above a certain speed, the discussion is moot anyway... WjBscribe 07:21, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I didn't mean that their input was needed into the block itself but as Greg and Kelly seem now to be advocating an abandonment of most of Bot policy and questioning the need for BAG I was wondering if you thought crat imput might help. I've mentioned it to Nichalp now anyway so there's prob no need for a post on the noticeboard... WjBscribe 07:30, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

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Moved to WP:BOWN
 * Lets be clear, I think bot policy is important and needed. But what we do not need are meat-bots enforcing the bot policy. If the BAG is going to disrupt harmless activities because they run at 50e/min vs 15e/min, without any clear technical or editorial reason beyond "we said not to" then I think it doesn't deserve to exist and it should be replaced with something more competent and less dysfunctional. And there really is no technical reason the editing can't run at that rate.... Most tasks shouldn't run at that rate for editorial reasons and sometimes technical ones, but most tasks will not need to touch anywhere near this number of pages. Most tasks are also not making an utterly trivial change to image pages which is almost impossible to do incorrectly. --Gmaxwell 17:41, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
 * See my response on:WP:BOWN (ultra short summary: Technical issue:log flooding; blocking I would have blocked this even if I wasn't on WP:BAG for the same reason). — xaosflux  <sup style="color:#00FF00;">Talk  17:55, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
 * What log flooding? It is bot-flagged. And why would you think that something showing up as a continuous drone for a week is better than it showing up more frequently for a day? So if I push a temporary change to mediawiki to suppress the creation of RC entries in the image namespace for cydebot, you will have no more objections? --Gmaxwell 18:02, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
 * To avoid a forest fire I've moved this to WP:BOWN and replied there. Thank you, —  xaosflux  <sup style="color:#00FF00;">Talk  19:24, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
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Re: Post-Judgmentism
You removed my speedy delete tag from this article, and I can only assume you did not read it. This is not an encyclopedia article, it is a ridiculous story about an "art movement" that does not exist, and has never existed. The name of this so-called movement comes from a Papal Encyclical that is made up, and it refers to articles appearing in the May 2012 issue of a Mexican art magazine that is also made up. Nothing in the article is true, and taken together it is most certainly nonsense. If you wouldn't mind, please take another look. ---Charles 14:17, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

You're right, the prod should do it. No need to relist for CSD. Thanks. ---Charles 14:26, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Ok... well, I guess somebody speedied it, 'cause it's gone. In any case, it shan't be missed. ---Charles 21:00, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

TfD nomination of Template:Library of Congress
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User:Xaosflux/JUPE
Hi, is there a reason for this page to still be protected? The page reads:


 * The following pages have been juped, preventing their creation. This list should be kept short.

so I assume this is left over from some early experiment with protected titles or something. However, it then only transcludes your sandbox, which is just full of junk and Strong Bad pictures and hence has no need to be protected – especially not from creation, since it already exists.

Unless there's a good reason why the protection is still necessary, I'd appreciate it if you could unprotect the page. Thanks – Gurch 20:22, 3 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Yep, it was an old test, I removed protection. — xaosflux  <sup style="color:#00FF00;">Talk  20:25, 3 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks. Just trying to keep on top of what we have protected, there's a lot of 'dead' stuff around – Gurch 20:30, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

"Heaven of Transnistria"


Hi Xaosflux, I must admit I'm rather disappointed at the way you closed this MfD. Just wanted to check with you whether we should first discuss this among ourselves or whether I ought to take it to DRV. "No consensus"? We had two clearly reasoned deletes, one keep from the creator, another keep without any reasoning at all (hence discardable) from the co-author, and an interesting "neutral" basically saying that the page was terrible but useful for exposing the POV-pushing by its authors. My challenge still stands: Exactly what in this page does anybody think has a potential to become a decent article? And if it's just bits and pieces that are useable, why can't the author just store those offline, why do we have to tolerate this POV screed surrounding them? I still believe this page blatantly violates WP:USER. This keep decision is setting a very bad precedent about tolerating single-purpose POV warriors and propagandists on Wikipedia. I mean, surely you must agree that the page is terrible? Yeah, I know, it's user space, but we should get it clarified that POV pushers can't have it both ways: Either you have a true userspace page, in which case it may include some POV but is bound to WP:USER (no extensive commentary on non-Wikipedia matters), or you have an article-related sandbox/draft, in which case you are bound to observe the same NPOV and NOR principles as in article space. --Fut.Perf. ☼ 06:29, 4 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks for reopening it, much appreciated. Seems like a sensible decision to me. Fut.Perf. ☼ 12:18, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I wanted to ask why you relisted the MFD for my sandbox, but now I see the reason. According evidence shown above, Future Perfect at Sunrise already ate his hat, I think he is taking my sandbox too personally. Am I a single-purpose POV warrior and propagandist? Will be tolerated persons like me in Wikipedia? This is a problem to be solved by arbitration comitee, where a case with my involvement is opened. FPS spoke in this case, we should wait the decision of the arbitration comitee, not forcing a "consensus" against me which will be presented afterwards in the arbitration case. For the record: I do not agree that the page is terrible, I've used parts of it (yes, I can store some parts offline, but I prefer to keep data in a Wikipedia format)--MariusM 16:09, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

Need Page Deleted
This article List of Tekken characters was decided to be deleted. That was a year ago. I'm trying to nominate for delteion, but since it was decided to be deleted, I'm confused what to do, and wondering why is it not deleted yet.. THROUGH FIRE, JUSTICE IS SERVED! 17:02, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

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Captain Waters...
Just look at my admin log to see what I've been doing for the last half hour... want to lend a hand? :-) Fut.Perf. ☼ 00:02, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

Recovering Contagious Tales files
Dearest xaosflux:

i would love to get back all the pages which were removed from the Contagious Tales project. Thanks for your willingness to provide these.

thx

paxus

Following a deletion discussion at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Paxuscalta/ContagiousTales, your sub page has been deleted. If you need the text of this page to transwiki this somewhere else feel free to contact me or any other admin (e.g. at WP:AN). Thank you, — xaosflux Talk 15:37, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

MediaWiki:Uploadtext/fobuild
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temporary transwiki
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Following a deletion discussion at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Paxuscalta/ContagiousTales, your sub page has been deleted. If you need the text of this page to transwiki this somewhere else feel free to contact me or any other admin (e.g. at WP:AN). Thank you, — xaosflux Talk 15:37, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

Where would you like these recovered too (along with their contributors) and for how long will it take you to transwiki them? — xaosflux Talk 00:33, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

it would be great if you could just put them back under /User:Paxuscalta/ContagiousTales i can copy them down inside a week from when you repost.

thx for your help and the significant amount of work you clearly do on this project.

paxus in nyc Paxuscalta 12:29, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

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Userboxes
Please replace with  so we can delete it!!

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still hoping for a temporary transwiki for Contagious Tales project
i am repeating this msg

WP:MFD

Following a deletion discussion at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Paxuscalta/ContagiousTales, your sub page has been deleted. If you need the text of this page to transwiki this somewhere else feel free to contact me or any other admin (e.g. at WP:AN). Thank you, — xaosflux Talk 15:37, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

Where would you like these recovered too (along with their contributors) and for how long will it take you to transwiki them? — xaosflux Talk 00:33, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

it would be great if you could just put them back under /User:Paxuscalta/ContagiousTales i can copy them down inside a week from when you repost.

thx for your help and the significant amount of work you clearly do on this project.

Paxuscalta 11:50, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

WP:MFD
Following a deletion discussion at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Paxuscalta/ContagiousTales, your sub page has been deleted. If you need the text of this page to transwiki this somewhere else feel free to contact me or any other admin (e.g. at WP:AN). Thank you, — xaosflux  <sup style="color:#00FF00;">Talk  15:37, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Where would you like these recovered too (along with their contributors) and for how long will it take you to transwiki them? — xaosflux  <sup style="color:#00FF00;">Talk  00:33, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
 * This had not been completed because I was awaiting your response to this above, User:Paxuscalta/ContagiousTales has been temporarily restored for you. — xaosflux  <sup style="color:#00FF00;">Talk  03:38, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

Thank you. these copies are now complete and you can remove the page again. Paxuscalta 10:49, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

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Board Candidacy
Hi! I'm leaving you this note because we've had extensive and/or productive interaction over the course of my time on this Wiki. I (yep, little ol' Jouster!) am running for election to the Wikimedia Board of Trustees. I would greatly appreciate it if you would please take a look at my submission of candidacy, and consider endorsing me, as that is a requirement for me to stand for election.

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