User talk:Xmouser

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I am replying here as I do not see the need for this to be in private. Please, again, read WP:EXPERT which says you are not above the requirement for verifiability, even if you were to prove your identity. Also read WP:NOR and WP:SECONDARY, which means we cannot take your word for it even if you were to confirm your identity, and cannot accept your information before it is published elsewhere, because we rely on sources that are at once reliable, secondary, and independent of the subject, which you're not. How do we know you remembered everything right? Finally, my qualifications are irrelevant as the WP:BURDEN lies on you to provide sourcing for the content in question. Jasper Deng (talk) 20:44, 3 November 2023 (UTC)

Space Mountain Soundtrack- Reply to Jasper Deng
Jasper - Thanks for the links. I understand your points on the various Wikipedia policies and the reasons behind them. With regard to the production of the original soundtrack created for Space Mountain at Disneyland, there unfortunately is not much in the way of sources that could or should be considered "reliable". To my knowledge it was never really academically documented and if it was, it did not include my input regarding the music production and therefore would be missing certain details and likely incomplete. So though I understand the Wikipedia policies, they can also eliminate first hand knowledge in situations such as this, which I think that is unfortunate - but I understand the sacrifice. My goal was to simply add further context to the subject.

As for the paragraph that was previously listed under the "Soundtrack" heading, prior to my edits, I think you should restore it. It has been there for years and contains all the information that has been the public knowledge of the basic facts. Even though it was limited on details, it was an accurate reporting. Being that it was an important development, not only to Space Mountain, but also in pushing the envelope to get music onto a roller coaster for the first time, I think it should require more than one person to decide if it should be deleted entirely.

Xmouser (talk) 23:34, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately, Wikipedia does not allow me to post a lot of my own first-hand knowledge of things I know very well about, for the same reasons I've enunciated to you. These reasons are also why we cannot keep the section as-is. There is also a conflict of interest guideline for anyone directly involved with any article subject, like you. But with that said, you are more than welcome to propose improvements on the article talk page (Talk:Space Mountain), and if you disagree with my removal you can solicit a third opinion. However, it is unlikely they will uphold keeping the content as-is. Still, though, sources don't need to be academic/scholarly in nature. The following might suffice for this case:
 * An interview of you or another production team member by a reputed media outlet, like the Orlando Sentinel or LA Times
 * A biography of you or another production team member that has already been published by a reputed publishing house (so not a self-published source like a blog, forum, or YouTube channel), though with the caveat of WP:PRIMARY if it is an autobiography
 * Official Walt Disney Company or reputed Disney historian website content
 * Anything else that meets our definition of a reliable source
 * Finally, note that I receive a notification every time you ping me, and I will respond accordingly, but that might not be for a while if I'm busy (like I have been today and most weekdays).--Jasper Deng (talk) 00:01, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your additional info and update, Jasper. I'll kook into your suggestions! Xmouser (talk) 00:12, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Hey, once again, it isn't necessary for you to contact me over email. Please stop doing so. The sources you provided appear to be WP:CIRCULAR, copying Wikipedia.--Jasper Deng (talk) 01:19, 11 November 2023 (UTC)