User talk:Xeno/Archive 5

Card fan?
Me too! But what was up with Empire? It's the only one of his books I actually failed to make it through. Also, what are your thougts on this comic?? delldot on a public computer  talk  23:22, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I'll have to admit, I've not (yet) ventured outside the Enderverse. Funny comic. It's been so long, I can't remember which one is my favorite after the original. Probably Speaker. cheers =) xenocidic ( talk ¿ review ) 23:27, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Go for The Worthing Saga on your next venture out of the Enderverse! It's my favorite :) Peace,   delldot on a public computer   talk  00:44, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
 * As a fellow Card fan, I'm curious as to your thoughts about the potential for my username to be divisive, either in the context of it being a derivative of the word xenocide, or in the context of it being derived from a word coined by someone with such controversial personal views. By the way, I haven't picked up The Worthing Saga yet, but it's on my list. As to why Empire is so different than his other work - probably because it's based on a an upcoming video game, thus wasn't entirely his own creation. xenocidic ( talk ¿ listen ) 03:44, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Hm, it never would have occurred to me that your name was divisive. My instinct would be to totally not worry about it unless someone says something, and probably not even then :P I mean, it's great to not want to upset people, but at some point stuff is people's own problem, don't you think? Of course, this thinking is coming from a person whose userpage is a giant rainbow, so do with it what you want. :P  You could always put a disclaimer on your user page or something if you're worried about it though.  Anyway, yeah, I'm desperately hoping Empire was ghostwritten or something.  Still, it wouldn't be enough of an excuse, because he still allowed his name to be put on it...  :P  delldot on a public computer   talk  08:37, 2 June 2008 (UTC)


 * hey delldot, your further input on this issue is requested here: User_talk:Xenocidic/RFA (even if you just want to echo what you've written above). cheers, xenocidic (talk) 03:56, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks again for your input and for your offer to (potentially not) help ;> P.S. You shouldn't spend so much time on public computers - you could catch a disease or something. =) xenocidic (talk) 05:01, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I know it, I gotta work on those slutty editing habits of mine :P delldot on a public computer   talk  05:15, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

StatusBot
The son of a bitch Bot is trying to piss me off again. :-/ I put the autocat=no thing in the template, but he still won't stop. Could you take a look at it for me? You're the status template whiz after all.-- Koji †  Dude  (C) 01:08, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
 * yar gotta do it in both places ;>. xenocidic (talk) 01:33, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
 * OH, okay, thanks for that! I feel like that should have been more obvious... that bot is clever... well, one thing that is obvious, I'd make a crappy CSI. :-) Thanks again.-- Koji †  Dude  (C) 01:36, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
 * no worries. sometimes the solution is so simple we don't see it staring us in the face. ;p xenocidic (talk) 01:53, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Child
You have obviously discovered that I am young. I use my real name everywhere, but yes, i'll stop. StewieGriffin!  &bull; Talk 14:50, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Thank you. It's not just the fact that you are young, using one's real name on the internet is unwise for a number of reasons. Looking forward to hearing more Radio WP episodes, xenocidic (talk) 14:54, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah. Have you subscribed? StewieGriffin!  &bull; Talk 14:56, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes. I'll probably try and help out as well with some contributions (whether be it content suggestions or submitting an "ogg" file, if I can figure out how to), when I get some more time. xenocidic (talk) 15:00, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Radio Wikipedia
This is my radio show, however, I am looking for 10 second sound files, commenting on Wikipedia. If you could get me one done in the next 10 mins (little time, i know!), I can have it in today's broadcast. StewieGriffin!  &bull; Talk 15:04, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I've got a short clip (ad for WP VG) but still trying to encode it to .ogg. Might not have it in for your press deadline =). xenocidic (talk) 15:20, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
 * It doesn't matter what format. It could even be a video on youtube. Anything, but quick. I want to broadcast ASAP. StewieGriffin!  &bull; Talk 15:21, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Here you go Image:RADWPVGAD.ogg. Thanks! xenocidic (talk) 15:32, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

RWP: Issue 4
There you go... It's got your comment in.
 * Great show, might I suggest starting to report how many new articles since the last broadcast, rather than how many articles? (i.e. "Since last broadcast, over 7500 new articles have been added to Wikipedia's nearly 2.4 million articles.) xenocidic (talk) 16:06, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Extended Show
I am thinking of an extended show. Would you be interested in a minute slot to talk about Wikipedia (not news; as that's my job)? StewieGriffin!  &bull; Talk 16:09, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Hrm, if I can figure out what to talk about, I'll try to have something to you by the end of day, but I might not come up with anything particularly interesting. =) xenocidic (talk) 16:10, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Talk about a WikiProject, news on other projects and languages etc... I don't need anything until 5PM tomorrow. StewieGriffin!  &bull; Talk 16:14, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
 * What about if I gave an analysis of the FritzpollBot discusion/debate? P.S. It might be a good idea if you refactored everything from your talk page about Radio Wikipedia over to WT:RADWP, or at the very least start discussing it there, for centralization purposes. xenocidic (talk) 16:18, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah. I don't like the idea. If you prepare a maximum of 1 minute discussion by 5PM, it'll get in tomorrow's show. StewieGriffin!  &bull; Talk 16:34, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I mean about FritzpollBot, not the idea of you broadcasting on my radio show. StewieGriffin!  &bull; Talk 17:03, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Yep, don't worry - I figured that's what you meant =). xenocidic (talk) 17:31, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Userbox alignment
Copied from my talk page for reference: (Re: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Mets501&curid=3957872&diff=216504948&oldid=216283261) That one you were asking Mets about is taller than the rest, is this any better? You could consider tweaking the userbox heights directly, but this may affect other users. If you display userboxen in a vertical format, perhaps utilizing userboxtop/userboxbottom, then the height will not be an issue. xenocidic ( talk ¿ listen ) 23:28, 1 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Yes, that's much better. Thanks!!  I still have one alignment issue (a seemingly empty row for no apparent reason, right in the middle of my Politics/Hobbies section); would you mind taking a look at it (at your convenience, of course) to see what I need to do?  I'm just now working out how to do this sort of thing and it's all a learning experience.  I'd really, really appreciate the help. -- edi (talk) 23:39, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm not seeing any empty rows there in either Firefox or IE. Yes the met-the-moonwalker is on it's own row, bu that's about it. What browser are you using? xenocidic ( talk ¿ listen ) 23:44, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm in IE6, but I've been thinking about it and I think it may actually be another vertical alignment thing.  was displaying much like the West Virginia one that you fixed with "valign".  I fixed the Centrism one myself the same way, and that's when the dead space showed up immediately below it, and I also notice now that there's a little extra space below the WV one.  So I'm guessing the valign has very likely created the other problem.  The question is: Is it fixable? -- edi (talk) 23:56, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Any better now? I added valign to every row of that table. Unfortunately, it can't span across the entire table for some reason. The problem didn't manifest in IE7, so you might consider upgrading your browser, or switching to a much better one ;>. xenocidic ( talk ¿ listen ) 23:59, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
 * It's still the same, but it's cool, no big deal. I really appreciate the work you've put into it; I couldn't have asked for a nicer, more helpful response.  I also appreciate the nudge toward Firefox.  :)  I agree, actually; I've just been too lazy to bother.  Soon, maybe.  In the meantime, thanks again for all your help.  You rock. -- edi (talk) 00:13, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

&larr; No problem =) I used to be a fairly staunch advocate of not using Firefox either, but once you get used to it, it's really hard to go back to IE. P.S. I think I found the problem, you had an extraneous row statement here. Better now? xenocidic ( talk ¿ listen ) 00:16, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Just so you know... I downloaded Firefox out of curiosity and you're right; it looks great there. No telling what the root of the problem is in IE, but I'm not going to worry about it.  Thanks again. :) -- edi (talk) 01:02, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
 * The problem was an extra row..(see my comment above). I guess IE6 rendered this, while Firefox and IE7 ignored it. But you'll enjoy using Firefox all the same =) xenocidic ( talk ¿ listen ) 01:12, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Ahem
Now look at what you've done. You didn't close the message box right! You messed up my whole dramatic response.-- Koji †  Dude  (C) 03:06, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
 * can I get that in the form of a template? ;> (fixed) xenocidic ( talk ¿ listen ) 03:13, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks
I dunno if I really deserve a barnstar just for trying to follow policies, but yes, it would have been easier to blow past that questionable bit without stopping, so thanks for recognizing my effort. Jclemens (talk) 03:38, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
 * ...which is probably what most users would have done. In cases like this, (imo) it's always best to seek a second opinion before brushing it off as simple vandalism. cheers, xenocidic ( talk ¿ listen ) 03:41, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

XBL
Hey, my name on XBL is chrislk05. I should have added you last night. Yea, you can copy my userpage design. I however did not design it, it was designed by User:Phaedriel. I am sure she would not have a problem with that at all (she has been gone for quite some time now on an extended wiki break. I am sure much of the community hopes she returns). Chris lk02  Chris Kreider 13:41, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks Chris, just wanted to see if you were another person who added me right around when we had the initial convo. I'll drop a note on Phaedriel's page as well. xenocidic ( talk ¿ listen ) 13:46, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Phaedriel has not edited in many many months so I would not expect a response. Chris  lk02  Chris Kreider 13:48, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
 * understandable, I just meant a friendly note thanking her and hoping she comes back one day. I've heard good things about her. xenocidic ( talk ¿ listen ) 13:49, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Thats a good idea. I am sure many of us hopes she comes back.  I have never worked with another editor who had her ablities to diffuse explosive situations.   Chris  lk02  Chris Kreider 13:52, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

MZMcBride thread
When it was being discussed in the IRC chan, the question was asked if it was at ANI and the answer was not yet. No one brought the existing thread to my attention and I've not been on ANI in a few, so I was not aware of its existence (the current thread, that is). I attempted to archive the thread I started, as there was already the ongoing thread regarding the block, that Pilotguy failed to mention he'd posted to, but I ECed four times, so I just let it go. :p  Lara  ❤  Love  03:07, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Gotcha. I'm not up to speed on this IRC stuff. Anyways, I think the new heading is useful anyways, but I moved it inline with the previous discussion per WP:BB. xenocidic ( talk ¿ listen ) 03:10, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Status
Is the reason my staus is not working due to the shutdown of soxbot V ? Prom3th3an (talk) 13:43, 3 June 2008 (UTC) My reply here.

Qui/Statustop template
Thanks for the heads-up re SoxBot. I have installed Qui however I keep getting a spurious error ''We encountered an unknown status. Please blank your Special:MyPage:/Status page.'' which pops up every time I go to a new page even though User:Nancy/Status is empty. Any ideas? nancy (talk) 14:22, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Hrm, I'm not quite sure. That status page should hold your status, I updated it back to "Online"... Problems regarding Qui should be directed to TheDJ, as I'm not sure how it works. Just the template. If you hover over the small icon in the top right you will see the updating stuff. What browser are you using? I think you need to use one of the supported browsers, that could be the problem. xenocidic ( talk ¿ listen ) 15:13, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Still same error - thanks so much for trying though. There is somethingproperly wrong as I donlt even get the icon. You mentioned browsers and I am wondering if the fact that I am using a beta version of Firefox v3 might have something to do with it....... hmmmn, I'll be able to test that one from home this evening on V2. Thanks again. nancy  (talk) 15:20, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
 * It's most likely the browser issue then. No problem! Best regards, xenocidic ( talk ¿ listen ) 15:23, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Might well be a FF v3 issue. I'll download that and will do some testing. --TheDJ (talk • contribs) 19:55, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Did you get it sorted? xenocidic ( talk ¿ listen ) 19:42, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes - it was a Firebox v3 beta problem - at home with V2 it works fine and dandy. Thanks again for pitching in. nancy  (talk) 21:02, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Good stuff. he said he was going to take a look at v3 and see why it wasn't behaving. xenocidic ( talk ¿ listen ) 21:17, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Infobox
do you know how to change the color of an infobox, or do you know someone who can?  Mr. Green  Hit Me Up  Userboxes  15:29, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
 * As far as I can see, there's no parameter to change the background colour. You could consider substing the infobox user into a subpage of your userpage and tweaking it directly (I showed you above how to change the background of a table, and the infobox uses tables), but I've also dropped a request for this paramater here. xenocidic ( talk ¿ listen ) 15:33, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks.  Mr. Green  Hit Me Up  Userboxes  16:15, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
 * No problem. xenocidic ( talk ¿ listen ) 16:16, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

RADWP: Urgent
I cannot record on Radio Wikipedia today. Could you do the 3 min show, if you have time, please? StewieGriffin!  &bull; Talk 16:00, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately UTC-wise I won't be home until "tomorrow" so we might miss today. It may be a good idea to modify the shows format to "semi-weekly" or something along those lines. xenocidic ( talk ¿ listen ) 16:03, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
 * OK, i'll put a note on the main page. StewieGriffin!  &bull; Talk 16:04, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Qui design
BTW. since you are so enthusiastic, if you have some design ideas about what would make Qui look better and more usable, I more than welcome them. --TheDJ (talk • contribs) 19:52, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
 * sure thing I will let you know if I think of anything. right now it looks pretty good to me... if the offline-on-window-close isn't possible, perhaps some way to "auto-online"-on-window open? xenocidic ( talk ¿ listen ) 19:54, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
 * And you haven't even added any QuiFriends yet. :D In my personal opinion, the friends part of the system is much cooler than the statusswitcher part :D --TheDJ (talk • contribs) 19:57, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Right, I haven't started in with the friends yet... I'm sure it will prove useful though. xenocidic ( talk ¿ listen ) 19:59, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Sys Dev overridding BAG
(Re ) I guess so. Sure looks like it, anyway. Useight (talk) 22:16, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

You are now an administrator


Congratulations, I have just closed your RfA as successful and made you an administrator. Take a look at the administrators' how-to guide and the administrators' reading list if you haven't read those already. Also, the practice exercises at the new admin school may be useful. If you have any questions, get in touch on my talk page. WjBscribe 01:01, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Congrats! Good luck with the mop! :D Malinaccier (talk) 01:02, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Hearty congratulations on your new tools. Please let me know if I can ever help you in any way. --John (talk) 01:03, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
 * And congrats on your approval as well! — Huntster (t • @ • c) 01:04, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
 * (ec x2)Congratulations!!!!! Hope you enjoy the tools... (like you won't) Thingg &#8853; &#8855;  01:04, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Thank you all. Can someone direct me to the "delete main page" button? ;> xenocidic ( talk ¿ listen ) 01:08, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Right here. Thingg &#8853; &#8855;  01:10, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Congrats on the admin tools!!! Cheers, Raz<b style="color:#6cc">or</b><b style="color:#6c9">fl</b><b style="color:#6c6">am</b><b style="color:#6c3">e</b> 01:48, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Hey, look! I buried my congrats in the garden that be your talk page! Well, congrats. I'm sure you'll hate with passion love being an admin. weburiedoursecretsinthegarden 22:05, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Good luck as an admin! You stole my header! ;) Rudget   (Help?) 12:28, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Congrats!
I don't know you, but congrats on your new adminship! --Justpassin (talk) 01:09, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
 * As the first to support your RFA, I'm the first to congratulate you on passing. Wait, no. Not even close. Useight (talk) 01:15, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Your In-depth analysis
You've got a slight typing error in this section, where you have "Wisdom89 was an early was an early strong supporter". Useight (talk) 02:32, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for pointing that out! xenocidic (talk) 02:37, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Between the possibly divisive connotations of xenocidic vs. Xeno, I think I'd go with your current name. Just my opinion though. Congrats btw. dorftrottel (talk) 04:01, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Heh
Lol at your summary: "While Naerii was initially unconvinced, they later deleted the entire oppose discussion and switched to support, citing a popular Eminem song in the edit summary as the justification for this change." - it makes me sound so crazy when written formally like that! I just realised that my concerns were kind of petty, and seeing as I supported Evula in her recent RFB even after seeing her mention somewhere that she hasn't written much in the articlespace I figured it would be hypocritical not to support you for admin. It's nice that you're taking opposes into account rather than taking a stance of "well I've passed now, I can forget all that crap", though. My exams are over soon (in 6 hours as a matter of fact :o) so if you need any help writing articles over the summer I'd be glad to assist (personally I'm going to be writing some boring history stuffs). Improving an article to GA or FA can be pretty daunting on your own, so I'd be happy to help out if you like :)

And the edit summary was just me pissing about I guess; I rarely if ever use edit summaries and when I do remember I can never think of anything to say, so sometimes I just quote whatever I happen to be listening to at the time (how embarassing to admit that I listen to Eminem :. Congrats on passing your RfA.  naerii -  talk  04:15, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Not embarrassing at all - Eminem rocks! or raps... or something... Sorry, I didn't meant to make you out to seem crazy, I wrote it that way for comedic effect. =) (I can change it if you want) I must admit I did have a chuckle when I read it. at first I was like... wtf? until I realized where it was from. Still, I was rather confused - thanks for clearing that up for me. and I might take you up on that offer, though, my area of expertise... well,... it's been getting some scorn from the GA/FA review projects recently. as for addressing the opposes, I feel that they are the most important part of the RFA, they really need to be taken into account and you need to look at how you can improve for the betterment of the encyclopedia as a whole. anyways, thanks again. xenocidic (talk) 04:22, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Lmao it's fine, it cracked me up :P I've seen some grumbling about the video game wikiproject in FAC recently but I wouldn't take it to heart if I were you; most of the articles I write are about albums and that area is looked down on just as much as video games are and to be honest I give about this <-> much of a shit ;) So yeah just let me know if you want any assistance with anything (wikis are all about collaboration after all) - I'm not the world's best writer but I enjoy expanding articles (people will just have to deal with my amateur prose - you know it's really ironic since I got 94% in my English Literature A Level).  naerii -  talk  04:43, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Re: Your RFA
Hey Xenocidic, I hope you weren't offended/put off by my switch (seemingly at the last minute) to a weak oppose. Nothing personal of course. I do think you're a strong contributor/editor, but after revisiting the discussion, the CSD tagging took me somewhat aback. I swayed back and forth about it for a while before changing my !vote. I think you'll make a good admin though, just as long as you don't bite the newbies by tagging an A7 as an attack page : )  Wisdom89  ( T |undefined /  C ) 04:37, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Offended - not at all - I've come to respect your contributions to the RFA process and I know you wouldn't have done that without deep deliberation. No hard feelings whatsoever. Truthfully, I didn't expect to be at RFA so soon, I really did want some coaching on the CSD stuff - but no matter. I'll have to learn on the job =) xenocidic (talk) 04:42, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

RFA
Congrats on your RFA, When you find your feet let me know as 2 coaches are better than one and i'd be honoured to have you aboard once more. I have only known you for a short time, but your kindness, approachability, knowlege and did I mention kindness? makes me proud to be a Wikipedian and makes you one of the best new admins ever :)  « l | Ψrom3th3ăn ™ | l »  12:25, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

More Congrats
Congratulations on getting the mop. Now it's time to see if what they say is true: "be careful what you wish for, for you will surely get it..." I was especially interested because your RfA was the first one for an editor that I actually knew before seeing the RfA. Wikipedia needs more like you - see you around! Frank |  talk  11:40, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Great edit summary
here. Took me a moment to get it and realise I still had the test account on my automatic watchlist -- but that was great. Thanks for the morning laugh and congrats. TravellingCarithe Busy Bee 13:30, 4 June 2008 (UTC)


 * LOL, (In Soviet Russia, username blocks YOU!) is a close second, but the mathematical one is still my favorite. Morning laughs are always a good thing. TravellingCarithe Busy Bee 13:47, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Congrats
Congrats on your successful RFA! If you need anything or have any questions or want a 2nd opinion, feel free to drop me a line any time!. Chris lk02  Chris Kreider 16:00, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Congratulations on your RfA!!!!!!
Congrats!!!!I new you would pass!!!! <div style="border-style:solid; border-color:blue; background-color:AliceBlue; border-width:1px; text-align:left; padding:8px;" class="plainlinks">

 Mr. Green  Hit Me Up  Userboxes  has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling at someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Cheers, and happy editing! Smile at others by adding {{subst:Smile}} to their talk page with a friendly message. Good Luck!!!! Mr. Green  Hit Me Up  Userboxes  16:30, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Re:
Yeah, well, there's only like one person on Wikipedia who I think possibly deserves to be an admin more than you and now you are one. Also, great idea with RfA analysis page. Maybe I'll get a chance sometime to steal copy that idea sometime. As for your other idea, I dunno man. I still make mistakes with CSD tagging (though this one was a result of misunderstanding how Twinkle works) and that definitely would not help me very much, especially considering my lack of CSD participation was a major factor in the failure of my rfa. (that, along with my boneheaded answers to the questions....) Anyway, I think I should probably wait until late June at the absolute earliest before trying again. Either way, I don't really need the tools to do what I do (though me having them might make some of the guys at AIV happier.....) and if I do need an admin for something like a move-over-redirect, I know exactly who to ask ;) so it's no big deal if I don't have the tools. Not to say I wouldn't like to have them, I would, but I'm basically saying that I can still make good (even great....well... ;) ) contributions to Wikipedia without them. So yeah. Congrats on your Rfa (again). It's really cool you passed it. Anyway, talk to you later. Thingg <sup style="color:#33ff00;">&#8853; <sup style="color:#ff0033;">&#8855; 17:01, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Dang it! &#172;_&#172; (I was thinking: ok, they know I'm weird already, but maybe that's going a little too far....) Thingg <sup style="color:#33ff00;">&#8853; <sup style="color:#ff0033;">&#8855;  17:40, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Also, are you using Adoption backlog/count for anything other than Adoption backlog? If you aren't you could probably delete (man, that's weird suggesting that you delete something...) that page because I transcluded the text of that page into the userbox page. Thingg <sup style="color:#33ff00;">&#8853; <sup style="color:#ff0033;">&#8855;  17:53, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

holy crap
I missed your RFA!, Here's my after-the-fact support, and congrats on the mop. &rArr;  SWAT Jester    Son of the Defender  00:37, 5 June 2008 (UTC)


 * My congratulations and support for you in your new responsibility!  Vishnava talk  02:03, 5 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Late congrats from me too. I honestly thought I had supported you. My mistake! &mdash; Maggot Syn 07:58, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Congrats!
Three cheers and a tiger for your successful RfA! Ecoleetage (talk) 02:29, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm glad for your success. And please don't take negative comments raised in the RfA discussion to heart.  If you can recall the old Rick Nelson song "Garden Party," it had the lyric: "See, you can't please everyone, so you've got to please yourself."  If you're satisfied with yourself, then ultimately that is all that matters. So...what's your first order of Admin business?  Who's going to be the first person to get blocked by the Xenocidic mop of justice? :) Be well. Ecoleetage (talk) 13:07, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Eh, blocking mannequins doesn't count! Some lucky person will be your first block -- they should be happy they are contributing to your Admin history. However, if I knew you were stealing jokes from Yakov Smirnoff, I would've voted Super Strong Oppose . Thanks! Ecoleetage (talk) 13:14, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Well done! Glad to hear of your success :-) <span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS,sans-serif"> Lra drama 15:57, 5 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Hmmm...I just took a peek at your contributions for the day. Apparently you're on a one-man blocking attack.  At the rate you're going, you should have all of the vandals off the site by midnight! :) Ecoleetage (talk) 01:44, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Congratulations!!!!
Congratulations on getting your adminship. I'd write something more meaningful if I had more time, but this is all for now. StaticGull Talk  17:39, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks dude! xenocidic (talk) 17:41, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Congrats
I can't remember what the encounter was. But it must have been good :). Congrats again, have a good day.  &lt;3  Tinkleheimer   TALK!!  17:55, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

For some reason I put this on my own talk page. Grats on the RFA again :).  &lt;3  Tinkleheimer   TALK!!  06:07, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Hi!
Congradulations! Hope you have a wonderful time on wikipedia as an admin, hope to see ya around- Cheers, :) B jacob (talk) 19:44, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks =). xenocidic (talk) 19:45, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Congrats
Congrats on becoming a Admin. Electrical <sup style="color:gold;background:Black">Vandilize Me 13:33, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

help
can you help me with something? Wi ki edi to r 222   01:16, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Sure, what's up? xenocidic (talk) 01:17, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Can you help me with my personal status thing. I made a board of status faces but they don't work. Wi ki edi to r 222   01:19, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm not quite sure what you're trying to accomplish but if you want to add your own custom statuses you'll need two pages - one to hold the statuses and one to hold the switch. User:Wikieditor222/StatusTemplate now holds the template and User:Wikieditor222/Status now holds the switch. Your custom status "stupid" should work properly now - though I don't know why you'd want to say that! Let me know if you need further assistance. xenocidic (talk) 01:29, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Help!
Thanks for the note on my talkpage. Could you please explain (in layman's terms) what is wrong with my status thingy? Congrats on becoming an admin too! = ) --Cameron (T|C) 09:47, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
 * My reply here.

June newsletter delivery
Hey, still up for delivering the June issue? 74 clicks this time. (Guyinblack25 talk 16:34, 4 June 2008 (UTC))
 * Sure thing... When will it be ready to go out? xenocidic (talk) 16:43, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
 * It's good to go now. (Guyinblack25 talk 16:48, 4 June 2008 (UTC))
 * k, lemme rev up my AWB. xenocidic (talk) 16:51, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
 * No worries, when you have time. (Guyinblack25 talk 17:08, 4 June 2008 (UTC))

Adoption
Hey, I saw you on the adopter list, you still adopting? Dave the Rave 16:14, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Am I doing ok? Dave the Rave 18:43, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
 * My reply here.

Beyond Good and Evil edits
Hi!

I've recently (June 1st) made some contributions to the Beyond Good & Evil (video game) page which were subsequently rolled back by you. I'd like to understand what exactly caused the rollback. Your comment on the rollback indicates 'spam'; however, I'd like to contest that qualification of the edits I made. The exact edits I made were as follows:

1) corrected improper grammar in the Reception section 2) added a reference to the game scoring top placement in a "Top 25 Video Game Heroes of All Time" article. 3) updated the Series Development to correctly reflect the recent confirmation of Beyond Good and Evil 2 (the previous version of the text spoke about this as non-confimed event, with the actual confirmation being simply tacked on at the end, which created an inconsistency) 4) added a reference to a review of the game at GameLemon.com

Of these, edits 1 and 3 (at the very least) have absolutely nothing to do with spam. These edits did not include any links at all, and simply corrected grammar and corrected outdated information. I am at a loss to understand why these were not deemed an improvement to the article.

As for edits 2 and 4, I can conceivably understand the spam designation since these two edits did include outside links to GameLemon.com, a site where I serve as Editor-in-Chief. Even in these cases however, please note that I did not just blindly add links. I added a reference to a professionally written and presented review of the game, which should be perfectly acceptable for adding to the table of reviews already present (from IGN, GameSpy, and the like), unless there are some special qualifications of which review sources are eligible to be listed there that I am not aware of.

The other edit (#2 above) refers to an article where the main character of the game was listed in one of the top positions in a Top 25 Video Game Heroes of All Time editorial, which is certainly relevant to the 'Reception' discussion. It's instructive to point out that the said article was a Top article on Digg.com with over 1200 diggs and hundreds of user comments, as well as enjoying broad popularity on several other large news and gaming sites - so it can in no way be construed as irrelevant, niche, or 'spam'. Myself and the rest of the GameLemon editorial team fully stand behind the integrity of our content, and if you take some time to peruse the said article, I am sure you'll recognize its high level of quality and relevance to the discussion here. While it would be silly to deny that creating broader exposure for my site was one of my goals in making these particular edits, I am sure you'd agree that this alone is not a reason to disqualify this content as long as its actually valuable and relevant, which I strongly believe it is. I am fully aware that all external links on Wikipedia include the 'no-follow' attribute, so I am not doing this to try to boost Google PageRank or anything of the sort.

In light of the above, I'd appreciate if you'd take a few minutes to offer your thoughts on the matter. I recognize that I am new to Wikipedia, so I certainly contend that there may be aspects of the Wikipedia code of conduct that I have not yet grasped; if that is indeed so, I'd appreciate according clarfications on the subject.

thanks for your time,

Vaga koleso (talk) 05:53, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
 * In looking at the edits, there was indeed some edits of value, but the reversion was done while I was reverting all your edits to video game articles for the addition of the "Game Lemon" links. The practice of adding one's own site as a reference to video game articles is strongly discouraged, however if you wish to dispute this, feel free to raise the issue at the Video Games WikiProject. I will re-add the edits of merit, but consider the conflict of interests presented when adding your own work as a citation when editing Wikipedia and review our guidelines on reliable sources. xenocidic (talk) 11:17, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Adoption Offer
I would like to be adopted, please. I notice you have offered on my page and I would like to take you up on it; however, I notice that you have many adoptees and I do not want to overburden you.--Noxia (talk) 13:18, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
 * My reply here.

Ready for that block
Based on the 68.217.248.180's last edit summary, I think he's about ready for a long block. Also, he gave what looks to be a real phone number in an edit summary earlier, that'll probably have to be deleted. Gwynand | Talk•Contribs 15:51, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Nalwin beat me to it. I'll delete that phone number as soon as I figure out how to. xenocidic (talk) 15:54, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
 * ✅. xenocidic (talk) 16:58, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

IP block
(Re ) Hi! Sorry to step on your toes, but I go after personal attackers right away. It's perfectly OK for you to block someone who's vandalized your userpage, assuming the proper warnings have been previously given (or if it's one of our periodic serial vandals, see Long term abuse. And, speaking of serial vandals, you should protect your user page and talk page against moves -- there's no reason for anyone but you to be moving those.  Welcome to the team!  NawlinWiki (talk) 15:54, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
 * My replies here.

Re: Congrats
I guess you submitted a request for oversight? Gary <b style="color:#02b;"><i style="font-size:large;">K</i>ing</b> ( talk ) 17:02, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Is it actually your phone number? I figured it was just some random phone number. xenocidic (talk) 17:03, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
 * It was a random number. Gary <b style="color:#02b;"><i style="font-size:large;">K</i>ing</b> ( talk ) 17:04, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't think oversight is necessary in this case then, but I'll seek a second opinion. xenocidic (talk) 17:05, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
 * If you didn't go through oversight, then how did you remove a diff? I thought that's what oversight was for. Gary <b style="color:#02b;"><i style="font-size:large;">K</i>ing</b> ( talk ) 17:07, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete page, restore everything except the offending revision. (See New admin school/Deleting). From what I understand oversight is only necessary in extreme cases. cheers, xenocidic (talk) 17:09, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Just astonishingly nosy...
...I have to ask. :) I've still got your talkpage on my watchlist in case further discussion comes up about CSD issues, and I've several times noticed you indicating "refactor reply". Being curious, I've peaked in to see that in fact you're just replying. (So far as I can tell.) Since refactoring a reply has such a specific meaning on Wikipedia, I just have to ask how you're using that term. Feel free to not tell me if it's some special fancy secret inside code. :D

While I'm here, how's it all going with the new admin stuff? Feel like you're getting the hang of things? :) --Moonriddengirl (talk) 17:15, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
 * So you're like me! Refactor reply - I replied on their talk page, but copied it to my page. Improper usage of the term? As far as getting the hang of things, I've so far only blocked the test accounts (naughty, naughty test accounts), but I've deleted a potentially sensitive revision. Other than that, haven't done much. Was busy yesterday, and still getting my thank-spam out. =) xenocidic (talk) 17:17, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
 * LOL! Absolutely. My extremely long, overly linked comments should tell you that. :D I don't know if it's improper use to the term or not (of if it would matter). It just made me curious because I couldn't figure out what you meant by it. This was no subtle trout slapping of the disingenuous but diplomatic "Oh, gee, I bet you can give me a really good reason for deleting ANI" feigned confusion kind, just real confusion. :D I got it now.


 * When I got my tools, I headed into CSDs right away as new page patrol was a major part of my work before then. It took me months to get comfortable at AfD, I've only just started helping out to any extent at CSD images, and I still don't do a lot of blocking (sometimes I'll help out at a backlog at AIV, but generally I'll wind up blocking a page creation vandal or doing a promotional username block as a side effect of CSD work). There's so so many ways to contribute, and such a never-ending need for tool users. Wherever you feel like helping out, there's bound to be a need. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 17:28, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
 * (edit conflict)I'd like to ironically cut in here and say that I've also seen the "refactoring reply" a bunch of times, but I guess it's no worse than what I always use: "added comment". Useight (talk) 17:29, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I type "reply" so routinely that sometimes I find myself having to remove it from the edit summary when I realize I'm not replying at all, but starting something new. :) --Moonriddengirl (talk) 17:31, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
 * On a related note, I've had to removed ~ from the end of my e-mails multiple times. And those are regular old Hotmail e-mails, too. Useight (talk) 17:35, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Do you find yourself adding wikilinks in e-mails? I do that all the time. :) --Moonriddengirl (talk) 17:36, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
 * No, I haven't done that yet, but thanks a lot. :) Useight (talk) 17:39, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Guilty on both counts! xenocidic (talk) 17:41, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
 * heh, I hear that. I'll start using "rr" as I know actual refactoring typically has a more far-reaching effect. oh, both of you feel free to help me expand my talk page stalker humour page, since you're now both confirmed stalkers! xenocidic (talk) 17:33, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

←If you add a sign-up section or make a userbox, I'm right there. Otherwise, I'm afraid my wit may not be up to the task. :/ --Moonriddengirl (talk) 17:36, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Will do =). xenocidic (talk) 17:41, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

 * Hey, thanks =) xenocidic (talk) 17:41, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Btw, did you ever get my XBL friend request? It still shows it as pending on my box.  Chris  lk02  Chris Kreider 17:59, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
 * My replies here.

For repairing vandalism to my user page. --John (talk) 17:56, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
 * No problem. xenocidic (talk) 17:57, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Usurp
Yes, to usurp the user name to someone else. I love bureaucracy. 86.66.199.41 (talk) 21:01, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
 * The reason you need an account because if the usurpation is approved, then they need an account in place to change to the usurped name. Though (I think) there are GFDL significant contributions from the username you want to usurp. xenocidic (talk) 21:02, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes one contribution... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.66.199.41 (talk) 21:11, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

WP:AIV tips
Hey, you can use Template:AIV instead of typing out comments in full. Gary <b style="color:#02b;"><i style="font-size:large;">K</i>ing</b> ( talk ) 21:00, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Awesome. I was looking for something like that. I'd give you a barnstar, but you've already exceeded your daily limit! ;> xenocidic (talk) 21:01, 5 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Aw, you can never receive too many barnstars! :p Gary <b style="color:#02b;"><i style="font-size:large;">K</i>ing</b> ( talk ) 21:02, 5 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Haha, cheers! :D Gary <b style="color:#02b;"><i style="font-size:large;">K</i>ing</b> ( talk ) 21:07, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Request
(copied from Keeper's talk for posterity's sake) Hey Keeper, do you mind taking a quick look at the blocks I performed today and make sure everything is in order? Especially the 3 month IP blocks (they had previously received 1-monthers) and the most recent indef for vandalism-only. Thanks, xenocidic (talk) 21:10, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Sure, give me a sec. I don't do a ton of blocking (not my forte), but I understand it anywho... Keeper   |   76   |   Disclaimer  21:12, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Ah, excellent work, Xeno! I especially liked your creative ThisIsATest block rationale :-).  The three month block was good, the indef was obvious.  I would actually say you were a bit conservative with this one, I think that could have been indef as well, clearly not here to be constructive.  You're doing great!   Keeper   |   76   |   Disclaimer  21:18, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Aye, the first few were a little conservative, kindof like the way you dip your foot in a pool to check the temperature. xenocidic (talk) 21:56, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I know exactly what you're saying. Better to err on the side of caution, lest you end up a thread at WP:ANI as an "incompetent new admin".  My first "serious" block was for like 12 hours tops.  My first "serious" indef, I brought to AN myself :-).  Be encouraged though, you're doing just fine!   Keeper   |   76   |   Disclaimer  21:59, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Exxcellent advice. I've been taken to ANI a number of times for my blocks... if I have any question/concern about a block (or page protection) I will take myself to ANI just to let somebody else look at them.--- Balloonman  PoppaBalloon 22:03, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Taken to ANI for your blocks? You?  I thought you'd never made a bad block!  :-P   Keeper   |   76   |   Disclaimer  22:07, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Adding administrative logs
As an aside (you're doing great as far as I can tell as an admin), you may want to add the block/delete/protect logs to your userpage. It's not only a quick reference for yourself, it lets others see and link to your admin actions quickly and easily. See this section of my userpage for an example that you are welcome to copy (obviously changing it to your username). It's what I used to quickly link to your action logs. Cheers, Keeper   |   76   |   Disclaimer  21:22, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
 * As another example from somebody else who thinks that's a good idea, there's User:Moonriddengirl/Contributions. :) --Moonriddengirl (talk) 21:36, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
 * STALKER!!!! (Actually, I can remember vividly butting into conversations on your page too, so I suppose 'tis fair :-P ) Keeper   |   76   |   Disclaimer  21:38, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Some of my favorite wikipeople are stalkers. :) I'm generally grateful for the assist. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 21:38, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
 * P.S. If you're known for your sense of humor, perhaps you should look at User talk:Xenocidic. Maybe you can help out there. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 21:40, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
 * k, I'll add those logs as soon as I sort out my new userpage. Thanks for the suggestion. xenocidic (talk) 21:56, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Adoption - Page Pilfering
Hi,

I'm setting up my adoptees page (for when i'm ready to adopt) and i was wondering if I could pilfer a certain table from your Adoptees page?  « l | Ψrom3th3ăn ™ | l »  02:30, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Certainly. Thanks for asking. and that reminds me, I've got potential adoptees to respond to. xenocidic (talk) 02:31, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

RE:the force is strong with this one.
No problem. Iam glad i have helped. Make sure you don't misuse it :)--SkyWalker (talk) 03:17, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Watching
(Re ) No. :) . My trick is this; if you have tabbed browsing, open up a new tab with the users Special:Contributions. Then just refresh that tab every minute or so to see if they make another bad edit. That any help? I see you're going nice and slow at AIV - good stuff! It's too easy to whack the hammer. Pedro : Chat  13:24, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Yep, I've been just taking 'er easy, anything I'm not sure about I'll either comment or let another admin take action so I can see what others thought appropriate. Yes, that does help. Too bad you can't RSS a user's contribs or something. xenocidic (talk) 13:27, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
 * And that particular school just got a seven day block for one bad edit today. Okay, there's a history and it's a school, but .... hmmmmm. Oh well, to each their own. Feel free to hit me up with any questions at all though - it's a bit disconcerting the first few times you use the buttons! Pedro : Chat  13:31, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Yea, I noticed. /shrug. Know of any admins that have a nice admin dashboard? I'm trying to improve mine, particularly looking for a way to add CSD in there. xenocidic (talk) 13:33, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
 * What about User:WJBscribe/Desk ? Pedro : Chat  13:44, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks, that's helpful, I'll pilfer borrow some elements from there. Unfortunately that category track isn't being updated anymore as far as I know. But I think I might be able to pimp it out using the thingee I learned about a while back. xenocidic (talk) 13:48, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Also User:Gonzo_fan2007/Desk ( I put this here so I can find it later ). My admin dashboard in progress is here : User:Xenocidic/dashboard. xenocidic (talk) 23:42, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Accounts that have degenerated into vandalism only
Wasn't quite sure what to do about this user, some constructive edits in the past, but pretty much vandalism only these days. I dropped a 24 hour, as they've not been blocked in the past. xenocidic (talk) 14:53, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes, 24 hoursd is fine, and just watchlist there talk or something and indef. if they do it after their return. There as been some talk recently about not leaping in with indef. even for clear bad faith accounts - but no guideline came from the discussion IIRC. Pedro : Chat  15:26, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Reply
(Re ) Yes, I did offer to nominate you, but you passed anyway, so I am very happy to hear that. Hope all goes well in the future. Cheers! - Diligent Terrier (and friends) 14:30, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I really can't remember where! Sorry about that. I know you said you would support me here, but that's about it. xenocidic (talk) 14:33, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I was a little too vague I guess - I meant this as a nomination offer: "Will you let me know when you're ready for a RfA?" Sorry about that :)  - Diligent Terrier  (and friends) 14:40, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Ahhh, gotcha. Well no matter, alls well that ends well =) xenocidic (talk) 14:42, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, I must say I'm very happy that you're an admin now. - Diligent Terrier  (and friends) 14:50, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Eco is back
Hey, I appreciated your kind words. I decided to return and give it another go. Thanks for your support and friendship. Ecoleetage (talk) 15:32, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

My RfA
Hello, Xenocidic, and thank you for your recent participation in my RfA, which was closed per WP:NOTNOW after reaching a vote tally of 5/15/2. While I am disappointed in the outcome, I understand that it - as well as the comments left by yourself and others - was in the best interests of Wikipedia at this time. I plan to take everything that was written to heart and improve myself here on Wikipedia with a goal of perhaps accepting a nomination again in the future, should someone choose to nominate me. As a way of gathering further feedback, I have created a page in my user space for other editors to leave comments about things that they might have observed during my RfA and to continue my "education process," as it may be considered. If you would like to contribute to that page, it may be found here. Again, thank you for participating and I appreciate your comments! --InDeBiz1 (talk) 18:09, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Re: *chuckle*
(Re ) heh. yeah, I took your advice. (you big important admin now....) So far, no one has said anything about it, so I guess it's ok. (And I'm willing to bet there's a message about my incorrect tagging of image talk pages waiting for me right now......&#172;_&#172;) Also, are you aware you just broke one of the most important principles of Wikipedia??! YOU ARE ALWAYS SUPPOSED TO BE BOLD!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YOU SHOULD BE DE-SYSOPPED IMMEDIATELY AND BANNED FOR 75 YEARS!!!!!!1!!!!!!1111!!!!11 (YEEESSSS!!! I've always wanted to use the caps-lock button on Wikipedia and I just did!!!!) ..... What are you looking at me for? I'm just making my comments more interesting...... *cries* Thingg <sup style="color:#33ff00;">&#8853; <sup style="color:#ff0033;">&#8855;  18:39, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
 * So have any like that been G6'd yet???!!!111one11!1 xenocidic (talk) 18:41, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
 * As far as I know, YESSSSS!!!!!111!!!!1 (ok, enough with the caps already.... *hangs head*) What you could probably do to find out is look through my deleted contribs (I'm pretty sure there's a page like that that's accessible to admins, but I'm not sure) for any image talk pages. Thingg <sup style="color:#33ff00;">&#8853; <sup style="color:#ff0033;">&#8855;  18:48, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
 * The one above got g8'd, but there were also a3, g2, g3 , g6 (a few, actually), g8. xenocidic (talk) 18:52, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

User talk:StewieGriffin! loves the skater girl
Just so you know, I had no affiliation with the creation of the above page. Congrats on the RfA. <em style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;color:DarkBlue">StewieGriffin!  &bull; Talk 19:36, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Yep, I know. 'Twas a page move vandal. Thanks mate. xenocidic (talk) 19:37, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Question on IP vandal
Sorry to bother, but I don't understand something. The IP vandal I reported earlier was given a final warning on his talk page not to disrupt the site at 20:41 at 27 May 2008. However, he did two more pieces of vandalism, at 20:55 on 27 May 2008 and 17:25 on 29 May 2008. Why is he being allowed to get away with that? Is there a statute of limitation? Thanks for clarifying that point. Ecoleetage (talk) 19:41, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Hi Eco - the reason I didn't block the user was because blocks are meant to be preventative - not punitive. Since he hasn't edited in over a week, there is no clear and present danger to the encyclopedia. Thus, it's advisable not to submit an AIV report on a user who has been inactive for longer than 10-15 minutes. Hope that helps. See also Blocking policy. xenocidic (talk) 19:44, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Understood. I got a lot to learn. Thanks! Ecoleetage (talk) 19:47, 6 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Twinkle is for Mozilla only, no? I am on IE.  Is Huggle okay for this? Ecoleetage (talk) 20:11, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes, I believe twinkle works on Firefox only, but I would suggest upgrading to Firefox anyway. It's free, and much more robust than IE. ( http://www.mozilla.com ). Huggle will also do automatic reporting, yes. xenocidic (talk) 20:13, 6 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Okay, I will try one or the other. I was interested in helping the anti-vandal effort -- I am sort of burned out on writing, editing and AfD at the moment.  Thanks Ecoleetage (talk) 20:14, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Hey, I just took a look at what your contributions today -- this may be a wild guess, but are you really the Energizer Bunny? Whoa, you've been quite active as an Admin. And for that, please accept this token of my appreciation:

Be well! Ecoleetage (talk) 23:29, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
 * My reply here.
 * Thank you, too! Ecoleetage (talk) 01:20, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Reverts?
Why are you reverting every single one of my deletions? — Nuclear  Vacuum  22:41, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
 * See . xenocidic (talk) 22:43, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
 * These templates are no longer in good uses, and the exact same information (plus more) can be found at Template:PlanetboxOrbit. — Nuclear  Vacuum  22:49, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
 * My replies here
 * Done! — Nuclear  Vacuum  23:20, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
 * My reply here.

Burmese new year
Didn't know about the Thingyan page, or i'd have redirected it there myself! Thanks, Shoombooly (talk) 22:43, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
 * No problem. xenocidic (talk) 22:44, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the help (JigGsaw)!
(Re ) I saw your note about the page being returned so I could continue working on it. Thanks! --99.238.247.128 (talk) 23:56, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

...message above was me - got logged out again! Anyway, thanks for the help! - --Drumbug1 (talk) 23:57, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
 * No problem. You should click that "Remember me" or "Keep me logged in" or whatever button that is. happy editing, xenocidic (talk) 23:58, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the help
You are an admin and know what's going on. I'll just let it go. The jargon thing on the page should be enough so it doesn't really need to be deleted I guess. Regards --Npnunda (talk) 00:02, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
 * My reply here.
 * Well after I checked out your link, I decided to nominate them after all. Hopefully at the very least I can learn a little more about how the WP:AFD process works. I'm not "out to get the article deleted" as much as I want it to sound more like it is from a encyclopedia and less from a workers manual. I'll keep it all in good faith. Thanks!! --Npnunda (talk) 00:35, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
 * My reply here.

Move page over redirect?
I found this page and noticed it had been moved ages ago to a random name. Would you move it back? Thanks. Thingg <sup style="color:#33ff00;">&#8853; <sup style="color:#ff0033;">&#8855; 02:20, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
 * ✅. It didn't give me the usual admin warning about 'do you want to delete this target page first' ... did you try doing it yourself? might've been possible. good catch either way. xenocidic (talk) 02:25, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
 * No, I didn't. (I assumed because two people had edited since the move...) So much for assumptions... Thanks. Thingg <sup style="color:#33ff00;">&#8853; <sup style="color:#ff0033;">&#8855;  02:27, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Hrm, I think it only matters if people have edited the redirect page. If the redirect page just has the 1 revision anyone can move over top of it. But I could be wrong, I'm a newb admin. ;> xenocidic (talk) 02:29, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
 * you're right... wow, am I thinking tonight.... Thingg <sup style="color:#33ff00;">&#8853; <sup style="color:#ff0033;">&#8855;  02:31, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
 * ;> xenocidic (talk) 02:32, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

earwax vs. lipbalm
I think those edits might actually be constructive (except the one that added all the question marks). I didn't believe it at first, but being the responsible admin I am, I did a google search and...there seems to be some credence to the claim. =) xenocidic (talk) 02:45, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I think I may be getting tired... I'll find something else to do until tomorrow. Thingg <sup style="color:#33ff00;">&#8853; <sup style="color:#ff0033;">&#8855;  02:58, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Strike that. I am definitely tired. I missed the link until now... nice one. Thingg <sup style="color:#33ff00;">&#8853; <sup style="color:#ff0033;">&#8855;  02:58, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
 * no worries yep maybe just unplug for a bit! =) xenocidic (talk) 03:00, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Vandalism block request for Orielense
I am still learning, so please explain. How best to proceed with this issue? I and others have attempted to contact in every way, and user is non-responsive. How is removal of neutral verified content a content dispute and not vandalism, particularly when user has used various IPs, used the minor edit label, and has not responded to communications? Zoticogrillo (talk) 03:53, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
 * My reply here.
 * I have blocked Orielense for 24 hours for violation of 3RR. Useight (talk) 04:06, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Yea, I noticed the helper bot commenting on it - seems reasonable enough. Thanks for keeping me in the loop. xenocidic (talk) 04:08, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Vandal
Thanks, that dude was one annoying motherf-  Sexy  Sea   Bassist  14:19, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
 * My reply here.

User:927 / User 927
''Do you think the soft redirect might be a better idea? If someone made the mistake once it's possible it could happen again. xenocidic (talk) 15:10, 7 June 2008 (UTC)''


 * I'm not sure. The problem is that it's not like a regular misspelled-subject redirect. This is a redirection from a page reserved for a user. It's complicated by the fact (that I learned only after my work) that Wikipedia user "927" was the person who created the article, and who only edited for a couple of weeks before disappearing. We have no way to know whether this person was the "User 927" spoken of, or (much more likely in my opinion) just a new Wikipedian who was trying to write an article on the subject, didn't understand the basics of MediaWiki (suggested by the partial, erratic use of wiki markup) and the Wikimedia project structure, and accidentally created a user page where an article was intended.


 * Having a user page point to an article page causes all kinds of peculiarities with the MediaWiki software. For instance, one can go to User:927 and check "User contributions" in an attempt to see what the infamous "User 927" has contributed to Wikipedia, and the fact that the actual Wikipedia user "927" wrote this original article would lend support to this idea. But it's almost certainly wrong and therefore very misleading.


 * After trying to convey this point in writing and finding these distinctions between subject and editor difficult to make clear, I think my original idea is reinforced. If we don't delete the redirect, we'll just encourage people to make an unsubstantiated leap of illogic. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 20:21, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
 * My reply here.

(unnamed adopter)
Please See adopter) this page regarding my concerns about (unnamed adopter) being an adopter  « l | Ψrom3th3ăn ™ | l »  08:58, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Moot point - adopter exercised right to vanish. xenocidic (talk) 15:32, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Tendai Madzorera
Had to revert you there, feel free to contact me if you have any questions. Also, the article clearly fails WP:BIO. Ban Ray  19:25, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
 * My reply here.
 * No problem, I've proposed the article for deletion. It seems he has never even played for that club, that's probably why the author blanked the page yesterday. Ban  Ray  19:33, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
 * My reply here.
 * Good decision, thanks ;) Ban  Ray  19:35, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Thank you
For your note. Though impractical, in reaction to certain types of vandalism I confess to a wish for lifetime bans. Cheers, JNW (talk) 20:22, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Indeed that vandalism you reported was completely unacceptable, but it wouldn't be fair to the next user of that IP for it to be indefinitely blocked. xenocidic (talk) 20:23, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Absolutely correct. Sigh. JNW (talk) 20:26, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

AIV
vandalism-only accounts don't need warnings the way IPs do. Look at the contribs.  Enigma  message 20:24, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
 * True, but it could be argued that at least one of those edits is somewhat in good faith, if not adhering to NPOV. Stale report now though, so removing. xenocidic (talk) 20:34, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Vandalism warnings
(Re ) Silly me, I assumed you guys actually looked at what the vandals were up to, rather than relying on some automated process. The warning templates are too wordy. Bluntness is called for in these cases. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 20:25, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
 * They're templated for a reason. Some users are using programs such as huggle, and there are also bots that depend on the templated warnings to determine when to automatically report a user to AIV. xenocidic (talk) 20:31, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Replies
Hey, I notice you liked my linking of my replies via "My reply here" enough to use it yourself. Jauerback now does it too. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. :) P.S. - Your talk page appears to have become really busy recently. Useight (talk) 00:23, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
 * My reply here. (ironic, yes? ;>)
 * No, actually, I've never tried an auto-archiver. That's a good question, though, I wonder if it would choke without the timestamp. Useight (talk) 15:21, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Hey
I just read the above comments, If you ever want me to co-adopt a user with you I would feel more than happy to.  « l | Ψrom3th3ăn ™ | l »  11:42, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

New Page Design
Hey, What do you think of my new userpage design?  « l | Ψrom3th3ăn ™ | l »  14:30, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
 * My reply/continued thread here and here.

Hi
Just wanted to say thanks for the good work. I'd created a redirect that seemed sensible, but the article on the person who directs has more sparse information than I'd remembered on his activities in recent years. Thank-you! John Nevard (talk) 15:24, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
 * No problem. xenocidic (talk) 16:35, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

assistant
''Bugbear, as you may know, Prom was my adoptee before he entered admin coaching. I was curious if you would mind me coming on board as an "assistant admin coach" (not co-coach, as I'm still green in terms of admin age). He has expressed a willingness to have me on board here. Let me know... Thanks! xenocidic (talk) 13:28, 9 June 2008 (UTC)''
 * Of course. Two pairs of eyes are always better than one. - Revolving Bugbear  16:01, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Re: Teh Huggle
(Re ) Yes. When you tag a page for speedy-deletion under G10, Huggle replaces the content of the page with "db-g10" instead of just adding the tag at the top of the page. I always thought it was a nice touch... Thingg <sup style="color:#33ff00;">&#8853; <sup style="color:#ff0033;">&#8855; 17:28, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
 * bah - it's make-work for us admins, it is! ;> xenocidic (talk) 17:30, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
 * huh? Wait you mean because you have look in the history to make sure it's an attack page? Thingg <sup style="color:#33ff00;">&#8853; <sup style="color:#ff0033;">&#8855;  17:31, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
 * yea... but I suppose i can trust you. =) xenocidic (talk) 17:32, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
 * No, that's not what I meant at all. :) I meant if that's making your job more difficult, you could suggest that Gurch make it so that Huggle doesn't do that when he rolls out the next version. (Sometimes it's hard for me to believe, but Huggle is currently on version 0.7.10. o_O) If you want to suggest it, you can do it at Huggle/Feedback or I can do it if you're too scared. ;) Thingg <sup style="color:#33ff00;">&#8853; <sup style="color:#ff0033;">&#8855;  17:35, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
 * to be honest it's probably a best practice anyway, i'll just let sleeping dogs lie... those damn sleeping dogs... xenocidic (talk) 17:38, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Thank You
Thank you for your comment on my RFA. I might consider Admin Coaching, I might not. I will figure it out in a week or so. :) Thanks again.  &lt;3  Tinkleheimer   TALK!!  18:58, 9 June 2008 (UTC)


 * I visited his talk, then went to deal with the article, and by the time I came back to Timmy, Edgar had busted him. I'm editing slow in my old age 8-)   Toddst1 (talk) 20:01, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
 * No problem. =) xenocidic (talk) 20:02, 9 June 2008 (UTC)


 * (Re ) Thank you for helping out, and thank you so much for your barnstar! I'll keep your advice in mind for next time. Nautica Shad es  22:24, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
 * No problem. xenocidic (talk) 22:26, 9 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Thank you for the speedy revert on my userpage! --Faradayplank (talk) 22:49, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
 * My reply here (in the edit summary).

WP:ANI
Hi Xenocidic, first congrats on your recent successful RfA. I notice you marked this incident posted on ANI, as resolved. It might have been good to have asked me about this before posting there. I'm afraid that the user posting claims that the subject of an article has committed incest is a very clear breach of WP:BLP. The editor concerned is now under the impression that my warning was unjustified. I realize that you did not say that at ANI, but that's what User:Myheartinchile is now claiming. Its not a big deal, but I'd hate to have this user believe that this kind of defamatory edit was being endorsed by an admin. Best, Gwernol 01:18, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
 * My reply here.
 * Thanks Xenocidic, much appreciated. Gwernol 01:46, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Sadie Harrison
I saw where you deleted this page due to improper page moves. Apparently the same user is moving the pages around again and I can't keep track of what's what. Could you take a look? Thanks!  TN ‑ X - Man  02:38, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Sorted. Thanks. xenocidic (talk) 14:41, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the assist. Cheers!  TN ‑ X - Man  14:45, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Re: rfa thanks
And thanks to you for your note and your thoughtful response to RfA comments. Congratulations and good luck with the adminship! --jbmurray (talk • contribs) 07:25, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

My old archive
Thanks for finishing my CSD so quickly! Arienh4(Talk) 13:21, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
 * My reply here.

Radio stuff
Hi xeno - just wanted to say that I've enjoyed your reports on FritzpollBot very much because they were balanced and informative. I shall definitely be watchlisting the Radio Wikipedia page to check out new reports by you and Stewie. Fritzpoll (talk) 14:34, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
 * No problem. Would've let you know but I figured you'd see it on Sam's page anyway =) (re: short (94s) segment on Radio Wikipedia covering this decision. You can preview the segment here). best of luck fritzy, you've got a lot of work ahead of you. xenocidic (talk) 14:37, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

requesting check for suspected sock puppets
as i'm a new anon ip, i will try to ask you the following:

recently on the UFO article, there seems to be the case of sockpuppets:

the admin User:Kwamikagami (aka kwami) seems to be the puppet master of User:ScienceApologist. they always agree with one another, always support one another, always protect one another and always use the same or very similair writing style. so i thought that maybe i can find another neutral admin who checks these two as kwami seems to abuse his admin rights to push the POV of SA and himself. if you feel uncomfortable doing so, please contact one of your admin colleagues and let them do the job. thx in advance. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.84.19.26 (talk) 16:10, June 10, 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm definitely not the best person to go to with this, I'm not even a week as an admin. I'll raise your concerns with the individuals you mentioned and a neutral admin. xenocidic (talk) 17:08, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
 * a'right. thank you very much. i think this is the best way to handle this issue and these concerns. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.84.19.26 (talk) 13:13, June 10, 2008
 * I left messages with the two users you mentioned and another admin. Though you should know that accusing someone of sockpuppetry is a very serious allegation. Also, don't forget to sign your comments with ~ . xenocidic (talk) 17:14, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
 * while that might be true, i think it's better to make sure i'm wrong. i simply see a pattern in the behavior et all with these users...besides their obvious POV pushing. 66.84.19.26 (talk) 17:18, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
 * If you want to make an accusation, the appropriate place to do it is here. ScienceApologist (talk) 17:20, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Xeno, I've replied on my talkpage to your question. Cheers, Keeper   |   76   |   Disclaimer  17:24, 10 June 2008 (UTC)


 * 66.84.x.x, I don't have time to review the lengthly debate at Talk:UFO, but it appears that this has arisen out of a content dispute where consensus has come down on "the other side". Rather than call sockpuppetry (I doubt someone who has been an admin for nearly 3 years would jeopardize the trust of the community by engaging in sockpuppetry), perhaps seek a less contentious area of editing or accept the consensus, and move on. xenocidic (talk) 17:31, 10 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks, Xeno. SA and I have completely different interests and long edit histories, so I don't see how anyone who looked into it would think we're sockpuppets. It seems to be a case of our anon. IP being incredulous that two editors could have the same contrary opinion. kwami (talk) 17:57, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
 * No problem. I think perhaps a side-order of incorrect terminology use as I suggested here. IP user has since blanked his talk page with the edit summary: no need to block me because of my differing opinion...i'll take my leave now. glad i opened no account. POV and silencing at its best. <^>, so I guess that concludes this matter. Though nothing he did was block-worthy, if misguided. xenocidic (talk) 18:03, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Adoption
User:Spittlespat would like me to adopt him.I don't know if you think I'm ready, but I will co-adopt if I have to.  Mr. Green  Hit Me Up  About Me  16:21, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
 * You're still a little wiki-young (just 2 months) but I can oversee as co-adopter if you like. xenocidic (talk) 17:02, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Yea ok.I'm trying to find the Mormon UBX Spittlespat mentioned.Do you know where I can find it? Mr. Green  Hit Me Up  About Me  17:10, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Perhaps this one: User:UBX/LDS? Useight (talk) 17:13, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Or this one: User:Java7837/userboxing/mormon? Useight (talk) 17:13, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks Us8, I was dealing with the situation above (feel free to comment on that one). xenocidic (talk) 17:17, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I would take a deeper look into it right now, but I'm busy writing an essay for my Managerial Economics 301 course. I can only contribute via brief, intermittent edits. Useight (talk) 17:21, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

here's this if you want it.  Mr. Green  Hit Me Up  About Me  17:37, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Aye, I'm not putting individual userboxes up anymore (got way too many adoptees, but I'll tuck him onto my adoption page. xenocidic (talk) 17:40, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Shouldn't we not be encouraging adoptees to put up userboxes stating their religion? Not so much a WP:NOTMYSPACE issue, it just doesn't seem like a good idea, doesn't really help or add anything. Gwynand | Talk•Contribs 17:49, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I think the adoptee was specifically asking for one...so Jacob was just being helpful. as for whether religious userboxen should be displayed... that's a can of worms I'm not going to touch. xenocidic (talk) 17:51, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
 * And I just answer questions from a neutral point of view. He wondered where the userbox was, I showed him. Useight (talk) 17:52, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah... I was actually trying not to be too preachy about it, but am only mentioning it because this is adoption, seems like the first bit of good advice might be to avoid such user boxes. Gwynand | Talk•Contribs 17:54, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm going to talk to him about it.He doesn't seem to be on right now though.When he comes back I'll try to explain why he shouldn't place that on his page. Mr. Green  Hit Me Up  About Me  17:56, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

&larr; Might be a good idea. Thanks for the note Gwynand, I was a little tied up (see the section above) to delve deeper into the issue =). While you talk page stalkers are here, why not help me improve my page on the subject? ;> xenocidic (talk) 18:05, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm not a stalker. Oh, wait... Keeper   |   76   |   Disclaimer  18:06, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

why shouldn't I put up my mormon userbox? It's the only userbox I have do You guys think people will hate me just beacuse I am a mormon I'm sure lots of wiki users have the mormon userbox.--Spittlespat (talk) 18:45, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
 * There's been an ongoing debate as to whether or not it is useful or in the interest of encyclopedia-building to display religious beliefs on one's userpage. As I said above, it's a can of worms I'm not interested in opening. It's ultimately your call. xenocidic (talk) 18:48, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
 * No, no. Nothing to do with being Mormon. You might want to take a look at WP:NOTMYSPACE. It might cause you problems, and considering I'm sure you don't want people to judge you over it one way or the other, might be best to just not have it. Gwynand | Talk•Contribs 18:49, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

how
how do I make a light green bakcground?--Spittlespat (talk) 18:58, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
 * My reply here.
 * I tried to explain how I made my background.I didn't do it the way you showed me.I made a div.I think Spittlespat should get it, but do you want to add anything to what I told him, or make a little more cleaer?  Mr. Green  Hit Me Up  About Me  16:04, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
 * My reply here.

So aren't you going to put userboxes on my userpage?
Put A userbox that says the user plays the piano and this user plays runescape. OK? Since you adopted me you are ok to put that on my userpage (put the userboxes on my userpage the piano one and the runescape one)--Spittlespat (talk) 19:44, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
 * My reply here.

check it out!
go to my userpage!--Spittlespat (talk) 20:16, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
 * My reply here.

Name...?
just out if interest, what does your name mean? I won't likely come back to this page so ANSWER ON MY TALK!!!11!ONE!

It seems to mean 'I kill strangers'. Wait...I'm a stranger to you!

SAVE ME LORD! AGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

-- Editor510  drop us a line, mate  19:05, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
 * See question 6 here or this. Short answer: xeno is meant to refer to an invading alien species, not "stranger". cheers, xenocidic (talk) 19:08, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
 * FWIW, Card most certainly did not coin the term Xenocide. See this game from 1989, for example, although I remember a standup arcade game from the late 80's of the same name, too. Jclemens (talk) 20:24, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Not sure if the term appeared in Ender's Game (1985), but Speaker was published in 1986. xenocidic (talk) 20:29, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Contemporary forensic etymology is a fun pastime. Who knows, if we find an authoritative answer, we might be able to stick it into an article somewhere. :-) Jclemens (talk) 20:46, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
 * =). xenocidic (talk) 20:49, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Sockpuppet concern
Hi. That SSP noticeboard is a genuine study in frustration. That User:CodyBestFoods is an obvious sock of a banned user, right down to the edit patterns and name creation. I've been trying to get the doggoned noticeboard to work for me, but I just can't. --PMDrive1061 (talk) 19:48, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
 * My reply here.
 * Never mind; I got it to work. Thanks.  --PMDrive1061 (talk) 19:53, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
 * My reply here.
 * No problem, bro. Welcome to the mop and bucket brigade and thanks for the help. :) --PMDrive1061 (talk) 19:55, 10 June 2008 (UTC) cookie

AIV on 65.254.6.98
What's "stale" about my report on User_talk:65.254.6.98? &#8212;Largo Plazo (talk) 20:21, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
 * My reply here.
 * I don't understand. It doesn't matter how many times a user has vandalized, how many times he has been warned and at what levels, and whether or not he continued doing so after a recent block was lifted, as long as he hasn't edited in the last 45 minutes? &#8212;Largo Plazo (talk) 20:29, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
 * My reply here.

CoD 4
Sorry about removing that section, at first glance it seemed it was just another POV section that sometimes slips into articles; I hadn't looked at CoD 4 in a while, and the new CoD game announcement reminded me. I've been making awkward edits like that all day, I must need a break. Thanks for correcting me, hope it was no trouble. -- Comandante    { Talk }  21:01, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
 * My reply here.


 * Thanks again, I can relate to the edit thing. And since this other situation I'm in is so similar and you're an admin now (congrats by the way, didn't know about your RfA), maybe you can recommend what to do here: On Fallout 3, is it correct to mention this as a source when saying that fans of the series are "outraged" that the Survival Edition of the game is only available in the US rather than PAL regions? The source is the developer's blog site, but the outrage only appears in the comments, not the blog part itself. Simply put, is it valid or not to include in the article? The exact policies for sources like this always blur for me. -- Comandante    { Talk }  21:17, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
 * My reply here.

Dude,
I totally just ripped off your dashboard. Friggin sweet. Keeper  |   76   |   Disclaimer  15:53, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
 * oh I know! glad you like it. P.S., It can be transcluded and it should work fine and you'll benefit from any improvements I make to it. xenocidic (talk) 15:56, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I didn't transclude it, but what are you changing? I like it how it is and did the old fashion cut/paste... Keeper   |   76   |   Disclaimer  16:11, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I dunno, I might add stuff or just tweak it a bit. Just watchlist it I suppose and see if you want to integrate the changes as they are made. xenocidic (talk) 16:13, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Done. Keep in mind that I'm an old dude.  I change slowly, and I creak when I walk.  Once I get used to using the dashboard + header, if it changes on me without me knowing ahead of time, I'll start crying like a baby.  Thanks for the pilfer -  Keeper   |   76   |   Disclaimer  16:17, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Ha ha! Ditto. :D (Sorry for the name confusion on my userpage! If it weren't for all the hullaballoo, it wouldn't have happened. It was by no means meant to be pointy in any way, and I'm glad you fixed it!) --Moonriddengirl (talk) 17:57, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
 * No problem at all Moon, it's a common typo. take care of those old bones you two ;> xenocidic (talk) 17:58, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Talk page stalker!!!. I love what Xeno is doing with this dashboard thing, I'm having a great time with it - I encourage you MRG to get it up and running, it is so efficient!  BTW, I also today linked my dashboard to your "frequently used templates", because well, it's sheer genius and organized.   Keeper   |   76   |   Disclaimer  18:00, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

&larr; I got dem linked too, but from here. xenocidic (talk) 18:03, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks. :D Right now I have the dashboard thing linked from my userpage under "upcoming and ongoing projects". When my work situation settles, I may set it up more completely. As to the TPS charge, well. Guilty. However, I came on legitimate business this time. I need to 'pologize. :) --Moonriddengirl (talk) 18:06, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

newbie, can you tell?
Hi! Thanks for responding to my request for help -- I just updated my talk page with the following question:

Regarding valid acceptable references and sourcing for new articles that are IT related, are articles and reports from industry-leading analysts (such as Gartner, IDC, Forrester Research, etc.) considered valid?

Thanks for your help! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Elmorgan (talk • contribs) 18:50, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
 * My reply here.
 * Hi again.


 * I just posted my question related to sourcing new articles, but forgot to sign my name...


 * Elmorgan (talk) 18:54, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
 * My reply here.

Thanks for replying! I did read the document you suggested, but I just can't tell from what's there... thing is, if analyst sources are not acceptable, I don't want to write the article, or take up anyone's time reviewing it, since analyst reports are the only credible source I can find for the emerging technology I want to cover.

Elmorgan (talk) 19:02, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
 * My reply here.

Numberjacks
Compare the changes to the titles to the links to the Numberjacks website and you'll see he/she repeatedly changes them so they are incorrect. I reported the vandalism as soon as I saw it. It went stale as he/she doesn't seem to attack elsewhere. If the vandalism contines I'll request semi-protection. Bevo74 (talk) 21:07, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
 * My reply here.

Talk Page Stalking
I decided to add a new userbox to my userbox page (currently hidden) :)  « l | Ψrom3th3ăn ™ | l »   (talk) 07:18, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Nice =). Feel free to help improve the page as well. xenocidic (talk) 12:21, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

User:Icantstayaway
Hi there. I see that you don't consider User:Icantstayaway's contributions vandalism. As far as I can see the user is repeatedly adding unsourced content to articles about living people, despite having been warned about this. May I ask you to reconsider? -- JediLofty User ¦ Talk 10:35, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
 * My reply here.
 * No, as far as I can see the user has not responded anywhere, but has added unsourced and OR material, even after having been warned repeatedly. I'm not sure I necessarily agree with your assessment that unsourced contributions to articles on living persons aren't vandalism.  Certainly the more sever BLP warning templates (uw-biog3 and ) both mention the threat of blocking.--  JediLofty User ¦ Talk 12:37, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
 * My reply here.
 * Fair enough. Thank you for your speedy response! --  JediLofty User ¦ Talk 12:42, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

The two IPs
See 1 and 2. They are at the very least editing from the same location, and it is highly probable that they are the same person.  The Hybrid   13:07, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
 * My reply here.

Re:It's been a while
(Re ) This one stumped me for a while, but then I noticed you were using the Userbox template. I have encountered that in the past and for some reason it always seems to have major issues with doing what you want it to do. (no clue why) I "hardcoded" the userbox and it seems to align fine now. Gotta tell you man, doing that felt like old times.... *sniff* ;) Thingg <sup style="color:#33ff00;">&#8853; <sup style="color:#ff0033;">&#8855;  14:00, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
 * My replies here.
 * hmm... the spacing is an easy fix, but it might take me a while to figure out the other one... just FYI. Thingg <sup style="color:#33ff00;">&#8853; <sup style="color:#ff0033;">&#8855;  14:07, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
 * My reply here.
 * ok, I came up with an admittedly clumsy fix, but it works and I really have no idea how to do it more efficiently. btw, I also inadvertently stumbled on the reason why the old userbox was out of wack: it was aligned to the left... (nice huh?)  Thingg <sup style="color:#33ff00;">&#8853; <sup style="color:#ff0033;">&#8855;  14:50, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
 * My reply here.

Re AIV
Yes, this editor's only edits today are those two to a talk page. The AIV was concerning the edit late last night, as indicated. (Incidentally, couldn't we at least get you a less crappy t-shirt or a nicer mop?) - Mdsummermsw (talk) 15:53, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
 * My reply here.

thanks
for the help.I posted it at th village pump, but idk how well it'll work... Mr. Green  Hit Me Up  About Me  17:18, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
 * My reply here.
 * oops...sorry. Mr. Green  Hit Me Up  About Me  17:31, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
 * My reply here.
 * Ummmm....I'm not sure what the link you gave me yesterday was supposed to tell me. Mr. Green  Hit Me Up  About Me  15:21, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Oops - my reply here.
 * Cooly and thanks for putting it on my page for me. :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jacob696 (talk • contribs) 15:33, June 13, 2008 (UTC)

Dashboard
For your dashboard, it looks like other people are starting to copy it to their own userspace. Would you like to make the page transcludable (that's a mouthful) so others can just transclude it to a page of their choice? Or perhaps the page can be modulized so people can pick-and-choose what they want to appear on their own version of the dashboard. Gary <b style="color:#02b;"><i style="font-size:large;">K</i>ing</b> ( talk ) 19:10, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
 * It should already be transcludemable. Modularization sounds fun. xenocidic (talk) 19:12, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Also replied here.
 * Only Keeper is using it for now. There are others who linked to the dashboard for when they need it. Gary <b style="color:#02b;"><i style="font-size:large;">K</i>ing</b> ( talk ) 15:20, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
 * My reply here.
 * Stopping by to note that I've been making quite a lot of use of it from my link point. :) --Moonriddengirl (talk) 17:07, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Glad that it's useful to people. =) Let me know if you can think of any ways to improve or enhance it. xenocidic (talk) 17:09, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Reply
(Re ) No, I haven't], but now that I just did, I see it as a very reasonable explanation for what occurred.  Enigma  message 00:02, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
 * My reply here.

My RFB
Thank you for your comments in my RFB. Since it was only at 64%, it was a shoo-in to be unsuccessful, so I withdrew. I didn't want it to run until its scheduled close time because my intent in standing for RFB was to help the bureaucrats with their workload, not give them one more RfX to close. Through the course of my RFB, I received some very valuable feedback, some of it was contradictary, but other points were well agreed upon. I have ceased my admin coaching for now to give me time to revamp my method. I don't want to give up coaching completely, but I'm going to find a different angle from which to approach it. As for my RFA Standards, I am going to do some deep intraspection. I wrote those standards six months ago and I will slowly retool them. This will take some time for me to really dig down and express what I want in an admin candidate. If, after some serious time of deep thought, I don't find anything to change in them, I'll leave them the way they are. I'm not going to change them just because of some community disagreement as to what they should be. Will I stand for RFB again in the future? I don't know. Perhaps some time down the road, when my tenure as an administrator is greater than one year, if there is a pressing need for more active bureaucrats, maybe. If there no pressing need, then maybe not. Useight (talk) 03:00, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
 * My reply here.

Thankyou
Thankyou for your help thing you set up on my page if i need help i will contact you Thanks. (Icantstayaway (talk) 08:47, 13 June 2008 (UTC)).

hi xenocidic, i apologise for the rather abusive and somewhat insulting behaviour. i didn't originally create the page 'Callum Stroud' but i know who did and they told me to look at it. i came on to look at and to my slight annoyment, it had been deleted. As i did not know the content of this page, i don't know how oit violated the rules of Wikipedia. i was annoyed at not being able to read what my friend had put about me and thought i would leave a message to show my annoyment. i realise that it was immature and irresponsible.please do not block me. i will now delete the page and ensure it doesn't happen again. many thanks, Stroudi —Preceding unsigned comment added by Stroudi (talk • contribs) 16:05, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
 * My reply here.

User:Otto4711
darn you beat me to him.... Mr. Green  Hit Me Up  About Me  16:38, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

What did I do wrong....it looks ugly.... Mr. Green  Hit Me Up  About Me  16:50, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
 * My replies here.
 * AHA...thanks.... Mr. Green  Hit Me Up  About Me  17:09, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Do you know the HEX code for blue?The kind of blue that I have on the monk ubx? Mr. Green  Hit Me Up  About Me 
 * My reply here.
 * Cooly....thanks Mr. Green  Hit Me Up  About Me 

Raymond Griffiths
Hello is this where you wanted me to let you know that I have finished (roughly) my piece on Raymond Griffiths? Ellerdch (talk) 18:02, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
 * My reply here.

How much do you know about world history?
I need to know where a bomb from Japan landed in in America.It did not explode for a couple years after it landed.I think it may have been in Hawaii but I'm not sure. Mr. Green  Hit Me Up  About Me  18:43, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
 * My reply here.

Dance Dance Revolution (Game Boy versions)
(Re ) There doesn't appear to have been a consensus, just a few changes made by Link as he promoted his position on the subject. The title "hand held versions" is too vague, as there's plans for a "Cell phone versions" article as well (which would also fall under hand held games). And merging those two articles would make it too large. Game Boy versions is the best fit in this case and I have to take any proposal from Link to the Past with a grain of salt as I've encountered him many times making over zealous changes that few or no one agrees with. In the end it's still a case by case idea, I believe that sorting by system instead of type is better given the amount of broad-based DDR articles there are and will be. --AeronPrometheus (talk) 18:47, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
 * My reply here.
 * Thank you much. --AeronPrometheus (talk) 18:58, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Dashboard idea
Is there a way to get the "immediate requests" box to update when there are current requests for rollback? I think the requests get filled relatively quickly, so maybe unnecessary/moot as most admins that grant userrrights watchlist the RFR page. Just a thought though, Keeper   |   76   |   Disclaimer  19:08, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I'll take a look when I get home. Heading out the door this second =). xenocidic (talk) 19:13, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Inexcusable! Fix it now!!!  Actually, I think it wouldn't work, because there isn't a CAT to link to "current requests".  But I'm a techno-n00b, so I could be really just talking gibberish... Keeper   |   76   |   Disclaimer  19:15, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Hows this - when there are unanswered requests for rollback, a section will appear in the table of contents "Rollback requests". If there are no requests, there will be no such section. Good enough? Will work as long as someone doesn't futz up the Rollback requests page. xenocidic (talk) 21:47, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Excellent! Fix mine too! For your convenience....   Keeper   |   76   |   Disclaimer  22:09, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Ah, keeper, too busy socializing on your talk to realize I did this 25 minutes ago... ;p xenocidic (talk) 22:12, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
 * You've done well, grasshopper. You've done well. I bow at your feet, o technologically gifted one.  Like I said though, rollback requests are usually granted within minutes of request at RFR, so I probably won't need the extra feature, but I'm glad it's there anyway. Cheers, have a great weekend,  Keeper   |   76   |   Disclaimer  01:52, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Heh, no problem, you too. As long as the WP:RFR page doesn't get futz with, it should work well. I gave you credit for the idea in the documentation of the dashboard. xenocidic (talk) 01:54, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

Re:Comments.js
(Re ) Sorry - I just had it restored with db-author still on it. I have the text copied now, so yes, feel free to delete it. Thanks, «  Milk's Favorite  Cøøkie  23:21, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
 * My reply here.

Ta
Thanks for the defence of my CSD patrolling on my talk page Fritzpoll (talk) 23:22, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
 * No problem at all. I know how it is to be questioned for "new admin cautionism" ;p xenocidic (talk) 23:24, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Dashboard?
Hi Xeno, I've seen on Tan and Keeper's page something about an admin dashboard. If it's not complicated, can you show me how to use it? It sounds useful. TravellingCarithe Busy Bee 02:03, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Certainly! The dashboard is at User:Xenocidic/dashboard. You can copy the code, or preferably, just transclude it somewhere in your userspace. Or you could even just use it right from my page, but then you wouldn't get added to the user's list =). Dashboard documentation and feature requests are on the talk page here: template talk:admin dashboard. happy admniming, xenocidic (talk) 02:04, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks! I'll look into it. It seems easy enough to use. I'll let you know if I have any questions TravellingCarithe Busy Bee 02:16, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I'll vouch for it. The "dashboard" is a beautiful thing, insanely useful, for which Xeno, if he invented it, (I'm pretty sure he did), should get accoloages, barnstars, and flowers sent to his home.  I love my dashboard, seen here... Keeper   |   76   |   Disclaimer  02:18, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes, his dashboard is slightly modified because he likes to delete pages more than whack vandals. ;p ( i keed ) xenocidic (talk) 02:21, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
 * OK, I'm confusled. Not hard. I'm not code-inclined. I made it here and then I got your header so I changed it to my name and got a red link. Otherwise, I like how handy the links are. It beats loading pages just to see if there is anything new. TravellingCarithe Busy Bee 02:22, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Aye, you don't need that header line unless you have a header that you put on all your pages as I do (and keeper robbed from me, but that's ok, because I robbed it from someone else). xenocidic (talk) 02:24, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Got it, thanks! Off to play. Know where to find you if I have any other questions. It looks like a great tool, thanks for creating it. TravellingCarithe Busy Bee 02:28, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
 * No problem! If I make any enhancements, I'll integrate them into your dash. Let me know if you would like anything added. xenocidic (talk) 02:30, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

The Training Wiki
Hey Xenocidic,

Are you interested in helping me Founder a "Trainig Wiki" for adoptees (and adopters), admin coaching/ers to be able to try out various things (including admin tools) in an enviroment that is based entirely on Wikipedia (with appropriate Attribution).

This wiki will also be used for testing media wiki extentions that could be implemented in all the wikimedia foundation projects, but thats up to thwem we can only provide feedback on the extention page..

You may say "this idea has already been done", well you could not be more from the truthe. Ive seen the most common wiki that attempt's to give users experiance with the tools, but this wiki is noway similar to wikipedia (i mean they're not even running the same version or templates etc to try)

Have a think about it and get back to me  « l | Ψrom3th3ăn ™ | l »   (talk) 10:32, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
 * To be honest, I don't really have time to work on another wiki, I'm also not sure how much benefit there is in giving users admin tools in a clinical environment like a test wiki. Really and truly, the tools themselves are not that difficult to use, it's in the application of said tools to real-world situations that requires experience. xenocidic (talk) 14:02, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

Re: Not a barnstar
(Re ) Thanks! The code was so straightforward that this has inspired me to consider embarking on tweaking other things in scripts to my liking. (It sounds like you had a similar experience with your modification) Never done JavaScript before, but it just looks like a pretty basic C++-style language with duck-typing.

Kinda funny that there was >5k of hand-wringing over that issue, and it literally was like a single line of code to change the script so that Kelly wouldn't have that problem in the future. ha ha ha... --Jaysweet (talk) 14:27, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
 * My reply here.

How's it hangin'?
Hi, just thought I'd say a little hello – and congratulate you on your adminship! Hope you guys have been taking good care of the GTA IV article, it would appear that I haven't even taken the time to buy and play it yet! And since that one was actually the only article I was editing on a regular basis, I'm almost on a wikibreak now, only editing when I spot something a do better in less than 30 seconds, heh. nut how's it hangin' for you, got plenty of work to do as an administrator, huh? —  Emil K.  (talk''' 00:36, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
 * My reply here.

Congratulation
I saw that you were named an administrator even though I have only dealt with you a little. Congratulations. Chris (talk) 18:35, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks Chris! Let me know if I can be of any assistance. xenocidic (talk) 15:13, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Anytime. Chris (talk) 15:16, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

RE: Ewi30 Blocking
Thank you for blocking the user I stopped from further vandalizization. Cedarvale1965-08 (talk) 02:46, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
 * No problem. He obviously wasn't here to contribute constructively. xenocidic (talk) 02:48, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Agreed (Cedarvale1965-08 (talk) 04:16, 16 June 2008 (UTC))

RE: Request for adminship
Thank you for taking care of my request on the request page. I am sorry, but I have not ever tried to recieve adminship. I hope I get in, but it's not crucial. I'll just stay an experienced user. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cedarvale1965-08 (talk • contribs) 03:22, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
 * It looks like your RFA has already been closed, but no problem. xenocidic (talk) 03:30, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Talk:Pablo Picasso
Thank you for your assistance with Talk:Pablo Picasso Dbiel (Talk) 03:38, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Is using "move" to create an article talk page archive considered acceptable? If not, could you post a notice stating so at User talk:Koavf as this is his primary method of creating archives and he was the one who created the problem that you helped fix. Thank you again Dbiel (Talk) 03:56, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

My "oppose"
Thanks for notifying me! Which status thingy are you using? I have been using the manual one but I am getting rather fed up with it! --Cameron (T|C) 14:04, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
 * My reply here.
 * Oh yes I see now. I think I shall switch sometime soon. = ) Thanks, --Cameron (T|C) 14:12, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Userboxes
Since you just became a admin you proboly don't have as much time anymore.I was wondering if you would like me to take your userbox requests off your hands. I'm pretty sure I could handle any requests. Mr. Green  Hit Me Up  About Me  18:28, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I haven't had a request in a while, but if I do, and I can't handle it, I'll certainly send them your way. xenocidic (talk) 18:29, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Read and Understood
(Re ) KK. I'll put in a request now. <em style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;color:DarkBlue">StewieGriffin!  &bull; Talk Sign 18:49, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Ye, not sure if it'll work due to the SUL which I just remembered, but couldn't hurt to try. P.S. I'll have a new report ready tonight (EST), but probably not in time for today's broadcast, if you're making one today. xenocidic (talk) 18:51, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I've put in a request for a steward. There should really be a new tool. Anyway, I need to take my dog out still: Image:BlackLab.jpg. I'll try to put a short one out today and get your contribution on tomorrows. I can't say for definite if there will be one tonight. <em style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;color:DarkBlue">StewieGriffin!  &bull; Talk Sign 18:59, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Archiving
(Re ) Why? On my talk, you made the claim "Cutting and pasting is typically preferable to page-move archiving." Where did you get this information? WP:ARCHIVE gives the pros and cons of both, and I personally prefer page moving. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 20:32, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
 * My reply here.
 * Not really It is not clear that there is a consensus for copy-and-paste moving for two reasons: 1.) three out of 5 million members does not consensus make and 2.) if anyone was pleased with the move-archive method, he wouldn't complain on my talk in the first place. I prefer move archiving to copy-and-paste; I realize other editors disagree and that is fine with me as well. But it remains to be seen that one is necessarily better than the other and as you point out, there is not a policy obliging one method. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 21:31, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
 * My reply here. (conversation continues at Koavf's talk page, and also at WP:VPP)

My status script
I need some help on it, mainly getting the automatted process working again, but also changing this to how yours is with the dot. It right now takes up too much room and is sometimes hard to read.—  Dæ dαlusT@lk /  Improve <sup style="color:Green;">Contribs   02:59, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
 * My reply here.

Hi
Just saying hello. How are you? :) --UberVash (talk) 21:21, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I am well, thank you! xenocidic (talk) 21:46, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Our Adoptee
Seems to be editing less and less. Have you talked to him lately?  D u s t i SPEAK!! 00:34, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
 * My reply here
 * See my talk.  D u s t i SPEAK!! 15:50, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
 * My reply here.

Talk:Nicolaus Copernicus
Thanks for your assistance and reverting the archive Talk:Nicolaus Copernicus/Archive 6created using move and moving it back to Talk:Nicolaus Copernicus Dbiel (Talk) 13:46, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Yea, no problem. He sure did this to a lot of pages, I've been at it all morning. xenocidic (talk) 13:47, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks very much for doing the same for Talk:Charles Darwin, wasn't feeling confident enough to tackle it myself. Much appreciated. . . dave souza, talk 17:26, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
 * My reply here.

Many thanks for all your work, expecially for starting the discussion at Village pump (policy) Dbiel (Talk) 19:08, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
 * My reply here.

Thanks for the notification.  Ty  00:07, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Disambiguation
Anny....I don't know what to do with this article.Shouldn't it be a disambiguation? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jacob696 (talk • contribs) 4:03, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
 * It kindof already is somewhat like a disambig. I would just leave it alone. Maybe tag it with Category:Disambiguation. If you're asking if it should be moved to Anny (disambiguation) then, no, because there's no article that wants to be at Anny. xenocidic (talk) 16:08, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Okay I added it to the Category:Disambiguation. Thanks.  Mr. Green  Hit Me Up  About Me  16:15, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Do you know the HEX code for light green?
Also, do you know what I did wrong for my comitted idedtity template?  Mr. Green  Hit Me Up  About Me  18:16, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
 * My replies here.

Nine days
Did I miss something? That IP you just blocked hadn't edited in nine days, and I had tagged as such... Tan  |   39  17:42, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Nope, you were quite right. I didn't notice the dates, and when I saw the extreme language used, I went right to the blocking form. I've already unblocked. xenocidic (talk) 17:43, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Word - Tan   |   39  17:44, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Wikigoon
Awww....you removed the WikiGoon...he's a newly discovered fauna of Wikipedia, shouldn't he be listed too? (Don't worry - I didn't put him back in, nor will I :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by KoshVorlon (talk • contribs) 18:41, June 17, 2008 (UTC)
 * I moved it to the Extended Fauna list, where new discoveries belong (See Template talk:Wikipedia fauna). But if you were to kick some earnings upstairs, we could talk ;p xenocidic (talk) 18:47, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Dashboard - Thanks (suppression)
Hi there! Just a quick thanks for suppressing the admin section for me (I was unaware this option was available, though I admit I did not look. I've been keeping an eye on your talk page for a while now (can't remember why), but you seem like a good bloke -- Keep up the good work. &mdash; Relyimah(t-c-e) 20:54, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
 * It wasn't. I designed it for you ;>. As such, I've immortalized you in the documentation. No problem - enjoy! oh, and thanks. =) xenocidic (talk) 20:57, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks! While I know it will be a long long time before I ever considered admin status, I have always been one who likes to know what is going on with that side of things... your dashboard seemed like a good first step. Cheers! &mdash; Relyimah(t-c-e) 21:06, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
 * For sure. It can serve as a quick shortcut to get to AIV (though I always prefered twinkle's ARV system) you could also comment on AIV reports, you can also keep an eye on users looking for help, RFA, and comment at WP:UAA. xenocidic (talk) 21:09, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I have already started doing some of this already (however, I tend to do most of this when I should be doing 'proper' work). Once I get some more time on my hands (Read: win the lottery), I hope to start cleaning this place up a bit :) Thanks again, and it seems I know where to come if I ever need assistance with anything. Now, on to some of that work I'm supposed to be doing... &mdash; Relyimah(t-c-e) 21:13, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks
I was trying to figure out what was going on there, both of you confused me!!! Unfortunatley, the IP came back, thought I would tell you since you gave the warning.  D u s t i SPEAK!! 23:38, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
 * No problem. I issued a final warning. I'm on the way out the door, so report to AIV if he re-vandalizes. xenocidic (talk) 23:40, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks.  D u s t i SPEAK!! 23:42, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

RE: Discouraged Staatements
(Re ) You're right. I probaly shoulf NOT add text like I did. I have since removed it. I just figured since you're allowed to have boxes that state you support a canidate, I thought you could add something like I did. Thanks for telling me. --Cedarvale1965-08 (talk) 01:47, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
 * My reply here.

Auto archiving
Hmm, good to know that the bot can still handle the threads. Perhaps I'll give it a try one of these days. Useight (talk) 15:33, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Yep, I'll let you know if it works as advertised. xenocidic (talk) 15:34, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
 * (Re ) Yeah, looks like MiszaBot III is coming through under pressure. Useight (talk) 16:21, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Bureacracy at its finest...
Looking through random articles, I become interested in Edison's Conquest of Mars (nothing to do really with the point of this), so I look it up on Barnes & Noble's site. There, I see a passing reference to Catch-22, and in turn look up the plot here. I eventually find this and this.

Basically, there's an article for every character in the book, no matter how obscure, and I have no idea why all of this wasn't condensed onto the list of characters page in more succinct descriptions. Since overlooked stuff like this irritates me (enough to post this here at almost 2 AM), I am considering putting all of the character articles in an AfD: none of them assert notability or have sources, and since when do we need an article for every character in a book? Sure, I could just start up a merge discussion, but I doubt that would work; I don't even want to take on the task of a merge like that, so I don't see why anyone else would want to, unless a sizable group of editors got together and did it all at once. Even if there is a merge, most of the less important character articles should be deleted rather than become redirects, which is a lot of deletions.

Anyway, I know something should be done about this, but I don't even know where to begin. Is it even possible to put so many articles up for deletion at once? I'm just at a loss of how to handle the matter (I hesitated before posting this and thought of ignoring it, but hey, it's 2 AM so why not?). -- Comandante    { Talk }  05:50, 18 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Well, I squared my jaw and went to work, and decided I can't possibly do it alone. It appears there were previous efforts to try and merge the pages together, but nothing happened. I guess no one else wants to take on such a load. Putting some thought into it, I think this is what needs to be done:
 * Merge all Catch-22 character articles (except for this and this, more detailed, possibly notable) into List of characters in Catch-22.
 * Identify the major/important characters of the novel; I haven't read the book so I'm not in a position to do this.
 * Delete all of the articles on the unnamed characters, as well as the majority of named characters who aren't significant in the plot; I don't believe there's a need for so many obscure redirects.
 * Convert the undeleted articles about the more significant characters into redirects to the main list.
 * Clean up Template:Catch-22, and put it on the Catch-22 article; it isn't there for whatever reason.


 * Or, Option B-urrito: We ignore all of this, you delete these comments, and I forget the issue by eating this burrito in my fridge. Kind of sad just letting this go (nags at my organizational side), but I figure if we can't do it, we can't do it. This kind of cleanup needs manpower and gusto, which are at a premium this day and age ("someone else will do it eventually," etc.). But I ramble, so -- Comandante    { Talk }  07:10, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Interesting. I always thought Catch-22 was written by Kurt Vonnegut? Maybe I'm thinking of something else. Anyhow, what to do with these? They've been around for an awful long time. Since the main article claims that this is "cited as one of the great literary works of the Twentieth century" then I suppose it does deserve some deeper discussion, but many of these characters articles are completely unreferenced and based on primary sources. Is Maid with the lime-colored panties deserving of her own article? Certainly not, perhaps merge with Lime-colored panties ( I keed ). Anyhow, as you said, this is indeed a monstrous task, perhaps one that may best be prompted by a mass AFD, which I've seen before in the past. Anyhow, just so you know your burrito comment really made me hungry this morning. I'm going to ask someone who is more experienced with deletion to comment. 12:23, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
 * copied from keeper 76's talk page Ouch! Why'd you poke me?  I'm tellin' mom....With a title like "bureacracy at its finest", I was holding my breath expecting the worst...whew. It's about content!  How refreshing!  I agree with Commandante - those need some massive pruning/deleting, especially the "unnamed characters".  How silly for standalone articles, and completely implausible search terms.  The "Catch-22" in all of this is that anyone who hasn't read the book won't find them notable, and anyone who has, because it is a fantastic book, will argue that they are all notable.  I don't think a mass AFD is the way to go, too pointy. I think BOLDNESS is the way to go, with a dash of IAR.  Before deleting anything though, because it is such a prolificly available and popular book, there are no doubt countless reviews/dissections&mdash;probably graduate papers, on the book and the characters.  If a few sources can fix the WP:OR problem, perhaps they can be salvaged?  I'm talking about the "named characters", not the ridiculous maids and whores and whore's sisters... Keeper   |   76   |   Disclaimer  13:44, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Xenocidic: Thanks for taking a look at it. As I may have mentioned, I'm probably not the best person to go around and point out the significant characters since I haven't even read the book. By the way I've opted for Option C-oming to my fridge to eat the burrito; all of the burrito and none of ignorance of Option B-urrito. Anyway, I'm willing to do something to help clean up the articles, I just need to be pointed in the right direction or something (but I'm not reading the book for this; I already have six novels for summer reading for my AP classes, so my hard-worker side is swamped). Whenever someone comes up with a plan, I'll be there (unless no one tells me about the plan; people have a tendency to forget to inform me of important stuff, like the field trip bus leaves at 5:00 AM...). Thanks again. -- Comandante    { Talk }  16:54, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Perhaps another course of action would be to try figure out who is an active contributor to these articles and gently suggest they perform some merging into the List of chars article. xenocidic (talk) 16:58, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Using Sparknotes, I believe I've weeded out the lesser characters. Here I've altered the template to contain only the major characters, which either are notable enough for their own articles or just enough to not warrant deletion. These are mainly notable becuase they personally affect the main character, John Yossarian, or represent the significant failings of the military bureacracy in relation to Yossarian's squadron and thus impact the plot. I'll start getting to some of the active editors and begin merging the lesser notable characters to the main list; found a spare hour or two in my schedule today. -- Comandante    { Talk }  18:35, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
 * In the words of a great man, make it so. xenocidic (talk) 18:38, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Farm?
Hi Xenocidic, I believe an account you have blocked (Nigel321) might be part of a vandalizing sock farm. I've filed an RFCU here, in case you want to comment. Thanks, R. Baley (talk) 17:03, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Done. cheers, xenocidic (talk) 17:08, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

3rd Party Opinion
As a gamer, can I get you to drop in and give an outside opinion at Talk:List_of_songs_in_Rock_Band where there is a discussion on whether DLC announcements from the artists themselves count as reliable sources Vs. announcements by the games publishers. Any input would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! Chris lk02  Chris Kreider 18:18, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
 * My replies here & here.

joining the ranks of the admins

 * My reply here.

Thank you very much
Thank you for blocking that IP user who presumably took exception to an agreement made towards a move on a Wikiproject page! Bobo. 13:42, 19 June 2008 (UTC)


 * I reported it! I'm taking the credit! :D  Enigma  message 13:46, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
 * no prob
 * heh =) xenocidic (talk) 13:47, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Would appreciate your opinion
Good evening. This message has been addressed to you because you happened to be around at the time. I wish to add the moniker "Lex Orwell" to the proposition section of this article on the basis of this, but I am biased as all hell and as such wish for an outsider's opinion. Don't consider yourself under any obligation to answer. --Kiz o r  13:07, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Something like this at the end of the first paragraph would probably be appropriate -

The proposed law has been nicknamed "Lex Orwell", in reference to the book 1984 by George Orwell.
 * yes? xenocidic (talk) 13:12, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Like that, yes, our tried-and-true method of combining precise citations, transparency of sourcing, support for conflicting opinions, and covering our own collective rear. Good stuff. As was mentioned, the issue was more about me (justifiably) not trusting my own judgement, but it was still awfully nice of you to build up that cite template. Thanks! --Kiz o r  21:29, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

User talk:68.13.151.71
Just wanted to give you a heads-up that I partially reverted User talk:68.13.151.71 as this vandal is correct that WP:USER gives this IP the right to remove (almost all) messages at will from his or her own talk page. --Kralizec! (talk) 14:07, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Hrm, I was under the impression that block templates were not to be removed for the duration of the block. xenocidic (talk) 14:10, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Warnings and old block templates may be removed, but not current blocks, IIRC. This way, if someone else uses the IP they can see the block and understand what's going on.  Enigma  message 14:13, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Yea, that's what I thought. Coulda sworn I read it somewhere, but as is always the case, I can't find it now. =) xenocidic (talk) 14:14, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
 * See, WP:USER doesn't really address IP talk pages, at least sufficiently. To me, the IP talk page is not their talk page - it's the IP's. If you want your own talk page with the right to blank warnings and do whatever you want, create an account. Tan   |   39  14:19, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Good point. xenocidic (talk) 14:19, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Tan, I agree that IPs shouldn't blank their own talk pages, but the policy constantly stated at the noticeboards is that they too have the right to remove warnings and it's a sign that they've been read. This doesn't address dynamic IPs, though... In short, I disagree with what's been stated as policy.  Enigma  message 14:21, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes. Really, this is a great example of when we should ignore policy. What's best for the project? If the anonymous editor clearly isn't being constructive, I see no reason why I should allow them to blank anything off their talk page, when that history could be useful for a future admin to see how long the problem has lasted. Tan   |   39  14:25, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Indeed. I've already ignored it, protected the talk page, and reverted to the version with the block template. =) xenocidic (talk) 14:32, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Actually the issue was rehashed several months ago at WP:VPP, and the clear consensus was that both registered and anonymous editors have the same rights under WP:USER. In fact, the "policy does not prohibit users, including both registered and anonymous users, from removing comments from their own talk pages" part of WP:BLANKING was explicitly updated in the hope that it would permanently resolve exactly these sorts of issues.

While I share no love for the jerk behind this IP address (indeed two of this IP's three most recent blocks were from me), I do not see how the project is benefited by we-in-the-admin-community reverting this talk page to the version we like when the anonymous editor in question is actually following WP:USER. --Kralizec! (talk) 15:27, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, in following WP:USER, he violated WP:NPA (even while you were trying to help him). Anyhow, I still think block templates should remain for the duration of the block, and I'm fairly sure I read that somewhere. I'll keep poking around. xenocidic (talk) 15:30, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I completely agree with your protecting the page; after all I had just warned the IP two minutes before that those sorts of edits would "not be tolerated." However none of this changes the fact that this anonymous editor's USER-granted right to remove messages from his or her own talk page has been violated.  (And in case you are wondering why I am defending the rights of someone whom I have a very low opinion of ... I am a strong believer in the importance of process.)  --Kralizec! (talk) 16:46, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
 * No problem at all. I agree with you on that, I just thought I had read somewhere that block notices were supposed to remain whilst active (must have confused them with declined unblock requests). xenocidic (talk) 16:52, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Seeking wider opinion: WP:Administrators' noticeboard. xenocidic (talk) 15:44, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the heads-up; I replied there with my understanding of our current official policies and guidelines. --Kralizec! (talk) 16:46, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Yep, and thanks for the link to the relevant VPP discussion. xenocidic (talk) 16:52, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Aargh, beat to the punch
You blocked 165.166.21.126 moments before I clicked the block button. I guess I'm a little slow first thing in the morning. Useight (talk) 14:16, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Clearly, my dashboard gives me the upper hand. =) xenocidic (talk) 14:20, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't know, I'm kind of fond of my similar page, which doesn't yet have a fancy name. I'll have to think of one. Hmm, maybe "tool box". Useight (talk) 14:25, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
 * See, that's why I beat you, my AIV stuff is right there, in your face. you have to "show" it =). P.S. you do realize that the backlog category tracker hasn't been updated in like 6 months? feel free to lift some elements from my dash for the backlog stuff. xenocidic (talk) 14:27, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
 * The dashboard rocks Useight. It says "purge" right on it.  I've stolen it from xeno, and I love love love it.  Steal it!   Keeper   |   76   |   Disclaimer  14:28, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I hope there was supposed to be a comma between "rocks" and "Useight", :P. I'll take a look into it. Useight (talk) 14:33, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
 * It can be transcluded onto your "helps" page, and then you'd still have all that other handy stuff. xenocidic (talk) 14:34, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
 * In the end, I only stole the AIV commenting templates. I may take a couple more things in the future. Useight (talk) 14:46, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Hi Xenocidic, I've put a simplified version of your dashboard into template format: dashboard. Hope that's ok. PhilKnight (talk) 23:28, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Sure thing. I've been meaning to move it into template space once I felt it was polished enough (getting there). xenocidic (talk) 00:50, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

I don't understand this question.
. The second line.Second question.I don't know what she's asking me to do.  Mr. Green  Hit Me Up  About Me  16:18, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
 * something like this userpage, perhaps? User:Chrislk02. xenocidic (talk) 16:21, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

I'll reply here. I would like to use Futura or Gill Sans as the font. <b style="color:#00FFFF;">UNI</b><sup style="color:navy;">| SOUTH  17:35, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Actually it's probably best to reply at Jacob's talk page, I was just helping him figure out what you were looking for. xenocidic (talk) 17:38, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

It wasn't that big of a deal...
Yeah, Requests for adminship/Ali'i wasn't closed right on time. It's not that big of a deal, though; the closing time is just the earliest it can be closed, not the exact moment that it will be closed. !votes are still valid after the scheduled ending time. (you mentioned that there was an oppose placed after the closing time, but just take a look at the numbers: that one oppose wasn't what killed that RfA)

And to answer your question of "crats, wru", I was on my lunch break. Please keep in mind that we are all volunteers. If I were getting paid to be a bureaucrat, I assure you, I would have made sure that I was by my computer when the RfA was scheduled to end. But I'm not, so it wasn't as important to me as, say, eating and then getting back to my day job.

Also, please don't add Closing to RfAs.RfAs aren't something that editors and admins can close; with very few exceptions, they should only be closed by bureaucrats, so right off the bat, the template is inaccurate. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 18:34, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Heh. EVula, see here.  All smiles. :-)  Keeper   |   76   |   Disclaimer  18:35, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
 * aye, wasn't sure. was bold, and then sought advice. i was removing the template and you ec'd me with the closure. cheers, xenocidic (talk) 18:38, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Grand scheme of things? Not that big of a deal. Don't worry, I won't kill you over it... I don't kill for the first offense. ;) EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 18:48, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
 * =) P.S. the "wru" was me trying to be cute (I forgot the requisite emoticon). still, eating lunch while an RFA needed to be closed was completely unacceptable ;>. xenocidic (talk) 18:51, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
 * My IV is still on its way; once it arrives, I won't need to take a break for food. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 19:50, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Nice! When my IV showed up, I didn't eat much either =). xenocidic (talk) 19:52, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Oooh, well played. This round goes to you. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 20:03, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Xeno is teh shit sysop! Xeno is teh shit sysop! (this is a huge compliment Xeno, ask EVula for the "history")  Keeper   |   76   |   Disclaimer  20:40, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

&larr; Thanks then, I guess! I'll need to be filled in. Thanks also, for taking care of that issue below. G11 is something I still stay away from. xenocidic (talk) 20:44, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
 * The red flag to me is an article with speedy/prod/afd on it. Way too bitey for one, and way to eager to remove something.  I left a comment on the AFD, that "airplane" has 72000+ google hits, most of which may be garbage, but certainly enough "attention" to see if there's anything there.  No need to use a flamethrower to light a candle... Keeper   |   76   |   Disclaimer  20:48, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Speedy deletion
Could you please review my speedy deletion nomination of Seventysomething (term)? Thanks. - Diligent Terrier (and friends) 19:00, 19 June 2008 (UTC)


 * I could non-admin close its AfD if it is deleted. - Diligent Terrier  (and friends) 19:01, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Speedied as G4. xenocidic (talk) 19:03, 19 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks! Just closed the AfD.  - Diligent Terrier  (and friends) 19:03, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
 * No problem. =) xenocidic (talk) 19:06, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Would you also mind reviewing Articles for deletion/Hangar9 Sundowner? I will close the AfD pending deletion. - Diligent Terrier (and friends) 19:16, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm still hesitant on G11, talking to the creator. xenocidic (talk) 19:21, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Thank you
Thank you for participating in my RfA, which passed with a final count of 42 supporting, 2 opposing and 2 neutral. I would like to thank Keeper76 especially for the great nomination. I look forward to assist the project and its community as an administrator. Thanks again, Cena rium  Talk  00:06, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
 * My reply here.

Sundowner article
(Re ) Yes. This product has been reviewed by various independent magazines and it is an absalute icon in the model flying world. Propeller driven (talk) 10:08, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
 * My reply here.

Re: AIV
(Re ) You were the one who told User:82.201.17.136, "Although vandalizing articles on occasions that are days or weeks apart from each other sometimes prevents editors from being blocked, your continued vandalism constitutes a long term pattern of abuse. The next time you vandalize a page, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia." (emphasis yours) And in response they vandalized again. How does the fact that it happened 5 hours ago, rather than 5 minutes, make any difference as to whether they should be blocked? Kevin Forsyth (talk) 12:56, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
 * According to the blocking policy, blocks are meant to prevent disruption, as opposed to be punitive. If the IP is no longer vandalizing at the time, it shouldn't be blocked because there is no ongoing disruption. See also the instructions at the top of WP:AIV. Best regards, xenocidic (talk) 13:01, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Maybe
There should be a block reason just "with extreme prejudice" - works for me :) Cheers -- Herby talk thyme 12:59, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I'll start using it in the optional comment ;> xenocidic (talk) 13:03, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Thankyou
--  Electrical  Experiment  14:36, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

thanks buddy
(Re ) Thanks, i only want to stop vandalism and revert pages, yet i didnt know how to do it until now. Thanks a bunch. And i do have twinkle, yet how do i use it?

<em style="font-family:Alien Encounters;color:green">T ra to s <em style="font-family:Lucida Handwriting;color:black"> <em style="font-family:Alien Encounters;color:black">the <em style="font-family:Alien Encounters;color:green">Great  —Preceding comment was added at 02:14, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
 * My reply here.

oh, yeah see i dont have firefox, just ie so. I have to revert the manual way. Oh well. And i cant install it either, so.

<em style="font-family:Alien Encounters;color:green">T ra to s <em style="font-family:Lucida Handwriting;color:black"> <em style="font-family:Alien Encounters;color:black">the <em style="font-family:Alien Encounters;color:green">Great  —Preceding comment was added at 02:17, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
 * My reply here.

Great, thanks. And just to make sure i dont mess up, how do i undo? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tratos the Great (talk • contribs) 02:19, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
 * My reply here.

i did it!!!
I have within 10 minutes fully reverted pages & sent out warnings to the users of 3 vandalized pages! Im so happy, im a true member of the anti-vandaluism unit. :) Thanks so much buddy.

<em style="font-family:Alien Encounters;color:green">T ra to s <em style="font-family:Lucida Handwriting;color:black"> <em style="font-family:Alien Encounters;color:black">the <em style="font-family:Alien Encounters;color:green">Great  —Preceding comment was added at 02:49, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
 * My replies here.

hey, check out this page
I want you to check out this page and tell me what we should do with it. ‎Walter Willison -Tratos —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tratos the Great (talk • contribs) 03:24, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

I was wondering if instead of waiting 4 days, if you could please promote me to the Established Users group. I am one ( in reality, not yet in wiki tho) but i dont want to wait. I hate having to write the kapitcha's all the time. Please? <em style="font-family:Alien Encounters;color:green">T ra to s <em style="font-family:Lucida Handwriting;color:black"> <em style="font-family:Alien Encounters;color:black">the <em style="font-family:Alien Encounters;color:green">Great  —Preceding comment was added at 03:58, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't think that's possible. You'll have to wait it out, unfortunately. As for the article you asked about above, it needs a huge cleanup. If you feel up to copyediting it, go for it. I'm off for the night. happy editing, xenocidic (talk) 04:03, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Concerning the Walter Willison page, as much as i dont want to, im going to go and clean that up. Just wanted to let you know.

-Tratos —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tratos the Great (talk • contribs) 11:28, June 20, 2008

k, i would like to user Rollback now
I have reverted a good number of pages now, and i get the hang of it. Can you please allow me to use it now? If so, thanks. IUf not, im still reverting anyway, just thought Rollback might make it easier. <em style="font-family:Alien Encounters;color:green">T ra to s <em style="font-family:Lucida Handwriting;color:black"> <em style="font-family:Alien Encounters;color:black">the <em style="font-family:Alien Encounters;color:green">Great  —Preceding comment was added at 16:41, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
 * It's too early to grant rollback, you've only made a handful of undo's, and not all of them were correct. Continue using the undo button for a few weeks. xenocidic (talk) 16:43, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
 * My reply also here.

Xenocidic, i feel nows the time
Hey buddy. Ive been baking this for a while, and i feel right to give it to you. Im sure that you are hungry. . — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tratos the Great (talk • contribs) 02:20, June 20, 2008 (UTC)
 * My reply here.

Hey
Do you know if i can get an award? Like, the enthusiam barnstar or something? I just need something to put in my Awards page. I have reverted 20 edits by now, and ive helped a couple of users out at the help desk. Plus, im not even established yet! So, can i get an award for that? Please? Tratos —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tratos the Great (talk • contribs) 17:47, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
 * My reply here.

Re: ur crazy
(Re ) Yeah, I like the simplicity of it, I guess. I find it insane to split up archives into so many pages, to be honest. I hope my user page and my talk page both make it blatantly obvious that I prefer to keep things simple when I can :p Gary <b style="color:#02b;"><i style="font-size:large;">K</i>ing</b> ( talk ) 04:37, 20 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Also, my talk page archives every 24 hours, which you may find too much but it keeps my talk page nice and tidy, once again :P Gary <b style="color:#02b;"><i style="font-size:large;">K</i>ing</b> ( talk ) 04:42, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
 * My reply here.


 * Nah, it will probably never grow that big... :p Gary <b style="color:#02b;"><i style="font-size:large;">K</i>ing</b> ( talk ) 06:01, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

StatusTop
I need help with modifying the Status Top script so that it is like what I currently have, meaning, the: in, busy, out, and wikibreak links like what I have now.—  Dæ dαlusT@lk /  Improve <sup style="color:Green;">Contribs   06:37, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Also, in this section, there is no edit link at the top. How did you do that?—  Dæ dαlusT@lk /  Improve <sup style="color:Green;">Contribs   08:21, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
 * My reply here.
 * I don't mean that, I mean, it the upper left corner of most pages, there is an [edit] box to the right of the title. The one you're refering to is one I made to link to the page it is transcluded from.—  Dæ dαlusT@lk /  Improve  <sup style="color:Green;">Contribs   20:51, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
 * My reply here.

Help Me: List of films receiving six or more Academy Awards
I would like to request the assistance and intervention of an administrator, please. Thank you. (Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 14:54, 20 June 2008 (UTC))


 * What's up? xenocidic (talk) 15:13, 20 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Yes, I am an admin. How can I help you? xenocidic (talk) 15:27, 20 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your help. Here is the situation:


 * I went in to do some edits on the following article: List of films receiving six or more Academy Awards.
 * I saw that the article was moved and renamed to the following article: List of films receiving five or more Academy Awards.
 * This edit was done by a user named: User:Milk's Favorite Cookie.
 * I was confused by this edit / renaming / move for several reasons. The most important being that: (a) the article only involves films with six or more (not five or more) Academy Awards; and (b) there was no discussion on the article's Talk Page (Talk:List of films receiving six or more Academy Awards).
 * I reverted the edit and moved / renamed the article back to its original name.
 * To seek clarification about this issue, I placed the following question on the changing editor's Talk Page: User Talk:Milk's Favorite Cookie.
 * Today, I noticed that the changing editor: (a) reverted my edit back to his previous edit; and (b) did not respond to the question I placed on his Talk Page.


 * So, can you please intervene? This makes no sense (to me) and I have no intention of getting into some futile argument with this editor if: (a) he is taking unreasonable actions such as these; and (b) he is ignoring my reasonable questions seeking to clarify the situation.  Thank you.  Please intervene and please advise.  Please reply at my Talk Page.  Thanks for your help.  (Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 15:37, 20 June 2008 (UTC))
 * My reply here.

(Re ) I moved it there because of a conversation with Scorpion0422, planning to work on the list. I've completely forgotten, and I'm not planning to work on the list anymore. Sorry for the confusion. «  Milk's Favorite  Cøøkie  16:03, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
 * My reply here.
 * Today, I must have moved it back to five academy awards instead of six, which I meant. Apologies. «  Milk's Favorite  Cøøkie  16:10, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
 * My reply here.


 * Thank you for resolving this issue. I appreciate your assistance.  Many thanks.   (Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 01:44, 21 June 2008 (UTC))

I LIKE YOUR NAME!
I saw your name, I liked it. (That should be obvious) Xeno Cre8or  Talk to me! 18:59, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
 * =) xenocidic  ( talk ) 19:00, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

User talk:12.30.22.36/Archive 1.
Are we supposed to archive IP talk pages? I thought we could just delete the warnings, no? · AndonicO  Engage. 20:16, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Personal preference, I guess. I've seen people use the permalink to an old version, I guess I'm just used to the tried'n'true archive method. xenocidic  ( talk ) 20:37, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Okay, thanks. I deleted one the other day... sorry. · AndonicO  Engage. 18:32, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
 * No biggie. It can be seen in the talk page history. I'll probably stop creating them, it doesn't make sense for an IP to have archives. – xenocidic  ( talk ) 18:42, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

The RickK Anti-Vandalism Barnstar

 * No problem, and, thanks =). – xenocidic  ( talk ) 02:16, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Rfa!vote
(Re ) Thanks. I was meaning to do that, but I didn't know what I should do, so I just removed it. Thanks again!! America69 (talk) 14:07, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
 * My reply here.

Adoption
So sorry I didn't get back to you, I have just spent too much tme on editing and not on discussion. Yes I would like to get adopted by you please, and primarily require help in articles relating to video games, etc. My Main interest is seeing how I can help get articles to atleast GA status. Thanks. By the way, is it possible to opt out of the adoption? Like midway or something? Thanks again.

JTBX (talk) 14:22, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
 * My reply here.
 * okey doke. JTBX (talk) 14:28, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
 * My reply here.


 * Thank you JTBX (talk) 15:01, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Signature help
(Re ) I already know about links, I just needed to know how to put those words under the words in the superscripted format. And i am currently working on reducing my signature, so. But thanks anyway, and please let me know how to put the words under the other words. thx, -<em style="font-family:Verdana;color:black">me (im still working on my signature) —Preceding comment was added at 20:37, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh, and by the way, im working on reducing my sig rite now (im gonna miss it...). So yep. How do i do the thing which is possible yet would be long? —Preceding unsigned comment added by IaM7DeadlySins (talk • contribs) 20:41, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
 * My reply here.

Can you look it up for me and then tell me please? Ive reduced my signature. I am the7 Deadly <em style="font-family:Verdana;color:red">Sins  <em style="font-family:Verdana;color:blue">greed, gluttony, and wrath envy, sloth, and lustpride hows that? —Preceding comment was added at 20:58, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
 * My reply here.

K, well hows this? I am the7 Deadly Sins <em style="font-family:Verdana;color:blue">greed, gluttony, and wrath envy, sloth, lust and pride Can i have the code now? I have enough room for 50 characters. —Preceding comment was added at 21:03, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
 * My reply here.

well, can i please have the code then anyway? ( its allrite, ive been editing pages before i asked this ). —Preceding unsigned comment added by IaM7DeadlySins (talk • contribs) 21:38, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
 * My reply here.

It wont let me, becuz there is something wrong with the HTML tags. I cant figure out what it is. —Preceding unsigned comment added by IaM7DeadlySins (talk • contribs) 21:41, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
 * My reply here.

kk, thanks. but about the thing you gave me, all it does is put the words within the words before it. I am experimenting rite now to get it below. But, any tips? —Preceding unsigned comment added by IaM7DeadlySins (talk • contribs) 21:49, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
 * My reply here.

mmk, now this is ticking me off. I have now made that signature, 7Deadl Sinsgreed, gluttony, and wrathenvy, sloth, lust and pride, but it wont let me use it. Where the heck is there a error? I have scanned it again and agai n and i cant find a flaw. So, i wanna use that as my raw signature, but the stupid thing wont let me. Please find out what is wrong,. thx 7Deadl Sinsgreed, gluttony, and wrathenvy, sloth, lust and pride —Preceding comment was added at 22:00, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
 * My reply here.

So,
(Re ) Your saying you dont want me to create any pages to wikipedia anymore? Why? What did i do? Am i blocked or something?

7Deadly Sinsgreed, gluttony, and wrathenvy, sloth, lust and pride —Preceding comment was added at 22:56, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
 * My reply here.

hey, about irredescent
Shes going crazy on me. Really, i didnt do anything wrong, and look at my talk page (bottom). Can you tell her to calm down and relax a bit please (she protected her page, semi)? I dont want to have an admin mad at me. Thanks,

7Deadly Sinsgreed, gluttony, and wrathenvy, sloth, lust and pride —Preceding comment was added at 19:26, June 24, 2008 (UTC)
 * You need to stop worrying about "playing" with wikipedia and start improving it. And for the love of all that is holy, get rid of that sig and use one in the preferences box if you can't remember to timestamp your posts. – xenocidic  ( talk ) 23:30, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

2nd opinion
As you've been dealing with him as well, do you have any thoughts about whether this is a good-faith editor going wildly astray or yet another 4chan troll? Having been sucked into about three simultaneous flamewars today, none of which involved me, I'm aware that my AGF levels are lower than usual so I don't really want to start blocking myself. – iride  scent  23:27, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I've been trying to AGF all day, and I tried to point out that he made probably 10 times as many edits about his signature than he has to mainspace articles. Could he one day become a good contributor? I don't know. An awful lot of myspacing going on, though. – xenocidic  ( talk ) 23:29, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Can I just point out how incredibly odd it is to see a user's sixth edit be a discussion, out of the blue, about Grawp? Metros (talk) 23:33, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes, and see his essay. Perhaps do some checking in the drawers. – xenocidic  ( talk ) 23:34, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Regretting that RFA yet, Xenocidic? It's not going to get any better than this. – iride  scent  23:42, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
 * heh - never! – xenocidic  ( talk ) 00:12, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

thanks
Im unblocked now. <em style="font-family:Andalus;color:black">The7 <em style="font-family:Andalus;color:red">DeadlySins  01:27, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
 * My reply here.

k, 2 questions
1. In Wiktionary, is there still admins and the samne rules as wikipedia? Because i am REALLY good with words, and im creating an account for there too. And 2. I made a page for my sandbox. The edits i make there, will they count against me if i make a lot of them? (ie disruptive editing). Because i still need to test things out, and i almost got blocked for that :(.

<em style="font-family:Andalus;color:black">The7 <em style="font-family:Andalus;color:red">DeadlySins  —Preceding comment was added at 01:38, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
 * No, go nuts in your own sandbox. Please paste your signature into your preferences so that you don't forget the timestampe anymore. I'm pretty sure wiktionary has similar rules to wikipedia. – xenocidic  ( talk ) 01:55, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

wow
Im in the wiktionary, and there is alot of words they missed that i know. They dont even have myopathy. How sad. But, im here to save the day!

<em style="font-family:Andalus;color:black">The7 <em style="font-family:Andalus;color:red">DeadlySins  01:53, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Enjoy. – xenocidic  ( talk ) 01:55, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Thank You
(Re ) Thanks for all the tips you have given me today. That should help me so I don't have to keep copying and pasting everything to my page!! Thanks again. America69 (talk) 22:05, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
 * My reply here.

My new page
What do you think of my new Userpage? America69 (talk) 22:36, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
 * My reply here.

Thank you from CHB
Thanks for taking care of User:Willknowles. I can't stand vandals especially those who do useless, lame, vulgar attacks on others... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chiefhuggybear (talk • contribs) 23:16, June 24, 2008 (UTC)
 * No problem. Be sure to let me know, or report to AIV if he does it again. – xenocidic  ( talk ) 23:19, 24 June 2008 (UTC)


 * After assisting with patrolling new pages for only two days, I quit! I applaud the both you for your patience. I can't stand little vandals and disruptive, people. Wheewww.. this is a side of Wikipedia I don't want to be a part of. I have got enough stress in my real job so, I am sticking to creating and editing articles! Great job to those of you willing to patrol new pages and be an admin! chiefhuggybear (talk) 01:17, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Don't look at me — I've never patrolled a new page in my entire time here... Incidentally, if you want to go vandal-hunting the first contributions of newly created accounts is an excellent place to catch the spammers and vandals, and far less patrolled then the IPs at NewPages, which these days generally get trawled by the Huggle net. – iride  scent  01:32, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Nonetheless, thanks to the both of you for your patience and work. :-) chiefhuggybear (talk) 01:35, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I only did new page patrol to trick people into making me an admnin! ;> now I just watch the attack pages for speedy deletion. anyways, building articles is far more rewarding. best of luck with that, CHB. – xenocidic  ( talk ) 02:19, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Accidental edit under IP
Is it possible to change this edit so it is registered from my user-name instead of the IP number? If so, feel free to do the deed at your convenience. Thanks! mdf (talk) 01:35, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
 * My reply here.

FYI
Another one in the drawer – iride  scent  02:04, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the heads up. – xenocidic  ( talk ) 02:17, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

VG Glitches
Relevant to an article or not? As in explaining in-depth on a vg article, with sources included, about a glitch that can be taken advantage of during gameplay or a glitch that renders the game unplayable. Just curious... -- Comandante    { Talk }  02:25, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
 * My reply here.
 * See here for what I'm talking about. -- Comandante    { Talk }  03:15, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
 * My reply here.

Status
Thanks for fixing the status thingy on my userpage...just noticed the change!, Best wishes --Badgernet (talk) 13:58, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
 * No problem. =) – xenocidic  ( talk ) 14:00, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Request for Rollback
Xenocidic, This may be too early, but if possible, I would love the Rollback feature added to my account. I have been using Twinkle a bit, but I would rather have the feature on my account. You've blocked a few IPs that I have reported (if that goes for anything :P). Anyway, tell me when to reapply if you can't give it to me now, or whatever.

DavidWS (talk) 19:38, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Hi David, I appreciate your enthusiasm, but it is definitely too soon to grant rollback; you've only been editing for two days. That being said, your recent reverts using Twinkle have been nearly spot on. (at least the ones I looked at). Keep up the good work and ask again/apply to WP:RFR in a couple weeks. – xenocidic  ( talk ) 19:45, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Hi, I saw your reply---after I request rollback on the RFR page. User:Tivedshambo added rollback to my account. Sorry for requesting it in two different places, I was just thinking I might as well put it on the "official" request page. DavidWS (talk) 17:37, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Not a problem. heck, if I had some more ground between me and my RFA, I probably would've granted it yesterday. Your twinkle use clearly showed high levels of clue, and I did feel a little silly asking you to wait a couple weeks before giving you a tool that would speed up your vandal-fighting work. happy huggling, – xeno cidic  ( talk ) 17:39, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

UBXn
(Re ) If they're not being used, feel free to delete them. I'll tag the rest once they're moved. Thanks for doing this. <small style="font:bold 12px Trebuchet MS;display:inline;"> RichardΩ612  Ɣ ɸ 17:57, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh, and yeah, I will go through updating the transclusions (that's what started all this, seeing redlinked userboxen). <small style="font:bold 12px Trebuchet MS;display:inline;"> RichardΩ612  Ɣ ɸ 17:58, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
 * My reply here.
 * OK, all transclusions fixed, feel free to re-nuke the pages! <small style="font:bold 12px Trebuchet MS;display:inline;"> RichardΩ612  Ɣ ɸ 19:44, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
 * My reply here.

What's the difference here?
The IP I just reported from Best Buy is a display machine. It hasn't been warned often so got off with a 1 day block. 198.22.123.103 is the machine right next to it on the same display table. It's been blocked for 6 months. What's the difference here? DarkAudit (talk) 18:40, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
 * It's already been blocked by another admin, I was just commenting on the edits. Sorry, just re-read your comment. I guess this one hasn't had as much vandalism activity, so the admin erred on the side of conservatism. the other one was blocked by Jack Bauer, and that guy doesn't fuck around. cheers, – xeno cidic  ( talk ) 18:42, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Welcome to Wikinews!
Im sure you understand most of Wikinews policy (as they are similar to Wikipedia) but here is the Wikinews welcome message anyway, delivered to your Wikipedia talk page as Wikipedia is your home project:

Xenocidic, welcome to Wikinews! I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers:

Our key policies - if you read anything, read these! Here a few pointers to help you get to know Wikinews: There are always things to do on Wikinews: By the way, you can sign your name on Talk pages using four tildes ( &#126;&#126;&#126;&#126; ), which produces your name and the current date. If you have any questions, you can ask them at the water cooler| or to anyone on the Welcommittee, or ask me on my Talk page. Again, welcome!Anonymous101 (talk) 19:12, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Wikinews:Neutral point of view - tell every side to a story in a fair and balanced way
 * Wikinews:Cite sources - everything in a Wikinews article must be sourced
 * Wikinews:Introduction - overview of the site
 * Wikinews:Writing an article - how to write and publish a complete article
 * Wikinews:Content guide - what's suitable for Wikinews
 * Wikinews:Style guide - how articles should look before publishing
 * Wikinews:Contents - the contents page.
 * Existing articles need expanding and checking for spelling and mistakes
 * The front page lead articles often need updating|
 * Developing stories need finishing and publishing
 * Discussions need your input
 * Audio Wikinews could always use more contributors
 * And of course, stories need writing!
 * My reply here.

Thanx for your help
Now my message page is being stupid but I just wanted to thank you for your help with the chess article. I tried it thru Firefox and you're right- it worked just fine. Thanx again! Lyzyrd (talk) 20:27, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
 * My reply here.

archiving
(Re ) I can take a look at the discussion, but it might be a day or two until I have time to go through it. Other than the posting on the Village Pump, has the discussion been publicized anywhere? -- &#x2611; Sam uelWantman 00:04, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
 * My reply here.

RfA
I don't wanna be the guy who brings this up, but I also don't want to see it turn into a big deal. Is this supposed to be, y'know, a counter-support for Kurt? Like a parody or something? (I'll admit I have a moderate case of paranoia, so it's probably meh brain getting all jittery. I'm drawing a bad conclusion, but I can't really help it)-- Koji †  Dude  (C) 00:24, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
 * It's a genuine support !vote expressing my opinion. – xeno cidic  ( talk ) 00:41, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Okay, just looked sort of funny. Sorry. Thanks for clarifying!-- Koji †  Dude  (C) 02:01, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

unblock-un requests
Just a note -- I saw your response at User talk:Dynotech, and in general requests to change username when the username was the issue don't need to be discussed with the blocking admin. Username blocks are normally intended to be non-judgemental of the user, only the name, so if they agree to change name they should be allowed to. (It is worth checking that there wasn't another reason for the block, such as vandalism or spamming. Sometimes people get blocked with the username block template when they really should be blocked for other reasons like test7 or spamusername.)  Anyway, just a friendly note, hope it helps. Mango juice talk 13:59, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes, that helps. I'll keep that in mind for the future and check for aggravating circumstances. – xeno cidic  ( talk ) 14:02, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Are websites with Google ads NOT valid resources?
(Re ) i also visit About.com which I believe has very valuable information (that is MY opinion only) and it is "plastered" with sponsored links. Are "sponcored links" the same as google ads by wikipedia standards? or does wikipedia believe that ANY site with these types of ads, regardless of the information, research or contribution of user desired information is not worthy of being noted?

Ok, maybe I am being ironic, sorry! but I feel that its kina dumb, I mean even wikipedia asks for money, i personally have a blog (with no ads on it) but its for personal expression only, and i don't put links on wikipedia to it.

personally I felt that Wikipedia should be a source of unbiased, uncensored information as long as there is no advertising (spamming) or garbage. but lets face it, the bios of Warren Bennis, Robin Sharma (books wise), and many others is basic PR. yet it seems to be no problem because people (including myself) are interested. and FYI, i never even heard of Warren Bennis (and many others) before going to the leadership gurus site, but i did appreciate the article on wikipedia about him.

the links i was placing was to a "LIST" of people you already have on wikipedia, PR for them or not, they are on wikipedia already (you can always take them off if you want, that is not my place). and whether the site has google ads or not, personally i don't care, i just like to know stuff like this, and thought others might too. also the idea of voting honestly is turn-on. i have heard about 6 of these guys speak (only one do i know personally, and he is not on wikipedia), some are boring some are exciting

so what do i do now, stand by the sidelines and let people tell me what i can and cannot do? what is right and what is wrong? or should i stand my ground and fight for what i believe in - freedom of information and expression, and the desire to give value to others? and keep on trying to give what i feel is valuable, and that would include an article on Arthur Carmazzi who personally think is a great man (but then again, that is my opinion).

can you please give me some real guidance and not just blow me off like some of the others.

Marcie

202.169.237.30 (talk) 07:56, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
 * My reply here.

got my account
hi Xenocidic

i got my account. i am passionate about Psychology and how to lead people. i have really learned a lot from these gurus, there books, articles, websites... i want to make a difference. i am still young and have a lot to learn and do in my life, knowledge is hobby and i want to share it. so how? honestly i don't do lots of research and dig deep into stuff myself, thats why i come here and other sites where the research has already been done. for example http://leadershipnow.com it is a commercial site, but it has sooo much great information in it. and it was voted #1 leadership blog of the year in 2008, wouldn't that be something others may be interested in?

in this day and age it is very difficult to separate anything valuable from commercialism, simply because much of the reason people come up with the good stuff is to make money. i personally think that John Maxwell's rank on number 1 is spot on, i heard him speak and the guy is truly a master, but the links go to his commercial AND religious websites. Who says he is the number one, don't know but i do believe. commercial status should that have any relevance in my desire to go to his commercial site to get info.

and in about.com, again, sooo much valuable information. do you know how much time it takes to find these things? it would be so nice if wikipedia could acknowledge that its followers, like me, could go to find lots of information. much of the criteria set seems to be related to historical fact. but new gurus like Maxwell still get the PR and commercial benefit without violation??? not that i am against it, i appreciate the links. just don't think there should be double standards.

as for the 1000 people voting on the bad leader on the leadershipgurus site, now you are being ironic, tisk tisk. i am guessing you read the criteria - http://www.leadershipgurus.net/leadership_award.html

also, what about proven methods like Directive Communication psychology, wildly used in asia, but not in ammerica where most of the wiki editors are, so they don't think its valid because they don't read asian newpapers and media. and they don't even want to look at the proof. i had a bad experience with this.

oh, by the way, i am living in asia, where are you?

also, what does Xenocidic mean?

sorry i rambled. what do you think i should do now?

Hotmarcie (talk) 05:19, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
 * My reply here.

submitted to the forum
Hi Xeno

submitted to the link you suggested.

beside that, what else can i do. i know a but most of what i know is not my own, it is someone elses ideas like Maxwell or Blanchard...

oh, and you name, not sure if that's good, i mean its strong and all, but what if aliens are not really invading and it just looks like it, then wouldn't it be bad to destroy them? i remember this really old black and white movie, don't remember the name, but it had this giant robot that was like the police for the universe. only remember the earth was saved because the alien got a message to the robot "klitu barata nicto" - do you know that movie? kinda makes you think.

anyway have a chipper day :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hotmarcie (talk • contribs) 12:38, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
 * My reply here.

Regarding Username Report for Yougonnagethacked
Hey Xeno, just wondering what your opinion is for a length of time to attempt discussion with a user about a (possibly) inappropriate username? Haven't really done this before, and I would guess that whoever does eventually block would use their judgement, but would like a bit of a ball-park figure for time before I recommend RFCN. Cheers &mdash; Relyimah(t-c-e) 23:36, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Hrm I'll admit usernames for attention isn't really my area of expertise, but from what I understand if a user isn't actively editing than there's no real cause for concern. If the user doesn't get back to you, and doesn't start editing, I'm not sure that any actions needs to be taken. Though, feel free to seek a second opinion from an admin more active at UAA. – xeno cidic  ( talk ) 01:57, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the feedback -- Username has been blocked anyway &mdash; Relyimah(t-c-e) 08:01, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
 * That works =). – xeno cidic  ( talk ) 15:18, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

Re: RADIOWP
(Re ) Thanks, and will upload to commons. By any chance, would you like to do a segment for the show? S.G. and I are looking for people do do new segments and I think you would have pretty good one. If interested, just drop me a line on my talk page. Red Thunder  13:22, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
 * My reply here.

RADIO WIKIPEDIA CALENDER
Please view Radio_Wikipedia which details reporter's days. <em style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;color:DarkBlue">StewieGriffin!  &bull; Talk Sign 15:11, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
 * By the way, if you don't want to do tomorrow's episode, change it to My Name. Thanks. <em style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;color:DarkBlue">StewieGriffin!  &bull; Talk Sign 15:13, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
 * My reply here.
 * I'll make an emergency ep in case. <em style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;color:DarkBlue">StewieGriffin!  &bull; Talk Sign 15:20, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I need to know. Would you like to do tomorrow's episode. If not, I will do it as I am now coming out of my WikiBreak. <em style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;color:DarkBlue">StewieGriffin!  &bull; Talk Sign 20:34, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
 * My reply here.

Just passing by and thought I'd point it out: you spelt Calendar wrong.-- Koji †  Dude  (C) 20:40, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

Radio Wikipedia Re-Design
Hello Xenocidic, I, <em style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;color:DarkBlue">StewieGriffin!  &bull; Talk Sign Listen, have redesigned the Radio Wikipedia main page. You may be interested in Radio_Wikipedia, as it details Who Reports When? and the current staff. I am sure you already know our uploading instructions, but that is there too. Just so you know: And before you reserve Tuesday, we have a new instruction. Anyway, Thanks and I look forward to your episode. <em style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;color:DarkBlue">StewieGriffin!  &bull; Talk Sign Listen 21:21, 27 June 2008 (UTC) PS: I understand you know this, but remember a 3 Minute Show is the max. PPS: I would also like to say, we won't use a system like X, RT, SG, X,... instead users will just reserve episodes the previous day.
 * Saturday 28 June 2008: Xenocidic
 * Sunday 29 June 2008: Red Thunder
 * Monday 30 June 2008: StewieGriffin!

User page protection
Sorry to trouble you again, but another question (not article related): is there anything to prevent me from getting most of my user pages semi-protected at WP:RFP? I haven't really had anyone vandalize my pages except once or twice a while back, but I don't want my watchlist cluttered by my own user pages and I prefer excess caution over unpreparedness. In other words, is it possible to ask for semi-protection for some of my user pages when there isn't really a serious reason to? -- Comandante    { Talk }  21:28, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm fairly sure there is no problem semi'ing your pages on request, just provide a list of the one's you want protected and I'll do it for you. You can also think about making a subpage-only changelist as I've done at User:Xenocidic/misc. – xeno cidic  ( talk ) 21:47, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Much obliged. Here's the list of all my user pages: . Just protect everything except the sandbox and the two monobook pages. I'll consider the subpage changelist, but I don't think I have enough pages to seriously need it yet. -- Comandante    { Talk }  22:37, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
 * ✅! – xeno cidic  ( talk ) 23:26, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks again, and here's a little something on the side:


 * I thought this one fits slightly better than a few of the others, and you've earned one in any case. -- Comandante    { Talk }  00:01, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Hey, thanks! While I cherish all barnstars, the RickK and RAK ones have been piling up! ;> – xeno cidic  ( talk ) 01:03, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

Hey, Its Just me
Hi! I was just wondering how do you put the little sub-cattogories down at the bottom of articles? Also how do you put pictures on wiki if they aren't already on there? And 1 last thing, how do you get those boxes in the top right hand corners of articles? Yzzug (talk) 22:01, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
 * My reply here.

dashboard!
Thank you! I just took a look at it (now that I'm getting the swing of things) and am loving it immensely! :-) Xavexgoem (talk) 06:26, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Glad you like it - feel free to let me know if you think of any ways to improve it. – xeno cidic  ( talk ) 14:56, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

hee
nice ;-) Tan   |   39  21:36, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
 * lulz, i wanted to check out the gov block. – xeno cidic  ( talk ) 21:37, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks (re: Template userfication)
(Re ) Thanks for the offer, it'll mainly mean CSD G6'ing redirects, but if I userfy a batch of them could I just leave the links here for you to nuke when you've got a moment? Thanks again. <small style="font:bold 12px Trebuchet MS;display:inline;"> RichardΩ612  Ɣ ɸ 15:05, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
 * My reply here.
 * Yep, will do. See User:Richard0612/userfied templates. <small style="font:bold 12px Trebuchet MS;display:inline;"> RichardΩ612  Ɣ ɸ 15:11, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

Xenocidic
Xenocidic? Really? Exactly who does that mean you wish to kill at the moment?The Evil Spartan (talk) 06:20, 29 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Ha, you should've seen his RfA.  Enigma  message 06:23, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
 * People opposed your adminship based off your username? I would think the cool Sci-Fi font you have going on would easily neutralize that. The Evil Spartan (talk) 07:47, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh, you know, any invading similarly-xenocidal alien species ;> Actually, the custom sig didn't come until after the RFA ;> so, evil spartan... not this one, I hope? =) – xeno cidic  ( talk ) 13:31, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
 * In fact, if I ever run for RFA, I'm particularly worried the Persian opposition and sensitive friends might spoil it. The Evil Spartan (talk) 22:00, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

Rpotd nomination
Greetings. On the template issue, perhaps you can help with my nomination of Template:Rpotd. I am somewhat at a loss with what to do with that mess, so the TfD nom was sortof a default action. Any advice would be great. Or you can go ahead and speedy the mess with a bulk tool. =) Thanks. --Thetrick (talk) 15:25, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Yikes - the RPOTD "father" template is linked on a great number of pages. On this one, I'd probably suggest "back away slowly" or "run in the other direction" (read: it can probably be safely ignored; perhaps withdraw the nom?). – xeno cidic  ( talk ) 15:32, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
 * True, it is all over the place (though less than 100 links/transclusions). But the effort seems dead and was non-encyclopedic to begin with.  And nobody has complained yet despite the visible nomination warning.  Is there a tool that can do bulk moves?  If all those RPOTD/xxx templates were in GeorgeMoney's namespace I probably wouldn't have made the nom.  --Thetrick (talk) 16:01, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I think that admins can move all subpages recursively. Let the TFD run I suppose and see what the outcome is. The only problem would be update all the usages, which would be a PITA. It is borderline encyclopedic IMO. – xeno cidic  ( talk ) 18:09, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

By the way…

 * My reply here.

Amazing!
(Re /) Thanks very much, I think it's working now!! ——RyanLupin • (talk) 23:39, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
 * No problem - enjoy. – xeno cidic  ( talk ) 23:39, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

Semiprotection
Hey. Can you semi-protect my userpage? it gets heavy IP vandalism. Acalamari did it before, but it seems to have worn off. Shapiros10  <sup style="color:chocolate;">contact me <sub style="color:#3D2B1F;">My work 14:00, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
 * ✅, it looks like some tweaks were done to your userpage for privacy concerns, and that's why the protection was no longer active. Keep in mind it's best not to disclose too much information about yourself. – xeno cidic  ( talk ) 14:03, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't take orders very easily, but I agreed. I don't like getting on the bad sides of admins.  Thank you once again!  Shapiros10  <sup style="color:chocolate;">contact me <sub style="color:#3D2B1F;">My work  14:07, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Just keep in mind that it was done for your protection; heck, even as an adult, I would never reveal my date of birth or exact location details on the Internet. – xeno cidic  ( talk ) 14:36, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
 * It's nice to see that all kinds of people care about be :) Shapiros10  <sup style="color:chocolate;">contact me <sub style="color:#3D2B1F;">My work  14:38, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Databarracks
Hi there. I just tagged this article with a speedy as the author requested it be deleted. Please see the talk page. If you did and still decline it then that's cool, i just wanted to check that you see the deletion request. Ged UK (talk) 15:10, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Right, I declined it as WP:CSD only applies when the only editor requests deletion; there's been some other substantive contributions by other editors. I did initially delete per G7, but then realized my mistake. – xeno cidic  ( talk ) 15:11, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
 * OK, no probs. Ged UK (talk) 15:13, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Of course, feel free to prod or AFD. – xeno cidic  ( talk ) 15:14, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

G7
I swear when I looked at the article history none of that stuff was there, especially not the previous G7 noms... that's the only reason I put the CSD tag on it. Is there anything that can cause the history to be "hidden"? I have no idea what happened... Livitup (talk) 16:43, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

You know what, never mind... I think I was looking at the article talk page history. :) Livitup (talk) 16:44, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
 * *chuckle*</nowikI> no problem. – xeno cidic  ( talk ) 16:45, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Rollback template
(Re ) Great, thanks! I was using rollbackgiven which was okay, but generally better for people who didn't know when they were getting it. :) Thanks again, PeterSymonds (talk)  15:42, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
 * My reply here.

User talk:Jon janes doesn't understand...
...why it's harder to set up a fan page here than it is on MySpace. Notice the account holder now says he's J.J.'s webmaster, not J.J. himself; but wants to be unblocked so he can set up his client's profile here just like he has for Facebook and MySpace. You want to do the declination honors this time, so he can see that we're all working from the same manual? -- Orange Mike  &#x007C;   Talk  16:59, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
 * My replies here.

Template
Hey, you created this template using bascially the exact same code as my template here. Next time, please ask or tell the person whose code you are copying. I don't mind that you use it, but it is always best to ask first! :) Malinaccier (talk) 19:13, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I robbed it from Keeper with permission, who robbed it from you (I believe with permission) =) I added attribution in a dummy edit. – xeno cidic  ( talk ) 19:14, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Haha! Thanks. Malinaccier (talk) 19:17, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
 * cheers! great template, btw. – xeno cidic  ( talk ) 19:18, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

UBX migration
(Re ) Good point, and thanks for the template. Quite a few of the users seemed either inactive completely, or not active enough to warrant contacting, but I suppose it's only polite. However, if they were created back in 2005/6 it can probably be assumed that they've been forgotten about. I suppose I'm just impatient and past experience tells me that I'm unlikely to get a response :P. Thanks anyway and I'll try contacting people and see what kind of response I get. <small style="font:bold 12px Trebuchet MS;display:inline;"> RichardΩ612  Ɣ ɸ 21:52, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
 * My reply here.
 * Heh, I could well see that happening, although the edit histories are preserved. I hope you don't mind if I nick your system (60 days/48h seems sensible, I'll need to log the UBXn somewhere...), it may cut down on my workload too, if people move them themselves (although transclusions will still need updating). Thanks again. <small style="font:bold 12px Trebuchet MS;display:inline;"> RichardΩ612  Ɣ ɸ 21:57, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
 * My reply here.