User talk:YUL89YYZ/Archive 1

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Hello YUL
Never mind Dan (User:Meelar). He always gets here first :-). Thank you for some recent contributions to rabbinical biographies and the nice, new and sensible Yahrzeit. You must have done some edits before getting a username. Don't forget to have them attributed to yourselves! You might be interested to join WikiProject "Judaism". This is a page where editors with an interest in Jewish themes gather and discuss pertinent articles. Sparks fly occasionally, but I think this is a worthy effort to increase the qualify of Jewish content on this fine encyclopedia. Please don't hesitate to contact me with queries. I'm an admin as well. JFW | T@lk  20:51, 9 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Re: Wikipedia:WikiProject Judaism
Hi, and Shalom Aleichem. Please look at WikiProject Judaism, your joining it and input would be appreciated. IZAK 07:56, 10 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Hebrew languages
Wikipedia:WikiProject Hebrew languages Please join WikiProject Hebrew languages Your input will be crucial. IZAK 08:35, 10 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Emily Carr== ==

Congratulations for finding these two public domain images. Could you please give on-line references on the image description pages to the source and the copyright statement? I've done it for one, but I don't have the time nowe to do it for the painting, too. Thanks. Lupo 15:38, 17 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Done

YUL89YYZ 15:48, 17 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Sp4c
Hi YUL, How you doing? Great idea about writting the meaning of Sp4c. What I did is I put the meaning as a footnote. Thanks for your idea. User:Marine 69-71

Canadian Banks
Thanks for fixing my mistake on defunct Canadian banks (+ HSBC(C)). That was sloppy cutting and pasting on my part. I should have removed the TSX index category before pasting that into those articles. Cheers, Kevintoronto 14:56, 23 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Hebrew Wikisource and Open Mishnah Project
Hi YUL.

From recent edits, I see that you are both interested in Mishnah and in the Hebrew wikipedia.

I suggest that you look at the Wikisource Open Mishnah Project in Hebrew and English, as well as the recent discussion of it at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Judaism.

(The links to the project appear within the recent discussion.)

Kol tuv, Dovi 02:42, Aug 24, 2004 (UTC)

Nice job with the Hebrew months template!
Dear YUL89YYZ: Just wanted to thank and congratulate you for the wonderful template for the Hebrew months! By the way, have you seen the request at WikiProject Judaism perhaps you could help, that would be GREAT! Thanks again and well done! IZAK 02:28, 25 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Category:Children's television series
Why didn't you put shows like The Fairly OddParents, Dexter's Laboratory, and Cow and Chicken under Category:Children's television series yet? Marcus2 21:05, 25 Aug 2004 (UTC)

I've also noticed you added these category to pages on these TV shows in this order: Rugrats, The Powerpuff Girls, Scooby-Doo, SpongeBob SquarePants (Source: all back-to-back on my watchlist). Why do you put shows like Rugrats and Powerpuff Girls first before more popular shows like Scooby-Doo and SpongeBob SquarePants? Do you really believe that Rugrats and Powerpuff Girls are more important? Anyway, I think Dexter's Laboratory is essentially as important as Powerpuff Girls, and The Fairly OddParents I think is more important and popular than Powerpuff Girls and is currently at least almost, if not as or more popular than Rugrats. Or are you just doing those shows in random order without concerning which ones are more popular? Marcus2 12:26, 26 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Answer: I just added the category to the entries which I thought were missing. How they are displayed is up to Wiki. No favoritism is meant or implied. Please feel free to add any missing ones. --YUL89YYZ 12:42, Aug 26, 2004 (UTC)

Fraser Papers
I think a company on a list of n-hundred biggest companies in y-country can have an article. To expand on Rory's comment on VfD, the problem is that the article doesn't mention that's why you included it, or any other reason it's notable. If it's publicly traded,you could mention that, the market it's traded on, and stock symbol. The first paragraph of General Maritime Corporation is probably a good example of a short stub on a company, as is ConocoPhillips (without the logos, as there is a movement to try and avoid 'fair use' images, and I'd say one external link per paragraph, maximum). United States Gypsum is shorter than I'd recommend emulating, but note that it has survived because it makes it's notability clear. Something more like USAA is probably a better example of a minimum stub of this sort. Niteowlneils 19:48, 26 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * After looking a bit more, I see American Express may be a more comparable example (DJIA) to the list you're using. Of course, it would be good to have a S&P/TSX Composite Index article to refer your articles back to, to help establish the context and notability. Niteowlneils 21:12, 26 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * OK, I saved one edit that's not much longer, but I think would have kept it from being listed on VfD. I saved a second edit that added a bit more that I thot was interesting about the company. If you haven't read it already, you might skim Perfect stub article. Niteowlneils 01:05, 27 Aug 2004 (UTC)

No problem--all of us were newcomers once. As for getting rid of the VfD tag goes, that's entirely a matter of time--it stays on for five days, and then, based on the votes, either the article gets deleted, or the tag gets removed. Now that Geogre and I have voted to keep, I believe the latter will happen. I don't think you'll find this documented anywhere, but certain articles are met with more suspicion/skepticism than others. Geography and mainstream science and technology, for example, are generally included without much question. However, since people regularly try to promote their website or company on Wikipedia, no matter how obscure, articles about such topics are much more closely scrutinized--it's nothing personal, nor is it anti-Canada--you just happened to pick a category that is held to a very high standard to be included. Oh, and one other thing you probably won't find specifically documented: the whole paradigm of categories was just implemented shortly before your first post, so 'old-timers' aren't likely to factor them into their judgements on articles, so it is important to put the association in the text of the article. I wouldn't sweat it too much--don't let this VfD nomination slow you down or distract you. Just try and learn from it, and soldier on. I think you clearly have a lot to offer Wikipedia, and hope you keep contributing. Niteowlneils 15:46, 27 Aug 2004 (UTC)

English
Hi. Please disambiguate English on your user page. For example, English. Thanks. RedWolf 02:54, Sep 3, 2004 (UTC)

Done. --YUL89YYZ 08:59, Sep 3, 2004 (UTC)

Global Party of Canada leaders
Um, really... do you think that this warrants a category? there's no evidence that this party extends beyond Mr. Slota and his wife, and it seems unlikely that there will ever be another leader, so this will always exist as a category of one. Kevintoronto 15:51, 13 Sep 2004 (UTC)

OK, let's remove it --YUL89YYZ 15:52, Sep 13, 2004 (UTC)

Thanks. Keep up the good work on other stuff. Kevintoronto 20:26, 14 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Vote
See Votes for deletion/Occupation of Palestine

Re: top-level domains
Yeah, it would be cool to have all the articles of the country code top-level domains, but I'm a lazy bastard and that could be done by a robot. I'm currently using a PHP script to generate the wiki-code, see &mdash; feel free to use it. &mdash;Joseph | Talk 16:56, Sep 23, 2004 (UTC)


 * By the way, there's no need to add the template to every ccTLD article. Its purpose was to include it in the ccTLD article (currently stored on My Sandbox). Users can navigate to others ccTLD by using the Category:Country code top-level domains which is and must be included in every ccTLD article. Thx for your work tho! =D   &mdash;Joseph | Talk 18:08, Sep 23, 2004 (UTC)

Vote: Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Violence against Israelis
See Votes for deletion/Violence against Israelis. Thank you. IZAK 09:47, 3 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Support
See Requests for comment/IZAK. Thank you. IZAK 03:25, 6 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Requests for adminship/Sam Spade
Requests for adminship/Sam Spade

Vote "NO". Opposed to SamSpade's unfriendly views in the Jew article. IZAK 09:11, 10 Oct 2004 (UTC)

"(Israel) in contravention of the Partition plan, began killing and ethnically cleansing Palestinian Arab population. Palestine's five neighbour states then.."
Please see History of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict where User:HistoryBuffer insists on inserting: that Israel "in contravention of the Partition plan, began killing and ethnically cleansing Palestinian Arab population. Palestine's five neighbour states then attacked Israel."...When no-one but he says this, and refuses to accept anything else. He also insists on editing-away lots of NPOV's that don't suit him, take a look at please. IZAK 08:40, 13 Oct 2004 (UTC)

book-stubs
well, I originally made the book-stub cat/msg because I didn't look around enough, and didn't realize there was a liturature-stub. there isn't really any difference, but maybe book-stub could be used for articles about books only, and lit-stub for other forms of literature, i.e. magazines. or not. I don't really know either way. Lachatdelarue [[User talk:Lachatdelarue|(talk)]] 22:10, 13 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Yes, go right ahead. I apologize for the extra work I created... Lachatdelarue [[User talk:Lachatdelarue|(talk)]] 13:16, 14 Oct 2004 (UTC)

nonstub stubs
I'm curious what the point is of having stub messages that say, e.g., this is a science stub or this is an animal stub or this is a book stub. They're all still stubs. Seems like extra work to come up with, maintain, and apply different ones with no particular benefit. Is there a general discussion on this topic somewhere that I've missed? Elf | Talk 19:13, 26 Oct 2004 (UTC)


 * OK, I get it now. It doesn't help the article reader/casual updater but it does help rabid editors (like ourselves) who like to bite off a big chunk and tackle it in a rational manner. I'll be quiet now. :-)  Elf | Talk 04:08, 27 Oct 2004 (UTC)


 * I was actually similarly confused when I saw that stub tag, but I think it's a good idea after reading your description. A "law expert" looking to enrich Wikipedia could just look at the law stub section to know where he could have a lot of impact.  Cool. --DropDeadGorgias (talk) 16:18, Oct 29, 2004 (UTC)

Problem with template
Hi, I am not sure if you created the template but look at the page of Book of Judges and you will see that it is now malfunctioning (the bottom part, the "URL" of the "edit button" is showing up, and makes the template too long across the page, it used to be a thinnner clumn, now it's off). I haven't looked at the other Tanakh pages, but they are worth checking out since the template runs across all its related articles. Thanks for looking into this. Best wishes. IZAK 03:40, 29 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Stub categories
Please do us all a favor and add your list of new stubs to List of Stubs template. Thanks! --[[User:AllyUnion|AllyUnion (talk)]] 06:03, 1 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Favor done. --YUL89YYZ 14:31, Nov 1, 2004 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Categories_for_deletion#Category:Palestinian_terrorists
See these six categories up for "votes of deletion": Categories_for_deletion and Categories_for_deletion and Categories_for_deletion and Categories_for_deletion and Categories_for_deletion] and this one too: Categories_for_deletion IZAK 10:10, 5 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Opinion for IZAK
Please see Requests for arbitration/IZAK/Evidence. Thank you. IZAK 06:52, 7 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Copyright and Gerald La Dain
Hi, thanks for your message and the post on the talk page. But you see, sometimes things are complicated with the GNU free documentation licence, so i'm not really so sure if we can use this. So i'm waiting what the experts say about this. If it's ok the article will be back in seven days. If not, it will be no big deal to rewrite this small article. Sorry for the inconvenience, but copyright problems are always a bit toughy. all the best, Lady Tenar 21:33, 16 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Article Licensing
Hi, I've started the Free the Rambot Articles Project which has the goals of getting users to multi-license all of their contributions that they've made to... using the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike (CC-by-sa) version 1.0 and 2.0 Licenses or into the public domain if they prefer. The CC-by-sa license is a true free documentation license that is similar to the GFDL (which every contribution made to Wikipedia is licensed under), but it allows other projects, such as WikiTravel, to use our articles (See the Multi-licensing Guide for more information). Since you are among the top 1000 most active Wikipedians, I was wondering if you would be willing to multi-license all of your contributions or at minimum those on the geographic articles.
 * 1) ...all U.S. state, county, and city articles...
 * 2) ...all articles...

To allow us to track those users who muli-license their contributions, many users copy and paste the   template (or    for public domain) into their user page, but there are other templates for other options at Template messages/User namespace. The following examples could also copied and pasted into your user page:


 * Option 1
 * I agree to multi-license all my contributions, with the exception of my user pages, as described below:

OR
 * Option 2
 * I agree to multi-license all my contributions to any U.S. state, county, or city article as described below:

Or if you wanted to place your work into the public domain, you could replace   with   . If you only prefer using the GFDL, I would like to know that too. Please let me know at my talk page what you think. -- Ram-Man 17:25, Nov 29, 2004 (UTC)

Unverified images
Hi! Thanks for uploading the following image:


 * Image:DesjardinsLogo.png

I notice it currently doesn't have an image copyright tag. Could you add one to let us know its copyright status? (You can use if you release it under the GNU Free Documentation License,  if you claim fair use, etc.) If you don't know what any of this means, just let me know at my talk page where you got the images and I'll tag them for you. Thanks so much. [[User:Poccil|Peter O. (Talk, automation script)]] 05:24, Dec 11, 2004 (UTC)

P.S. You can help tag other images at User:Yann/Untagged_Images. Thanks again.

Added --YUL89YYZ 17:35, Dec 24, 2004 (UTC)

Input needed
Hi YUL89YYZ: Please see Lost Ten Tribes Talk:Lost Ten Tribes as to how this article should be presented. This is how I recently found it:. I then edited it to this:. Another user then changed it to this:. Finally, I edited it to this: which is where it essentially stands, awaiting more input. Your suggestions would help, the topic is important. Thank you. IZAK 07:04, 28 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Stub sorting
If you don't mind, please help me out in completing some of the to-do tasks. We really need to lay down the policy for this, I'm getting bothered by the amount of stubs the list is growing by. -- AllyUnion (talk) 06:12, 29 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Fraser Mustard
Hi there! Thanks for your recent addition. Can you please add a bit to the article to establish Mustard's notability? Right now I don't see why he deserves his own article here... Thanks! --David Iberri | Talk 19:37, Jan 4, 2005 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the explanation. I had read the whole article, but I somehow misinterpreted parts of it and didn't see his notability. Now that I read it again, it's all clear. Thanks for the contribution. David Iberri | Talk 21:09, Jan 4, 2005 (UTC)

Russia-geo-stub
Hi YUL, I've been busily siftiing through the geography stubs, trying to cut them down to a more reasonable number by putting them in subcategories. I notice your name crops up a lot putting stub templates on Russian geography stubs. Thought you'd like to know that there';s now a separate subcategory which you can use for them. Hopefully it'll make them easier for people to find who want to work on Russian articles. Keep up the good work! Grutness|hello? 04:51, 21 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Canadian Jews
Trying to sort out the entries marked unconfirmed (see Talk:List of Canadian Jews). Regarding Alice Parizeau: do you have anything to indicate she is Jewish apart from her imprisonment at Bergen-Belsen during WW2? The lack of any references online, plus her involvement in the Polish underground, make me think she probably wasn't. Juko 11:07, 25 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Parsha, new developments
Hi YUL: Please see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Judaism and the newly proposed User:Zabek/Parashah chart which overlaps with your earlier work at Parsha. The new person would like input, so please see the related pages I have mentioned. Thank you. IZAK 09:01, 4 Feb 2005 (UTC)

VfD on Jewish ethnocentrism
Currently the Jewish ethnocentrism article is up for deletion. You'll find the discussion, and can vote, at Votes for deletion/Jewish ethnocentrism. Jayjg (talk) 17:21, 4 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * The vote will be closing soon, in case you wish to vote. Jayjg (talk) 02:44, 6 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Category Table of Contents
Hi, Noticed you have experimented with TOC's for large categories. I've created a template to basically do what you've been doing. To use, just type:  . -- Samuel Wantman 07:08, 8 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Stub sorting guidelines
I sincerely believe that we really need to lay down the law in stub sorting, and really provide a guideline. I believe that we should all attempt to reach a general consensus by April 2, 2005 in a set of rules that we can follow. Once we have built a set of guidelines, we can formally create a policy out of those guidelines. We need to define what a specialized topic stub is, how many articles it should cover, when is it appropriate to create it, what defines its need for its creation, what defines its need for deletion, what criteria it should follow, what are the general steps should one take when sorting a stub, whether or not to start using subst: for all templates, whether or not use subst: for all templates created by the meta-templates, and any other matters that may come up in consideration. I thank jag123 for initially creating the subpage for the project at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject Stub sorting/Guidelines. Even though they have been discussed, I feel that we really need to confirm everything. For that, we should discuss each issue with its own sections, and raise a list of issues that we need to nail down before really continuing on. The English Wikipedia is nearly at 500k articles. Either the MediaWiki software needs to handle stubs such that they can be found with a simple union of categories, or the sorting is done manually by Wikipedians. Personally, I think the latter is less taxing on the server load, especially when we use subst:, which I think would help the Wikipedia out, performance wise. Please make your comments at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject Stub sorting/Guidelines. I apologize for making this somewhat of a spam notice, but since the project has more members, the project can finally decide on these important issues at hand. -- AllyUnion (talk) 23:21, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)

DYK
 Did you know has been updated and a fact from the article William Mustard, which you recently created, has been featured in that section on the Main Page. If you have another interesting fact to submit, then please suggest it at the section's talk page.

DoCB
Hi YUL, just wanted to drop you a line to say thanks for helping out with the DoCB biography initiative, you are the first user to do so since I posted the lists the other day. It's especially gratifying to see someone that has created so many biographical articles in the past getting involved. It's a daunting sea of red ink, no? I think I might have to start with Z just to keep from getting discouraged! Fawcett5 14:26, 12 May 2005 (UTC)

Couple of things
Hi again YUL, thanks for your reply. I noticed a couple of small things: 1. It seems to annoy you that I typically put "links" instead of "link" even when there is only one. I will desist. 2. I notice that you are replacing the birth and death cats with {lived}... But this only succeeds in putting an unnecessary drain on the servers..it expands to those cats anyway.. It's a great template, but get in the habit of always using it with subst - e.g. {subst:Lived|etc} Fawcett5 20:30, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
 * YUL, when you use subst:, the expansion is done only once, and if you go back and look at the page, the template will be gone, replaced by the categories. Without subst, the servers have to dynamically expand for every page view, apparently causing a nasty resource drain. This template almost got axed awhile back on Tfd for this reason, and the recommendation was to only use it with subst. Disadvantage of subst, though, is that you cannot modify the way it looks on every page where it appears at once. Things that you think might have to be altered are therefore better used without :subst. My DoCB citation template {subst:Canadabio|ID=} should always be used with though. Cheers, Fawcett5 21:12, 12 May 2005 (UTC)

IDF Chiefs of Staff articles
Hi YUL: As you can see at: History of the Israel Defense Forces, there are no articles about six (out of 18) of the Israel Defense Forces' Chiefs of Staff: (1) Dan Shomron (1987-1991); (2) Moshe Levi (1983-1987); (3) Mordechai Gur (1974-1978); (4) David Elazar (1972-1974); (5) Tzvi Tzur (1961-1963); (6) Chaim Laskov (1958-1961). Are you able to provide some history and information about them? Thank you. IZAK 11:19, 22 May 2005 (UTC)


 * All done now. IZAK 05:42, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Wikiportal/Israel
Hi YUL: Please contact User:Humus sapiens who wishes to start a Wikiportal/Israel See his request below. Thanks IZAK 05:47, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

Hi IZAK (and everyone else here :), Do you think it's time to create Wikiportal/Israel similar to Wikiportal/India, Wikiportal/New Zealand and other Category:Wikiportals? I'm writing this here because it was you who made those wonderful templates and we don't have a portal yet where we could communicate. What do you think? &larr;Humus sapiens&larr;Talk 05:26, 23 May 2005 (UTC)


 * Hi Humus, it's only me here, but I will pass your message on to "everyone". Yes, your suggestion is excellent, it is certainly time for what you describe, but I have no experience with Wikipedia portals, and if you know how, go ahead and start an Israel portal and I am sure editors of Israel-related articles will support you and join in the effort/s. Behatzlachah. IZAK 05:33, 23 May 2005 (UTC)