User talk:Yamara/Archive 01

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Vulcana
Coming from Wales myself I added the images to the beast that is Vulcana ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦  "Expecting you" Contribs 11:37, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

Of course they pass the test -anyhting earlier than 1923 are public domain. Any image of a deceased person of whatever period also qualfies as fairuse too. I noticed you had image trouble before  ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦  "Expecting you" Contribs 11:58, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

For fair use images you must state a rationale to make it legal - I upload tens of images throughout the week and rarely get sniffed at ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦  "Expecting you" Contribs 11:59, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

Article Speedy Deletion Warning
A tag has been placed on Quinto Martini (artist), requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a very short article providing little or no context to the reader. Please see Wikipedia:Stub for our minimum information standards for short articles. Also please note that articles must be on notable subjects and should provide references to reliable sources that verify their content.

Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself. If you plan to expand the article, you can request that administrators wait a while for you to add contextual material. To do this, affix the template   to the page and state your intention on the article's talk page. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. Boricuaeddie Talk • Contribs  •  Spread   the love! 15:10, 13 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Whoa, that was way too speedy. -- Yamara 15:23, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

Jaslene
Hey, thanks for helping out at Jaslene Gonzalez. Too many people are editing at once, so you can't any info..lol. I really appreciate it though. - theblueflamingo  Squawk 01:10, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Haha..I was rooting for her two. =D- theblueflamingo  Squawk 01:18, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Empress Wang Zhengjun
Can you clarify what is inappropriate with its tone, on Talk:Empress Wang Zhengjun? Thanks. --Nlu (talk) 17:08, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

Elaine Summers
Hi - I've slinked down the section on Kinetic Awareness in order to prevent deletion. Please review again and let me know.Thomas Körtvélyessy

Hi again! - Aecis marked the section in question as advertising and deleted it, after I had slinked it down and requested to not be deleted just yet. Do you agree with this user or was this a common decision? here's the link to my argumentation. Again, please let me know what you think, if you like. Thanks, Thomas Körtvélyessy 23:58, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

W. H. Auden
Hello,

Thank you for your assessment of the W. H. Auden page. Could you kindly specify exactly what you think is missing from this page or is otherwise wrong with it? It seems to match every guideline that I can find for good articles: lucid style, clear structure, plentiful (but not excessive) detail, thorough listing of sources, carefully balanced emphases, appropriate pubilc-domain illustrations, thoroughly wikified links, NPOV, NOR, etc., etc.

Thank you for any specific details that might be useful in making improvements. Macspaunday 12:07, 10 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks again for comments - have responded on the talk page. Macspaunday 14:56, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

Carly
Thanks so much for your help with Million Dollar Lady. It's an awesome project. You were so right. It did sound very press releasey...I am afraid I am a novice...and had to throw the info up fast fast.

Take Care!

Portal:Biography/Selected picture/Day 2
Thanks for your support during my disappearance! Anyway, I noticed on your userpage that you have an interest in woman's biography, and I'm trying to find a picture of woman to replace the above picture per Portal talk:Biography. Do you have any suggestions? DrKiernan 11:54, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Katherine of Aragon
Thanks for your input on the Katherine of Aragon article, especially your addition to the opener. I fought a long battle trying to get the "K" spelling accepted as it is clearly what the woman herself used, and was used in her lifetime, but I was constantly torn to shreds by a stubborn teenager....! I'd like to see the whole article turned over to "K" as the Oxford Dictionary state that is the correct form for a professional publication, which I think Wikipedia certainly is! Thanks again, I'll be interested to see how long your edit lasts!--Paul75 00:49, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Suzen Johnson
Good work on cleaning that article up; you beat me to it! Thanks. :) Acalamari 01:50, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Biography assessments
Hey. Good job so far on the ones you've been doing. Just to let you know there's an assessment drive going on at WikiProject Biography/Assessment/Assessment Drive where we are trying to get all the unassessed articles assessed. You might be interested in that so I thought I'd point it out.-- Wizardman 14:09, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

Joe Elton Nixon
Just a heads-up that article titles should be changed using the "move" button at the top of the page rather than copying and pasting into the new title - this preserves the article history. Cheers! Videmus Omnia 16:12, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the heads up. I also overlooked your message at the top of your talk page, leaving a message there before I read it, all of which just goes to show it's a dicey proposition to Wikipedia while you work. Cheers. -- Yamara 16:26, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

Welcome to WikiProject Former countries
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Service award


Just to let you know, you qualify for this. This award is strictly based on how long you have been on Wikipedia and your edit count. Congrats! -- Broken Sphere 23:55, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

My name is Yamara
Hi, My given name is Yamara. I was born in 1981 long before the comic strip. I don't get it. Yamara
 * There are a lot of people and places named Yamara, Yamara. As I am certain Wikipedia will one day reveal.
 * Cheers, Yamara 20:19, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Your assessments
When I was reading an article that was one of the DYKs I saw you assessed it. Due to recent discussion here, we've decided to replace the "11 easy steps to B happiness". I'd suggest not leaving the extra message, at least until a title for the suggestions has been decided on, so you can link to it. Thanks,  Psych  less   15:48, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

Your assessments of my articles
Hi, Yamara. I had my first more personal experience of the biography assessment drive yesterday, in the form of your assessment of two articles I wrote a long time ago, Elizabeth Barry and Anne Bracegirdle. It was ... well, a bit like getting a kick in the mouth, frankly. Barry and Bracegirdle were 16th-century actresses, and my articles contain all that is reliably known about them (though they don't contain all the rubbishy gossip around these sensationally publicly visible professional women). I'm a researcher in this field in real life, and have written many Featured articles. I was quite proud of these two short articles and considered them to be as comprehensive and well-written as my FAs. Properly referenced also. The rating, however, turned out to be "Start class", and your comment, identical for both, was the terse "The article may be improved by following the WikiProject Biography 11 easy steps to producing at least a B article." At least a B... OK, I looked up the Easy Steps for achieving this, and there I was recommended to research the available literature to find reliable sources (I've already scoured the available sources, and am well placed for knowing which of them are reliable) and to work on the thing "until it's coherent and at least slightly informative." Wow, they're not even slightly informative, the way they are now? Well, there is no more information to be had, so I think the best thing would be to nominate them for AfD. Bishonen | talk 09:33, 17 July 2007 (UTC).
 * Hi Bishonen. I've addressed the issues over on the Bio talk page. Your articles have come into the midst of two terrible forces in current WikiProject Biography work: The (very objective) Charybdis of WikiProject Biography Summer 2007 Assessment Drive, and the (very subjective) Scylla of the debate on what to do about the hated 11 Easy Steps. Charybdis has no time to be polite in assessing your work and see how you feel about it while Driving through more than 300,000 badly sorted bios. Scylla, meanwhile, is picking at the "Easy Steps" concept, and trying to figure out how to teach utterly uninitiated people how to make proper biographies. You should take neither of these things personally. Your biographies are well-written and researched, but there isn't room for a more elite system of assessment on Wikipedia, just room for better articles. Cheers, Yamara 16:01, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

Very nice -- I'll give it a 9.5
"Naturally, being a wiki, you can simply assess yourselves a B-class, as Awadewit suggests, and so take away any shame accruing from such an unfortunate incident as a word-shooting by some nonplussed critic. What do they know anyway?"
 * It's that kind of passive-aggressive asshattery by bureaucratic tag-fiddlers like yourself that makes Wikipedia such a wonderful place. Brilliant. Assuming your goal is to drive everyone off, of course. &mdash;Bunchofgrapes (talk) 22:33, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Genius! Brilliant! Oh, and I see you are late of Fark.com's haberdashery dept. Welcome to Wikipedia, again. Assuming your goal isn't to self-justify victimhood and be driven off, of course. -- Yamara 23:08, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Oh, I'm already off. I'm only curious how long I can not do anything productive here before I get blocked. But then, the same question could and should be asked of you. &mdash;Bunchofgrapes (talk) 23:15, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Burying dead babies is enormously productive, Bunch. You shouldn't sell yourself short. But you needn't sell me on anything, either. -- Yamara 00:13, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Perhaps I'm obtuse, but this whole situation makes no sense to me. Are you aware your posts read as insults, and that you are insulting some of our best FA authors? You seem to have an odd sense of humor, but that would not cover your tart replies to these enormously talented and productive editors. I am truly puzzled, would you please clarify? KillerChihuahua?!? 18:31, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject Biography Crisis
Overall, I'd say the part of the community prone to overreaction has overreacted. But please, allow me to describe my story arc...

Drives
In March I came across the WikiProject Biography Assessment Drive. During the Spring Drive, it was recommended to assess as many Biographies as possible. There was a template for the project, and another that looked like this:

==

Biography assessment rating comment

==

WikiProject Biography Summer 2007 Assessment Drive

The article may be improved by following the WikiProject Biography 11 easy steps to producing at least a B article.

I never asked anyone whether this was accepted policy. There it was on the pages of Wikipedia's largest Project. So, I used them.

When the Summer Drive came around, they offered new awards for quantity! So off I went, since it worked well with my work schedule at that time. I did change part the template to link to the Summer Drive page, but that was about it.

Suddenly, people pay attention to the main WikiProject Biography page
Psychless gave me a heads-up on the 14th about the changes to the "11 Easy Steps". Upon investigation at the Biography Talk page, it seemed that editors were replacing a mediocre intro to creating a biography more suited to Wikipedia at its onset... with a detailed description that was not introductory. Pressed for time (still am!) I admit to being a testy voice calling for guidelines for the inevitable beginners, as that was the main use I saw in them; I certainly never would never write them have written the original 11 Easy Steps * myself, but they were on the main Bio page, after all. I also said I saw no reason to update my message until this was squared away, since I felt it was very suddenly deprecated, and I had no assurance the new "guidelines" would survive long, either.

I made no initmation that I would never change them, only that I saw no reason to do it. The links and text would persist in the thousands, anyway.

After wrestling off of that, I returned to my User talk page discover Bishonen's feeling personally affronted at my cutting and pasting the old recommended message.

Startbreaker
Mention was made of my regarding his work as "Start-Class" which the quality scale specifically says is "not a negative rating". But it wasn't quite accurate that I rated the articles he was defending as Start-Class; they were already rated, as I mentioned on the Bio discussion page, and as is shown in their histories. I left their assessments as Start, which Bishonen seems to have neglected noticing for months. (I also took no credit toward my "total" for these over at the Drive.) I merely made the minor changes I always do, and included the standard statement.

I composed the paragraph about Scylla and Charybdis first, feeling that Bishonen was taking something as personal, when its cause really was closer to the general efforts of the Drive, and happened to involve the new debate over the 11 Easy Steps.

The World is Alarmed, in which apologies are in order
So I go back to the Bio discussion page, and Bishonen is already calling foul on me there, too.

So my reaction is, "Well, this is a little over the top." While I'm composing various responses, sometimes over a several-hour period, I notice that others are inevitably posting meanwhile, and are referencing issues similar to my points, so before posting, I acknowledge them.

My response to self-importance has always been the same: I tease it. Self-importance cannot stand teasing, because its self? It's too important. It Teasing * makes the point that needs making, specifically, your self-importance, too, is an insult.

'''If teasing on a discussion page is too outre for Wikipedia, I do apologize. However, in return, I would genuinely appreciate an apology from anyone who declared I was butchering their soulwork, merely by cutting and pasting a once-recommended template on the talk page appended to an article they contributed to.'''

In any case, here's the comment I'm using into the future. I wrote this one myself.:

==

Biography assessment rating comment

==

WikiProject Biography Summer 2007 Assessment Drive

Want to help write or improve biographies? Check out WikiProject Biography Tips for writing better articles.

My Conclusions
My take on the Bio page dust-up is that some people have only now discovered there's a Biography Assessment Drive, and that it is going about it Wrong... and these same people feel that Assessments have no value... and they're very insulted. It makes little sense to me to feel insulted about something you regard as having no value; think about what that says about yourself?

Now if everyone will excuse me, I am off to dine at the Waldorf. I'll try to bring back pics for the encyclopedia!

Cheers,

Yamara 20:58, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

* Edited for clarity. (Entire explanation was written very hastily.) Yamara 04:15, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

Featured_article_candidates/Gunnhild_Mother_of_Kings
Since you worked on this article, I thought it would interest you to know that it is up for FA status. Your comments would be most welcome. Briangotts (Talk) (Contrib) 18:04, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
 * FYI, there is no policy that says you must recuse yourself from an FAC vote simply because you worked on the article. Briangotts (Talk) (Contrib) 20:57, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

Immediate corrections needed to Aja Zanova (Alena Vrzanova)
As per the subject's request, please remove the existing text and replace it with the text below - The original text includes factual errors. Also, please change the title of the page to Aja Zanova - her birth name is reflected in the text and can be referred to in the top paragraph as well.

I made all these changes a few times, but the edit keeps reverting back.

I was able to fix the medal box to reflect Ms. Zanova's two world championship victories (as correctly referred to in the text).

I am new to Wikipedia and appreciate all your help. I am sure the article needs to link to other things besides Ice Theatre, but I didn't know how to do that.

Please feel free to contact me if you have any questions. Kind Regards, Jirina Ribbens Ice Theatre of New York itny@icetheatre.org

New Text:

AJA ZANOVA (nee Alena “Aja” Vrzanova) —The first, and, to date, the only Czech-born female figure skater to win to consecutive World championships (1949 and ’50), and the first female to land the double-Lutz jump. With the help of coach Arnold Gerschwiler and America’s Dick Button, in 1950, at the age of nineteen, she fled from her Communist-dominated country—- a life-threatening escape -—to the U.S.A, where she achieved stardom in “Ice Follies” and “Ice Capades.” Zanova enjoyed a longer touring career (eleven months a year for eighteen years straight) than Sonja Henie. Aja became a household image in America in the 1960s, when she filmed a commercial for “Bic” ballpoint pens, performing a “blur” spin with the pen attached to her boot—-TV audiences were mesmerized. Zanova married Czech compatriot and entrepreneur Pail Steindler, and after she retired from performing, the couple launched two highly successful New York restaurants: “The Duck Joint” and “The Czech Pavilion” (Steindler died in 1983). Zanova’s friendships with Ivana and Donald Trump (Ivana was Czech), Martina Navratilova, legendary show impresario Tom Collins and other notables, continue to the present day. In 1990, after “forty years in exile”, and after the Wall had come down, Aja returned to Czechoslovakia, where two generations hadn’t been informed that a Czech had won the World title. In 2004, the president of the Czech Republic, Vaclav Klaus, awarded Zanova the Medal of Merit: “Not just for what you’ve done in the world of skating, but how you’ve represented Czechoslovakia to the world and what you have done in life.” Regarded in the skating world as one of the most influential people in the sport, Zanova maintains real estate interests in New York and Florida, is a constant world traveler, often a judge at top professional skating events, and has been involved in TV Production. She was honored in 2005 by Ice Theatre of New York for her ongoing accomplishments.

Re: WikiProject Biography Summer 2007 Assessment Drive - Nitish Katara
I noticed a comment you left at Talk:Nitish Katara. Following the 11 tips, I have upgraded that biography very significantly: It is still missing a pic (I have asked some of websites for a permission), but other than that it is I feel, quite comprehensive, given that it is a recent story.
 * included several aspects that were left out earlier (comprehensive)
 * tightened the flow, and re-organized topics
 * attempted a more balanced tone (NPOV)
 * adding citations to all sentences that may need verification
 * added 33 references, mostly from the media,

How do I go about for a peer review / certification? Can you take a first look? Haven't done this ever... mukerjee (talk) 06:50, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

You might be interested in this current dispute:[]. Thanks.Giovanni33 21:35, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

Most articles should be short
I've seen your comment on Ann Crumb (not my article) and I disagree strongly with your inference that it should be far longer. I think that this is quite enough as it is for a person of this apparent notability. You seem to be working on an assumption that everyone should have a very long article, but most subjects only merit a short article. That's the way that Britannica works, and it should be the way that we work too. If I decide to look up someone known, but fairly obscure, I would far rather see two or three short paragraphs than page after page of minutiae. Alex Middleton 22:33, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

End of WP:Bio assessment drive
I have reraised the issue (see towards the bottom) as to whether assessors should receive all the awards they qualify for or only the highest one. Your input is appreciated. Broken Sphere Msg me 18:13, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

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WikiProject Biography Newsletter 5
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New York City Meetup
The agenda for the next meetup includes the formation of a Wikimedia New York City local chapter. Hope to see you there!--Pharos 20:28, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

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User:Captain Future
Just a heads-up re: your comments to Captain Future.

I haven't quite figured out what's up with this user yet. I'm sure he's German, and there is reason to believe he may be the same person as User:Kay Körner 20.12.1983 and User:Fox53. There's a pattern of confusing edits going on surrounding that article, and some things that seem strange even to me as a fluent speaker of German.

Just wanted to let you know. - Revolving Bugbear  23:35, 27 December 2007 (UTC)