User talk:Y2kcrazyjoker4/Archive 15

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RfC
Can you please vote or comment at Talk:Walking on Air (Katy Perry song) involving the genre infobox dispute on the page? 2402:1980:8253:BB42:5C5C:5753:4E03:BA86 (talk) 17:20, 31 January 2019 (UTC)

Genres
Hi. Regarding your edit (and its summary) on Patience (Tame Impala song), are you one of the editors who believe genres need to have articles before we can put them in the infobox? I know a number of editors on Wikipedia are of the opinion that having hyphenated genre combinations and linking both is somehow "incorrect" and that we shouldn't do it, but I've yet to see any consensus stating that we should not do so and I don't believe there is one. Many genre combinations are not going to have articles. So really, if Jimmio78 decides to restore "psych-disco", I don't think it should be re-reverted, or that it should be reverted on articles if there is no consensus/guideline stating that we should not do so. Thanks.  Ss  112   15:34, 22 March 2019 (UTC)

Quotation marks on Let's Rock
Please participate on the talk page, and do not revert further per WP:BRD. I do not want any edit wars, so if it goes further, I will ask an admin to intervene. Thanks.  Ss  112   04:26, 6 May 2019 (UTC)

Unsourced, undiscussed, unexplained genre changes
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 * Where is it cited in the article? Answer: it's not. And Coldplay hasn't been considered an indie band in nearly 2 decades. Y2Kcrazyjoker4 (talk &bull; contributions) 13:57, 30 May 2019 (UTC)

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Thanks
Thank you for all the work you did on “Let’s Rock”. I appreciate seeing someone besides myself doing work on new, high profile, guitar driven, rock articles. It looks good. Sergecross73  msg me  17:56, 6 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Thank you, I appreciate it. I hope some other people will contribute to the article soon enough to cover for the "blind spots" that I sometimes have. Y2Kcrazyjoker4 (talk &bull; contributions) 21:00, 7 July 2019 (UTC)

KFC
Hi! Y2kcrazyjoker4! Nice to meet you. on your edit summary ~ (→‎Controversies and criticism: Seriously, quadruple quotes?) ~ I have been around with other editors with only 2 quotes ~ them changing it to four ~ I'm like ~OK? ~ so if it be the correct way, I am more than happy to use only two quotes on coping from a RS ~ that has quoted other work. Lol ~ thanks ~mitch~ (talk) 17:17, 28 August 2019 (UTC)

Black Sabbath
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Zoo TV Tour
Hi Y2k. I was reading WP:FADC today and noticed that there's only one entry for Feb 29 ... Zoo TV Tour. So, if the article is still in good shape, and if you want to run it at WP:TFA on a relevant date, we can only do that once every 4 years. There's nothing currently listed at WP:TFAP for Feb 29. - Dank (push to talk) 20:25, 13 November 2019 (UTC)
 * I think it's definitely in good enough shape to run. I'll look for some areas we can improve referencing or do some maintenance to ensure it's in tip-top shape by then. Y2Kcrazyjoker4 (talk &bull; contributions) 04:51, 15 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Would you like for me to add it to the pending requests page for Feb 29? - Dank (push to talk) 04:55, 15 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Please do. Thanks. Y2Kcrazyjoker4 (talk &bull; contributions) 18:24, 15 November 2019 (UTC)

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I'm Yours (Jason Mraz song)
Hi Star Tribune review says "Mraz, well, he would never hurt you. That's been clear for years, but never more so than on his 2008 hit "I'm Yours," one of the most indelible pop songs of the last decade. "I'm Yours" found an unlikely counterpart in "Hey, Soul Sister," released the following year by the band Train. Both were expressions of fealty, and both indicated the continuing vitality of maligned soft rock." The same description New York Times review "“I’m Yours” found an unlikely counterpart in “Hey, Soul Sister,” released the following year by the adult-contemporary rock band Train. Both were expressions of fealty, both used ukulele (or, at least, very tightly strung guitar), and both indicated the continuing vitality — if not originality — of soft rock, a genre maligned to the bones but stubborn." The same staff writer recalls "both artists" and it's about Jason's and Train's artistry in music (I guess).
 * Sorry. I misread. The staff writer says "both used ukulele" and "both indicated the continuing vitality of maligned soft rock" refers to both songs. My apologies. 2402:1980:251:EF45:F6B9:A815:F476:62B1 (talk) 16:34, 17 January 2020 (UTC)

Zoo TV Tour scheduled for TFA
This is to let you know that Zoo TV Tour has been scheduled as WP:TFA for 29 February 2020. Please check that the article needs no amendments. If you're interested in editing the main page text, you're welcome to do so at Today's featured article/February 29, 2020. Thanks! Ealdgyth - Talk 23:31, 25 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I've taken a stab at writing the TFA blurb. Y2Kcrazyjoker4 (talk &bull; contributions) 00:04, 26 January 2020 (UTC)
 * That's around 1367 characters ... the upper limit is 1025, including roughly 30 characters for (pictured) (after Bono) and . This is the character counter I use. Give it another shot. - Dank (push to talk) 00:26, 26 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I'm certainly not done, so I'll keep working on it. Y2Kcrazyjoker4 (talk &bull; contributions) 00:28, 26 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks, no rush. - Dank (push to talk) 00:44, 26 January 2020 (UTC)
 * If your version was just over 1035, we should be able to get it down to 1025 ... it's important to keep it to 1025. Give it a shot. - Dank (push to talk) 02:08, 18 February 2020 (UTC)
 * What day will the TFA blurb be locked down? I haven't had a chance to follow up yet this week but still plan to make some final edits. Y2Kcrazyjoker4 (talk &bull; contributions) 16:35, 20 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Sooner is better than later because other people may want to edit or discuss before the page is protected. It will be protected the first minute of the 28th. - Dank (push to talk) 18:07, 20 February 2020 (UTC)

I don't think the last sentence of the blurb is sufficiently supported by the reception section, and generally, the Main Page and especially TFA tend to avoid any kind of "greatest in history" language. The fact that it was the third-highest grossing North American tour ever (at the time) is a tangible demonstration of the tour's success ... could we go with that instead? - Dank (push to talk) 02:38, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Have you looked over the "Impact and legacy" section of the article? I think that will sufficiently support the last sentence of the blurb. If you think the sentence needs to be reworded, we can remove "in history". As it is, the sentence is simply saying it's memorable, without judgment about whether that's a good or bad thing. What do you think? Y2Kcrazyjoker4 (talk &bull; contributions) 04:01, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
 * I have. More typical language for TFA would be that many critics have described the tour as [whatever they said], or that the tour has appeared on many critics' lists of [memorable or whatever] rock tours. Would something like that work? - Dank (push to talk) 04:23, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Yeah, that would work. Y2Kcrazyjoker4 (talk &bull; contributions) 16:58, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
 * I saw your revision to the TFA. It sounds good except the use of the word "spectacle" is a bit repetitive with an earlier sentence that I edited. Do you have any alternatives you can propose? Y2Kcrazyjoker4 (talk &bull; contributions) 22:23, 25 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Good point. No preference. - Dank (push to talk) 22:28, 25 February 2020 (UTC)

Precious
You are recipient no. 2350 of Precious, a prize of QAI. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:27, 29 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the recognition, I appreciate it! Y2Kcrazyjoker4 (talk &bull; contributions) 14:16, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

U2 Pride
The song is clearly alternative rock I can help find a source but please stop removing it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.134.185.1 (talk) 17:55, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Clearly. Because so many references supporting your view are easily located, you have to resort to Amazon retail product listings and music playlists. Y2Kcrazyjoker4 (talk &bull; contributions) 22:54, 3 February 2020 (UTC)

Astros sign stealing scandal
I think your latest version is the best one so far. Thanks for working with me on that. Dennis Osmosis (talk) 17:38, 13 February 2020 (UTC)

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Houston Astros sign stealing scandal
Hey Y2kcrazyjoker4, hope you are well. Have you thought of bringing Houston Astros sign stealing scandal to WP:GAN? You are one of the significant contributors and seems well-written and sourced correctly. I'm currently going through the references to add archive links but overall it's a very readable article. --   LuK3      (Talk)   01:29, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
 * I definitely think this would be a good article to nominate for GAN... eventually. I think right now, we need to allow for a little more time to pass, to make sure there aren't any other developments, or any other revelations of sign stealing (from the Astros or any other team) that would be relevant. There hasn't been a single MLB game played since the scandal broke, so there's a potential for a lot of relevant things to play out: observing if Astros players get hit by pitches in the regular season, observing how the team fares post-scandal, observing if 'quarantined' playing locations due to COVID-19 has any impact on sign stealing. Y2Kcrazyjoker4 (talk &bull; contributions) 03:00, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
 * At this rate I'm not sure if there will be any baseball this season but we will see. I'll definitely keep an eye out on it. --   LuK3      (Talk)   12:04, 22 June 2020 (UTC)

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LeBron James as the GOAT
Hi, Y2kcrazyjoker4. Like I stated before elsewhere, the reason James is often compared to Jordan is because James is often discussed as the greatest. It's not because he's one of the greatest. Otherwise, many others would be frequently compared to Jordan. That it's common for James to be discussed in the context of the greatest also belongs in the lead and is part of his legacy. It's a part of the Legacy section. It's WP:Lead material. As seen at Talk:LeBron James/Archive 5, how to relay the matter in the lead has been extensively discussed and an approach (a less contentious one than what was there before) was finally settled on.

I split the piece back into sentences like it was before. The one-sentence version that you edited was recent. Flyer22 Frozen (talk) 06:15, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
 * I've read your post multiple times and I'm still not sure I understand what you are talking about. The two sentences are extremely redundant, especially for the lead, where prose should be rather concise (particularly the 2nd and 3rd sentences). The current version you reverted to says "He is widely considered to be one of the greatest basketball players in NBA history. Discussions ranking him as the greatest basketball player of all time have often been subject to significant debate"... Does this not seem like an extremely long-winded way of saying he is ranked by many as one of greatest players, if not the greatest? It's pretty self-evident that discussions about the greatest players in any sport will be "subject to significant debate", so it really does not offer much value to the reader to say this in the 2nd and 3rd sentences of the lead. Why does it need to be any more complicated than "He is widely considered to be one of the greatest basketball players in NBA history, with frequent comparisons to Michael Jordan".?? Y2Kcrazyjoker4 (talk &bull; contributions) 13:53, 13 October 2020 (UTC)


 * Hi again, Y2kcrazyjoker4. No need to ping me. I check back for replies when commenting on a talk page.


 * Being considered "one of the greatest" and "the greatest" are obviously two different things. Therefore, not redundant. There are many basketball players who are considered to be one of the greatest, but only a few are considered the greatest. And when it comes to the GOAT debate specifically, it is primarily focused on/almost always about Jordan vs. James. Saying that "[James] is widely considered to be one of the greatest basketball players in NBA history, with frequent comparisons to Michael Jordan" fails to acknowledge that James is often considered the greatest basketball player in NBA history, not just one of the greatest, and makes it seem that he is only frequently compared to Jordan because he is one of the greatest. Many NBA players have been compared to Jordan. Kobe Bryant was frequently compared Jordan. But as many sources make clear, the GOAT debate regarding basketball is mainly about James vs. Jordan. It's James who consistently ranks second behind Jordan. And this debate has started up again because James just won his fourth ring. It's a controversial, ongoing debate. It is a significant part of James's legacy. The Legacy section addresses James being considered one of the greatest and the debate regarding whether he is the greatest. WP:Lead states, "The lead should stand on its own as a concise overview of the article's topic. It should identify the topic, establish context, explain why the topic is notable, and summarize the most important points, including any prominent controversies. [...] As in the body of the article itself, the emphasis given to material in the lead should roughly reflect its importance to the topic, according to reliable, published sources." That is why the GOAT material specifically belongs in the lead.


 * Before I even tried different wordings to relay the "one of the greatest" and "the greatest" aspects, the lead stated, "Often considered the best basketball player in the world and regarded by some as the greatest player of all time [...]." That is seen with this "22:58, 12 January 2019" version of the article, where I made my first edit to the article. The edit, as is clear by my edit summary, was made only to fix a quotation marks style. That version of the lead used the WP:Weasel wording "some" regarding "the greatest player of all time." It also had citation overkill going on just to support the sentence. As seen at Talk:LeBron James/Archive 5, editors' biases caused them to not even want it acknowledged in the lead that James is considered the greatest and to remove that aspect. After complaints, I re-added the piece, but with a simple sentence: "He is regarded by some as the greatest player of all time." I then changed it to "He is often regarded as the greatest basketball player of all time." This didn't sit well with those who still see Jordan as the greatest, so I ended up changing it to "Often compared to Michael Jordan for title of the greatest basketball player of all time [...]." But, as seen at Talk:LeBron James/Archive 5, this didn't sit well with one editor. So we agreed to change it to "James is often regarded as the greatest basketball player of all time, which has resulted in frequent comparisons to Michael Jordan." But this is wording I'd used before; someone had objected to it before. So I knew it would be an issue again. After commentary from someone about sourcing, I added six references in a WP:CITEBUNDLE to support the sentence. It also took care of the citation overkill being directly visible. This is noted at Talk:LeBron James/Archive 5, the discussion I pointed you to above. That discussion led to the current wording. Having it as one sentence doesn't work as well since a few editors (you included) consider it too wordy. So I split it into two sentences, and that was stable until recently.


 * Per what I stated above, it's important to note (in some way) in the lead that James is often considered the greatest NBA player of all-time. And editors will complain and/or add it to the lead if it's not there. But if we just leave it at that, people edit war over it a lot because they feel that it contradicts the lead of the Michael Jordan article or specifically contradicts Jordan widely being considered the greatest NBA player of all-time. As seen above, multiple different wordings have been tried...to combat the edit warring and satisfy readers and/or editors, but no wording is going to satisfy everyone. Despite the "no wording is going to satisfy everyone" factor, I'll try to think of yet another way to reword the matter. But like I stated before, "I'm not going to keep trying different wording, though. Eventually, editors will need to just accept what the sources state and with due weight." Flyer22 Frozen (talk) 17:39, 13 October 2020 (UTC)
 * I don't really want to get dragged into this debate or a wordsmithing war, I just think the language that has been used in these sentences is very wordy and gives undue weight to the debate over the best player. The first few sentences of the lead really should not be the place to get into such detail, but rather to establish the context of the subject (e.g. how long as the person played, for whom has he played, etc). I've made a change to the article that hopefully works for all. Y2Kcrazyjoker4 (talk &bull; contributions) 16:10, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
 * The first few sentences should capture why he is notable. That he's so often considered the greatest basketball player in NBA history is a part of that. That's why it belongs early in the lead before getting into his accomplishments. Same goes for the Jordan article. It's standard to note something as significant as that with regard to a person's legacy and then get into the accomplishments speaking to that. See, for example, the Kanye West article.


 * Anyway, as seen here, I very much appreciate your latest copyedit to that piece. Thanks again. Flyer22 Frozen (talk) 17:49, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

Boy (U2)
Could you provide and retranscript the exact quote for "unorthodox production technique" like recording smashed bottles? I suspect wp:original research. Thanks. If it comes from U2's book, this is biaised auto-promotion. Citing a band complimenting themselves is not encyclopedic. Iennes (talk) 01:48, 24 December 2020 (UTC)

“Pelosi's was merely one” occupied office, you say
The Speaker is the second most powerful person in America. That kinda makes a difference. A really big difference. soibangla (talk) 20:12, 9 January 2021 (UTC)


 * One lawmaker on CNN said every office door in one hallway had been busted in and that his laptop had been stolen from his office. Why are we singling out one lawmaker and one office, because of a picture of a rioter putting his feet on her desk?  Y2Kcrazyjoker4 (talk &bull;  contributions) 21:40, 9 January 2021 (UTC)

January 2021
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Disregarding talk page?
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Super Bowl Half-Time Logo Ideas
Thank you so much for recreating the 2002 E-Trade Super Bowl Logo. It's pretty interesting that the logo is only visible during the press-conference. I found some more potential logos, such as the controversial Super Bowl XXXVIII halftime show, as seen in this press conference.

If you don't mind, I went ahead and snooped for some more press-conference logos:
 * Super Bowl XXXV
 * Super Bowl XXVII.
 * Super Bowl XLI (Video instead of Photos)

You are super awesome!  Yoshiman6464 ♫🥚 17:42, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I appreciate it! The 2002 halftime show logo was actually shown during certain television broadcasts, and what I ended up tracing over was a picture of the logo on a seat cushion. But yes, it was rather limited in its use. For these other Super Bowl halftime show logos, the images you provided are a good start, but I am hoping to find some other larger pictures to be able to recreate the logos accurately. If I find some, I'll let you know. Y2Kcrazyjoker4 (talk &bull; contributions) 20:25, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
 * That's perfect! Just as you messaged me, I found a much clearer version of the Super Bowl XLI half-time logo - albeit a 3D version shown just before Prince's performance. You can see it here  Yoshiman6464 ♫🥚 20:31, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Update #2 - I was able to find a clearer logo for the Super Bowl XXXVIII halftime show. It appears as an on-screen bug in the beginning.  Yoshiman6464 ♫🥚 14:38, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

Bono update
Hello, Y2kcrazyjoker4! I am John Bowditch with Maverick, U2’s management company, and I want to be a resource for the Wikipedia community to assist with updates related to Bono according to Wikipedia's conflict of interest behavioral guideline and related best practices. I see you are a major contributor to articles related to U2, so I wonder if you have any suggestions for the best way to move forward with updates to "Philanthropy and activism" on the Bono article. You can see my specific questions on the Bono discussion page. JohnBowditch92 (talk) 19:41, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
 * thanks for reaching out. I'll reply to your concerns on the talk page of the Bono article. Y2Kcrazyjoker4 (talk &bull; contributions)

Re: quotebox
My mistake. No big deal. isento (talk) 01:43, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

Thanks, I appreciate it. Y2Kcrazyjoker4 (talk • contributions) 02:26, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

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U2 main page: "Also known as"
Hello Y2kcrazyjoker4,

I made a previous edit (under a guest name) where the alias "Passengers (1995)" was placed under the "Also known as:" section. I believe this should be an edit that is kept. It was an alias that U2 used for their 1995 Album Original Soundtracks 1, and if you look up the song "Miss Sarajevo", it was officially written by Passengers, NOT U2. Whether or not it was because of legal jargon is irrelevant, it was the name they used in 1995.

Also, my favorite band Coldplay has an "also known as" section. They too released a side project album in 2018 called Global Citizen - EP 1 under the pseudonym "Los Unidades", and this can be clearly seen on their wikipedia page, linked here. In my opinion, I believe it is a pseudonym and should be on the main U2 page, especially if the Coldplay page has their pseudonym under the "Also known as" section. In other words, there has been a precedent set for another band's page of allowing pseudonyms on Wikipedia for the "Also known as" section.

Thank you. Gabe015 (talk) 03:17, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
 * your point is well taken, but I think there is a key discrepancy here. "Los Unidades" was used a pseudonym for the 4 members of Coldplay, whereas the Original Soundtracks I project was a collaboration between the members of U2 and Brian Eno, so it would be incorrect to say that Passengers was merely an alias for U2. It was an alias for the collaboration of U2 and Eno. Y2Kcrazyjoker4 (talk &bull; contributions) 15:32, 20 April 2021 (UTC)

Spiral (Darkside album)
I see what's happening there, and I agree that your reverts are following Wikipedia's guidelines, but unexplained reverts are disruptive. so please EXPLAIN why you reverted them--because you did so four times. Thank you. Drmies (talk) 18:00, 25 July 2021 (UTC)

Halt and Catch Fire
Thanks for fixing my mistake. -- 109.79.168.87 (talk) 21:15, 14 September 2021 (UTC)

Coldplay photo
You can barely see Will in the other photo though. Also, it's from 2017, an update is VERY needed.


 * I don't know how often you think an infobox image needs to change, but an image being 4 years old is not outdated, and is not enough of a difference in time to warrant changing. Did everyone put on massive amounts of weight or substantially change their wardrobe in the time since the image was taken that needs to be depicted? Definitely not. Y2Kcrazyjoker4 (talk &bull; contributions) 00:28, 24 December 2021 (UTC)


 * Just let me have that, I've already edited their page so many times that seeing that same photo all the time is starting to annoy me :')
 * Anyway, personal nonsense aside, I do think it's an overall better photo. I'll start a section in their talk page to see what the others think.
 * So a U2 fan huh? I've randomly edited their awards page the other day, I hope the new box I did there helped to make the page better!
 * --GustavoCza (talk) 00:53, 24 December 2021 (UTC)

Reversion of edits to Achtung Baby article
Please do not re-revert the edits for missing citations on the page for the U2 album "Achtung Baby". Per Wikipedia: "Wikipedia's verifiability policy requires inline citations for any material challenged or likely to be challenged, and for all quotations, anywhere in article space." Instead of reverting my edits, I would humbly suggest that you bring your considerable knowledge of U2 to bear on adding the missing citations and improving the page!

--DarrenBaker (talk) 03:40, 17 January 2022 (UTC)


 * Everything in the lede is already cited in the article body. There is no strict requirement to re-cite everything in the lede if already supported by citations in the body. Y2Kcrazyjoker4 (talk &bull; contributions) 04:14, 17 January 2022 (UTC)

Halt and Catch Fire
@Y2kcrazyjoker4, Hi, kudos for your enormous contribution to that article. I think it is fit for GA?-- Tame (talk) 12:37, 21 January 2022 (UTC)
 * I'd like to add a "Premise" section that we can start the article body with, which will allow us to trim down some of the plot summary and organize the sections in a different order than we have now. After that, I'd be comfortable nominating it for GA. Y2Kcrazyjoker4 (talk &bull; contributions) 14:35, 2 February 2022 (UTC)
 * @Y2kcrazyjoker4, sounds like a plan. I'm willing to help. Tame (talk) 18:13, 2 February 2022 (UTC)