User talk:XerossUK

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North Tyneside Steelband
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Speedy deletion nomination of North Tyneside Steelband


A tag has been placed on North Tyneside Steelband, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, product, group, service or person and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. Please read the guidelines on spam and FAQ/Organizations for more information.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the deleting administrator. BC108 (talk) 19:20, 16 January 2016 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of North Tyneside Steelband


A tag has been placed on North Tyneside Steelband, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, product, group, service or person and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. Please read the guidelines on spam and FAQ/Organizations for more information.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the deleting administrator. BC108 (talk) 13:27, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

January 2016
Welcome to Wikipedia. I noticed that your username, "XerosUK", may not meet Wikipedia's username policy because it appears that this account represents the company Xeros. If you believe that your username does not violate our policy, please leave a note here explaining why. As an alternative, you may ask for a change of username by completing this form, or you may simply create a new account for editing. Thank you. BC108 (talk) 13:48, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

My username does not promote the company 'Xeros' as theres no company called 'Xeros', its 'Xerox'
 * There is a Xeros as well: see Xeros Washing Machine and e.g. here. Note that I did not say "promote" the company but "represent" - Wikipedia does not allow names that imply shared use, which a company name account does. If the name unintentionally matches a company name this is still a problem because it would be misleading. Therefore, you should seriously consider changing the name as above because your account is otherwise likely to be blocked by an admin. BC108 (talk) 14:25, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

Thanks, I do understand but can you explain why I should change it as my name in real life is 'Xeros', how would this work?
 * That's a good question. WP:REALNAME suggests, in the context of a real name being used which is the same as that of a famous person, that leaving a note on your userpage may be sufficient. Writing there something along the lines of "I am an individual named Xeros, this account has nothing to do with the company of the same name" may well be sufficient. The purpose is to avoid any potential confusion plus any suggestion that multiple people may be using the same account - if your userpage assures everyone otherwise it should be taken at face value. Again, my advice comes with no authority - I am a regular user of Wikipedia just like you. BC108 (talk) 16:03, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

North Tyneside Steel Band
When North Tyneside Steelband was deleted the admin who did so cited both spam and notability as the problem. The article did not demonstrate notability but I believe it exists - I note, for example, that the band appeared on the BBC programme Blue Peter. FWIW, I reckon an article on this group can be put together in such a way that it satisfies inclusion guidelines (although bear in mind that I say that with no authority). There is no reason why you should not continue to create the article again in such a way that it satisfies inclusion criteria but bear the following in mind: if you have a conflict of interest in that you have some connection with the band, you are probably going to find it difficult to impartially assess what is and what is not notable and in such circumstances Wikipedia strongly suggests you avoid the subject; also if the article continues to get deleted it is likely to be "salted" which means that it will not even be possible to recreate the page any more. Therefore there may be good reasons to stand back and let someone else write the article (which they eventually will, if the subject is notable). BC108 (talk) 15:08, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

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Thank you. GSS (talk) 19:26, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

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Hi, thanks for message. I deleted your article because
 * it did not provide independent verifiable sources to enable us to verify the facts and show that it meets the notability guidelines. Sources that are not acceptable include those linked to the band, social media and other sites that can be self-edited, blogs, websites of unknown or non-reliable provenance, and sites that are just reporting what the band claims or interviewing its management. In your last version you gave references; one was the band's website, one was the letters page of a local newspaper (local news coverage on its own is probably not enough even if real journalism, letters or blogs certainly aren't), and a BBC video clip which might be suitable at a pinch. As it stand, I can't even see how the article meets the linked criteria such as record sales or genuine media coverage
 * You say, without evidence, that it is a registered charity, but there is no indication of what case(s) it supports or how much it raises.
 * it was written in a promotional tone. Articles must be neutral and encyclopaedic. Although your last version was a significant improvement. Examples of unsourced claims presented as fact include: they have been performing nationally... They can play a wide variety of music... Notable Performances
 * If you have a conflict of interest when editing this article, you must declare it. See also Best practices for editors with conflicts of interest.

It's not the worse I've seen, and if you want to try again, I'll post an edited version of the deleted text to a user subpage for you to work on, just let me know, but remember to declare any COI. However, you must read the information about notability linked above to establish that there is significant coverage in reliable, independent secondary sources. There are thousands of amateur bands out there, most of which don't meet our criteria, and unless you can establish notability, the article will not survive.

I'm not prepared to unprotect at present; the article should have been started as a draft anyway. If suitable text emerges, it's easy enough for me to unprotect to allow a move back. i hope this helps, cheers, Jimfbleak - talk to me?  06:48, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

Thanks, this makes sense. Is it possible for you to remove the whole page altogether so it deleted off google?and if you could also post that editors version so I can work on it in the near future Thanks. (XerossUK (talk) 08:16, 18 January 2016 (UTC))

January 2016
Hello, I'm Krj373. I noticed that you recently removed some content from User talk:Jimfbleak without explaining why. In the future, it would be helpful to others if you described your changes to Wikipedia with an accurate edit summary. If this was a mistake, don't worry; I have restored the removed content. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Please do not blank other users talk pages. Krj373*(talk), *(contrib) 17:12, 21 January 2016 (UTC)