User talk:Xfiles82

July 2008
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Oz Football Team 2008 page
Hi. Don't worry, there's no typo. I just haven't uploaded the images onto Wikipedia yet for those games. I don't really know when it'll happen, but soon, I guess. If you want to learn how to make and upload the images yourself, well here's a link to a previous message I gave to another user, who also wanted to know. (Talk:Australia_national_football_(soccer)_team_season_2007)

By the way, I'm not sure how I feel about the way you changed the titles on the page. You're entitled to make changes but, in my opinion, it doesn't look very organised. Perhaps you can add the added information for each match as a link under each title. Rather than in the title itself. Blackjanedavey (talk) 12:29, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Odd page moves
Hi there...can I please ask why you have been moving pages from X to Y, and then immediately back from Y to X? GiantSnowman 12:11, 30 September 2009 (UTC)


 * It's so non accented versions of people's names, or alternate versions, link to the actual page. This is both so some links which dont have the accents, actually link to the page and also so people who search for the names without the accents or search for someone's name as say, 'Steve Something' as opposed to 'Steven Something' are still linked to that person or place. I found it frustrating with some unusual 'red links' where one presumed there be an entry or some entry's that use the accents or certain versions of the name and so spelling, or versions of that name that may be familiar with may not find it. AND I didn't move proper as I recognise that the accents are also acceptable, deemed as correct and that some people may search or link pages with those versions of the name/place too. Basically I wanted to create what I saw as needed redirect options for those entrys. BTW It's the only way I know how to do this. If there is another way of doing this, then please direct me to it.Xfiles82 (talk) 09:58, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah, there's a much easier way! I'll use a fake article to show you. Say an article is located at José Acuña, and you want to create a redirect from Jose Acuna. Simply edit the latter, non-accented page with a code such as  #REDIRECT José Acuña  and save - much quicker, easier and safer! Any more problems/queries then just ask! GiantSnowman 11:39, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

November 2009
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Ivan Ergic
I´ll post that question at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Football‎ and let them decide, OK? FkpCascais (talk) 22:13, 19 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Ok and I guess I'm satisfied with your 'Australian Citizenship' addition. Xfiles82 (talk) 23:03, 20 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Sorry, please don´t think that I like revering you or something, but, we can´t really say "birthplace" for Serbia, because the place where he was born, Šibenik, was Yugoslavia, back then, but allways part of Croatia, thus, not Serbia. What Ergic really is, is a Serb from Croatia (remember the war there in the 1990s? Those Serbs of Croatia wanted to stay with Yugoslavia, and when that territory was back in Croat authority, many emigrated, as Ergic case...). So, that is why "birthplace" is wrong, but you can obviously see another word, if you find more apropriate. Sorry once more, and best regards :) FkpCascais (talk) 19:41, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

Regarding File:A-League NYL logo.png
I have removed File:A-League NYL logo.png which you added to 2010–11 A-League National Youth League with this edit, because it does not have a valid non-free media use rationale for the article. Please see Non-free content for the applicable policy and Non-free use rationale guideline if you want to address the issues. Thank you. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 16:22, 14 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Is [] wrong then? As it's labelled as complying with the non-free media use rationale you were referring to. Xfiles82 (talk) 05:20, 15 October 2011 (UTC)


 * The rationale in the summary section of File:A-League NYL logo.png is for the article A-League National Youth League. 2010–11 A-League National Youth League is a separate page and requires a separate rationale. If you want to use a non-free file on X articles, then the file needs X valid rationales. This is required by the policy at Wikipedia:Non-free content criteria#Policy 10c. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 08:15, 15 October 2011 (UTC)

Jan Versleijen
I don't trust official sites - I could have an official site and make all sorts of claims about my career, couldn't I? - and there was an AfD a few months back (I can't remember the link, sorry) where we found out that the guy had lied extensively on his official website, claiming to have managed throughout Holland and Iraq. If there are other available sources, why not provide them? GiantSnowman 15:54, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Just the issue is the other sites don't reference the year/time frame he was in those roles, they just say he was. E.g. One of the very articles listed in the present references, when his appointment was announced: http://www.smh.com.au/news/football/versleijen-strengthens-ffas-oranje-flavour/2008/06/24/1214073247602.html


 * "Versleijen, 53, has previously coached at club level in the Netherlands, Japan and across the Middle East, whilst his experience also extends to the Dutch national set-up, where he previously oversaw the under-17 and under-23 teams."


 * Here too, same thing: http://www.ausport.gov.au/ais/sports/football_men/coaches
 * Jan Versleijen (Head Coach)
 * ''"Jan joined the AIS in July 2008 as AIS Head Coach and is also National Head Coach for the Australian under-20 and Joeys under-17 teams. Jan has an extensive football record, having played top flight football in Europe and coached in the Netherlands, Asia and the Middle East.


 * Jan has coached the Dutch under-17 and under-23 teams and has had signficant international experience at senior and youth level with Venlo, Roda and Go Ahead Eagles in the Netherlands, JEF United in Japan, as well as clubs in the United Arab Emirates and Saudi Arabia."''


 * I'd reference either of those, but as you see no time frame mentioned for WHEN his Dutch national set-up experience was. It's really quite annoying as it was clearly a strong frame of reference for his appointment to the Australian position in the first place! His official site is the only reference I can see which does, so unless he's fooled everybody, including the FFA (Which is always possible) then I'd take that info on good faith?


 * Oh look no further than the Dutch version of his page? http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jan_Versleijen They list his brief Dutch set up experience, but it's listed as during 1999 not 2000 but for the same short period and it lists the Under 17s and curiously the Under 19s as opposed to the Under 21s, as being the teams under his control, during that period. I don't understand Dutch but as far as I can see via the format the Dutch version of the page has NO references at all, Dutch or otherwise! But one can presume, given Versleijen is Dutch that the Dutch language page would have to have a tad more info, but we can never be too sure I guess?


 * But I suppose the circumstantial evidence mounts up?


 * Sources say U17 + U23, his site says U17 + U21? Dutch Wikipedia (albeit unsourced) says 1999, he says 2000? These ate important differences. See how important proper sourcing is? GiantSnowman 17:25, 14 December 2011 (UTC)


 * I'm well aware of the importance of this conflicting information of proper sourcing generally, just was not aware of the official site issues. I was just presenting my dilemna and why I chose that source. I certainly would've preferred third party. There are surely Dutch language sources that could clear this up, but I can't find any and don't understand Dutch in any case. Xfiles82 (talk) 17:30, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

Youth available players
''These are all the 'Under 20' players, or those qualifying for the 3 designated under 20 places for this season. Both the Asian signings are also young enough, as was mentioned when they were signed - The official site backs this up''

Hi, I saw that you recently edited the First Team players section in the Brisbane Roar FC page. Your edits were the removal of the notation of "youth" availability.

Players under 21 signed for the first team filling foreign player spots are classed as over-age players. These players can be any Australian player within the age group. A-League clubs must draw replacement players for their senior teams from the Youth League squad, except under certain circumstances. Such would include severe injuries to over-age players where an injury replacement player is able to be signed.

It states that young enough players filling a foreign Visa spot are classed as "over-age players". You have actually put the notation of availability next to their names, which is the complete opposite of what is actually allowed. Secondly, you have removed the notation of availability from the players that are underage and available for the NYL from the first team, despite their not being any formal rule about those players being outside the availability. Thus, those home grown players in the first team under 21 come the 1st January of the year the NYL season starts ARE available for selection and should have the notation of availability next to their names. --Protenpinner (talk) 14:03, 15 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Fair enough, correct where need be, if you are sure you are correct. But in regards to the 'Under 21s' - A-League clubs are still required to sign 'THREE' designated Under 20s each season. The players who I removed were players who WERE in that category, like last season, but wouldn't be amongst the 'THREE' designated Under 21s this season - those others I highlighted WOULD BE. You are correct on the VISA players though and they can be removed.


 * But anyway, even if A-League clubs have more than three players under 20 in their squad, which is the case for some, like the Jets, they still would only have THREE players registered as 'their 3 Under 20s for that season.' BTW That rule is STILL in effect, as I recall Tony Poppovic saying Wanderers still needed to sign one more Under 20:
 * A-league The squad must also include at least three under-20 players.Xfiles82 (talk) 16:53, 15 October 2012 (UTC)

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