User talk:Yama/archive 1

Hi Yama. I hope you like the place and choose to stay.

Some links that may be of use:
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I have a few tips for you: use the Move This Page feature if you want to move a page, so it preserves the edit history. Secondly, why do you want to move Mandrake Linux to Mandrakelinux? The first term is much more common and natural to type. You may want to raise this issue on the Talk:Mandrake Linux page first.

Thanks, and keep contributing Dysprosia 11:10, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Well, you can try the move again (using Move This Page), if you feel up to it. Let me know if the move fails (then I could fix it for you). Thanks Dysprosia 12:23, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)

GNU/Linux naming controversy
I took out the link you put in to your own article - putting links in Wikipedia to one's own work is considered improper, much as writing about oneself, one's employer or one's personal projects. See Auto-biography. (Only creating the article about oneself is not allowed; the other stuff is just considered improper. e.g. User:Alan Cox doesn't write about Linux or Red Hat.)

The other adds to the article are damn fine. Are there any "anti" links other than "Linrmsux"? It needs some for balance - David Gerard 15:10, 11 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Your e-mail comment
Congrats on your irrefutable argument for e-mail vs email! MFH 14:20, 5 Apr 2005 (UTC)


 * Thanks. I'm just doing my bit to make Wikipedia more accurate :-) -- Yama 02:17, 8 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Petrol
We edit conflicted on Talk:Petrol as I was apologizing for bitching. Again I'm sorry, I forgot to assume good faith. I'm done for the day but look forward to continuing the debate in the future ;)   &mdash; Teknic T-M-C 01:49, 29 May 2005 (UTC)

I feel I owe you another apology regarding Talk:Petrol. Some of my edits were lacking civility and one of them was nothing more than an outright insult which I am ashamed of and have since deleted. I can assure that this is not representative of my usual behavior and that I will strive to maintain a higher level of diplomacy in the future. &mdash; Teknic T-M-C 07:37, 31 May 2005 (UTC)

Munch Munch
You didn't allow me the opportunity to eat my words. I was getting ready to strike my comment at the end and you had already responded to it! :) Apologies, I'm sure you can tell, are not easy for me, especially when I'm swimming rather comfortably in the sea of self-righteousness that is our debate!

I have had to revert "drive-by" changes to BE before, though, on clearly American topics. If that hadn't have happened, I would not have been so quick to judge the actions taken by the anonymous user.  &#08492; astique &#09660; talk 00:57, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I can be a real arsehole sometimes--I will be the first to admit it. I shouldn't have been so harsh in my language. But you...

Read this slowly and carefully, because I don't want you to miss anything, lest I be taken out of context (again...and again...)

Please don't put words in my mouth and please don't twist my words around. Don't accuse me of things I'm not doing. And don't bait me any more. If you wish to deny it, this is baiting: something which you can't seem to comprehend. And this is an act of baiting: which seems to be used liberally against anyone who opposes your POV. And the use of the term slander where none exists. See slander. As is, leveling charges  against me. Sorry, were those meant to be tongue in cheek as well? They were utterly and completely inappropriate, not to mention incendiary.

I don't use words like slander or leveling charges or lies or intimidation. I acknowledge that my language can be harsh, but I state facts as I see them. If you were intimidated by my opinion of you, well, I sincerely apologize for that. I'm sorry I said it in front of everyone rather than to your face (on your talk page). You need to learn to take criticism, and to understand that not everything said to you is an insult or an accusation. Maybe you were willing to accept compromise about the article title, but you never said it.


 * 1) A lie is something told that the teller believes is false. I believe everything I said was true.
 * 2) Slander requires public image, and is a legal term...it means you have something credible to lose. It is rather impossible in the anonymity of Wikipedia.
 * 3) Intimidation contains threat or fear of threat. Tell me, how did I convey threat to you?

You are saying in front of all sorts of people that I did these ridiculous things.

I said, I can be an arsehole. I know some people think that about me. Guess what. I haven't done anything that breaks the Code of Conduct here. And some people are grateful to me for being the arsehole.

So, other than being an arsehole, what did I do? Take a deep breath and figure it out. Go back and read what I wrote and then read what you wrote. Think about it like it was someone else. I know you're a very intelligent person, it's obvious in the way you manipulate language. So think about it really, really hard. And then think about what people think about you.  &#08492; astique &#09660; talk 02:35, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Myyyy behaviour???? YOUR behavior. Nya nya...
I'm not even going to dignify a public response to you. I typed this on Talk:Gasoline page the page and then realized that none of these people want to know what you are saying to me or me to you.

''If you can't make a proper contribuition to the discussion, don't post at all. ''

Take your own advice.

The words lie, slander and intimidation do indeed fit here.

No they don't. They're bait-words. You're baiting me. You are trying to get me to say something I don't mean. But you are the only one now using extreme language.

I've lost track of the deceptions you have made, but I can recall a couple off the top of my head.

Complete and utter bullshit. Is that word too American for you? Then bloody rubbish. If you can't come up with any more things, then either you spend far more time composing than you do reading or there isn't any. My comments are very clearly marked by my very obvious signature. You know each thing I said to you. I sincerely doubt someone with your intellegence can possibly forget each and every time I made an assumption about you. Who is the one actually lying.

The first was your assertion that I was English.

An assumption is not an assertion. As if I know anything about you. Completely different horses. I don't like being called a liar any more than you like being called childish, delusional and paranoid, which is what I really--oh so very much--feel like saying that about you. I will not now resort to name calling, and when I take a breath I realize that you may not be any of those things. But you are being overly defensive, throwing around baitwords as if you were an expert at it. In an point out to everyone what a bad person I am. You feel this great need to reduce me to build yourself up. It's obvious how enormous your ego is...but is it truly that fragile?

Your baiting of me must stop, and you are the only one who can take responsibility and stop it.  &#08492; astique &#09660; talk 02:21, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Good cleanup on Amateur Radio
Those bits look a lot better. Thank you for your work. Flawiki 17:30, 30 August 2005 (UTC)