User talk:XmuratX

WikiProject Germany Invitation
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Your recent edits
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Armenian Genocide Recognition
Hi. The changes you did to that page were not discussed, and consensus was not reached, I am sure it will be reverted. In future voice your opinion and get rid of the prejudice that because you are Turk - all your changes will be automatically reverted. It doesn't help. The reason why your changes are reverted is that you decide to do some major change to the article without reaching consensus. Try to understand where other editors are coming from. Position of Turkey is different from any other country in the world, they not only deny genocide they also deny massacres and that nothing happened, all it was is war casualties - Azeris agree with Turks, but other countries basically all - agree that massacres happened, but that they don't qualify for the term genocide. Those are difefrent position and need to be under different sections. Steelmate (talk) 14:57, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Hey, now i made it as neutral as possible, all the countries not recognizing are listed under "Other viewpoints", i think that this is acceptable. By the way, neither turkey nor azerbaijan deny the massacres, they are even mentioned in turkish school-books, an ataturk said that these massacres were a big shame of the past. but they do not accept calling it genocide, because of turkish deaths. thats something often missunderstood abroad.--XmuratX (talk) 18:08, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Hi there... I made changes to avoid ambiguity as every other country (other then acknowledging) has different stance on it. Please find evidence on the Turkey and Azerbaijan stance, post on the article's talk page for discussion, and if you want to communicate with me personally please post on my talk page so I can be notified. Thanks! Steelmate (talk) 21:05, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

What is wrong with this statement: "Position of Turkey is different from any other country in the world, they not only deny genocide they also deny massacres and that nothing happened, all it was is war casualties" I am yet to meet a Turk, even an ultra-nationalist, who has claimed "nothing" happened. There were after all courts established right after WWI, Turkish courts, that found a number of officials criminally negligint, or guilty of crimes otherwise against Armenians during the war and some even hanged. How is this for pretending nothing happened? Contrast this with happened to Armenian assasins of prominent and ordinary Turks with last century. This self deception, mythology of so-called genocide so deep and ingrained that this reviewer, filled with such extreme racial and ethnic prejudice then comments on the impartiality of other contributers. While Turkish archives are open to all to see what really happened a century ago, it is Russian and Armenian archives that are closed. It turns out that in Turkey today one can discuss the issue from both sides, however heated it may be, but in Armenia, there is no discussion. Through Armenian efforts, freedom of speech on this subject has been suspended in some European countires even. Irony of ironies. What reality you think they are afraid of? It is the Armenians, the whole lot of them who pretend that their ancestors never started a war against their own countrymen, helped their very own country be invaded hoping to establish Greater Armenia on the lands where the majority were Muslims who had to be cleansed of course. This is not a matter of speculation, they were actually rather honest about their intentions and it is widely printed/disseminated. It is their brutal ethnic campaign that backfired in the end. No amount of hisotrical revisionism, no amount of hiding and denial and resolutions will change these simple truths.--Murat (talk) 17:36, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

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user:Kansas Bear
we know he supported PKK and ASALA with his contributions. his edits like converting Turkish city and folkloric names to the Armenian just his style. is there any undergoing work to stop his anti-Turkish propaganda?--Cupcaker (talk) 16:38, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

Europe 10,000 Challenge invite
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