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Strasburg, Virginia
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 * The information you have readded was added by someone within the Strasburg City Government. Since that took place, all of the information must be completely re-written because of a conflict of interest. -  NeutralHomer  T:C 02:43, 23 November 2007 (UTC)


 * The 204.111.x.x to 204.111.127.x IP range belongs to Shentel, an ISP the serves commercial, educational, and residential customers in Shenandoah County and surrounding areas. It does not differentiate between the type of customer, and their users share the same dynamic IP pool. Removing edits that fall within this range would not only remove possible changes done by town/government employees, but by everyday citizens of the town and county which I believe a majority of the edits fall under.


 * In fact, most of the 204.111.x.x edits are mine before I registered a Wikipedia username or when I wasn't signed in.--Xsosx (talk) 04:39, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Riiiiiight. The information was posted by someone from the Strasburg City Government, so it has to stay off due to a conflict of interest unless it is completely rewritten.  Sorry, those are the rules, we can't have conflicts of interest in articles.


 * But to be perfectly honest, if it was written by Joe Schmoe, most would be removed because it isn't necessary.


 * We normally don't list each and every single person who is on the City Council, unless we are talking about NYC or LA (even then I don't think it happens). Also, going into three paragraphs of detail about how a town elects it's City Council is just silly.  Most Americans understand the election process and since it is no different in Strasburg than it is in Strasburg, Colorado, it isn't necessary.


 * Having the Northern Virginia Daily listed would probably be allowed, but saying that WHSV and WVPT, along with the DC stations serve the town is silly, they serve hundreds of communities, don't make them part of the article and doesn't make them part of the town.


 * Listing who the state senators and representatives are, is again, silly. Webb and Warner are senators for all of Virginia, doesn't make them part of the article unless they were actually from the town.  Goodlatte serves from Shenandoah County to Roanoke...doesn't make him notable enough to be part of an article for Strasburg.  Now, listing the Members of the House of Delegates who serve Shenandoah County is good, but you need to add them to other pages (within the County) as well.


 * As for schools, I will let you have that one since most towns include their schools (if you made pages for them, they would probably get struck down) but mentioning them is cool.


 * Now, what you should work on is the history of Strasburg (be careful with copy vios when doing so) and expand that section. With the massive history the Valley has, that section should be huge.  Take a look at how the article about Flagstaff, Arizona is written.  This is an excellent example of how an article about a town or city should be written.  Pictures are great additions to any section and can help tell your story better.


 * If you need help, I will be more than happy to assist you in making sure you don't have any copyright violations, your images have proper Fair-Use Rationales, and that you don't have any conflicts of interest.


 * We have alot of rules here, sometimes they are confusing, but they are here for a good reason. Let me know if you have any questions.  Take Care and a Happy (belated) Thanksgiving.... NeutralHomer  T:C 05:14, 23 November 2007 (UTC)


 * I am not employed by the town, nor have I ever been. Even if they sections I added are inappropriate for the article, please explain how they were added by members the town government when I was the one who did so.


 * The media and education sections were based off of the Charlottesville, Virginia article. I am going to add the education section back since you said it was okay, as well as adding the mayor and town manager back to the info box.


 * Thanks for the criticisms.--Xsosx (talk) 20:59, 23 November 2007 (UTC)


 * All I can tell you is that the IPs come back registered to "ShenTel/Strasburg City Government". Perhaps they are registered that way, I am not sure.  It's just that since they look like they came from the Strasburg City Office, it might be look like they are editing their page.  Which is why we ask people to make accounts and edit with them.  When what is written by those IPs is readded, it still looks weird.  It is one of those legal things.  After the whole Wikiscanner thing came out, and it was found out that towns, companies, and people were edited articles about themselves, we have had to be really careful on edits made by IPs.


 * The media section is well written, it is just that only one "outlet", the Northern Virginia Daily, comes from Strasburg. The rest are all over.  After I wrote that last night though (and coming out of my "turkey coma") you could add WVPY back since their tower is located on Signal Knob in Shenandoah County, which can be seen (very well) from Strasburg (even though it is licensed to Front Royal).


 * Also, I would check with the town office or the county office and get some history on the town. If there is a historical society in town, check with them too.  A good history section is always a great start for any article.  Pictures also help in telling your story.  If you need help with the pictures, please let me know.


 * I am going to tag the talk page with a WP:VIRGINIA banner showing it is part of the Virginia WikiProject. This doesn't do anything but make it part of a WikiProject that is monitored by VA residents and people with knowledge of Virginia history....they can help out in the building of your article.


 * Again, if you need any assistance, please feel free to contact me on my talk page or here. Take Care and Have a Good Weekend... NeutralHomer  T:C 03:23, 24 November 2007 (UTC)