User talk:Yankees10/Archive 3

Babe Ruth infobox
My apologies, it was unintentional. Mr Monty Marbles 05:28, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

Just "football" is (usually) too ambiguous
Please stop moving articles with 'American football' in the disambiguation to just 'football'; they should be at "American football" or "American football player" to distinguish from the many other sports around the world known as football. Just "football" should only be used when the article applies to multiple varieties of football, such as with 12th Man (football) or Punter (football position). There are more examples at WikiProject American football. Thank you. Sohelpme 22:39, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

G unit feuds
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sock puppet
some guy thought i was your sock puppet. Mghabmw 17:37, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

just thought you'd like to know, i thought it was interesting. sort of came out of left field when i was accused of it. nonetheless, it was dismissed. Mghabmw 18:10, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

Welcome back!
I know that I'm late, but welcome back after 3 weeks. We like your contributions here, it was just the colors that seemed to get everyone pissed (you missed an epic dispute on Reggie Jackson's page, Pascack and his socks were banned :), so they're not here apparently). I'm going to work on infoboxes coming up soon. Just an FYI. Keep up the good work! Soxrock 22:28, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

Seasonal articles
has taken it upon himself to redirect the articles 2006 Kansas City Royals season and 1980 Tampa Bay Buccaneers season. I've saved them and put the underconstruction tag on them, but enough has been said, he's going with the non-notable card. Just an FYI that he is trying to redirect them. Soxrock 23:43, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

Wikiproject g-unit started
The G-Unit wikiproject has been started, to view it click here-WikiProject G-Unit Records.--Shadyaftrmathgunit 22:12, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

Reference link
I put the link you added to the I Get Money article into reference format, as you requested in the edit summary. Cheers! Ariel ♥ Gold 01:49, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

Possible socks
You can't just discount somebody's vote because you think he is a sock. It has to be proven, first. Ksy92003 (talk)  20:31, 10 August 2007 (UTC)


 * You have to gather the evidence, then go to Suspected sock puppets and plead your case there. Then, an admin will open a discussion with you in regards to your evidence.  All the instructions are there.  Ksy92003  (talk)  20:34, 10 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Well, I can't say anything about that... if you really suspect him to be a sockpuppet, then you'll have to plead your case at Suspected sock puppets. Ksy92003  (talk)  20:41, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

Reggie Jackson
Alright it's done. Thanks for asking. NewYork1956 07:06, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

Re: Reference
Hi, Yeh I hate it when people just delete a piece of information that they know is coorect just because they cant be bothered to wait for a ref. But anyway no problem and nice to see your back! --The-G-Unit-Boss 11:22, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Phil Rizzuto
Phil Rizzuto was born in 1917. See Rizzuto discussion page and Rklawton talk page for explanation. Reversion of birth date is clearly vandalism.--KrazyChicken 17:25, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

Reggie Jackson

 * Even though we had the vote, somebody came to my talk page about this and how it wasn't the way to fix the situation. Leaving the colors the way I had it is the most neutral way possible to keep the infobox until this conflict is solved once and for all.  Ksy92003  (talk)  22:28, 17 August 2007 (UTC)


 * I just looked at those, and I also feel you were right in the fact that those colors should be what you reverted them to. Just make sure you don't violate 3RR, okay?  Ksy92003  (talk)  22:34, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

Promosed move of Ray Lewis (American football)
Hello, i started a section on the Talk:Ray Lewis (American football) page for you to address your concerns. Looking at those page histories, it's clear there is some concern over this. Also, it might help to provide some edit summaries. When you blanked the page a short time ago - it is possible that someone would have slapped you with a vandalism tag. I see that you are a conscientious editor, so it would be good to get some opinion before moving. Juan Miguel Fangio| ►Chat 04:41, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Re: Rayburn
Why settle for less accurate information? Makes absolutely no sense. Pats1 23:42, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I don't care what the MLB/baseball project does. Two wrongs don't make a right. Rayburn was as much a member of the 49ers as he was the Eagles -- he just happened to be around in September for the Eagles. Pats1 23:47, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

I'm not that big on football, and by that I mean I don't know what the agreement of this is on WP:NFL. But in all the baseball articles I've done, and all that I've seen, they only have those categories if they were on the team. However, for football articles you also put the teams if they were on practice rosters, which makes the decision even more difficult. Personally, I think that they would have to play an NFL game to have the appropriate category, but saying that may be conflicting with WP:BASEBALL. Why don't you pose this question at the project page, WP:NFL? It's not something I've ever noticed to be a problem on football articles, but with you bringing it up, it seems like it's a point that needs to be clearly expressed all throughout the project. Ksy92003 (talk)  23:54, 1 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Here's a question - why did you add Category:Tampa Bay Buccaneers to Jeremiah Trotter? He still hasn't played for them, so by your logic he shouldn't have it, just as Chris Claiborne should have the Jags category or Patrick Pass should have the Texans'. Don't you see the inconsistency here? If a guy is EVER eligible for the category (as Claiborne was, Pass was and Trotter is now) he ALWAYS is.► Chris Nelson  19:53, 3 September 2007 (UTC)


 * I'm sure you would, but that's not what I'm asking. Why did you add it now given your view on the subject? He has yet to play a game, therefore in his eyes he does not fit the criteria. You cannot logically say Pass and Claiborne should have the Texans and Jags categories, respectively, if you keep current team categories on guys like Trotter and Brady Quinn. There is no difference here.


 * The thing is, once a player meets the criteria for this category, he ALWAYS will. What's done is done, and if a guy fits the bill it should always remain. You have to see the hypocrisy in your actions, and you have to admit your actions on Trotter make no sense given your actions on Pass and Claiborne.► Chris Nelson  20:05, 3 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Exactly. You can't answer the question of why you added it to Trotter, because it's completely hypocritical given your past actions. You have no good answer because there isn't one. I'd respect you a lot more if you just admitted you were wrong and that you just didn't think it through.► Chris Nelson  20:11, 3 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Yes, but you did not answer the question of why you added it now. Why is Trotter worthy of the category now? Don't you realize that is a guy is ever worthy for this kind of category, he's always worthy?► Chris Nelson  20:21, 3 September 2007 (UTC)


 * (Edit conflict)
 * Chrisjnelson, using the statement you just made to Yankees10, I'd also respect you a lot more if you took responsibility for your actions towards me. Ksy92003  (talk)  20:26, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Yankees10 - You're saying Trotter does not currently meant the criteria for the category yet you're adding it anyway, in case he one day meets the requirements and people not forget to add it? Sorry, but that goes against WP:CRYSTAL and is a horrible reason. I'm not asking you WHY you put it, I'm asking you WHY you think he's worthy.► Chris Nelson  20:30, 3 September 2007 (UTC)


 * No, you don't have to explain your actions to me. But if you refuse to acknowledge they are hypocritical and inconsistent, then just know that I'm going to have to revert you every time I come across any incorrect edits. (Not going to follow you, just going to revert/re-add info if I see you've done it incorrectly.) Your goal should be accuracy and consistency, and unfortunately you don't seem to have much interest in that. But it's alright - I'm willing to clean up after you. If you ever want to help out and do things better, that'd be good also.► Chris Nelson  20:36, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Categories2
I am not going to comment any further right now because i believe my answer sufficiently expresses my perspective. Plain and simple - if they are on the roster during any regular season (no matter what "special section" of the roster) - then they belong. If not, they don't. Juan Miguel Fangio| ►Chat 23:54, 4 September 2007 (UTC)


 * I agree I think you should come back, Im not trying to force you but it would be good for all of us if you came back to help resolve this--Yankees10 00:09, 5 September 2007 (UTC)


 * I have no desire to enter into a conversation with those editors at this time. I don't think my post could have been anymore clear as far as my thoughts. My reasoning for this is the same as my reasoning for leaving the information out of infoboxes.  This discussion (where you chimmed in), includes a fairly good synopsis of my rational.  Please feel free to reference it as you see fit and let me know if you need anything else.  I will mark your talk page so we can converse here if need be. Juan Miguel Fangio| ►Chat  02:29, 5 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Ok, I really dont blame you for not wanting to continue, it can become a pain--Yankees10 03:22, 5 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Just fyi, I try as much as possible to keep discussions centralized - i think this is a bit different than the request (as we're now talking about behavior), so i put the last comment over here to keep it easy to follow. In any event, it appears that I might be able to participate in the discussion now without fear of things getting out of hand.  However, we need to make sure that we don't inadvertantly squash another user's opinion simply because he/she is unable to edit. Juan Miguel Fangio| ►Chat  03:29, 5 September 2007 (UTC)


 * I'm not going to revert your last post here - but I have this paged marked for watching - so if you want to expand on this topic, just make a post here and i'll see it. Juan Miguel Fangio| ►Chat 03:36, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Ok, Im almost done for the night, so I probably wont write anything until tomorrow, just to let you know--Yankees10 03:38, 5 September 2007 (UTC)


 * No worries, I'm about out the door myself. Juan Miguel Fangio| ►Chat 03:39, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Discussion
Please see WT:NFL JmFangio| ►Chat 19:21, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Bomb First
The article for Intro/Bomb First (My Second Reply) has been nominated for deletion while i have created it for just about 2 days ago.. we need ur support. click: Articles_for_deletion/Intro/Bomb_First_%28My_Second_Reply%29 West Coast Ryda and Talk to Me 14:44, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject NFL discussion
Please see User talk:Pats1 for something I said to Pats1 regarding the issue, since I'm probably not allowed to discuss NFL-related things on their talk pages per the topic ban.► Chris Nelson  01:48, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

Clifton Dawson
You're right he's on the Colts now, but he was on them originally, was released and then signed with the Bengals. So that's two different stints with the Colts. Will you please revert it?► Chris Nelson  04:33, 29 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks, it's no big deal, just glad we were able to resolve that peacefully.► Chris Nelson  18:41, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

Thank you
Thank you for reverting the edits from Juan when he kept on revert it back to the old infobox. Thanks--Phbasketball6 15:32, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

He reverted the infoboxes back, just to let you know. Thanks--Phbasketball6 17:32, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

He revrted the infoboxes again for Culpepper. Thanks--Phbasketball6 21:05, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

The kid is stubborn, he just replied, just to let you know. Thanks--Phbasketball6 21:53, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

The stubborn baby "Louis" told on you because you "offended him", User_talk:Deskana Thanks--Phbasketball6 14:33, 30 September 2007 (UTC)


 * I wouldn't call him a baby. Take it from me. That could easily be taken as a personal attack, and then you have even more problems.► Chris Nelson Holla! 14:41, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

Yea, good point cause he'll probably tell on me, Thanks --Phbasketball6 15:58, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

Vandal impersonating me
Thanks for letting me know. Clearly someone trying to get me in trouble. Out of curiosity, how'd you come across that?► Chris Nelson Holla! 22:36, 4 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Ah. I would hope any admin would believe it's not me and a checkuser would prove it if it comes to that. Well thanks for the heads up. ► Chris Nelson Holla! 22:51, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Johnny Briggs infobox
I saw that you make infoboxes for baseball players, i made one for Johnny Briggs did i do it right?--75.82.16.153 15:35, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

great thanks--75.82.16.153 04:03, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

West Coast Hip Hop WikiProject
Yo, Ryda came up wit an idea 4 a West Coast Hip hop project, and we think ur editz wud really help out the project, cud ya add ur name here if ur interested. Thnx G - Keep It Real - Real   Compton   G  16:05, 7 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Yo, the project has started, cud u add your name 2 the members list, WikiProject West Coast hip hop/Participants. - Keep It Real - Real   Compton   G  19:15, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

Re: Mills
So now you're just skipping (and ignoring) WP:NFL and resorting to "nobody cares" tactics again. Brilliant. Try discussing it again at WP:NFL. How many times have we done this now?  Pats 1  T / C  01:07, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

please discuss barry bonds edits on bonds discussion page
please engage in editorial discussion regarding your edits of the barry bonds page on the bonds discussion page. thank you. Anastrophe 23:51, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

if that's the case, then why don't you remove the colors from the rickey henderson article? he's not with the A's any more either. Anastrophe 01:19, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for signing
For the record, the Yankees are already out of the playoffs, and the Jets will be very defeated this year. But I'm a little sad that Torre left, I liked him  SashaCall   (Sign!)/(Talk!) 02:01, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Honestly, I'd rather lose to you guys than the Indians. The fuckin' indians, come on.    SashaCall   (Sign!)/(Talk!) 02:07, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Re: Message
Hi, Thanks dude for having me there. Nice to see your back again!. --  ¤ The-G-Unit-฿oss ¤   10:57, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

Jackson
The colors were changed to neutral by consensus, not because of one person. Don't start this crap up again. Kinston eagle 16:44, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

Reggie
Just leave Reggie on neutral. Man, why are you digging up old issues? Jjj222 19:17, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

Mack Strong
Strong is on IR, not Reserve/Retired. Therefore he is technically not retired.► Chris Nelson Holla! 03:27, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

State flags in infoboxes
I see you reverted my edit on Corey Simon. I'm not going to revert you back, but I am going to post a comment about this at WT:NFL. When I get the post up, feel free to leave your opinions there. Ksy92003 (talk)  20:13, 27 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Please see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject National Football League. Ksy92003  (talk)  20:26, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

Archive
Dude, have you considered archiving your talk page? It's getting quite long --  ¤ The-G-Unit-฿oss ¤   21:50, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I find this way the easiest, if you have any trouble just message me and i'll help out. Also would you mind voicing your opinion here. Thanks!. --  ¤ The-G-Unit-฿oss ¤   22:39, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Yeah, thats perfect. --  ¤ The-G-Unit-฿oss ¤   10:11, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

Reggie Jackson infobox
Why does run batted in need to be abbreviated? I don't see any specific reason why. Ksy92003 (talk)  17:05, 28 October 2007 (UTC)


 * But that's just unnecessary piping then. If the title of the article is sufficient enough to give the reader complete understanding of what it is intended for, then piping is unnecessary.  Ksy92003  (talk)  17:14, 28 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Actually, I'd prefer that if it were reverted, that you'd do so. That would just show that this was discussed and people looking at that and seeing that you revert yourself, then they'd know that the issue was discussed between the opposing parties.  Ksy92003  (talk)  17:17, 28 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Alright. I wasn't trying to force you to do that, I just thought it would be better to do a self-revert in this situation.  Ksy92003  (talk)  17:22, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

Different issue with the same subject: your edit here introduced at least one piece of misinformation (Jackson wasn't AL MVP in 1973). Could you check the rest to make sure it's accurate? Thanks. —Wknight94 (talk) 13:31, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

MLB infobox
I've got the first colored bar of the infobox working with the color templates. I'm trying to figure out the others, but I really suck at this.► Chris Nelson Holla! 01:28, 15 November 2007 (UTC)


 * I got it working! I'm effing brilliant, haha! But yeah, go check out a current player's infobox and see what you think. Any comments or suggestions, let me know.► Chris Nelson Holla! 21:08, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

yo dawg some fool (76.180.2.238‎) keeps changing the new infoboxes to the old ones, can you help me tell him to stop.--Rockies17 (talk) 23:05, 18 November 2007 (UTC)-

Looking for help on this article [] CubanoDios (talk) 18:43, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Sean Taylor
I suggest you read Manual of Style (flags) before reinserting the flags once more, specifically the part where you're not supposed to emphasize nationality without a good reason. Regards, — Save_Us _ 229  02:54, 28 November 2007 (UTC)


 * How does a Florida flag convey nationality any more than the word 'Florida'?► Chris Nelson Holla! 14:41, 28 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Or Floridian as someone who lives in Florida would be called. Actually read the link I provided. — Save_Us _ 229  19:59, 28 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Okay, but logically the word 'Florida' and a Florida state flag don't convey anything different.► Chris Nelson Holla! 20:41, 28 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Can everyone get off my back with this flag thing, i'm not the only one who adds the flags--Yankees10 (talk) 23:24, 28 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Everyone? I was defending you.► Chris Nelson Holla! 23:26, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Oh, so you like the flag idea--Yankees10 (talk) 23:29, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

State flags, sure. I understand how a national flag might mistakenly convey nationality (especially for Americans born on military bases overseas) but state flags do no harm that I can see.► Chris Nelson Holla! 23:36, 28 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Oh shit, sorry, I totally misread your comment, my bad--Yankees10 (talk) 23:37, 28 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Though now that I think about it, national flags don't convey nationality either. If a guy's birth place says "Nuremberg, Germany," why would the German flag convey nationality more than the word Germany? Oh well.► Chris Nelson Holla! 23:39, 28 November 2007 (UTC)


 * The info on Randy Gradishar should stay as I have it. I worked very hard on that article and it conveys an encyclopedic message. The rule for wikipedia is verification. The info box is there for information. We will have to just disagree on this, but let's keep it civil. I am not "messing" with anything. I have every right to edit the infobox or article as I please. But, again, please keep this civil.72.0.36.36 (talk) 23:50, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

Gradishar and Eller
since we disagree, should we call in dispute resolution, as i say, I repsect your articles, etc. . . so let's just follow the rules, ok?72.0.36.36 (talk) 00:20, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

Deletion
the football article was not deleted--take a look at the explanation on my talk page. DGG (talk) 01:16, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

Manny Fernandez
I put in his sacks and his all-time Super Bowl teams, there is alot more info about him out there, just Google him and you can findtons of informaiton.72.0.36.36 01:05, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

Harvey Martin

 * thanks. anytime you di a defensive lineman let me know. . . I will see if I can find their sacks72.0.36.36 19:24, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

Running backs template
Actually I pondered where we should have those when I first saw the quarterbacks template, and I have to say I believe a running backs one should not exist. The issue is that because of certain packages and things, a starting running back could possibly not be out there on the opening play. Unlike the quarterbacks and kickers template, this is an issue.

For example, what if Indianapolis opened with five wideouts, or four wideouts and a tight end? Joseph Addai wouldn't have started because he wasn't out there the first play. Or what if the Chargers began a game with both LaDainian Tomlinson and Michael Turner in the backfield.

As you can see, positions other than ones like quarterback or kicker create issues like this, where there isn't always an easy solution. So I'm not sure I'm in favor of this one's existence.► Chris Nelson Holla! 19:21, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Template:NFLStartingRunningbacks
I tacked my two cents about this template onto your comment at User:Chrisjnelson's talk page, so just so you know. Skudrafan1 20:56, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

woah
your right about the no ref in the header, but make sure not to delete the ref. move the ref to the appropiate place later on in the article. because later in the articles there is the "ref name" only, and if you removed the ref then it kills the second ref. All the best, -- brew crewer  (yada, yada) 00:58, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

Neutral Tug McGraw infobox colors - brilliant!
Your simple improvement to the Tug McGraw infobox is nonetheless brilliant, and one of the best edits I've seen in a while for preserving the integrity of Wikipedia. How about we work together to make a push for this to be a convention on all sports articles? Best regards, 71.100.143.20 (talk) 18:21, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

The Tug McGraw vandal
This guy is one of the worst vandals I've ever seen on Wikipedia. He uses the sockpuppets of Gmh224, Jjj22, Pascack, JoeIdaho, and an IP address that's been banned. He's a menace - will you please give me some support in getting him banned permanently? Thanks, Googie man (talk) 00:55, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

I would just like to add that Tug McGraw and Keith Hernandez did not have small "highlights" as Mets in their careers. These guys played many years in New York, were World Series heroes, and are most remembered in Mets uniforms. If you can both argue for Reggie Jackson as a Yankee over A's, I don't know how you can argue against either of these guys as Mets. It is a double standard. Jjj222 (talk) 14:57, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

online
Are you online now?  Ry an P os tl et hw ai te  01:36, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I've just unprotected the template. Can you let me know when you're done?  Ry an P os tl et hw ai te  01:58, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

Stolen images - can you help?
Hi Yankees10 - our mutual nemesis is back to his old tricks, and this is behavior I've policed before. I was wondering if you'd please help me out, so that I can get some support in dealing with this guy. Jjj222 says he took image, but a 10 seconds of scouring on the internet led me to this link here. Basically he's making a mockery of the honesty, and transparency of Wikipedia, which as I've said, he's done on numerous occasions. He also says he took the photo of Keith Hernandez, which I very seriously doubt as well, but can't find it anywhere. Can you please see that these images get deleted, and a ban for more than 24 hours for Jjj222/Gmh224/Pascack? Thank you Googie man (talk) 23:50, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

RE:Template:Infobox Gridiron football person
It's probably the ones that I removed. Try to use AFL, CFL, or NFL stats. -- Louis  Alberto   Guel  18:31, 21 December 2007 (UTC)