User talk:Xoloz/archive8

Thanks!
Thanks for trying to talk some sense into those guys (which, sadly, was probably futile, but thanks anyway). Apparently, the guy who first attacked me for my 'obscenity',, was a sockpuppet of someone else. It'd be interesting to see if that other guy is one as well, but come to think of it, I really can't be bothered.

And thanks for welcoming me back! I won't be able to contribute as much as before, but I'll try to check in every now and then. - ulayiti  (talk) 18:04, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

RFA:BrownHairedGirl
Hi Xoloz, thanks for taking the time to vote on my Request for adminship. I have learnt a lot from it all, especially the friendly and and very constructive comments from those such as yourself who voted to oppose - I think you are right to be concerned about my low level of edits in wikispace, and am now inclined to withdraw my nomination. --BrownHairedGirl 10:20, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

WP:DRV and message
Thanks much for your kind response to my message; I greatly enjoy reading all of your erudite contributions, and the intellectual stimulation such reading provides is certainly one of the reasons for my continued Wiki participation. Thanks also for your "Undelete the history" "vote" at Deletion Review; I noted in my nom that I thought perhaps such disposition was appropriate, but I brought the article to DRV inasmuch as a request for "history-only deletion" is ostensibly best made to the original closing admin (the customs of pro forma decorum, I suppose), who hadn't (and hasn't) yet replied to my message to him. In any case, though, history undeletion is exactly what I thought appropriate, and so I'm once more gratified to see that my thinking follows yours; one always wants his/her mental processes to track well with those of someone whom he/she respects. Joe 17:31, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

Houston, we've got a problem.
Xoloz, I've hinted at this before and recall getting a response that left me saddened, but I'm going to try again. We at Wikipedia have a big problem, and it is that you are not an administrator. I'm one who dislikes the commonly heard plaint that "X not being allowed Y is really damaging to Wikipedia", because it attributes to editors a certain indispensability that is in most instances quite unmerited. In your case, however, it rings true. You're a better administrator now than many admnistrators will ever be, in all their embuttoned glory. I know that your instinct has been to refuse appeals of this type, but I humbly ask you to please kindly consider this request with a fresh perspective. I believe most people familiar with your work will find you almost absurdly overqualified for administratorship; while you have had disagreements with a certain few, I do not believe even they will deny the truth of this, differences of opinion in other areas notwithstanding. So the question really is, dear Xoloz, "Will Wikipedia be saved?" I.e., "Will you be administrator?" — Encephalon 01:52, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

If it helps, I would gladly co-nominate you. I've held you in very high regard for a long time, and haven't bugged you once about becoming an administrator...yet. You have a quiet competence in your approach to Wikipedia which honestly is in essence the model I follow. I'm also considerate of your feelings on the matter, so if you decline you'll never hear of this subject again from me unless you initiate it. Cheers, Syrthiss 12:54, 9 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Oh, for goodness' sake, Wikipedia is in no danger so long has it has exemplary admins like you folks guiding its destiny. I am a wiki-gnome, and that is all I ever wish to be -- however, I recently cajoled/annoyed Lord Voldemort into his RfA, so I now know how it feels to be on the opposite side of these exchanges, and I don't want you fine gentlemen to go away disappointed.  With a gulp, I concede.  Besides, all those folks I've opposed at RfA deserve a chance at me. :)  I am honored at the request, and amazed that I can unintentionally delude truly competent people into thinking that I know what I'm doing. Xoloz the gnome 16:25, 9 May 2006 (UTC)


 * begins to prepare a Monty Python-esque musical number --Syrthiss 16:44, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Damnit, I'd co-nom too but after Lar's you don't want too many nominators. Steve block Talk 16:50, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Hmmmm, maybe I'll just do a wordy support then. Syrthiss 17:01, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

Great Caeser's ghost. He accepts! . Thank you, my good fellow. Ok, one RfA nom coming up!;-) — Encephalon 18:59, 9 May 2006 (UTC)NB. I do not quite understand this latest oddity in the Requests for adminship—how precisely do editors who second a nomination render the subject unworthy?—but if Block is correct about the sentiment, then yes, perhaps a wordy support will do. But I have no objections personally to co-nominations: feel free to place one if you judge it appropriate. — Encephalon  19:09, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
 * I get third co-nom! Xoloz, good man! Haven't seen you around in a while, and it's great to see you heading up the admin path. Snoutwood (talk) 19:03, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
 * We're not supposed to co-nom? Oh, well... I guess I'll just have to give a strong support. Hmph. Snoutwood (talk) 20:02, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
 * I wouldn't quite say that you're not supposed to, but the practice is apparently frowned upon by some. IMHO, if you feel strongly about it, go ahead—a brief statement ought to do no harm. But that's just me.;-) — Encephalon 01:27, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

Sent you mail. — Encephalon 19:49, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

I have received no response (yet), but decided to go ahead, Xoloz; 'tis done. If you will ping my talk page once you've considered the customary questions, I will be happy to transclude and date it for you. — Encephalon 01:24, 10 May 2006 (UTC)


 * I've made a note that I am not co-nominating, to which I subscribed User:Syrthiss, who is of course, within their rights to contradict that inclusion and make their own comment. Also, Xoloz, if you are concerned with regards my statement, please don't hesitate to remove it. Steve block Talk 16:04, 10 May 2006 (UTC)


 * I welcome with joy any and all co-nominators: I think I'll get plenty of opposition all on my own (with my conservative track-record at RfA), so I'm not worried about phantom compliants. By the way, I finished filling the thing out, with my own special qualification, mind you. Xoloz 16:32, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
 * I've set the time and transcluded it. Man, I can't think of a stupider oppose than "too many nominators". (Oh wait, yes I can.) Good luck, mate! Snoutwood (talk) 17:00, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Not only haven't you gotten plenty of opposition, but you're well on your way to making Times that 100 Wikipedians actually agreed and voted to support something. Most importantly, of course :), you're the first person at RfA to whom I've given  strongest possible support.  Joe 22:51, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

The deed is done (thank you, Snouty). Xoloz, there is a redlink in your answer to question 2, and I presume you intended it to point to AFD 100 days. However, I wonder if there is another version I have been unable to find, as a text search of that document does not yield your praised moniker. An earlier version placed elsewhere, mayhap? Steve, I thought your statement perfectly sensible and acceptable. — Encephalon 17:49, 10 May 2006 (UTC)


 * LOL... I forgot, I was number #31 (!), which means you have to check the expanded list to see my statistics. I considered my rank another reminder from the cosmos that I work best when I go unnoticed. :)  I'll so note.  Thanks so much, venerable one! Xoloz 17:57, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
 * As always a pleasure. — Encephalon 18:17, 10 May 2006 (UTC)


 * I'm glad my statement was okay. :) Good luck! Steve block Talk 18:55, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

Psittacine Beak and Feather Disease
I notice you closed the DRV debate for Psittacine Beak and Feather Disease with the comment "Recreation permitted." What's your opinion on restoring the deleted edits at Special:Undelete/Psittacine Beak and Feather Disease (PBFD)? Petaholmes claimed in his deletion summary that they were copyvio, but I haven't been able to find any significant matching passages between the deleted versions and the page he cited. I've tried asking him on his talk page, but he isn't responding. —Ilmari Karonen (talk) 15:51, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for voting in my RfA!
Thanks for the vote in my RfA! I appreciate your comments on the nomination; it did not gain consensus but I'm glad I accepted it. Thanks! - Amgine 17:01, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

Assistance request
Hello again. If you have some spare time, I was wondering if you could help out at one of the articles I have on my watch list, namely Contrat nouvelle embauche, I have been trying to help out myself in recent weeks, with mixed results, as there appear to be two main editors involved with very different opinions. Unfortunately, I'm reaching my limit of usefulness as many of the references used are in French, so I can do very little background reading myself. I was hoping that you might ideally suited to take a look, being legal minded (it's the new employment contract), have more french than me, and are diplomatic as the current discussion is getting a little heated again, based on what a french source does or does not say. (Of course, feel free to have a look and run away :) Regards, MartinRe 23:22, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

You little...
How could you have not told me?!?! Oh, you're gonna get it now... the mop that is. What, you think an Admin that you nominated would threaten people? ;-) Good luck, although you won't need any luck to succeed. Cheers. -- LV (Dark Mark)  02:06, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Argh! Now I wish I had done some research before speaking. And I feel exactly the same way you do... I'll just stay in the background of the admins, continue doing the little things, and look up to you as my superior. Man, I feel as if I was duped! But at least I know we both feel the same way. Have a wonderful RfA... I had fun at the number 3 spot, but it looks like I won't have it for too much longer. ;-) -- LV (Dark Mark)  03:18, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

WP:CHILL

 * Nice tweak, that phrase had been bugging me for ages but I never found the right time / collection of pixels to replace it with... is informatic even a word? Probably not, so if you ever meet a Portuguese who claims to work in "Informatic Technology" then it's all my fault ;) Nice one, Deizio talk 20:49, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

Your RfA
Hi Xoloz. I trust that you'll always use your best judgement, which is why I support your RfA. So if someone accuses you of abusing your admin powers, I would hope that you'd stand tall and defend your actions.

As an admin, you may block users and protect or delete content. Depending on the particulars, this might irk some users--there are those who will attack you and make all sorts of unfounded claims. Even if you follow policy to a T, there are people who disagree with policy and will take it out on you. Think of WP:OFFICE. Danny and Jimbo do their best to protect Wikipedia's interests, yet people attack them for censorship and authoritarianism.

I hope that you'll do your best to do what's right, not just what others tell you. Good luck on your RfA, and happy editing! ~MDD4696 21:48, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

My RFA
Hi ,

Thank you for any constructive criticism you may have given in my recent unsuccesful RFA. I will strive to overcome any shortcomings you may have mentioned & will try & prove myself worthy of your vote in the future.

Cheers

Srik e it ( talk ¦  ✉  )  09:48, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

re: Miscellany for deletion/United States/References
Done. Thanks for bringing it up. Now, let's see if the decision survives review... Rossami (talk) 03:49, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

superthanks


Hi Xoloz - I'm very sorry to have disappointed your expectation in me, but it had become impossible for me to compromise my principles. I don't covet adminship at all, so it wasn't a difficult decision - I simply cannot accept misrepresentation and nonsense. However, I cannot tell you how greatly joyous I feel at the enthusiastic, wonderful support you expressed for me. I don't know how hard it will be to understand that your supports means extremely a lot to me. I thank you from my heart, and please let me know if I can ever be assistance or help in anything. Rama&#39;s Arrow 21:06, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks
Dear &mdash; Thank you for your support on my recent RfA. It succeeded with a final tally of 72/2/0 and I am now an administrator. I'll be taking things slowly at first and getting used to the new tools, but please let me know if there's any adminnery I can help you with in the future. &mdash;Wh o uk (talk), 29 July 2024 (UTC)

Templates for deletion/Log/2006 May 10
You are, to be sure, a user whom I admire for his logical reasoning skills. I wonder if you might, then, look at the 10 May TfD, to-wit, the Template:HurricaneWarning discussion; I write not to solicit your "vote" (or even your participation), but only because I wonder whether I was wholly out-of-line or off-base to have nominated the template. I can't reconcile its inclusion with sundry guidelines and policies, but I also understand that IAR and common sense counsel that policies and guidelines serve only to further the goals of the encyclopedia, and that, where such service is incomplete, we ought to act consistent with, above all else, the best interests of the encyclopedia. I have great confidence in your judgment, and I'd be much appreciative if you should, when you have a moment, let me know your thoughts... TIA, Joe 04:07, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

Congratulations
The community has expressed it's trust in you. Use your new tools wisely. :) I'd recommend being conservative especially at first, and re-read the policies before acting. Post any thorny questions or anything particulalry controversial on the Administrator's noticebaord, ideally before doing them! Otherwise have fun helping the place out. - Taxman Talk 17:40, 17 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Congrats! Syrthiss 17:44, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Darn! I got beaten to be the first to congratulate you! Never mind... Congratulations! I look forward to news of your wisdom and bold, decisive actions at WP:AN. :-) Kimchi.sg 18:23, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Congrats from me too! -- S iva1979 Talk to me  19:43, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

Nice going, mate. Good luck... Snoutwood (talk) 20:29, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

Congrats, Xoloz... soooo close... ;-) See ya, bud. -- Mark Neelstin (Dark Mark)  21:38, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Ugh... I was hoping you would have passed me so I could have said the same thing about you. Oh well, I guess I can take it as a great compliment that I was slightly above you... but none of that matters anyway (It's not some stupid competition). And no, Mark Neelstin is something else (not my real name). Sorry. As our wikilives have intertwined, I'm also sure we'll be seeing each other. And if you do have questions (not too difficult ones, now) don't hesitate to ask, and I'll try and steal someone else's answer and pretend I thought of it. It's an easy way to look smart. ;-) Oh well, See you around. -- Mark Neelstin (Dark Mark)  02:59, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

Congradulations! I am sorry that I voted against you. I really didn't know what was going on. I was worried that there were around 900 administrators, so I was going down the list, trying to pick the weakest links. When Daiz sent me back a message explaining to me about the adminship in further details, I realized that I made the mistake in voting against you. Good luck in your adminship! Yeah. Here's a request. Could you look at the discussion in the Shinkansen article? Thanks. (Wikimachine 03:59, 18 May 2006 (UTC))


 * Congrats from me as well. I have complete confidence in you; you'll be an excellent admin.  Cheers! Antandrus  (talk) 15:32, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

Congratulations, Xoloz! This was a long time coming... :-) --Deathphoenix ʕ 16:27, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

Congrats and LOL! I've seen you around and checked your contributions and, so far, yours was easily my most enthusiastic support. Let me know if I can be of assistance and, given your experience here, I'll do the same as needed! Congrats again! Radio Kirk   talk to me  16:39, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

Congratulations! A person with your democratic principles is a strong addition to the admin team :-) Haukur 22:20, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
 * No problems, and congratulations. Well deserved. Tito xd (?!? - help us) 06:51, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

"Class of 17 May 2006" fellow new admin thanks ;)
, thank you you so much for validating my RfA! I am grateful for all the supportive comments, and have taken both the positive and constructive on board. If I can ever make any improvements or help out in any way, please let me know, ditto if you see me stumble! Thanks again for your much appreciated support.

Deizio talk 18:07, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

Quick note - you were a pretty hard act to follow on the RfA page! Well done on your 'minship. Dei</FONT><FONT COLOR="#FF3300">zio</FONT> talk 22:49, 17 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Viva La Raza! Best of luck! Rama&#39;s Arrow 16:23, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

Aw, shucks, Xoloz. You're embarrassing me... :) I'm glad to see you an admin, and I'll keep an eye out for ya (two, when I can spare 'em), but I have no doubt that you'll do just fine. Best of luck, friend, and enjoy the shiny new buttons... Snoutwood (talk) 16:29, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

Congratulations on your new status. --Ton e  16:40, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

RE: RfA thanks
Congratulations, you truly deserve the AdminPowersTM, every last one of them. I also appreciate you taking the time to write me that personal message, I see all-too-many blanket "robot" 'thank-you's. Anyway, as to the comment I got on the RfA itself, if you hadn't have notified me, I wouldn't have noticed. It doesn't really bother me - what's the point in repeating the nominator? Anyway, I'm "dribbling my prose" (Okay, way too much GCSE English language revision here) so I'll bid you good luck! Regards, --Cel es tianpower háblame 17:25, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

Congrats
Congratulations on your promotion! And thanks for the personalized message. You're mistaken, though, in assuming that I'm a sysop. If I'm ever nominated for adminship, I suppose you'll have to use. Hmmm, I missed that TfD. Oh well. Good luck with the new buttons! -- Tantalum Telluride 17:45, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Holy Fazoo! Are you kidding?  Well, needless to say, a nomination is yours whenever you feel prepared, if you wish. :)  Flabbergasted, Xoloz 17:52, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Fazoo, it's no joke. :P Your confidence in me is flattering, though. I might have to take you up on that offer one day. -- Tantalum Telluride 03:43, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

RfA Thank You!
You're probably the only one who doesn't want to block me, look at my block log ;) And what do you mean by me having the tools longer than you? I've never had the tools :o --Rory096 19:12, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

Hey we're all equal
Admin non admin, Jimbo non Jimbo we're all one here. 28 days isn't too much of a difference, but I'm glad you finally accepted that you meet your own standards, congrats and if you need anything feel free to give me a shout (either here or IRC or something like that) -- Tawker 20:31, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

But some are more equal than others, as the saying goes
The trifecta is now complete: Encephelon, Lar, Xoloz. This indeed bodes well for Wikipedia. - <font color="#000000">brenneman {L}  05:11, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

Substituting deletion templates
Please don't forget to substitute deletion templates such as mfd top and mfd bottom when using them. See WP:SUBST for more info. -- Cyde↔Weys 21:41, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

Quack!
Slightly trivial, but I noticed you closed a Mfd which you voted in prior to becoming a sysop. Don't worry, I don't think you became an admin just to save Mr Ducky! :) Joking aside, I think it's a good idea for the closing admin not to have been involved in the debate, as I believe it gives a better impression. (maybe we should have a WP:AUTO for admins, for similar reasons?) Anyway, hope this feedback is of use, have glanced over some of your *fd closures, much impressed with you giving explainations for non-obvious cases, should hopefully reduce the load on DRV! Regards, MartinRe 22:57, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

By the Way
I don't know how to make a sig. Please show me. Raichu 04:10, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

Sukh's RFA - Thanks!
Thank you for your vote on my RfA. Unfortunately there was no consensus reached at 43 support, 18 oppose and 8 neutral. I've just found out that there is a feature in "my preferences" that forces me to use edit summaries. I've now got it enabled :) Thanks again. Sukh | ਸੁਖ | Talk 15:52, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

Speedy Deletions
Hi Jachin,

Thanks for helping out by tagging articles for deletion, but please be aware that "not notable" is not a WP:CSD, except in very narrow cases where people fail to assert notability. Please refer to the CSDs before tagging further articles. If an article can't be speedied, mark it with prod instead, for which see the policy page. Thanks!, Xoloz 19:47, 20 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the clarification. Most articles I speedy list are general drivel anyhow, I didn't want to go as far as db-nonsense it (which usually instantly draws a flame) so stuck with deletebecause|reason.  :/  Thanks for ze advice, will take it to heart.  :D Jachin 19:51, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

Smile :)
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has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling to someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Smile to others by adding {{subst:smile}}, {{subst:smile2}} or {{subst:smile3}} to their talk pages. Happy editing! — G .<font color="#666666">H e  00:27, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

Chronicles of the Immpmantropolis Zone
Did you remove the prod from this article? I put a speedy delete tag on the article, which you (correctly) removed, but now I see that your prod is gone as well. Did an administrator remove it, or did the creator of the page do so? --Charles 04:30, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

Re: "not speediable"
Google is your friend. Always be sure to check when you see a poorly formatted new entry that's more than a couple lines long. — May. 21, '06 <tt> [05:57] < [ freak]|[ talk] ></tt>
 * Ahh, but, notability aside, blatant copyright violations can be killed per CSD A8. Thus, the article was speediable, but for a different reason. I should have been more clear on that. — May. 21, '06 <tt> [19:42] < [ freak]|[ talk] ></tt>

Thank you, X!
Congrats on your well deserved adminship, dear X! And thanks for the too kind words you dedicated me - you had me giggling and blushing like a little girl... I hope we get to interact more inthe future. Kisses! <font color="#009900">P <font color="#00AA00">h <font color="#00BB00">a <font color="#00CC00">e <font color="#00DD00">d <font color="#00CC00">r <font color="#00BB00">i <font color="#00AA00">e <font color="#009900">l <font color="#FF0000">♥ <font style="color:#22AA00;">tell me  - 21:42, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

Gary Howell
Should this have been deleted?
 * A notable West Virginian. Lets Review.
 * SBA Exporter of the Year for WV 2003
 * Inducted into WV's GeneratioNext, 40 WV Leaders under 40
 * Award from the WV Office of Tourisms Motorsports Council for promoting the State Through Motorsports
 * Nationally Known Automotive Person in TV and Print
 * Car and Driver Magazine 2003, circulation world wide 1 million +
 * C&D Magazine SuperCar Challenge Winnner. Considered to be the best of the best tuners in the world
 * Mopar Muscle top Magazine for Dodge/Plymouth/Chrysler Products
 * Named a Mopar mover and shaker in 1999 by Mopar Muscle Magazine
 * Internet Movie Database
 * DIY Networks Tricked Out-SRT-4 Exhaust Episode
 * DIY Networks Tricked Out-Computer Episode
 * International Credit Card Fraud Expert
 * CBS Evening News
 * Wall Street Journal May 1, 2003
 * Japanese National Television Appearence on Credit Card Fraud
 * Lectures to groups nationwide on Credit Card Fraud Oct 31st 2:00 PM -  3:30 PM  -  How to Prevent & Reduce Losing Money to Credit Card Fraud

That is just the highlights--71Demon 15:37, 22 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the advice, and can get heated at times. I would like your support on the Overturn.  Overturn Thanks --71Demon 16:34, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

The edit war at Template:User Christian a few weeks back
Hi, Xoloz. I noticed that when you listed Template:User Christian at TfD, you said that it had been the locus of an edit war "over which all parties have acknowledged regret". I've been pretty busy lately with real-life concerns, and haven't been able to follow the discussion everywhere it's gone. Where has User:Gmaxwell expressed regret? I know that Cyde apologized, after a fashion, but last I checked Gmaxwell was still insisting that he was operating solely out of a concern for NPOV in template space and had nothing to apologize for. Did he apologize off-wiki somewhere? —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 22:24, 22 May 2006 (UTC)


 * I have no diff to give you. I don't read the mailing list, but was told that everyone had apologized there.  Really, my statement was more a matter of WP:AGF than anything -- if Gmaxwell still hasn't seen the error in that conduct, that would be... less than wise.  Absent evidence to contrary, I certainly hope everyone regrets it, as it was a gravely foolish edit war.  Best wishes, Xoloz 23:07, 22 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Fair enough. As far as I know, Gmaxwell hasn't expressed any regret for the edit war.  I don't really feel like pressing the issue with him, but I do think he's in a bit of denial about his part in the affair. —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 01:21, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

RFA offer
Re: PS. You and I both know that you should been an admin long ago, way before me, so anytime you feel up to trying again, let me know. :).

I was thinking about accepting a RFA nom before I have arm-surgery on June 13 of this year. Note I do have too many of them failed but I do need the tools for my work with copyvio images, and I did act very stupid in a couple of my prior RFAs but I learned from my mistakes so I don't know if it will pass, but I won't withdraw. Think about it and if you want to offer one, let me know in my talk page. Thanks Jaranda wat's sup 23:19, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

I left a response in my talk page, thanks Jaranda wat's sup 16:29, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

EWS23's RfA
Hello Xoloz! I was honored to have your support at my request for adminship. Your kind words really made my day, especially from such an experienced editor as yourself. If you ever see me doing anything that I could do better, please leave me a message. E WS23 | (Leave me a message!) 03:15, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

Checking in
Hey there, mate. Since you'd asked, I took a few minutes to go through your logs and see how you're doing. Just wanted to let you know that you're doing fine and you ought to be proud of yourself. Keep up the good work, fellow rookie admin :) See you around the wiki, Snoutwood (talk) 07:51, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

Category:Administrators open to recall
SPAM WARNING - quasi form letter follows! (#11) I'm attempting to open the biggest can of worms ever. You've already stated you'll hand the mop ini if asked, and are gnerally pretty thoughtful. Thus I'd like to hear your thoughts on the category I've just created. brenneman color="000000" title="Admin actions">{L} 08:01, 24 May 2006 (UTC) Post Script - With one exception I've spammed only "cronies" so if there are people whom you think will scream and shout about this, I'd like to hear from them as well.

Hello
I just want to say hi. Anonymous _anonymous_  Have a Nice Day  14:28, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

"Fixing" Afd

 * The version as you left it didn't work. I tried twice to fix it, when I realized I couldn't, I left it the way I found it .  I should have changed the edit summary the third time.  Looking back now, it appears you misspelled the page at the Afd2 stage and neither of us realized it. Thatcher131 17:53, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

Re : List of proper nouns containing an exclamation mark
Oh dear, please accept my apologies - I think I deleted it because I was clearing up and checking old AfDs, and thought the closing sysop for this particular AfD forgot to delete the article. Perhaps I should just notify the sysop the next time round. - Best regards, Mailer Diablo 10:37, 25 May 2006 (UTC)


 * I never closed DRVs, but I'll try for the first time round shortly. Be sure to let me know if you see the procedure(s) to be amiss. - Best regards, Mailer Diablo 16:15, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
 * All done. - Cheers, Mailer Diablo 17:47, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

Belatedly...
No bother, I'm glad you eventually stood, and I'm staggered I was the first to ask you. You don't have to worry about making me proud, just do your best. I'm no wiki god. And thanks for the offer of help, but I'm slowly trying to pull back into what I like doing rather than what I feel obligated to do. All the best, anbd congratulations, belatedly. Steve block Talk 21:54, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

Philip Sandifer
You state that if you know that some action will be contentious, if you are aware of it, if everyone tells you so, you would still do it? Do you consider that to be responsible behaviour, expected of an administrator? Kim Bruning 11:44, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
 * So We Don't Do That. :-)


 * I think it's a good idea to get rid of the whole smelly situation in the most expeditious manner possible. What do you propose? Kim Bruning 12:22, 26 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Fair enough. I've caught a mild case of Adminitis over this, as you have probably noticed most clearly. :-( My apologies. I'll go do something else where I don't get as stressed for a bit. :-) Kim Bruning 16:11, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia isn't a bureaucracy
Remember WP:ENC? Wikipedia isn't a bureaucracy. It isn't necessary to undelete crap and bring it back through the deletion processes. We have the chance here to leave all of the ridiculousness of government bureaucracy behind and make something better. -- Cyde↔Weys 17:36, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

Re: Sandifer DRV
That might have gone over my head a bit, I confess, but it seems to me that A7 was simply misused in deleting the article (the misuse of WP:SNOW came later), and the whole wheel war that partially resulted from people not following A7 made this seem much more dramatic and controversial than it really should have been. I don't think he meets WP:BIO, and I might have said that on an AfD... this whole thing is (to me) needlessly backwards and awkward. I just don't get how it benefits the community to speedy delete out of process. It doesn't seem to have helped here.

If we say it's okay to speedy delete highly controversial, but disliked, articles... I think that's a bad precident. We can speedy delete an article about a Wikipedian because it probably doesn't meet WP:BIO, but we can't speedy delete an article about a Wikipedia critic for not meeting WP:BIO, for example. Something just seems rotten here. --W.marsh 18:06, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

Barnstar
Xoloz, thank you for your kindness! It arrived at a low moment and has turned it into a good one. SlimVirgin <sup style="color:purple;">(talk) 20:38, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

Question
Xoloz (what is your real name btw?), you mentioned in your rfa 'thank you' that you'd nominate me for admin. I'm curious, what skills do I offer that would be improved by getting the sysop flag? Right now, I've no plans to go for sysop as the work I do is mostly non-admin (bar some WP:SPLICE and WP:RM related stuff - I like the "technical" stuff), and I feel that not being an admin is more of andvantage than being one (I have seen too many arguement quoting "admins say this" so me saying (as a non-admin) helps) I would like to think that people appreciate me are because of my calm reasonable comments, rather than having a flag, and I'd worry that having that flag might reduce the effectiveness of my comments to some. I was quite chuffed recently both Reflex Reaction backed up your nomination for admin (considering I recently disagreed with him over Infobox_University and also D-Day's comment who said I was "polite, yet assertive", even if he disagreed with me.

I personally have no doubt I'd make a good admin, but my concern is whether I'd be better staying as a respected non-admin (am I one?) than going for an rfa. As a reluctant admin yourself, (as splash left) i'd like your input. It doesn't help that many of the long term admins seem to have deveolped a "admin's opinion is more worthly" which deeply worries me. I've seen too many A vs B conflicts where the "winner" is who is an admin, regardless of who was civil or correct. Oh, you're also invited to join the User_talk:Ashley_Y experiment for my curiousity, and see my "Reportcard", which is my personal contribution to accountancy on wikipedia and Category:Administrators open to recall, even if I'm not one. Regards, MartinRe 23:13, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

Regarding the Juggernaut
Hi, you restored the wrong version of the page, go back a few edits there's a wikified version of it. Mineralè 05:30, 28 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Ok nevermind, the cache did not uplaod I thought it was your version --> most the votes seem to reverste the article, keep in mind to go back to the wikified version, thanks Mineralè 05:41, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

I'm Back, Somewhat!
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Possibly Contoversial Action Alert
Per the DRV and a few requests ion IRC I've unprotected and restored The_Juggernaut_Bitch to allow for editing as it appears there is more than marginal support for deletion there, I hope you don't mind -- Tawker 05:34, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

MfD
No problem. --F a ng Aili talk 16:40, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Oh, just so you know, I speedied it because someone put a speedy tag on there, and I considered it ok to speedy. But if you'd like to consider the matter through a MfD, that's fine. --F a ng Aili talk 16:41, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

AN
I have, btw, been working on a reply to your excellent analysis of the Template:HurricaneWarning TfD, for the tardiness of which I will apologize profusely. In the meanwhile, though, you may want to look at Administrators' noticeboard; your undeletion, and subsequent deletion, of Talk:Ancient Roman units of measurement/Hexadecimal metric system is discussed. Perhaps I don't properly appreciate the surrounding circumstances, because everything you did seems eminently reasonable, but one man's reasonable action is another's savage deletion, I suppose. Joe 19:25, 30 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Yes, User Xoloz. I think so, unhappily a "savage deletion". -- Paul Martin 19:34, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

Deletion standards
Just out of curiosity, why did you decide to salt the earth (with a protected "deletedpage" template) behind Billion pool and Trillion pool? That's a step usually reserved for pages which have been repeatedly recreated. I don't see any evidence that anyone had violated the deletion policy on these two pages. Wondering what I missed... Rossami (talk) 01:44, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Hmmm... Given the sockpuppetry, I can understand your concern.  That's probably reason to keep it protected until they lose interest and go away.  Fighting vandalism is a goal in dynamic tension with our goal of open-editing.  May I recommend going back to the articles in a few months to undo the protection?  That would seem to meet your goal while also supporting our policy of protecting pages for the minimum reasonable time.  I'll agree to watchlist the two pages and will join you in the vandalism-watch to make sure that the pages aren't re-abused.  Thanks for taking the time to explain your thoughts.  Rossami (talk) 12:53, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

Delte the policy
I have given you orders. Do it, private!- G a  n  g  staEB  (at war)-02:18, 31 May 2006 (UTC)