User talk:Xenth3rr

August 2023
Hello. Some of your recent genre changes, such as the one you made to Give Yourself a Try, have conflicted with our neutral point of view and/or verifiability policies. While we invite all users to contribute constructively to Wikipedia, we urge all editors to provide reliable sources for edits made. When others disagree, we recommend you seek consensus for certain edits by discussing the matter on the article's talk page. Thank you. Binksternet (talk) 02:54, 16 August 2023 (UTC)


 * Every single genre that you want to add to an article must be supported explicitly by a reliable published source. Please see WP:EXPLICITGENRE. Binksternet (talk) 03:08, 16 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Hey, thanks for your concern. I only just created an account on Wikipedia so I wasn’t entirely sure on how sources worked. But, with regards to every change needing a consensus, pretty much every song genre that I’ve changed had no link towards evidence or a quotation anyways, and when listening to the actual song that the genres link to, it’s pretty obvious that, for example, Sincerity Is Scary is an R&B and neo soul song whether you disagree with it or not. Xenth3rr (talk) 07:52, 16 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia editors are not allowed to analyze the songs and write down their conclusions. Rather, we tell the reader about the analysis that has been published in the media. Even deaf people can edit song genres successfully—listening to the song is not required. See WP:No original research which is a hard policy. Binksternet (talk) 12:51, 16 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Okay, like I said I didn’t realise that was policy because I’m new to a Wikipedia account, but that still doesn’t explain why most of the song genres that I edited didn’t have citations in the first place, and instead seemed like someone had done exactly what I did before you changed every genre back to how it was before. Xenth3rr (talk) 15:19, 16 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Yeah, the rules are not followed by everybody, so some of that stuff gets through. A few patrollers like myself will remove as much as we can find, but we can't be everywhere all the time. Binksternet (talk) 15:37, 16 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Okay, so if you want to remove as much as you can find, why revert back to genre descriptions that also didn’t have any citations instead of keeping the ones that I did? Seems a bit unnecessary in my opinion. Xenth3rr (talk) 18:37, 16 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Good question. Researching every topic every time I see a change isn't time effective. Many times when I see an unsupported change I simply revert back to what was there. Sometimes I revert further, going back to an edit made by someone I trust. Sometimes I quickly check a couple of sources to see what should be listed. When I see someone making a bunch of unsupported changes, I will lean harder on reverting them. Binksternet (talk) 20:53, 16 August 2023 (UTC)
 * I mean, how long do you actually spend on Wikipedia? I imagine you probably aren’t a fan of The 1975, if not even heard of them, so how did you come across me making changes? You were reverting at gone 3am after all. Xenth3rr (talk) 21:47, 16 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Haha, I'm on Wikipedia a LOT. For instance, right now I'm working as part of a production crew on a corporate video streaming event. I'm audio, and I'm waiting for other departments to finish their tweaking, which is why I have some time to look at Wikipedia.
 * I've seen the 1975 a couple of times on SNL, and I like the floaty character of their song "Somebody Else". Binksternet (talk) 22:31, 16 August 2023 (UTC)
 * So, if I wanted to make changes I have to find citations for everything? Again, just kinda bums me out when I see changes that don’t have citations and they don’t get picked up, but as soon as I make changes that probably make more sense than the actual ones with citations they get flagged by you straight away. Xenth3rr (talk) 08:51, 17 August 2023 (UTC)

September 2023
You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you change genres in pages without discussion or sources, as you did at About You (The 1975 song). Binksternet (talk) 23:51, 3 September 2023 (UTC)