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A new - old - one for your enjoyment
Hello X. I hope you are well. I just stumbled on this treat from RBS. I saw it a couple times back in the mid 80's but haven't had a chance to rewatch it yet to see if my rosy memories still apply. It is 110 minutes long so you or any talk page watchers will need to set aside some time to enjoy it. Best regards. MarnetteD&#124;Talk 19:36, 12 June 2019 (UTC)


 * Well, at least we are both bringing culture to this talkpage. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 19:44, 12 June 2019 (UTC)


 * You have that right :-) MarnetteD&#124;Talk 19:47, 12 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Btw you two, if you think there's something good missing at Cultural_references_to_Hamlet, please add it. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 20:08, 12 June 2019 (UTC)
 * I'll have to think about any paintings that are out there . I am of an age where bits of the episode of Gilligan's Island where they turned Hamlet into a musical will probably be with me to my last day. Only proceed with this if you want Belle nuit, ô nuit d'amour changed forever :-) Cheers. MarnetteD&#124;Talk 18:13, 13 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Sweet! Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 19:03, 13 June 2019 (UTC)
 * You have eerie extrasensory powers of perception, or possibly a direct line to my cerebellum! A production that opens with the then-current popcultural reference to the Letters of Junius (which inspired Malone, Grattan, and Flood to write the contemporary Baratariana in the same style), and within minutes introduces Sir Nigel at his very snarkiest ("Sneer", indeed). This is pure gold!I opened the link blind, thinking this was a modern (20th-century) work, and immediately marvelled at how pitch perfect the tone and language was for late-18th-century England, before I realised this was Sheridan. You wouldn't bat an eye to find this in Malone's published works or his letters, Dr. Johnson's periodicals work, or even the letters of Horace Walpole (I'm afraid I can't speak to his novels).PS. an apt demonstration of why popculture references should best not be sneered at: the Letters of Junius in The Critic is Sheridan engaging in such, and figuring out which bits of Shakespeare's stuff is similarly topical is an outright obsession among Shakespeareans (mainly for dating the plays, but still). --Xover (talk) 10:54, 16 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Oh, and I see Frank Barrie in there; but Gielgud slipped by unnoticed until the credits! --Xover (talk) 14:31, 16 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Another master at work at 6:00 here . Major shakespearegasm. Hm, did I just invent a new word? It's a portmanteau of Shakespeare and skarsgasm. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 15:00, 16 June 2019 (UTC)
 * I am glad that you were impressed Xover and it looks as though there is even more to enjoy then I remembered. I will be moving it up my "too see" list for the week. Thanks so much for sharing your thoughts on the production. MarnetteD&#124;Talk 19:20, 16 June 2019 (UTC)
 * My stars and garters it is much better than I remembered X. A pleasure to see Rosemary Leach and Anna Massey along with so many others. The framing device of locking Sheridan in a room until he finishes the play is a nice touch. I can only thank the people who upload shows like this to YouTube so that I get the opportunity to see them again. MarnetteD&#124;Talk 00:16, 20 June 2019 (UTC)

Quiz
I read that you use your thumbs for yes-no questions. Here is an enjoyable exercise for them that may brighten your day. Which famous newspaper editor took issue with the statement that newspaper editors were an aloof crowd that "rarely if ever [&hellip;] find themselves down among the blood and heat where the libel actions grow"? Jonathan de Boyne Pollard (talk) 09:31, 5 July 2019 (UTC)
 * The premise is flawed: The Signpost is not a newspaper so there can be no question of privilege, qualified or not. And if any actual journalist had been accused of writing that piece, wherever it was published, they would have sued the accuser for libel. --Xover (talk) 12:49, 5 July 2019 (UTC)

You deserve this
With a better beer though. Ringnes perhaps? Till topps! I like Kilkenny, myself. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 14:14, 31 August 2019 (UTC)

Books & Bytes – Issue 35, July – August 2019
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Issue 35, July – August 2019 
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 * Wikimedia and Libraries User Group update
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Precious anniversary
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 * Thank you so much Gerda. I can speak for nobody else, but for myself your work on this may quite possibly be the most impactful single effort on the project. Forced to choose I would rate it more critical than NPP entire! It is very very much appreciated! --Xover (talk) 10:59, 4 October 2019 (UTC)


 * Thank you, blushing, but my work on this would not have been happened without those who began (2007) and continued, - Rlevse the longest. I miss him. We block and desysop the wrong people ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:14, 4 October 2019 (UTC)

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Cultural references to Ophelia
Like the Othello-rose, I couldn't actully find a source stating that 171 Ophelia was named after the Danish girl. So if you have one. NASA was helpful with the moon.

Also, per Ophelia: "Unlike virtually all Hamlet characters, Ophelia's name is not Danish." They don't sound very Danish. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 18:19, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Recall that -(i)us is typical of Latin-ization of names in official contexts, and the original legend Shakespeare mined for this was passed down through the 13-century Gesta Danorum that was written Latin. Claudius could be from Klaus or Claes, Polonius from Poul, and so forth. But I don't think it's true that the majority of these are Danish, or at least not originally Danish. Gertrude is obviously germanic. Rosenkrantz and Guildenstern are German and Dutch imports (granted there are a lot of those in .dk and .se nobles). Marcellus, Barnardo, Francisco, and Reynaldo are Italianate. And Fortinbras doesn't even resemble any Scandinavian name. --Xover (talk) 06:53, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Recall that -(i)us is typical of Latin-ization of names in official contexts, and the original legend Shakespeare mined for this was passed down through the 13-century Gesta Danorum that was written Latin. Claudius could be from Klaus or Claes, Polonius from Poul, and so forth. But I don't think it's true that the majority of these are Danish, or at least not originally Danish. Gertrude is obviously germanic. Rosenkrantz and Guildenstern are German and Dutch imports (granted there are a lot of those in .dk and .se nobles). Marcellus, Barnardo, Francisco, and Reynaldo are Italianate. And Fortinbras doesn't even resemble any Scandinavian name. --Xover (talk) 06:53, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Recall that -(i)us is typical of Latin-ization of names in official contexts, and the original legend Shakespeare mined for this was passed down through the 13-century Gesta Danorum that was written Latin. Claudius could be from Klaus or Claes, Polonius from Poul, and so forth. But I don't think it's true that the majority of these are Danish, or at least not originally Danish. Gertrude is obviously germanic. Rosenkrantz and Guildenstern are German and Dutch imports (granted there are a lot of those in .dk and .se nobles). Marcellus, Barnardo, Francisco, and Reynaldo are Italianate. And Fortinbras doesn't even resemble any Scandinavian name. --Xover (talk) 06:53, 17 July 2019 (UTC)


 * Excellent. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 07:11, 17 July 2019 (UTC)


 * Something you may want to look and/or sigh at: Shakespeare and YouTube.
 * I found some indication that Ophelia is unusually popular (for a Shakespeare-heroine with not that many lines) in pop-cult/whatever, maybe that should be expanded on, somehow. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:57, 17 July 2019 (UTC)


 * This may or may not be an improvement, putting it here in case you have an opinion on it. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 19:02, 8 November 2019 (UTC)

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Books & Bytes – Issue 36
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God Jul och Gott Nytt År!
 ''User:Gråbergs Gråa Sång is wishing you the season's greetings. Whether you celebrate your hemisphere's solstice or Christmas, Diwali, Hogmanay, Hanukkah, Lenaia, Festivus, or the Saturnalia, this is a special time of year for (almost) everyone.

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