User talk:Xurizuri

I will tend to avoid looking at messages for quite a while. It may take me a month or more to respond to anything.

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Feel free to drop a note on my talk page if you have any problems. I wish you all the best on your wiki voyages!

Even though I am a psychologist, I have found WP:MED to be much more active, and therefore much more helpful to me as I've learned the ropes. Feel free to ask me any questions. All the best - Mark D Worthen PsyD (talk) [he/his/him] 15:53, 27 December 2020 (UTC)


 * From your user page, it sounds like you might also be interested in joining the small group of editors at WikiProject Disability. WhatamIdoing (talk) 00:42, 11 January 2021 (UTC)
 * oops I thought I already had. Thank you for the reminder!

Talk:Invasion of Poland
Typos now fixed - thanks for pointing them out.Nigel Ish (talk) 10:38, 1 January 2021 (UTC)

Quick note
Hey, just saw your message on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Medicine/Psychiatry task force, and went ahead and created User:Xurizuri/Gender differences in ADHD for you to use as a sandbox/playspace to get it sorted out how you want it to look, etc before officially making it a new article. That way it'll look impressive when people first become aware of it ;) I think just calling it "gender differences" is better than "women and..." since then you'll have people pointing out we don't have "men and..." articles, etc. HLPD (talk) 19:46, 8 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you for doing that! That's a good alternate name, I was struggling with it. --Xurizuri (talk) 04:08, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Be aware that medical/health topics are held to a high standard for what qualifies as reliable source references. See WP:MEDRS for guidelines. David notMD (talk) 14:29, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Also, consider improving Epidemiology of attention deficit hyperactive disorder or the Epidemiology section of Attention deficit hyperactive disorder rather than a separate article. Or else copy content and refs from those to put in your draft. (copying within Wikipedia is allowed as long as the Edit summary is explicit in where content was copied from.). P.S. My daughter diagnosed as ADHD, so familiar with the situation firsthand. David notMD (talk) 14:37, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

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Jordie Albiston
Hi,

You were correct about this page in your comment to me on the Typo Team Moss project. The brackets weren't for an acrostic, they were just for lower case letters. I must have been doing two things at the same time when I wrote that. I removed the remaining brackets because they aren't in the titles. Thanks.

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Metaxyonycha/Colaspis
Hi, I noticed you edited Metaxyonycha just now. The species lists in this page as well as Colaspis (and other Eumolpinae pages) are largely from my own divings into the literature for the species involved, so if there's any real mistake it's my fault.

Apart from that though, I tried to explain in the articles themselves for these two, but the two genera were apparently historically confused. It seems in 1950, Jan Bechyné took Metaxyonycha as being a synonym of Colaspis in 1950, based on Colaspis testacea Fabricius, 1801 as the type species for Colaspis, while moving all the species of Colaspis itself into a new genus named "Maecolaspis" based on the type species Chrysomela flavicornis Fabricius, 1787. However, it turns out Bechyné actually got it wrong, as in fact Chrysomela flavicornis is the correct type species for Colaspis, so Maecolaspis is a synonym of Colaspis and "Colaspis" as defined by Bechyné is actually Metaxyonycha.

From the above I assumed anything referring to Colaspis from 1950 onwards in Bechyné's publications actually was Metaxyonycha, including the entire species checklist in "Notas sobre el género Colaspis (Col. Phytophaga Eumolpidae)" by both Bechynés in 1960. Unfortunately, I'm not sure how much of that can be considered original research or not. Even worse, I don't think the mixup between the two genera has been fully fixed even now. It's all a big mess and I wish there was at least some complete uptodate checklist with all the names corrected, but sadly there isn't one yet. Monster Iestyn (talk) 05:01, 23 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Some time back I did manage to find an online version of Flower's 1996 article, which contains a list of all Central American Eumolpinae including the two genera here, it's archived on Wayback Machine here: . On the other hand, the South American species have largely not been talked about since Bechyné's time, frustratingly. Monster Iestyn (talk) 05:14, 23 May 2021 (UTC)

hi are you active? I don't really want to sit on this for weeks on end, so I may decide to revert your changes soon unless you have a better idea about dealing with these species. Unfortunately in the end, it's a mess left behind by leaf beetle experts of the past because of poor communication between each other, and I made an attempt to make sense of it all. Monster Iestyn (talk) 18:43, 25 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Oh oops sorry! I'm very bad at responding to things, my eyes kinda skip over the top bar... No worries about reverting it, you've clearly done heaps more active research than I did and have a far more informed opinion. I typically rely on taxonomy databases because of the basic nightmare you've described, especially GBIF because it has a lot of others indexed. But from memory, I got confused because I couldn't really find what was on the page on a few databases and the citations seemed to confirm there was an issue. But that makes sense as a conclusion on your part, and explains that discrepancy. I do think that'd be original research in other fields, but honestly who knows with taxonomy - I think your conclusion does fit within the ISO taxonomy standards. By any chance, have you asked the relevant WikiProject/s? They may be able to say if it's OR in this context. And thank you for taking the time to explain the reasoning to me! --Xurizuri (talk) 02:26, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Ah, thanks for responding. No, I haven't asked any WikiProjects about it yet. I probably ought to have done so years ago, but I never really thought whether I was handling this kind of problem the right way that much until the last year or so. Glad to clear things up anyway. =) Monster Iestyn (talk) 02:38, 6 June 2021 (UTC)

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WikiProject Psychology
Just to say that you're doing great work overhauling this WikiProject. Thanks for all that you're doing. MartinPoulter (talk) 16:06, 8 October 2021 (UTC)
 * thank you! I'm trying my very best. --Xurizuri (talk) 08:03, 9 October 2021 (UTC)

Past lives
Great work on cleaning up that new stub. Definitely a thankless task, so thank you! I saw that you recently joined WP:Skepticism, but you also might find it worthwhile to watchlist WP:FTN. jps (talk) 01:31, 12 October 2021 (UTC)
 * haa I was so sure when I saw the section heading that you were here to tell me I was being biased. Thank you for the recommendation! --Xurizuri (talk) 06:38, 12 October 2021 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Delaney555/Asperger syndrome


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Merger discussion for Somatic experiencing
An article that you have been involved in editing&mdash;Somatic experiencing&mdash;has been proposed for merging with another article. If you are interested, please participate in the merger discussion. Thank you. –– FormalDude  talk  12:13, 26 October 2021 (UTC)
 * , I would hardly say I've been "involved", I've made one meaningful edit on the talk page. Given that you went to such a level of effort to notify me, I'm sure you've also notified the creators of both articles, right? Because otherwise this could easily be misconstrued as WP:CANVASSING. --Xurizuri (talk) 08:06, 27 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Sorry, didn't mean to imply WP:INVOLVED, just noting you have participated there. By no means was this intended as an obligation to participate. I have also notified both page creators, although neither appears to be active recently. –– FormalDude  talk  02:52, 28 October 2021 (UTC)
 * No worries, I understood what you meant. Thank you for informing the creators so promptly. --Xurizuri (talk) 06:09, 1 November 2021 (UTC)

Requesting some article expansion help
Greetings,

You seem to have interests in psychology, medicine and skepticism, hence:

Requesting you to visit article Draft:Irrational beliefs and help expand the same if you find interested in.

If you tend to be busy then there is no hurry you can take your time, since you have interest in three topics together I do have hope you might research, find and contribute to Draft:Irrational beliefs.

Thanks and warm regards

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DISC Assessment Article Revision
Hello. I saw that you were interested in revising the DISC Assessment article. This would be very helpful, as the article has been cut down significantly and currently lacks information and usefulness. I agree with your point that the article could be structured like the Beck Depression Inventory article. I also think that the Myers-Brigg article could provide some basis/inspiration for structure and content type. Would you like to head up this effort? I could provide 'backup' as I have access to a variety of journals at the moment if there is any source that you would like to use. Thanks, Tigerfair (talk) 19:15, 5 November 2021 (UTC)

Your help desk question
You did not get a response to this question. Did you find the answer elsewhere? It looks like something they could help you with at WP:VPT.— Vchimpanzee  •  talk  •  contributions  •  00:08, 9 November 2021 (UTC)
 * , I didn't find the answer, but I did figure out that the WP 1.0 bot only records the most recent date that the rating changed between its scans. So a primary issue with a tracker would be that, if an article was reassessed as still being the same quality, then there's no way for the tracker to know that. Well, it might work if you remove the rating, wait until after the next scan, and then reinstate that rating. I haven't tested that, because it seems like an enormous nuisance to have to go back to each article, and is reasonably likely to get reverted by someone before the next scan. I haven't followed it up at VPT because I'm pretty sure that this isn't worth the effort. Well, at least not for the project I wanted to use it for. --Xurizuri (talk) 22:07, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
 * You understand this stuff a lot better than I do. anyway, I'm late going through the archives and I like to make sure all questions were answered if I can, but there are very few that get missed that I can help with.— Vchimpanzee  •  talk  •  contributions  •  22:34, 16 November 2021 (UTC)


 * thank you for checking! That's a really cool thing that you're doing. Yeah I had to mess around with it for a couple days to figure all that out. --Xurizuri (talk) 23:39, 18 November 2021 (UTC)

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 * Also, bundled with this is the redirect Domestic violence in Spain. Jay (talk) 04:46, 25 November 2021 (UTC)

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Closing discussions
Please don't close discussions in which you are a major participant, and especially don't declare consensus, as you did here. If necessary, seek closure from an someone who is independent of the discussion at WP:CR. Sundayclose (talk) 18:51, 11 December 2021 (UTC)
 * - as it neatly describes on the page you linked, "Many discussions result in a reasonably clear consensus, so if the consensus is clear, any editor—even one involved in the discussion—may close the discussion." Do you believe that the consensus was unclear or that my assessment was incorrect? Every person involved agreed that the articles needed to be the same article. --Xurizuri (talk) 01:53, 12 December 2021 (UTC)
 * If the closure is challenged it needs to stay open. This is a medical article. I posted notices at WP:WikiProject Medicine, WP:WikiProject Medicine/Psychiatry task force, and WP:WikiProject Psychology. Don't close the discussion until one full week passes with no additional comments. That doesn't prevent you from discussing what happens if there is a merge, as you have done. Sundayclose (talk) 02:10, 12 December 2021 (UTC)
 * I'm well aware of that and I'm not going to redo the close. I am asking for clarification on your reasoning for contesting it. --Xurizuri (talk) 02:52, 12 December 2021 (UTC)
 * I want more awareness about the issue among medical experts on Wikipedia. Sundayclose (talk) 03:00, 12 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Fair enough. Thank you for explaining. --Xurizuri (talk) 03:09, 12 December 2021 (UTC)

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Here on Wikipedia, editors are expected to treat each other with respect and civility. On this encyclopedia project, editors assume good faith while interacting with other editors, which you did not appear to do at Talk:Sex differences in medicine. ''In the future, please WP:AGF. It is something you did not do in this comment in particular. Aside from misinterpreting my words, you misinterpreted my intentions. Try not to do it again. It is better to not assume intentions at all, and rather ask. Thank you.'' — Shibboleth ink  (♔ ♕) 06:57, 27 December 2021 (UTC)


 * I was definitely shittier than I should've been, sorry. It's not really an excuse, I should still be more careful, but it's been 40+ degrees C for 4 days running where I am. I'm not sure though why you say I misinterpreted your intention? I definitely don't think you had any ill will or ulterior motive or anything. I would be grateful if you could explain. -- Xurizuri (talk) 23:23, 27 December 2021 (UTC)

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Removal of studies section on the Male Expendability article
Why did you remove the studies section under WP Primary? That wasn't a primary source - that was a Science Daily article. Tiggy The Terrible (talk) 10:25, 20 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you for asking rather than reverting. I removed it because the source was just describing the study. Recapping the results of something, even with minor added commentary from the author of the study, is not the same as analysing and offering additional commentary. That is to say, it is not a secondary source. Basically, there's a weird space that exists between primary and secondary. In this case, I would analogise it to if someone recreated the Mona Lisa. Technically, it's a different piece of art, but it's also definitely not. I'll note here also, there is also room on WP for using primary sources, but they're generally avoided when a secondary is available. And there are a lot of actual secondary sources about gender inequality, so it wouldn't be appropriate here. There was actually another issue with having the description of the study. In this article's case, it causes issues around due weight, which is a common problem with using primary sources (hence why I didn't state it separately).Although I appreciate you requesting clarification (and it's absolutely best practice), in future it may be better to start a discussion on the article's talk page. It means that, in the future, other people will be able to see why things happened one way instead of another. If you're concerned that the person won't see it, you can use a template like u or link the person's name directly, e.g. User:Xurizuri, which will notify them. Apologies if you already knew that, and if not, I hope it helps. --Xurizuri (talk) 11:19, 20 January 2022 (UTC)

Edith Eger
Hi Xurizuri, I saw this edit. Does living=no imply that she is supposedly dead? That is not correct, she is very much alive. Kattiel (talk) 09:07, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
 * , oh no that was a mistake - I was switching needs-infobox to no on the projects and I must have edited the wrong field. Thank you for picking that up! --Xurizuri (talk) 09:31, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Kattiel (talk) 09:41, 27 January 2022 (UTC)

Closure of RfC on Periodic table
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 * Ahhhh damn it I must've forgotten, I'll add unsigned now. Thank you for letting me know! --Xurizuri (talk) 11:59, 6 February 2022 (UTC)

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dyslexia
please discuss on article talk first, thank you--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 13:27, 19 February 2022 (UTC)
 * , I'm assuming you're referring to the merge tags notifying people of the merge discussion that I put on the Dyslexia article, that you removed. Part of the process of discussing a merge is to put merge tags on the article because it alerts editors and readers to the merge discussion so that people can participate in it. It doesn't need to be discussed on the talk page, because it is a sitewide procedure that aids discussion. --Xurizuri (talk) 00:43, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
 * I understand your point, however the article your suggesting to merge is too much and deserves its own article, as it currently is --Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 01:01, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
 * , because it makes it harder for other people to participate when discussion is spilt, please keep discussion of whether or not the articles should merge at Talk:Dyslexia. Returning to the point at hand, until the merge discussion is finished, I would like to leave the merge tag on the article so that people will be able to participate. We would remove the tags again after we know what the consensus is. --Xurizuri (talk) 02:51, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
 * yes I answered over at article/talk--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 03:10, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
 * , given that it's the normal process for discussing merges, do you mind if I put the merge tag back on the article? --Xurizuri (talk) 10:25, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Xurizuri, allow me some time to improve Characteristics of dyslexia as I have been doing per Article development I believe this to be an important article, I will then have it Peer review when I am finished, thank you for your gracious time--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 13:53, 24 February 2022 (UTC)
 * That's not related to the merge though. You're a very good article writer, so I believe you could definitely get it to a high standard, but the merge discussion is not about how well the article is written, it's about whether it's helpful to a reader to have a separate characteristics article. I'm happy for us to request advice from WikiProject Merge if you disagree about how the merge process works. --Xurizuri (talk) 00:06, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
 * again give me time to continue to improve Characteristics of dyslexia, thank you kindly--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 13:47, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
 * As I have stated, the merge proposal is not about the quality of the article. It is also not my decision anymore about whether to withdraw the proposal, because other people have participated. I am going to reinstate the merge tags. If you decide to keep interfering with the merge and remove the tags again, I'm going to request advice from WikiProject Merge on how to proceed. --Xurizuri (talk) 03:51, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

Discussion

 * any text introduced must be MEDRS Identifying reliable sources (medicine) source (please do not add text that is not)--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 04:37, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure what you're referring to, could you explain? --Xurizuri (talk) 05:46, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

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This is a probably unimportant tangent about a comment you made a while ago. NOTPAPER says this:

"Keeping articles to a reasonable size is important for Wikipedia's accessibility, especially for readers with low-bandwidth connections and on mobile platforms, since it directly affects page download time (see Article size). Splitting long articles and leaving adequate summaries is a natural part of growth for a topic (see Summary style)."

Basically, NOTPAPER says we can and should have lots of separate articles. It does not actually support having any long articles, and it never has. In fact, when NOTPAPER was first added in March 2003, the advice for the size of an individual article would have required the current version of Dyslexia to be split into at least three pages. (This is because some web browsers back in 2003 refused to load more than 32K of content.) NOTPAPER is all about permitting as many individual articles as you want, not about having a smaller number of really long articles. WhatamIdoing (talk) 20:49, 8 March 2022 (UTC)
 * , thank you for clarifying that! I have no idea how I messed that one up that much. --Xurizuri (talk) 11:24, 22 March 2022 (UTC)
 * I'm certain that it's not your fault. Wikipedia seems to operate as a kind of Telephone game.  The most common reason that an editor gets it wrong is:  someone reasonably trustworthy told you the wrong answer.  That editor probably got the wrong answer from someone else, who seemed equally trustworthy at that time.
 * This sort of not-quite-right rumor happens all the time. Compare, e.g., the actual text of WP:BRD against What editors mean when they say you have to follow BRD. WhatamIdoing (talk) 15:52, 22 March 2022 (UTC)

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